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Why do people keep defending sugar?
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Well, yes, usual disclaimer - unless you have a medical reason to avoid it.
Nobody is suggesting diabetics are fine eating bars of candy.
Just like, say, bread - nothing wrong with eating bread.
Obviously not including people with coeliac disease.0 -
On the negative side: I would guess that for a lot of people, sugar is probably [1] not very satiating for the calories, and [2] doesn't provide much added benefit other than energy (ie not energy + a minimum required macro or micro).. so probably something to at least somewhat limit if you have particularly limited calories to work with.
on the positive side: For those that are active, [1] some calorie dense options are a good thing (there may be a lot of exercise calories to make up), and [2] quick, easily digestible fuel (ie sugar) can be pretty important for those doing long intense cardio. Sugar becomes pretty d*mn important then.
I normally use splenda to sweeten my morning oatmeal (to avoid the extra sugar calories), but yet have top tube bags on all of my bikes whose sole purpose is to hold pouches of fruit snacks (basically gelatinized sugar). Also worth noting that those fruit snack pouches I carry on rides, runs, and hikes have come in handy on multiple occasions for someone in the group who felt their sugar levels crashing (diabetics in a few of the cases).4 -
Ok, I'm a little late, but even as an analogy, why is "sandpaper in veins" a bad thing?
Sandpaper isn't used to destroy things; it smooths things to make them better.
So is the person inadvertently saying sugar will cause your veins to have less surface error, better flow, therefore less blood pressure and less cholesterol sticking to it? Because that would be kind of what sandpaper would generally do to something you'd actually sandpaper...
And it is also bizarre on the level as if you can ever not have sugar in your veins. Having no sugar in veins is called being dead or close to in a hypoglycemic coma.15 -
Hey, @purplebobkat - you okay? Last we heard you were self-isolating and having shortness of breath on the 15th...2
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A bit of sugar doesn't hurt most people. Now if you have the beetus... avoid it like the plague.1
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Prolly cause of cellular respiration.2
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Because it's so tasty.10
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Because sugar is cocaine or crack which ever you prefer. Lol.0
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There are no bad foods. (I'm talking mainstream foods, not potentially poisonous plants, fish,etc). Yes, some people's bodies cannot tolerate certain foods and some people have trigger foods, but that is not the fault of the food. It is up to the individual to make their own food choices.
If I mostly eat a healthy diet why demonize a slice of birthday cake or a christmas cookie?
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A bit of sugar doesn't hurt most people. Now if you have the beetus... avoid it like the plague.
Lol... I get your point, but diabetics can have fruit...mommabear4315 wrote: »Because sugar is cocaine or crack which ever you prefer. Lol.
I prefer opiates..... actually in the "reward" pathway, it is more "like" an opiate, but not an opiate... make sense?3 -
purplebobkat wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Sugar is neither to defend or demonize. It depends on your nutritional needs. If those are met and you have calories left over sugar can fill some of that gap. Overuse will cause problems, as will almost anything else. Why is moderation such a difficult concept for some? Athletes, people that burn a lot of calories may need that energy and quickly. Sugar has it's place.
Agree with all this. I use sugar/candy for quick energy before my lifting sessions. While it may not be nutritious I find it very beneficial (vegetables or fruit even would not have the same effect), so OP those "bad" effects you speak of are actually the effects I seek.
I made no mention of the bad effects of sugar (although they are numerous), I just asked why people defend sugar so much.
I consume too much sugar (like most people), but I understand it's bad for me & would never defend it. I just wondered why so many on this app are constantly doing so.
Cuz it's delicious!🤤1 -
Why do you think it's bad for you? Because you overconsume it? That's NOT sugar's fault.purplebobkat wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Sugar is neither to defend or demonize. It depends on your nutritional needs. If those are met and you have calories left over sugar can fill some of that gap. Overuse will cause problems, as will almost anything else. Why is moderation such a difficult concept for some? Athletes, people that burn a lot of calories may need that energy and quickly. Sugar has it's place.
Agree with all this. I use sugar/candy for quick energy before my lifting sessions. While it may not be nutritious I find it very beneficial (vegetables or fruit even would not have the same effect), so OP those "bad" effects you speak of are actually the effects I seek.
I made no mention of the bad effects of sugar (although they are numerous), I just asked why people defend sugar so much.
I consume too much sugar (like most people), but I understand it's bad for me & would never defend it. I just wondered why so many on this app are constantly doing so.
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mommabear4315 wrote: »Because sugar is cocaine or crack which ever you prefer. Lol.
Yep, Tony Montana was going to make his move on Dixie Crystals but they took him down first.
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Plain water has no nutritonal value. And carbs get broken down into the simplest forms sugar in the body. Not sure you really understand how sugar in the body works?purplebobkat wrote: »Carbs are a macro nutrient so how can you say they have no nutritional benefit?
That would be the same as saying fat has no nutritional benefit!
Maybe also consider that providing energy is a vital part of your diet which carbs (including sugar) do very well.
Actually I said sugar has no nutritional value. Carbs can be healthy, but sugar is not healthy. So why are so many defending it?
(Just curious)
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Why do you think it's bad for you? Because you overconsume it? That's NOT sugar's fault.purplebobkat wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Sugar is neither to defend or demonize. It depends on your nutritional needs. If those are met and you have calories left over sugar can fill some of that gap. Overuse will cause problems, as will almost anything else. Why is moderation such a difficult concept for some? Athletes, people that burn a lot of calories may need that energy and quickly. Sugar has it's place.
Agree with all this. I use sugar/candy for quick energy before my lifting sessions. While it may not be nutritious I find it very beneficial (vegetables or fruit even would not have the same effect), so OP those "bad" effects you speak of are actually the effects I seek.
I made no mention of the bad effects of sugar (although they are numerous), I just asked why people defend sugar so much.
I consume too much sugar (like most people), but I understand it's bad for me & would never defend it. I just wondered why so many on this app are constantly doing so.
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You're coming in very late to this thread.
The last post made by the OP he/she stated that he might have the virus.
Weeks ago...and no further posts.
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Lol, if sugar is like sandpaper in your veins, the plaque wouldn't be an issue.snowflake954 wrote: »penny30030 wrote: »well sugar could be demonized, my daughters doctor told her sugar is like sandpaper in your veins. And, fruit sugar is not equal to processed granulated sugar, which is the culprit. Processing food is the problem.
I would just ask how sugar "like sandpaper" gets in your veins, unless you're shooting it up? I really don't understand this.
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Just saw that. Hoping for the best. How have you been? It's been awhile for me (with the exception of my daily check in posts).cmriverside wrote: »
Why do you think it's bad for you? Because you overconsume it? That's NOT sugar's fault.purplebobkat wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Sugar is neither to defend or demonize. It depends on your nutritional needs. If those are met and you have calories left over sugar can fill some of that gap. Overuse will cause problems, as will almost anything else. Why is moderation such a difficult concept for some? Athletes, people that burn a lot of calories may need that energy and quickly. Sugar has it's place.
Agree with all this. I use sugar/candy for quick energy before my lifting sessions. While it may not be nutritious I find it very beneficial (vegetables or fruit even would not have the same effect), so OP those "bad" effects you speak of are actually the effects I seek.
I made no mention of the bad effects of sugar (although they are numerous), I just asked why people defend sugar so much.
I consume too much sugar (like most people), but I understand it's bad for me & would never defend it. I just wondered why so many on this app are constantly doing so.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You're coming in very late to this thread.
The last post made by the OP he/she stated that he might have the virus.
Weeks ago...and no further posts.
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cmriverside wrote: »
Why do you think it's bad for you? Because you overconsume it? That's NOT sugar's fault.purplebobkat wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Sugar is neither to defend or demonize. It depends on your nutritional needs. If those are met and you have calories left over sugar can fill some of that gap. Overuse will cause problems, as will almost anything else. Why is moderation such a difficult concept for some? Athletes, people that burn a lot of calories may need that energy and quickly. Sugar has it's place.
Agree with all this. I use sugar/candy for quick energy before my lifting sessions. While it may not be nutritious I find it very beneficial (vegetables or fruit even would not have the same effect), so OP those "bad" effects you speak of are actually the effects I seek.
I made no mention of the bad effects of sugar (although they are numerous), I just asked why people defend sugar so much.
I consume too much sugar (like most people), but I understand it's bad for me & would never defend it. I just wondered why so many on this app are constantly doing so.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You're coming in very late to this thread.
The last post made by the OP he/she stated that he might have the virus.
Weeks ago...and no further posts.
The OP was still active March 30th. Fingers crossed.1 -
I can't believe these debates are still going on...1
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Sugar 🥰
That is all.
Carry on.4 -
Research followers of Fruitarianism..... dont get much more sugar in ones diet than that..... how many are obese? Sugar is fine...... just limit the processed stuff (including honey) and enjoy natural sugars more with the benefits of fiber and micronutrients...4
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Honey isn't a natural sugar? I thought bees were part of nature.10
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Well, sugar is natural too,it grows in nature on sugar canes and is then processed to get to the table sugar we use.
like honey is natural in a bee hive and is then processed to get to the bottles on our table
not sure why honey has been singled out
But I think poster was meaning limit added sugars, including honey, and enjoy sugars already there in whole products, along with nutrients and fibre - eg in an orange
(not saying that is my view, it isnt - but that is what I understood him to be saying)3 -
Sugar was terrible after antibiotics for me. The GAPS diet helped me to eat sugar again. Now I’m carnivore and have mostly only milk sugar. A high sugar diet can make the body need more vitamins and minerals.1
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TheDevastator wrote: »Sugar was terrible after antibiotics for me. The GAPS diet helped me to eat sugar again. Now I’m carnivore and have mostly only milk sugar. A high sugar diet can make the body need more vitamins and minerals.
No, the body will not need more because of the sugar, but you may have to take in more to get the amount the body needs because of competing metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is a good example of this - vitamin C and glucose share the same metabolic pathway for absorption and the body will prioritize glucose over vitamin C, so it takes more intake of vitamin C to absorb the amount that the body actually needs.8 -
have you tried Oreo's dunked in coffee?!8
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nighthawk584 wrote: »have you tried Oreo's dunked in coffee?!
that actually sounds really good right now! If I was eating oreo's, that is :g2 -
nighthawk584 wrote: »have you tried Oreo's dunked in coffee?!
Oreo's and coffee should never be used in the same sentence together. (and yes, that disagree was from me)
#Iamacoffeesnob
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During my years growing up, I was surprised to discover that people with diabetes sometimes were short on sugar in their bodies and had to get a quick input to boost them back to normal.
So the lack of sugar is just as bad as too much sugar.4
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