Research followers of Fruitarianism..... dont get much more sugar in ones diet than that..... how many are obese? Sugar is fine...... just limit the processed stuff (including honey) and enjoy natural sugars more with the benefits of fiber and micronutrients...
Well, sugar is natural too,it grows in nature on sugar canes and is then processed to get to the table sugar we use.
like honey is natural in a bee hive and is then processed to get to the bottles on our table
not sure why honey has been singled out
But I think poster was meaning limit added sugars, including honey, and enjoy sugars already there in whole products, along with nutrients and fibre - eg in an orange
(not saying that is my view, it isnt - but that is what I understood him to be saying)
Sugar was terrible after antibiotics for me. The GAPS diet helped me to eat sugar again. Now I’m carnivore and have mostly only milk sugar. A high sugar diet can make the body need more vitamins and minerals.
Sugar was terrible after antibiotics for me. The GAPS diet helped me to eat sugar again. Now I’m carnivore and have mostly only milk sugar. A high sugar diet can make the body need more vitamins and minerals.
No, the body will not need more because of the sugar, but you may have to take in more to get the amount the body needs because of competing metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is a good example of this - vitamin C and glucose share the same metabolic pathway for absorption and the body will prioritize glucose over vitamin C, so it takes more intake of vitamin C to absorb the amount that the body actually needs.
During my years growing up, I was surprised to discover that people with diabetes sometimes were short on sugar in their bodies and had to get a quick input to boost them back to normal.
So the lack of sugar is just as bad as too much sugar.
Honey isn't a natural sugar? I thought bees were part of nature.
He didn't say honey is unnatural. He said it is processed. Bees do indeed do a kind of processing when making honey. He also clarifies that the issue is when sugar is uncoupled from fiber. It becomes easier to over consume sugar when it isn't with fiber, and it doesn't really matter to your taste buds if the fiber is removed by industrial processes or via bee gut rumination - the fiber's gone, reduced to atoms.
Sugar was terrible after antibiotics for me. The GAPS diet helped me to eat sugar again. Now I’m carnivore and have mostly only milk sugar. A high sugar diet can make the body need more vitamins and minerals.
No, the body will not need more because of the sugar, but you may have to take in more to get the amount the body needs because of competing metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is a good example of this - vitamin C and glucose share the same metabolic pathway for absorption and the body will prioritize glucose over vitamin C, so it takes more intake of vitamin C to absorb the amount that the body actually needs.
Every carnivore that pays attention knows about glucose and vitamin c fighting for absorption. You didn’t have to say no because it is because of the sugar making or increasing more glucose. There are other vitamins that get depleted like most of the b vitamins, zinc, and magnesium to name a few. I don’t think sugar in moderation is bad but when you go overboard, you may want to take a multivitamin and eat more nutrient dense foods then or the next day. The sugar bunch have struck the disagree button. I’m not sure why I posted in the main forums again. Haha.
Oreo's and coffee should never be used in the same sentence together. (and yes, that disagree was from me)
#Iamacoffeesnob
I am totally with you on this. Oreos = blurgh. Now, a couple of squares of good quality (like 75% cocoa) dark chocolate, something like Lindt Seasalt - that is the perfect accompaniment to coffee 😀
I need sugar when I lift: two hours training means I deplete my energy stores (medical issue) and quick sugar in the form of dextrose tablets or in something like a sport drink means I can complete my session. Then I’ll go and have a balanced meal. Absolutely nothing wrong with it in moderation. I am also addicted to pineapple - tonnes of sugar in that.
In answer to your subject heading question: two reasons 1. They enjoy it 2. They can't stop having it.
Are you asserting there is no real grounds for disagreement, it's simply a matter of sugar addiction driving people to state a point of view they would otherwise not?
In answer to your subject heading question: two reasons 1. They enjoy it 2. They can't stop having it.
Are you asserting there is no real grounds for disagreement, it's simply a matter of sugar addiction driving people to state a point of view they would otherwise not?
Some of the time, yes. I see people here on myfitnesspal message boards saying how they have sugar every day. I also see how infrequently people reach their goal weight here. Are the two related? Maybe.
In answer to your subject heading question: two reasons 1. They enjoy it 2. They can't stop having it.
Are you asserting there is no real grounds for disagreement, it's simply a matter of sugar addiction driving people to state a point of view they would otherwise not?
Some of the time, yes. I see people here on myfitnesspal message boards saying how they have sugar every day. I also see how infrequently people reach their goal weight here. Are the two related? Maybe.
Some of the people who claim to be eating sugar every day are at goal and have been there for years. The last comment I saw about regular sugar consumption was someone saying they have it daily as a pre-workout snack and this is someone whose physique is fantastic. So I'm not as sure as you are that the two are related.
The tinge of your comments is that it's somehow wrong and weak to eat foods that you enjoy, that it is related to an inability to stop. But what if part of the problem with weight management -- why so many people do fail -- is that so many have been convinced that we can't somehow enjoy the foods we like AND meet our weight management goals, so that we waste all the time flipping between "diet mode" and "real life"? If I like to have a bit of sugar and do that in the context of meeting my calorie goals, what's the problem?
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That is all.
Carry on.
like honey is natural in a bee hive and is then processed to get to the bottles on our table
not sure why honey has been singled out
But I think poster was meaning limit added sugars, including honey, and enjoy sugars already there in whole products, along with nutrients and fibre - eg in an orange
(not saying that is my view, it isnt - but that is what I understood him to be saying)
No, the body will not need more because of the sugar, but you may have to take in more to get the amount the body needs because of competing metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is a good example of this - vitamin C and glucose share the same metabolic pathway for absorption and the body will prioritize glucose over vitamin C, so it takes more intake of vitamin C to absorb the amount that the body actually needs.
that actually sounds really good right now! If I was eating oreo's, that is :g
Oreo's and coffee should never be used in the same sentence together. (and yes, that disagree was from me)
#Iamacoffeesnob
So the lack of sugar is just as bad as too much sugar.
I'm a simple man, chocolate, creme, and coffee works well together!
He didn't say honey is unnatural. He said it is processed. Bees do indeed do a kind of processing when making honey. He also clarifies that the issue is when sugar is uncoupled from fiber. It becomes easier to over consume sugar when it isn't with fiber, and it doesn't really matter to your taste buds if the fiber is removed by industrial processes or via bee gut rumination - the fiber's gone, reduced to atoms.
No, but I will now!
I am totally with you on this. Oreos = blurgh. Now, a couple of squares of good quality (like 75% cocoa) dark chocolate, something like Lindt Seasalt - that is the perfect accompaniment to coffee 😀
Are you asserting there is no real grounds for disagreement, it's simply a matter of sugar addiction driving people to state a point of view they would otherwise not?
Some of the time, yes. I see people here on myfitnesspal message boards saying how they have sugar every day. I also see how infrequently people reach their goal weight here. Are the two related? Maybe.
Some of the people who claim to be eating sugar every day are at goal and have been there for years. The last comment I saw about regular sugar consumption was someone saying they have it daily as a pre-workout snack and this is someone whose physique is fantastic. So I'm not as sure as you are that the two are related.
The tinge of your comments is that it's somehow wrong and weak to eat foods that you enjoy, that it is related to an inability to stop. But what if part of the problem with weight management -- why so many people do fail -- is that so many have been convinced that we can't somehow enjoy the foods we like AND meet our weight management goals, so that we waste all the time flipping between "diet mode" and "real life"? If I like to have a bit of sugar and do that in the context of meeting my calorie goals, what's the problem?