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corinasue1143 wrote: »Movies. You all explained hair cuts to me and I appreciate it. I still haven’t got a haircut.
Movies. Thinking about it only from the owners point of view. Why are they not open? Because they sell tickets online, it would be easy to limit people in each theater and plan ahead for distancing—every other row, seats between groups. Of course they wouldn’t be full and they often were on weekends before. But they might be fuller on weekdays since so many people are off work or working odd hours at home, and kids are out of school. I don’t ever go to the movies, so I don’t know how everything really works. It’s just that the movie theaters around here say they may have to close permanently because of the revenue lost, and I don’t see how they can fix that by staying closed now.
I think movie theaters have been well on their way to going the way of the dinosaur for a very long time. Most theaters where I am started reducing capacity about 10 years ago by taking out the smaller seating and putting in larger, more comfortable seating, recliners, etc. With restrictions in place, this would further reduce capacity...for example, one of the more popular theaters here called Flix Brewhouse has a max capacity of around 50 people in their largest auditorium. Most similar things in my area are opening up at a max of 20% of maximum capacity...so that auditorium would be allowed 12 people. At that point, it's probably more expensive to open up and have those operational costs than it is just to stay closed. We have a few business here in that position.
Most of the box office proceeds go to the production companies...theaters make little to no money at the box...most of their revenue is generated in concessions which is why they're so expensive. It's really an outdated model considering all of the other entertainment alternatives people have. Movie theaters have been on their way out for awhile.8 -
gradchica27 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »I watched a YouTube video about gymnasts returning to their gym to workout. They had temp check at the door, left shoes at door, and had to bring their belongings in a plastic tub, because cubbies are too close together. Then they proceeded into the gym and dumped all their tubs next to each other. No water fountains, but they can share a balance beam, and take turns on other equipment. I don't know if anyone is familiar with gymnastics, but that equipment does not get sanitized. Gymnasts are bare handed, barefooted(for the most part) and share and sweat on all mats, bars, beams, trampolines, etc for years! I had to just roll my eyes at the ridiculousness of social distancing (and/or lack thereof) in this type of situation.
How often do you put your mouth or eyes on the beam, though? As long as you keep your hands strictly away from your face until you can wash them, the virus is not coming through your foot into your body. It also isn’t transmitted through sweat.
I would be more concerned about circulated air, since some studies of actual cases have found transmission at quite a distance in enclosed spaces where people are breathing heavily.
Gymnasts are known to spit on their grips before bars, though. 🤷 And you know kids touch their faces...
My point was that none of the rules really made sense. The kids touch all the surfaces, but can't use cubbies or water fountains, but can put their belongings next to each other and share equipment.
And don’t get me started on bathrooms being closed. I have boys so they can find a tree, but moms? The girls’ team?
Speaking of bathrooms, due to a medical condition I can unpredictably need one urgently and was stressing a 45 minute drive home Sunday.8 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Movies. You all explained hair cuts to me and I appreciate it. I still haven’t got a haircut.
Movies. Thinking about it only from the owners point of view. Why are they not open? Because they sell tickets online, it would be easy to limit people in each theater and plan ahead for distancing—every other row, seats between groups. Of course they wouldn’t be full and they often were on weekends before. But they might be fuller on weekdays since so many people are off work or working odd hours at home, and kids are out of school. I don’t ever go to the movies, so I don’t know how everything really works. It’s just that the movie theaters around here say they may have to close permanently because of the revenue lost, and I don’t see how they can fix that by staying closed now.
My concern would be (and theirs might be) air circulation. There was a case somewhere where one person with covid spread it to everyone sitting on the same side of the room in the restaurant, and no one right across the aisle from them. The assumption was the air conditioning kept pushing the particles the positive person was shedding straight across all the other tables. If circulation or filtration is poor, any virus particles could just sit in that room or swirl through over and over. And you're all probably sitting in there for 2 plus hours.
I also wonder if the costs of opening and maintaining a large building like that simply can't be covered by a partial opening and it's actually less of a loss to keep it closed.
The air circulation issue is why my scaredy-cat butt will be avoiding pretty much any enclosed space I have no control over the environmental controls, other than grocery shopping, for the foreseeable future, unless it's something where I'll be in and out in a couple of minutes.
I have a friend who is a hair stylist and was not at all looking forward to going back to work due to not being allowed to have the AC on.
I have no idea if that applies to movie theaters - probably not, since the grocery store has AC - but I certainly have no interest in going to a public building with no AC this time of year here in Massachusetts.3 -
I went back to work yesterday. Today, we were notified that someone tested positive. Obviously they didn't tell us whom, and I'm guessing they had to have had symptoms and a test late last week or over the weekend. I'm surprised that this was the first that we know about where I work because it's a decent sized factory. Anyway, when they sent the announcement, a lot of people around me started panicking. Mind you, many of these people are stubborn about wearing their mask properly (if at all) at work and I'm sure they are in the 99% that doesn't wear a mask anywhere else (based on my observation at stores in the area).
I was talking about it with a co-worker and tried to explain my philosophy that we have to take precautions as though everyone is infected and spreading it around - including ourselves! With the number of asymptomatic carriers + the amount of time that people are infectious before they show symptoms (for those who ever show symptoms), it's a disaster if everyone keeps acting like we don't need to take any precautions if we feel fine.14 -
I've been going in one day a week (it's pretty empty). We've started officially opening, but my office has (based on others who have been there, I haven't been since the protests started as there were riots/looting downtown and actions to discourage anyone from coming in) continued to be pretty empty. As of next week we are encouraged to be there at least once a week on a scheduled day with others. That's my plan, and I think it may be somewhat back to normal in July (perhaps wishful thinking), if there's not a huge spike due to all the protests.
I'm not worried about my workplace (I have a personal office and it will be lightly staffed, and I will drive in), but mostly elevators, and if I have to stand in line to get in it's going to make the whole thing not worth it. My building and office requires masks in common areas (anywhere but a personal office).2 -
Has anyone else gone back and read this thread from the beginning? I just did that yesterday, and I'm not kidding that this should be preserved as a historic document. It's real-time thoughts, opinions, and experiences from people all over the world as this crisis evolved. It's a really interesting look at how our views and lives changed as this thing progressed. There are actually historians looking to preserve this type of documentation for future study...not sure if any of them are on MFP, though.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Has anyone else gone back and read this thread from the beginning? I just did that yesterday, and I'm not kidding that this should be preserved as a historic document. It's real-time thoughts, opinions, and experiences from people all over the world as this crisis evolved. It's a really interesting look at how our views and lives changed as this thing progressed. There are actually historians looking to preserve this type of documentation for future study...not sure if any of them are on MFP, though.
Yes! I was thinking about this when I started posting in this thread back in early March that it might play out like a sci-fi story, or that someone could compile all the comments and have them published into a book. I went back to where I left off and still it's like night and day (I stopped following in the latter part of March). I'm in healthcare and *kitten* got really real for me in late March and while I've not been furloughed, I have been quarantined and tested (early April), watched half my team take month long furloughs two months running, with a third about to happen, had my job scope really change and still haven't seen my mom since mid-February.
I was finding that the fear of the unknown, here, in the states coupled with what I was reading in this thread was kind of freaking me out, so I dropped out for a couple months and didn't even think it would still be rolling this long.
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Buttermello wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Some interesting discussions about how SARS-COV-2 is not a respiratory disease as much as a blood vessel disease.
https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/fulltext
Very interesting. That might explain why (here in Italy) survivors of COVID19 are asked to donate their blood. Andrea Boccelli just donated, and it was all over the News. The plasma is used on those who are fighting the disease. They've had good luck with this approach.
100% of the patients I work with are COVID positive, and we have been giving the plasma to the patients who qualify for it, for around 3 weeks now - the results are astounding! I'm in Chicago, FWIW.
Can you elaborate? Is this the cure and hope people have been waiting for? TBH, haven't read a lot about Covid-19 lately, it gets overwhelming.
I wouldnt say it's a cure, as not all patients qualify to have it, and receiving blood products has it's own inherent set of risks. It is an excellent treatment for certain patients though.4 -
our hospitals, nursing homes etc are NOT letting in visitors right now at all. I live in Ga. A sad case- my sister-in-law- lost her grandma in the nursing home yesterday- she feels she died on a broken heart- her grandma stopped eatting a while back, would not take meds, had forbidden the family to put in a feeding tube-(it seems that she THOUGHT they had "thrown her away"( her words) BECAUSE they stopped visiting her. They could not make her understand that due to COVID 19- they could not come to visit- only talk on phone or stand outside the window to wave- but everytime- she told them_"y'all done throwd me away"- this thing is SAD- on so many levels- Stay safe and continue to pray!!!!!!
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-lilly-exclusive-idUSKBN23H35SEli Lilly and Co could have a drug specifically designed to treat COVID-19 authorized for use as early as September if all goes well with either of two antibody therapies it is testing, its chief scientist told Reuters on Wednesday.3
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Has anyone else gone back and read this thread from the beginning? I just did that yesterday, and I'm not kidding that this should be preserved as a historic document. It's real-time thoughts, opinions, and experiences from people all over the world as this crisis evolved. It's a really interesting look at how our views and lives changed as this thing progressed. There are actually historians looking to preserve this type of documentation for future study...not sure if any of them are on MFP, though.
That's a good idea.
I was a member of a book discussion forum when 9/11 happened (yes, I'm that old), and the general chat thread had the first events being reported and then discussion of everything after -- at first it entirely took over the thread and then it go spun off into its own topic which went for ages with all the various reactions, related developments, etc. I saw a few years ago that it had been preserved despite the forum and successor forum no longer existing. I wonder if it still exists -- not sure I'd want to read through it, but maybe.4 -
My co-worker who has been most pushing for us to officially re-open next week (although staggered so the office is no more than 25% full each day) now cannot come in since they suspect their early 20s daughter who has been staying with them has COVID.14
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Haven't been on the thread much. Been nose to the grindstone at work.
In Tucson, they are battling what is likely the worst wildfire ever to hit the city. Nearly 30% of the Santa Catalinas are burning and it's been declared a FEMA disaster. I'm shocked not seeing more on the national news. No lives or buildings yet taken, which is great, but it grew from 100 acres to nearly 7000 acres since a lightning storm last week.
People and their pets being evacuated, mostly along the mountain close in, and mainly as a precaution with the "backburn" efforts. I think they now have 400 firefighters and elite "hot shot" teams from all over the Western States now fighting it. This (the "Bighorn Fire") and one in Alaska are the largest of what is shaping out to be a very dangerous fire season out West.
All I can think of (since AZ is blowing up with Covid-19) is these people being packed in high school gyms and their animals being forced into shelters, which thank goodness are mostly empty as most of the animals have been fostered with Covid-19. It's just a really hard situation for those folks. Many of the local hotels are taking them in and taking their pets, so that's a huge plus. But just another worry for these people on top of worrying about taking their homes. The Catalina Foothills are breathtakingly beautiful and that's the main area threatened currently.
My house should be fine, but it's scary to go out every morning and watch the fire line growing and growing dramatically. I'm around 8 miles out but can literally see the flames at night.
Actually, CNN article today is finally covering it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/weather/bighorn-fire-tucson-arizona/index.html18 -
The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
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The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
I love this story. You're going great.5 -
Can we hit the 'reset button' on 2020 yet? I'd like my money back.
@MikePfirrman - I hope the fire stays away and they are able to get it under control soon.The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
@wmweeza - it doesn't sound like you're obsessing. Preparing for a possibility isn't obsessing, it's being responsible. :flowerforyou:
Locally, mask wearing is compulsory, but they just yesterday allowed indoor dining to reopen at 50% capacity. I've been back at work for a few weeks. Most still aren't, but there was a need so a team of us are in. Masks are mandatory in the building when in common areas or in places where you cannot maintain at least 6 feet of distance. Luckily, my cube-farm has the requisite distance built in, so I don't have to wear the mask and attempt to concentrate.
It will be interesting to watch the COVID and hospitalization trends after the events of the past few weeks. Cases were already starting to increase in some states (including Arizona, where the hospitals are supposedly nearly at capacity - so stay safe with all the natural disasters in your area @MikePfirrman).
On another note - my mother, who lives in nearly nowhere U.S. and swears she had COVID in late December/very early January just got tested yesterday for antibodies. She should have results in early next week. I hope she's right and she had it and survived because she and my dad are high risk.9 -
I keep reading the story about Nick Cordero; what a struggle he and his family have been and are going through.
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We are at probably less than 1% mask use in public here. This is frustrating because it works best when everyone takes precautions.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/editorspicks/article/Study-100-face-mask-use-could-crush-second-15333170.php9 -
My heart is breaking for my 94 (almost 95) year old grandmother. She was in an apartment style living arrangement - not full assisted living. Something happened on Tuesday - she was in a lot of pain, couldn’t walk or communicate, maybe a fall. They took her to the hospital and they finally figured out she had a UTI (I never would have imagined the changes they can trigger in the elderly until she experienced one while staying with us a few years back - they mimick her stroke symptoms!). But because of the slow decline of her mental health (they have fought to keep at this same facility for about a year now) she can’t go back, so today she is going to a new place to live. My cousin can’t go with her or even ride in the van because of COVID, and because of the hospital visit, they (cousin or gma) can’t go back to her apt to get her stuff because COVID. So you have a confused, often depressed 94 year old woman who was abruptly uprooted from the little she knows in life and plopped in a new place with new people and next to nothing familiar in her surroundings - and no option for visitors. My husband is ready to drive 12 hours and pick her up to come stay with us for a little while (she lived with us for a few months before an unexpected move 3 years ago).
I hate COVID.35 -
The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
That is a good idea. I was just thinking a lot of things food wise is getting lower 90 days later.
Hopefully since the virus is wall to wall in the USA we can get this thing behind us but there is no way of knowing. While China is able to do hard lock downs I think they may have major break outs for the next 5-10 years but time will tell. Their food markets seem to be a source of spread again.
https://reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-beijing/beijing-district-in-wartime-emergency-after-virus-cluster-at-major-food-market-idUSKBN23K03V
From what I am hearing and seeing I do not think another shelter in place order will be successful in the USA. Shutting down police forces that is already under way may or may not help the spread of covid-19. Locally I talk to people in health care that do not plan to shut down as long a nation leaders are promoting marches that spread the virus.
In the USA the virus is the least of our problems that can impact our food supply it is starting to seem.
The burning of a trailer of horses by protesters has changed the minds of many in middle USA and more and more citizens are getting stocked up to meet force with a greater force. That may not work out well so we need to get prepped with a good stock of food due to violence spreading the virus in an uncontrollable manner.
Mask use is in step decline I notice. Store clerks are the main ones wearing them but they often wear them around their necks I noticed yesterday. I am more concerned about getting the virus than ever and the risk of flying bullets. Our mental health crisis has gone Pandemic from what I can see. This includes holders of terminal degrees. The churches are even dangerous with their militant talk and actions. Cities are losing control of the streets so I try to stay out of crowds but the way traffic is getting that is harder and harder to do.
I need to get some things ordered and some fuel stored. These are not the best of times to be 69 and physically handicapped. I am just glad I am not near a city. The college will be open in two months that that is going to double our population.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »We are at probably less than 1% mask use in public here. This is frustrating because it works best when everyone takes precautions.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/editorspicks/article/Study-100-face-mask-use-could-crush-second-15333170.php
Thanks for that article. Mask usage works to reduce the cases of we know in Asia. The mental side effect of the 2020 Pandemic just is not helping the west think rationally about mask usage. Normally mine is on the dash of the car but having had to walk back to the car a few times to get it now I carry one in a pocket with a hole in it so I have one on me at all times. This heat makes it harder for me to breath with a mask so it cuts down my shopping time so I can get my mask off as fast as possible.5 -
moonangel12 wrote: »My heart is breaking for my 94 (almost 95) year old grandmother. She was in an apartment style living arrangement - not full assisted living. Something happened on Tuesday - she was in a lot of pain, couldn’t walk or communicate, maybe a fall. They took her to the hospital and they finally figured out she had a UTI (I never would have imagined the changes they can trigger in the elderly until she experienced one while staying with us a few years back - they mimick her stroke symptoms!). But because of the slow decline of her mental health (they have fought to keep at this same facility for about a year now) she can’t go back, so today she is going to a new place to live. My cousin can’t go with her or even ride in the van because of COVID, and because of the hospital visit, they (cousin or gma) can’t go back to her apt to get her stuff because COVID. So you have a confused, often depressed 94 year old woman who was abruptly uprooted from the little she knows in life and plopped in a new place with new people and next to nothing familiar in her surroundings - and no option for visitors. My husband is ready to drive 12 hours and pick her up to come stay with us for a little while (she lived with us for a few months before an unexpected move 3 years ago).
I hate COVID.
That is sad and at the age of 69 something I think about more and more about my future since I am the oldest family member in my family. Hopefully one of the two kids will have a place for a trailer in the side or back yard. Assisting living options are just plan risky. Vaccinations may never happen for COVID like it has not for the HIV virus but if one does work successfully there will be COVID-22 or CIVID-30, etc coming at us.2 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
That is a good idea. I was just thinking a lot of things food wise is getting lower 90 days later.
Hopefully since the virus is wall to wall in the USA we can get this thing behind us but there is no way of knowing. While China is able to do hard lock downs I think they may have major break outs for the next 5-10 years but time will tell. Their food markets seem to be a source of spread again.
https://reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-beijing/beijing-district-in-wartime-emergency-after-virus-cluster-at-major-food-market-idUSKBN23K03V
From what I am hearing and seeing I do not think another shelter in place order will be successful in the USA. Shutting down police forces that is already under way may or may not help the spread of covid-19. Locally I talk to people in health care that do not plan to shut down as long a nation leaders are promoting marches that spread the virus.
In the USA the virus is the least of our problems that can impact our food supply it is starting to seem.
The burning of a trailer of horses by protesters has changed the minds of many in middle USA and more and more citizens are getting stocked up to meet force with a greater force. That may not work out well so we need to get prepped with a good stock of food due to violence spreading the virus in an uncontrollable manner.
Mask use is in step decline I notice. Store clerks are the main ones wearing them but they often wear them around their necks I noticed yesterday. I am more concerned about getting the virus than ever and the risk of flying bullets. Our mental health crisis has gone Pandemic from what I can see. This includes holders of terminal degrees. The churches are even dangerous with their militant talk and actions. Cities are losing control of the streets so I try to stay out of crowds but the way traffic is getting that is harder and harder to do.
I need to get some things ordered and some fuel stored. These are not the best of times to be 69 and physically handicapped. I am just glad I am not near a city. The college will be open in two months that that is going to double our population.
Are you sure the college is going to fully open? The junior college in our community has already stated for the fall the will have labs on the campus, but all other classes will be remote. The 20k student state school and 2k student private university are still trying to figure out what to do.
My daughter is online at Murray State University currently and their President Bob Jackson states all lights are on Green for students to be on campus. The reality if these old line colleges stay on line they will be closing down period and local businesses as well. The private housing business is huge and fast food is running help wanted ads like crazy because they depend on the college for staff and customers.
My son works for the area junior college and they are scheduled to be in the classrooms in August.
The shut down from March has thrown the USA into a funk like I have never seen before in my 69 years and I am not sure how this is going to end up. The mind set is to heck with the fear of COVID-19 so Full Speed ahead. It is clear if we continue to keep people from their normal activity they are going to find things more dangerous than COVID-19 to get in trouble over.4 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »The topic here is "Coronavirus prep", so I suppose it's appropriate to report our house is back in prep mode. When this all started we bought provisions, stocked up on basics, and hunkered down feeling well prepared. Recently things seem to have calmed down and items are coming back in stock at the stores, so we decided we are slowly going to start restocking again for the possiblilty of a second wave this fall. Heck it might take that long just to find some of the stuff that's still not back in stock! I can say here in California that our household and our loved ones weathered lockdown well. We planned ahead and made a schedule for each of us to go help my elderly mother in law. We've kept complete social distance, haven't killed eachother in quarantine, and still like eachother as a family so I'm considering that a win. It was bizarre to watch as the world suddenly seemed to stop for about a month, seems things are halfway normal now.
My husband is very concerned about the fall and the risk of a second wave, I can understand that. If it sounds like we are obsessing, we aren't. I feel fairly happy and relaxed, I just feel like there's a storm due to very slowly roll in...that may or not be really bad...so why not get ready?
I've been sewing masks since all this started and handing them out to anyone who needs them. Sewing and baking has kept me occupied and sane. The biggest thing for my husband was feeling helpless, so he LOVES handing out my masks, it makes him feel less helpless to do anything. Is it actually helping anyone? We don't know, but it won't hurt. It helps him for now...so I sew and bake everyday.
Life is somewhat back to normal, but daycare is closed, some stores have reopened, and parks are back open. About 30-35% of people wear masks now and keep their distance, but with each passing day that number gets smaller. I guess many don't believe there is a risk, or it's overblown.
Throughout all of this I have been so grateful that I lost the majority of the weight I needed to lose. I started out morbidly obese, now I have 35-40 pounds until I get to the finish line! With so many bad health outcomes (especially breathing) from obesity related complications with Covid it eases my mind to know at least I cancelled one risk factor off the list.
That is a good idea. I was just thinking a lot of things food wise is getting lower 90 days later.
Hopefully since the virus is wall to wall in the USA we can get this thing behind us but there is no way of knowing. While China is able to do hard lock downs I think they may have major break outs for the next 5-10 years but time will tell. Their food markets seem to be a source of spread again.
https://reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-beijing/beijing-district-in-wartime-emergency-after-virus-cluster-at-major-food-market-idUSKBN23K03V
From what I am hearing and seeing I do not think another shelter in place order will be successful in the USA. Shutting down police forces that is already under way may or may not help the spread of covid-19. Locally I talk to people in health care that do not plan to shut down as long a nation leaders are promoting marches that spread the virus.
In the USA the virus is the least of our problems that can impact our food supply it is starting to seem.
The burning of a trailer of horses by protesters has changed the minds of many in middle USA and more and more citizens are getting stocked up to meet force with a greater force. That may not work out well so we need to get prepped with a good stock of food due to violence spreading the virus in an uncontrollable manner.
Mask use is in step decline I notice. Store clerks are the main ones wearing them but they often wear them around their necks I noticed yesterday. I am more concerned about getting the virus than ever and the risk of flying bullets. Our mental health crisis has gone Pandemic from what I can see. This includes holders of terminal degrees. The churches are even dangerous with their militant talk and actions. Cities are losing control of the streets so I try to stay out of crowds but the way traffic is getting that is harder and harder to do.
I need to get some things ordered and some fuel stored. These are not the best of times to be 69 and physically handicapped. I am just glad I am not near a city. The college will be open in two months that that is going to double our population.
Are you sure the college is going to fully open? The junior college in our community has already stated for the fall the will have labs on the campus, but all other classes will be remote. The 20k student state school and 2k student private university are still trying to figure out what to do.
Right now, NC universities intend to open. My daughter has a move in date of August 12 or 13. Students will go home Thanksgiving, and do finals online. What all this will look like, I have no idea.
Our cases have started going up again. So I guess we will have to see what impact that has on these plans.
I work at a community college. My department will be completely virtual.3 -
We had a nice camper set up for her in N.C. - it gave her (and us) space and privacy, but she spent most waking hours with us in the house. Regular meals, help with meds, oversight when behavior changed (her sodium got dangerously low because the episode of dehydration that led to the move in with us had doctor’s pushing water), and beat of all for her, social interaction.GaleHawkins wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »My heart is breaking for my 94 (almost 95) year old grandmother. She was in an apartment style living arrangement - not full assisted living. Something happened on Tuesday - she was in a lot of pain, couldn’t walk or communicate, maybe a fall. They took her to the hospital and they finally figured out she had a UTI (I never would have imagined the changes they can trigger in the elderly until she experienced one while staying with us a few years back - they mimick her stroke symptoms!). But because of the slow decline of her mental health (they have fought to keep at this same facility for about a year now) she can’t go back, so today she is going to a new place to live. My cousin can’t go with her or even ride in the van because of COVID, and because of the hospital visit, they (cousin or gma) can’t go back to her apt to get her stuff because COVID. So you have a confused, often depressed 94 year old woman who was abruptly uprooted from the little she knows in life and plopped in a new place with new people and next to nothing familiar in her surroundings - and no option for visitors. My husband is ready to drive 12 hours and pick her up to come stay with us for a little while (she lived with us for a few months before an unexpected move 3 years ago).
I hate COVID.
That is sad and at the age of 69 something I think about more and more about my future since I am the oldest family member in my family. Hopefully one of the two kids will have a place for a trailer in the side or back yard. Assisting living options are just plan risky. Vaccinations may never happen for COVID like it has not for the HIV virus but if one does work successfully there will be COVID-22 or CIVID-30, etc coming at us.4 -
"Can we hit the 'reset button' on 2020 yet? I'd like my money back. :pCan we hit the 'reset button' on 2020 yet? I'd like my money back.
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This has been the worst year or so in my whole life and I'm no spring chicken. My whole house was flooded and we had to live in a crappy dark flat for a year( oh and I also lost my car too) , I've just got out of the cardiac unit last week when I was out for the first time in months because of Covid having a BBQ with the family and nope I didn't get to eat the cake I made at 6am because an ambulance took me away. There is more but thank god I forget the rest now... been never ending. Right now we are allowed to go away so have been in a very nice quiet spot inland in our caravan. Very happy now. We caught 13 redclaw crayfish too in the river. Even more happy lol.23 -
I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.7 -
I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.2 -
I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
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We have had some hefty bills from LabCorp in the past - I think they are $$$ for most everything. The local urgent care gave me a list of the prices for the place they use for general lab work and testing (we have a non-traditional health “insurance” and pay out of pocket for a lot of the small stuff) and it’s 75%-90% less for routine labs. Craziness!I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
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