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  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,054 Member
    edited October 2020
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    My OH just heard a news story that convinced him we are in for another bad period and wanted me to stock up on the essentials, "TP, paper towels, Fritos..."

    :D This gave me a laugh. Thanks. About fritos... roof/ceiling problems necessitated lakehouse renovation last summer, and the place is a time capsule. Spent a lot of time there when kids were little. Once they hit teenage years not so much. Found a nuclear winter stash of fritos. Those were the days, when I could count on frito pie to be an emergency crowd pleaser. Thanks for the memory.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,441 Member
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.

    In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.

    Given that 95% of all people get mono in their life with 50% happening before the age of 5, a reactivation of EBV could impact lots os people. I wonder if there is any correlation between likelihood of reactivation and severity of original infection.


  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,723 Member
    edited October 2020
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.

    Wouldn't surprise me. Messing with the T Cells and putting immunity out of balance. A lot of the "long haulers" symptoms remind me of chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia. Many believe that EBV is a possible contributor to Fibromyalgia.

    Made a B-Day dinner for our dear friends, who flew to visit their kids in Dallas a couple of weeks ago. They are in their late 70s and take every precaution they can.

    Interesting story they shared (we had been waiting to see them after they self quarantined) about the flight home. Said they flew AA and while snacks aren't served on planes, people are allowed to bring their own snacks, so the anti-maskers brought snacks and sat slowly eating them the entire flight, which lasted over an hour. The woman that's a friend had to sit next to one of these morons. She said he bought popcorn and ate it one kernel at a time, very slowly, the entire flight.

    This is the type of person that wouldn't likely even eat a snack normally, just doing it to be a pain in the rear for everyone on the flight and a real danger.

    They needed a snack for a 1 hr. flight?? That shouldn't even be allowed. Just wow....

    Locally, they kicked a couple 9-10 yo boys off a school bus until the first of the year because 1 boy had mints and shared them with the other boy; both of them dropped their mask to put the mints in their mouths, then put them back on. The parents put up such a fuss that the school system quickly returned their right to ride the bus, which I'm so glad they did(I mean come on, they're kids!). And they did change the rules to allow for kids' normal mistakes, 1st offense a warning, 2nd offense off the bus for 3 days, 3rd offense no bus for the rest of the season.

    And yet, an adult(I assume chronologically an adult though doesn't sound like they'd reached adult maturity yet)on a flight can manage to keep their mask off for an hour while munching away on popcorn. SMH

    I would think the woman had every right to complain, insist on mask compliance or get her seat changed. Something! For her own protection. :(
  • TonyB0588
    TonyB0588 Posts: 9,520 Member
    So not sure if they will be opening up bars again in my county. It's a local decision but seems like if one county does and another doesn't it's sort of a waste. Because people will just drive a few miles to a wet county.

    One thing about this whole crisis which I find interesting is that I hear of a lot more restrictions going into place in Europe again. And I hear folks saying = gotta go get my last meals out or visiting or whatever done BEFORE we lock down. In my mind it's seems like if your location is getting ready to lock down the LAST thing you would want to do is go be social? But maybe I just look at it from the standpoint of the REASON they are going to lock things down again is because the virus is spiking and hospitals are having a tough time so why would I risk being exposed? It must be human nature tho to think "it can't happen to me or my family".

    You're right. If it's so bad that restrictions are coming soon, there's no point risking being infected just before the lockdown. Here it is so good that the authorities are scared to remove final restrictions so we don't suddenly start to see a bad situation develop.
  • missysippy930
    missysippy930 Posts: 2,577 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.

    In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.

    Given that 95% of all people get mono in their life with 50% happening before the age of 5, a reactivation of EBV could impact lots os people. I wonder if there is any correlation between likelihood of reactivation and severity of original infection.


    This concerns me. I had mono when I was thirteen. I honestly can’t remember being sicker, for such a long time, during my lifetime. I’m in Minnesota. We are currently in an uptick of cases. It’s been cold here, and windy with our first measurable snowfall predicted for today.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,441 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    News blip said that 'Rona is triggering a reactivation of EBV. They can run tests. The reactivation is connected to inflammatory compounds only adding to C-19's symptoms. Sending it back into dormancy is not so easy.

    In the beginning, it seemed to me like combination of rheumatic fever, SARS, EBV and MERS all rolled into one big sheetstorm.

    Given that 95% of all people get mono in their life with 50% happening before the age of 5, a reactivation of EBV could impact lots os people. I wonder if there is any correlation between likelihood of reactivation and severity of original infection.


    This concerns me. I had mono when I was thirteen. I honestly can’t remember being sicker, for such a long time, during my lifetime. I’m in Minnesota. We are currently in an uptick of cases. It’s been cold here, and windy with our first measurable snowfall predicted for today.

    Mono is kind of crazy. I was thinking yesterday how in a way its character reminds me of COVID where for some they are so sick that diagnosis comes readily while for others there is no recognition that it is anything other than a cold.

    My husband, myself and daughter's husband, all must have had mono while young because years ago when daughter became obviously sick with it over college break (caught it from now-husband's roommate) none of the three of us got ill. My son on the other hand got obviously sick at 29 or 30 and the docs could not figure out what he had. I recognized it quickly (he got it exactly like his sister) and made him ask for mono test. Doc's declined. I told him to demand. Yup, positive. They were shocked. Adulthood is not the norm.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,441 Member
    Well, I'm back in full quarantine. An estimator who came to my house last week got sick the next day, took a covid test the day after that, the test came back positive on Saturday, and the company called me today to tell me.

    Fortunately I had contactless grocery delivery on the intervening weekend, and I haven't been anywhere else except for solo walks, so I don't have to worry that I could have passed it on to anyone. And it's been almost a week since the contact, so I only have one more week to go. No symptoms so far (we were only together outside, both masked, and not even facing each other because we were looking at the house while we talked about what needed to be done, so I think my odds are pretty good).

    Also glad I've replenished food, paper goods, etc. as the months have worn on.

    stay well!
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,185 Member
    SModa61 wrote: »
    Well, I'm back in full quarantine. An estimator who came to my house last week got sick the next day, took a covid test the day after that, the test came back positive on Saturday, and the company called me today to tell me.

    Fortunately I had contactless grocery delivery on the intervening weekend, and I haven't been anywhere else except for solo walks, so I don't have to worry that I could have passed it on to anyone. And it's been almost a week since the contact, so I only have one more week to go. No symptoms so far (we were only together outside, both masked, and not even facing each other because we were looking at the house while we talked about what needed to be done, so I think my odds are pretty good).

    Also glad I've replenished food, paper goods, etc. as the months have worn on.

    stay well!

    Thanks!
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,441 Member
    I wish there were more acknowledgement of diseases and conditions that have a far higher risk factor of death during this pandemic. My 94 year old grandmother died alone in a nursing home in the middle of this, not having been able to see her family for 6 weeks. We saw her through the window and talked in the phone, but she was always a very touchy feely person and even before the pandemic felt the lack of touch even we frequently visited her. Remember, infants can actually die from lack of touch. It affects adults profoundly too. She died in her sleep not from COVID, having largely lost the will to live, while being so isolated with no end in sight.
    My father has advanced Alzheimer’s and truly suffered from the initial isolation. He couldn’t understand why we all abandoned him in his eyes, refused to hug him and wore masks, which terrify him. Finally my mother put her foot down and said she wasn’t going to waste the little time he has left, making him feel scared and abandoned. How horrible we would feel if that’s the way his life ended in fear and loneliness.
    What about special needs kids who aren’t getting the therapy they so desperately need in person? Each year is critical for them, having lost it, they can’t regain ground and will suffer for a long time because of this.
    There’s also a risk in driving yet people choose to take that risk every day.
    I wish there were more acknowledgement of the nuances of this situation. Full disclosure, my brother in law is a hospital physician who works every day with COVID patients in two different hospitals. He is really annoyed at how people are freaking out so much about COVID while ignoring how much people are affected who suffer from other diseases that are barely acknowledged.
    There’s a lot of politics involved.

    I think this is a side that is not talked about enough. Thank you!