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MikePfirrman wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »@Gisel2015 - Yes, she does magnesium "oil" (magnesium dissolved in purified water) often. It's a trick we learned when she had severe fibromyalgia. It has helped some but until she got her blood sugar down, little was helping.
I can relate to what you went through with the OJ. She made chili last night and was talking about loading it up with saltines. I'm like, we don't need the saltines. It has beans in it already and we don't need a lot of crackers in it. I think she believes me about it but I can't wait till the doctor appointment and possibly to sit down with a Dietician. It won't be too hard for us, she quickly gave up a lot when she had Fibromyalgia to get out of pain but she held on to her sugar, just not realizing how much she was taking in.
I'm sorry @snowflake954 to hear about Italy again. So many places are like that in the US now, except I can't see us locking down again. We just have to decide what's worth it and protect ourselves. I wish masks were obligatory here. I just heard Russia made them mandatory yesterday as well. People would riot here if you make masks mandatory. Such emotional immaturity here.
Oh man, I would not eat saltines if you paid me! Different people are different obviously but I was shocked at how much they spiked my bg.
One thing I wish someone had told me when I first got my type 2 diagnosis - a lot of the time doctors won’t give you a meter if you’re type 2. Get one if you have to use your own money, and use it often until you learn your own tolerances! Funny how those saltines seem so little when they cross your mouth but not so little when you’re looking at 160 bg an hour later. And some of the canned goods which look bad on paper because of the added sugar turn out to be just fine because the added fat makes them hit your bloodstream more slowly. Every diabetic is different! Of course still crossing my fingers your wife doesn’t have it, but...
Honestly if she does have it, a lot of the symptoms of uncontrolled bg for me were similar to fibromyalgia. My hands and feet used to hurt a lot but it was just the glucose. And getting it under control feels so much better.
We're gluten free, because I'm Celiac, which is worse, believe it or not. GF products are loaded with rice and corn starch instead of wheat. I'm going to likely lean a bit on your insight. Been reading through the Diabetic support group. Thanks!
@MikePfirrman another direction you can look at are Keto foods/recipes. When doing Keto, wheat is not replaced with rice and corn. There are all different non-carb replacements you can check out. Somewhere I have a great keto cracker recipe that is all seeds, including chia w/ water as a binder. I've cooked gluten free at times for family, and I personally did keto for 6 weeks in 2018. There could be some useful substitutions for you.
Yes, keto is a great idea. Or you could do what I've done and go keto carnivore. If you only eat animals, then it should be gluten free. You only have to be careful to avoid heavily processed meats that have additives... but then eating real food instead of factory food is generally considered more ideal anyway.
The qualification I would give about Keto Carnivore, which was pretty much where I was at when forced to stop, is if one has any constipation type issues it can be a problem. In my last days, I was at 1-2g carbs/day. Had the worst hemorrhoid blow out of my life that literally lasted months (happened in July) and led to a non-negotiable hemorroidectomy in December. There were days I could not walk, and heck with any possible exercise. I also went very acidic resulting in burning urine. Thought I had a urinary tract infection and went to the doctor - nope just very acidic urine. Obviously, it works for many many people and I thought it was going to be for me as well. Apparently, my body or my method was not right for it. Glad you have found success with it @T1DCarnivoreRunner ! I still love many aspects of what I learned doing keto and steal from it from time to time while keeping my carbs at the lower end.
Thanks all, yeah, I'm looking at lower carb stuff like keto (for recipes mostly, not as a lifestyle). Her numbers came back yesterday. Said it was borderline, so we caught it early. Have a follow up appointment with the doc. We want to talk about all the symptoms she was showing. My guess would be her numbers improved to borderline normal because of all the sugars we've cut out already.
We were leaning heavily toward more plant based before all of this. I'm very familiar with Keto and Carnivore (I'm an indoor rower and know Shawn Baker before he got known for Carnivore). I'm just not sure that's for us. I'd rather try to stick with lower GI foods knowing what I know about the microbiome.
I appreciate all the ideas. I have a really difficult time on really low carbs. Tried it years ago and felt absolutely hideous. I would guess because my training is rigorous. Some do great with it, I'm not one of those folks.
@MikePfirrman I was primarily directing you towards checking some of the bread type keto replacements. Again, the keto crackers are very plant based (sunflower seeds, sesame seeds, flaxseed, chia seed, pumpkin seed, spices and water) and an amazing base for avocado toast. Keto also has a recipe called cloud bread I think which is primarily egg whites. Now you got me thinking, I need to make me some crackers and buy some avocados.
Hubby is heading out the door for his Stop the Spread Massachusetts free COVID test. Sunday night he flew home from getting his mother re-established in florida. Massachusetts requires 14 day quarentine or negative test. We had him quarantine til today to increase test validity.
I'm not keto, but I mostly don't eat things like crackers or bread (not worth the cals, IMO, and keto crackers seem like they would be higher cal than regular). Mainly, I tend to have one starchy food per meal -- i.e., if bread, no potato or chips or whatnot. So with a bean-based dish I'd not have crackers or bread. This is mostly just how I grew up eating. If keeping up the cals is a concern maybe switching to keto options would be helpful, but mostly one can eat higher fiber starches with protein and fat (beans are a great example) rather than needing to do low carb or keto for IR issues, I think.
There are exceptions, of course -- my sister and I had burgers and baked beans and corn on the 4th of July, and last Christmas I made a cassoulet which we had with garlic bread, among other sides. But that's holiday stuff.
For the most part I am currently eating like you. But sometimes, you just need other options.
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I saw a headline that the BAA has said the Boston Marathon 2021 will not happen in April. It will be delayed until fall 2021 at best. This makes sense because Covid is still a real issue and will likely still be in April.5
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snowflake954 wrote: »In Italy we heard a report on the news yesterday that the Oxford vaccine (Italy is participating, as well as other countries) is working very well. In elderly individuals it is boosting their immunity to the disease higher than expected. The vaccine will go into production soon. First to get it will be health workers, police, and the very fragile. A massive vaccination campaign is scheduled for the spring.snowflake954 wrote: »In Italy we heard a report on the news yesterday that the Oxford vaccine (Italy is participating, as well as other countries) is working very well. In elderly individuals it is boosting their immunity to the disease higher than expected. The vaccine will go into production soon. First to get it will be health workers, police, and the very fragile. A massive vaccination campaign is scheduled for the spring.
This is good news indeed. Unfortunately there's a segment of the population who're against any type of vaccination campaign for any disease. That will effectively leave a few gaps, but hopefully the numbers will come down to something more manageable.2 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »You are assuming that this virus was controllable. Viruses like sharks have been around longer than man and both seem to control the responses of man more than the other way around. It has been said from the get go this coming winter was going to be very hard but hopefully the experts are wrong. You are correct often the second and third waves are worse.
Out of the UK last week we heard Covid-19 may be with us for years to come. Keep in mind most of what we have heard since March 2020 has been filtered by non medical people.
We now understand the lack good health practices invites pandemics historically speaking.
It was. Several countries have done it/are doing it. But as the person above you said, it's too late for those that didn't get control of it early. The horse has well and truly bolted.
Will you please share the current Covid-19 stats for 3 of the several countries that you claim have done it/are doing it?
China has claimed the virus behind Covid-19 was the work of the USA and that may have some merit but most nations are pointing fingers towards mainland China. Assuming the virus did come from China once it was exported by plane directly to the USA west coast and to the east coast way of Italy medically speaking Covid-19 was not controllable in the USA or other countries period.
Today in the USA alone we are certain millions are walking around spreading the virus with no outward symptoms. A killer virus that can hide undetected by outward signs in infected humans is NOT controllable period. It can be Managed but not Controlled.
This link https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ gives you all the up to date statistics for the whole world. If you scroll through the Country section, you will see some countries with very small numbers, some with slightly larger numbers but no active cases, and some with very few active cases at the moment. The objective at all times is to keep those few cases isolated away from the rest of the population so that there is NO COMMUNITY SPREAD.6 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I saw a headline that the BAA has said the Boston Marathon 2021 will not happen in April. It will be delayed until fall 2021 at best. This makes sense because Covid is still a real issue and will likely still be in April.
I'm in Massachusetts, so it obviously made this evening's news. One of the comments that can give us some hope is that with the extent of planning/organizing that must be done in advance, risk assessment is a piece of the puzzle leading to postponement. Now, those are my words for what I heard/understood. For a full disclosure, I have decided that I am an optimistic sceptic. ( ie I am always questioning, but tend to embrace positive news over negative - if that makes sense)3 -
Gotta love California. Our new guideline to get us through the holidays. Ha
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »You are assuming that this virus was controllable. Viruses like sharks have been around longer than man and both seem to control the responses of man more than the other way around. It has been said from the get go this coming winter was going to be very hard but hopefully the experts are wrong. You are correct often the second and third waves are worse.
Out of the UK last week we heard Covid-19 may be with us for years to come. Keep in mind most of what we have heard since March 2020 has been filtered by non medical people.
We now understand the lack good health practices invites pandemics historically speaking.
It was. Several countries have done it/are doing it. But as the person above you said, it's too late for those that didn't get control of it early. The horse has well and truly bolted.
Will you please share the current Covid-19 stats for 3 of the several countries that you claim have done it/are doing it?
China has claimed the virus behind Covid-19 was the work of the USA and that may have some merit but most nations are pointing fingers towards mainland China. Assuming the virus did come from China once it was exported by plane directly to the USA west coast and to the east coast way of Italy medically speaking Covid-19 was not controllable in the USA or other countries period.
Today in the USA alone we are certain millions are walking around spreading the virus with no outward symptoms. A killer virus that can hide undetected by outward signs in infected humans is NOT controllable period. It can be Managed but not Controlled.
You are correct, managed is what I was meaning.
FWIW, New Zealand's current cases (as of yesterday). That one new case is someone in Managed Isolation (ie someone who has just arrived from overseas and is in mandatory MIQ for 14 days - yes, we have the audacity to confine anyone coming into the country to a 4/5 star hotel for a couple of weeks after arrival). The current community cases stem from someone who does some sort of repair work or something on ships, who contracted it on a ship they worked on recently, and close contacts of that person:
Australia is also doing well. The state of Victoria had a nasty re-emergence starting a few months back, and have just now come out of a very strict 12 week lockdown to get that under control (which they have).
Yes, both of these countries are islands. So's the UK. We most certainly had some advantages, but mostly our success in managing the pandemic was down to swift and decisive action by our leaders.
Yes!! I love the New Zealand model. I have a relative living there, so get a few updates on how well it has worked for them.5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Gotta love California. Our new guideline to get us through the holidays. Ha
Sorry had to Google since I thought it was internet BS.
So what is done if someone waves a middle finger at one or all of the guidelines?
Probably nothing as I'm sure there will be a lot.4 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Gotta love California. Our new guideline to get us through the holidays. Ha
Sorry had to Google since I thought it was internet BS.
So what is done if someone waves a middle finger at one or all of the guidelines?
Someone posted this on Facebook. I thought it was a joke! This is real????2 -
As of a few weeks ago, our governor wants us to wear masks in between bites while eating in restaurants.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Gotta love California. Our new guideline to get us through the holidays. Ha
Sorry had to Google since I thought it was internet BS.
So what is done if someone waves a middle finger at one or all of the guidelines?
Nothing. It's not enforceable. They're just hoping that people will see the guidelines and be more thoughtful and cautious this season. Maybe try to adhere somewhat to it. Better than putting out no guidance at all and people just think it's business as usual.8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Dyer County, TN (northwest TN) has a mask mandate again, started 10/22. It wasn't enforced in Sept. before it expired (Sept. 28), and I have no expectation that anyone will enforce it now. But it is a nice idea in theory. I saw 2 deputies on Sunday not wearing masks... if the county law enforcement won't even follow the county mask mandate, why should I think anyone else will?
ETA: This time, it expires at the end of the year.
Speaking of Tennessee:
https://www.vumc.org/health-policy/sites/default/files/public_files/Vanderbilt COVID19 Report-Oct 27.pdf
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So... I may have had an exposure this past weekend. Getting tested tomorrow morning (yay for free testing for all residents in my city). Would rather get tested and get a negative, then not get tested and be positive and not know about it. If I have symptoms then they are mild and hiding behind the horrible fall allergies I have been dealing with. I have literally had a cough for a month at this point.
Still... I admit I am nervous. I am high risk and my immune system is already stressed. We will see and hope I guess.
Think I'm still safe. I finally "know" someone who actually has it. A son of a work colleague, returning home from an overseas trip. All arrivals from "high-risk" countries are quarantined in designated hotels until a second negative test. A positive result on any of those two tests results in being immediately transported to the government-run isolation facility until recovery. So he never got the chance to move around in the general population before his condition revealed itself.9 -
Someone knocked loudly on my door this afternoon, going door to door with a clipboard and a mask that he immediately pulled down when he began speaking. I told him to stay back if he was going to do that (he had stepped off the porch before I opened the door but began walking toward me after he pulled the mask down).
I didn't listen to much of his spiel, as it started by implying he was from my electric utility when I don't think he was (different company name on his shirt -- I read all my bill inserts, so if it were an affiliate company, I think I would know). He also seemed to want to come inside for an energy audit -- no way if the first thing you do is take the mask off. Everybody who has come to house from various legit service companies (plumbing, heating system, etc.) since March has been very good about wearing masks the whole time. Scammers need to get their act together if they want their con(fidence) act to work.
On the upside, I'm finished with my quarantine after my exposure to someone who tested positive (we both wore our masks while we were talking together, outside, so I'm not surprised I never had any symptoms -- I didn't get tested, so I can't swear I wasn't infected). Going to head out to the post office in a bit with some bills I've been waiting to pay until my quarantine was over. Maybe I'll pick up some food while I'm out. Whoo-hoo, living large. 17 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Someone knocked loudly on my door this afternoon, going door to door with a clipboard and a mask that he immediately pulled down when he began speaking. I told him to stay back if he was going to do that (he had stepped off the porch before I opened the door but began walking toward me after he pulled the mask down).
I didn't listen to much of his spiel, as it started by implying he was from my electric utility when I don't think he was (different company name on his shirt -- I read all my bill inserts, so if it were an affiliate company, I think I would know). He also seemed to want to come inside for an energy audit -- no way if the first thing you do is take the mask off. Everybody who has come to house from various legit service companies (plumbing, heating system, etc.) since March has been very good about wearing masks the whole time. Scammers need to get their act together if they want their con(fidence) act to work.
On the upside, I'm finished with my quarantine after my exposure to someone who tested positive (we both wore our masks while we were talking together, outside, so I'm not surprised I never had any symptoms -- I didn't get tested, so I can't swear I wasn't infected). Going to head out to the post office in a bit with some bills I've been waiting to pay until my quarantine was over. Maybe I'll pick up some food while I'm out. Whoo-hoo, living large.
You handled that situation really well. I don't think that guy was genuine at all.
Recently had issues with our home phone. The company called to confirm the technician's visit time and assured us that he would be wearing a mask and following all the mandatory COVID19 protocols.
As to those bills you were waiting to go out and pay after quarantine, this virus has taught a lot more people about online bill payment systems. I was gradually evolving over the last few years, but during the lockdown it wasn't possible to go out to pay anything, so my list is now complete. One company has a slogan - why stand in line when you can pay online?6 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Someone knocked loudly on my door this afternoon, going door to door with a clipboard and a mask that he immediately pulled down when he began speaking. I told him to stay back if he was going to do that (he had stepped off the porch before I opened the door but began walking toward me after he pulled the mask down).
I didn't listen to much of his spiel, as it started by implying he was from my electric utility when I don't think he was (different company name on his shirt -- I read all my bill inserts, so if it were an affiliate company, I think I would know). He also seemed to want to come inside for an energy audit -- no way if the first thing you do is take the mask off. Everybody who has come to house from various legit service companies (plumbing, heating system, etc.) since March has been very good about wearing masks the whole time. Scammers need to get their act together if they want their con(fidence) act to work.
On the upside, I'm finished with my quarantine after my exposure to someone who tested positive (we both wore our masks while we were talking together, outside, so I'm not surprised I never had any symptoms -- I didn't get tested, so I can't swear I wasn't infected). Going to head out to the post office in a bit with some bills I've been waiting to pay until my quarantine was over. Maybe I'll pick up some food while I'm out. Whoo-hoo, living large.
You handled that situation really well. I don't think that guy was genuine at all.
Recently had issues with our home phone. The company called to confirm the technician's visit time and assured us that he would be wearing a mask and following all the mandatory COVID19 protocols.
As to those bills you were waiting to go out and pay after quarantine, this virus has taught a lot more people about online bill payment systems. I was gradually evolving over the last few years, but during the lockdown it wasn't possible to go out to pay anything, so my list is now complete. One company has a slogan - why stand in line when you can pay online?
I pay most things online, but these two I used to go out of my way to pay in person on my way to work as an excuse to take an extra long walk. The last time I looked at their online payment site, they had really onerous user terms where you give up way too much in privacy and liability (both liability they ask you to assume and liability they ask you to relieve them of), plus fees for the privilege of paying online.
They send the paper bills really early, and even without extra exercise (since I'm WFH), it's nice to occasionally have an excuse to get out of the house, and the car does need to be taken out on the road occasionally to keep it in running condition. I've gone two and even three weeks between drives sometimes during the last seven months.1 -
How do you think that? Scofflaw?Theoldguy1 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Gotta love California. Our new guideline to get us through the holidays. Ha
Sorry had to Google since I thought it was internet BS.
So what is done if someone waves a middle finger at one or all of the guidelines?
Nothing. It's not enforceable. They're just hoping that people will see the guidelines and be more thoughtful and cautious this season. Maybe try to adhere somewhat to it. Better than putting out no guidance at all and people just think it's business as usual.
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For those who will have family/college kids staying with you over the holidays, how are preparing your homes?
We bought this last year for one daughter’s bedroom because she complained of allergies. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VGIGVY
DH thinks it’s all placebo and actually does nothing. It purports to have UV radiation in addition to hepa filter. My dentist put them in all his exam rooms after reopening. I’m wondering if it would help to have one in each person’s room, just to minimize circulation of anything that they might exhale. When anyone in our family had to quarantine during the summer, they spent ALL their time in their room or outside. (With room service provided by moi.) we also worked on making outdoor spaces better for colder weather.
What do you guys think? Do the stand alone air filters make a difference?
Im also interested in how you’re preparing mentally.2 -
Yesterday it was reported here that some restaurants (Minnesota Twin Cities metro area) are voluntarily closing until Spring. Winter came early this year, and outside dining isn’t realistic, or desirable. It’s not economically feasible for many of them to stay open at such limited capacity. Covid is spiking here, as it is in so many places in our country. Positivity rate was at a little over 11% yesterday.
JW, for those in California, how, or even will, your state be enforcing their new guidelines? Do they think people will just follow them because it will slow the spread. How’s that working for masks and social distancing throughout the country. Apparently not well.4 -
Same here, missysippy. They've sent the task force out from D.C. to our hospitals, 500-700 new cases every day.
'Rona messes with your head even when you're not thinking about it. It's running in the background. My priorities have changed. The small things don't matter and don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. We've got more important things to do than worry our heads over things that will not matter two weeks from now.5 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »Same here, missysippy. They've sent the task force out from D.C. to our hospitals, 500-700 new cases every day.
'Rona messes with your head even when you're not thinking about it. It's running in the background. My priorities have changed. The small things don't matter and don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. We've got more important things to do than worry our heads over things that will not matter two weeks from now.
I'm with you hon. Italy's cases are skyrocketing and we're in a mini Lockdown. Yes, it's depressing if you dwell on it. My pool-fitness center closed, and I depended on it to get me through. I decided to mimic my program at home, substituting walk-jogging for swimming. This morning I got up early, pulled out a step stool, my elastic bands, broomstick, and two 5 lb water bottles (better than nothing). I did an hour, incorporating squats, and other exercises I've been wanting to try (sitting against a wall). It lifted my mood. Tomorrow I'll go for a jog around the piazza for an hour. Now if I could just lose 10lbs--there's always hope.
If the News continues to be bad, I may just pull the plug on the TV.15 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Diatonic12 wrote: »Same here, missysippy. They've sent the task force out from D.C. to our hospitals, 500-700 new cases every day.
'Rona messes with your head even when you're not thinking about it. It's running in the background. My priorities have changed. The small things don't matter and don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. We've got more important things to do than worry our heads over things that will not matter two weeks from now.
If the News continues to be bad, I may just pull the plug on the TV.
Another good reason for pulling the plug on the tv here besides covid news, is political ads. It’s just too depressing. We all need more positivity. 2020 has been a very bad year.13 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »You are assuming that this virus was controllable. Viruses like sharks have been around longer than man and both seem to control the responses of man more than the other way around. It has been said from the get go this coming winter was going to be very hard but hopefully the experts are wrong. You are correct often the second and third waves are worse.
Out of the UK last week we heard Covid-19 may be with us for years to come. Keep in mind most of what we have heard since March 2020 has been filtered by non medical people.
We now understand the lack good health practices invites pandemics historically speaking.
It was. Several countries have done it/are doing it. But as the person above you said, it's too late for those that didn't get control of it early. The horse has well and truly bolted.
Will you please share the current Covid-19 stats for 3 of the several countries that you claim have done it/are doing it?
China has claimed the virus behind Covid-19 was the work of the USA and that may have some merit but most nations are pointing fingers towards mainland China. Assuming the virus did come from China once it was exported by plane directly to the USA west coast and to the east coast way of Italy medically speaking Covid-19 was not controllable in the USA or other countries period.
Today in the USA alone we are certain millions are walking around spreading the virus with no outward symptoms. A killer virus that can hide undetected by outward signs in infected humans is NOT controllable period. It can be Managed but not Controlled.
You are correct, managed is what I was meaning.
FWIW, New Zealand's current cases (as of yesterday). That one new case is someone in Managed Isolation (ie someone who has just arrived from overseas and is in mandatory MIQ for 14 days - yes, we have the audacity to confine anyone coming into the country to a 4/5 star hotel for a couple of weeks after arrival). The current community cases stem from someone who does some sort of repair work or something on ships, who contracted it on a ship they worked on recently, and close contacts of that person:
Australia is also doing well. The state of Victoria had a nasty re-emergence starting a few months back, and have just now come out of a very strict 12 week lockdown to get that under control (which they have).
Yes, both of these countries are islands. So's the UK. We most certainly had some advantages, but mostly our success in managing the pandemic was down to swift and decisive action by our leaders.
Yes!! I love the New Zealand model. I have a relative living there, so get a few updates on how well it has worked for them.
New Zealand made the right decision very early on of being an island.10 -
For those who will have family/college kids staying with you over the holidays, how are preparing your homes?
We bought this last year for one daughter’s bedroom because she complained of allergies. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VGIGVY
DH thinks it’s all placebo and actually does nothing. It purports to have UV radiation in addition to hepa filter. My dentist put them in all his exam rooms after reopening. I’m wondering if it would help to have one in each person’s room, just to minimize circulation of anything that they might exhale. When anyone in our family had to quarantine during the summer, they spent ALL their time in their room or outside. (With room service provided by moi.) we also worked on making outdoor spaces better for colder weather.
What do you guys think? Do the stand alone air filters make a difference?
Im also interested in how you’re preparing mentally.
I'm interested in the answers about air filters. I've been hearing about them being used in schools, etc.
I was very sick with chemical sensitivity 20 years ago and bought two very expensive ones, which may have helped with chemicals, but I also developed noise sensitivity and could not stand the fan noise
I found one when I was cleaning out Mom's barn and was wondering if I should hang on to it and if I can get a filter for it that would do something for the coronavirus, but can't imagine a situation where I'd actually use it - we're just spending the holidays with my mother and brother, with whom we've been maskless around this whole time (and we are not out in the world much at all.)0 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »'Rona messes with your head even when you're not thinking about it. It's running in the background. My priorities have changed. The small things don't matter and don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. We've got more important things to do than worry our heads over things that will not matter two weeks from now.
QFT.
"Running in the background" is so true.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »For those who will have family/college kids staying with you over the holidays, how are preparing your homes?
We bought this last year for one daughter’s bedroom because she complained of allergies. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VGIGVY
DH thinks it’s all placebo and actually does nothing. It purports to have UV radiation in addition to hepa filter. My dentist put them in all his exam rooms after reopening. I’m wondering if it would help to have one in each person’s room, just to minimize circulation of anything that they might exhale. When anyone in our family had to quarantine during the summer, they spent ALL their time in their room or outside. (With room service provided by moi.) we also worked on making outdoor spaces better for colder weather.
What do you guys think? Do the stand alone air filters make a difference?
Im also interested in how you’re preparing mentally.
I'm interested in the answers about air filters. I've been hearing about them being used in schools, etc.
I was very sick with chemical sensitivity 20 years ago and bought two very expensive ones, which may have helped with chemicals, but I also developed noise sensitivity and could not stand the fan noise
I found one when I was cleaning out Mom's barn and was wondering if I should hang on to it and if I can get a filter for it that would do something for the coronavirus, but can't imagine a situation where I'd actually use it - we're just spending the holidays with my mother and brother, with whom we've been maskless around this whole time (and we are not out in the world much at all.)
My understanding is the filter isn't effective on viral particles but the UV radiation is. I would not like the fan noise, either, but my daughters learned to prefer white noise for sleep when they lived in dorms. I hope your holidays are nice with your small crew. :flowerforyou:1 -
Question about COVID risk assessment...
I have an opportunity to be an Election Judge on Tuesday. Indoors all day, and I would be wearing a mask, but masks can't be mandated for voters, and there can't be health checks/temperature screenings. Social distancing would be encouraged, but I imagine if you're helping someone with a voting machine, there's only so much you can do to stay 6 feet apart.
I live in an area where mask-wearing is very common and expected everywhere, so I doubt there would be many (if any) un-masked people there to vote. I am not in a high-risk group, but I have family members (not in my household) who are. I guess I'm most worried about the length of time in an indoor space with potentially thousands of different people. Our COVID positivity rates have been spiking in the last few weeks.
It's a dilemma for me, because I want very much to do what I can to help people vote. But, I'm also very nervous about the risks.
I'll obviously have to make my own best decision on this, but just curious as to what you all would do.10 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Question about COVID risk assessment...
I have an opportunity to be an Election Judge on Tuesday. Indoors all day, and I would be wearing a mask, but masks can't be mandated for voters, and there can't be health checks/temperature screenings. Social distancing would be encouraged, but I imagine if you're helping someone with a voting machine, there's only so much you can do to stay 6 feet apart.
I live in an area where mask-wearing is very common and expected everywhere, so I doubt there would be many (if any) un-masked people there to vote. I am not in a high-risk group, but I have family members (not in my household) who are. I guess I'm most worried about the length of time in an indoor space with potentially thousands of different people. Our COVID positivity rates have been spiking in the last few weeks.
It's a dilemma for me, because I want very much to do what I can to help people vote. But, I'm also very nervous about the risks.
I'll obviously have to make my own best decision on this, but just curious as to what you all would do.
This would personally be too much risk for me, but I can also see the value in helping others vote and I wouldn't think someone else was being foolhardy if their priorities led them to make a different call.4 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Question about COVID risk assessment...
I have an opportunity to be an Election Judge on Tuesday. Indoors all day, and I would be wearing a mask, but masks can't be mandated for voters, and there can't be health checks/temperature screenings. Social distancing would be encouraged, but I imagine if you're helping someone with a voting machine, there's only so much you can do to stay 6 feet apart.
I live in an area where mask-wearing is very common and expected everywhere, so I doubt there would be many (if any) un-masked people there to vote. I am not in a high-risk group, but I have family members (not in my household) who are. I guess I'm most worried about the length of time in an indoor space with potentially thousands of different people. Our COVID positivity rates have been spiking in the last few weeks.
It's a dilemma for me, because I want very much to do what I can to help people vote. But, I'm also very nervous about the risks.
I'll obviously have to make my own best decision on this, but just curious as to what you all would do.
I would do it. I actually was thinking seriously about doing it, but ended up having a work conflict on Tuesday.3 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Question about COVID risk assessment...
I have an opportunity to be an Election Judge on Tuesday. Indoors all day, and I would be wearing a mask, but masks can't be mandated for voters, and there can't be health checks/temperature screenings. Social distancing would be encouraged, but I imagine if you're helping someone with a voting machine, there's only so much you can do to stay 6 feet apart.
I live in an area where mask-wearing is very common and expected everywhere, so I doubt there would be many (if any) un-masked people there to vote. I am not in a high-risk group, but I have family members (not in my household) who are. I guess I'm most worried about the length of time in an indoor space with potentially thousands of different people. Our COVID positivity rates have been spiking in the last few weeks.
It's a dilemma for me, because I want very much to do what I can to help people vote. But, I'm also very nervous about the risks.
I'll obviously have to make my own best decision on this, but just curious as to what you all would do.
Personally, I wouldn't do it... but I'm in a high risk group medically. If I wasn't, I would probably see if I could find a mask that is N95 to wear for my protection and then put a fashionable cloth mask over it for additional good measure and appearance.3
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