Coronavirus prep
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kshama2001 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »My company is taking surveys about how we would feel WFH 3 days/wk, in office for two, but no assigned cubes. (i.e. you just get assigned one on the two days you're in).
I'm all for that. I work more from home without the 45 min commute each way.
My company has tossed around a similar possibility and I have to say, the thought of sitting at a desk that some other random person sat at the day before makes me gag. There's the in-office nail clippers, the people that eat all kinds of greasy or crumbly food at their desks, etc. There are not enough sanitizing wipes in the world to make me comfortable 😷
So you never use public transportation?
I haven't since March 16 (I remember since it was a Monday after the week in which covid gradually became the biggest thing, and immediately after the St Patrick's Day observed weekend when lots of people locally were acting like complete idiots in the bars). After I got to work that day, I was "am I crazy." I rode it home that night (the L, brown line) and it was already pretty much empty (had been that morning too), and drove to work the next three days (worked from home on that Friday). Since then, I've driven every time I've come into the office or gone somewhere I would ordinarily take public transit since (unless close enough to walk).
Personally, though, pre covid, it never bothered me (some lines were cleaner than others), but it's also a limited time and IME you don't feel like it's yours so you are touching things in the way I do when sitting in my office. It is likely irrational, but I'd really hate having a communal desk. (Probably not likely, but I do think there will be a movement to reduce/consolidate office space after this, and to let people work more from home. I like the flexibility, but I miss working in the office with my co workers a lot, and still do about once a week (was doing it more before the cases spiked up again). However, I also do like that it takes me no time to get to work. Back in the day even the L was faster than commuting, but now driving is way faster. Parking would be too expensive to be worth it if my employer weren't currently paying, however.)Theoldguy1 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »My company is taking surveys about how we would feel WFH 3 days/wk, in office for two, but no assigned cubes. (i.e. you just get assigned one on the two days you're in).
I'm all for that. I work more from home without the 45 min commute each way.
My company has tossed around a similar possibility and I have to say, the thought of sitting at a desk that some other random person sat at the day before makes me gag. There's the in-office nail clippers, the people that eat all kinds of greasy or crumbly food at their desks, etc. There are not enough sanitizing wipes in the world to make me comfortable 😷
So you never use public transportation?
Nope, owned my own car since the age of 16. I've never lived in an area where public transport was a big thing.
I'm in the same situation with car since 16. We have public transit were I live now but have never been on it. Have been on subways, etc. on trips to larger cities as well as planes, airport and other shuttles. Those are dirty as all get our but I just suck it up and figure I'm building my immune system.
They were redoing some of our offices before 'rona and in the new designs nobody had an assigned area (except for a small locker) with typically working there 5 days a week. You just came in and sat down in an open slot.
...I find the discussion about working from home being distracting interesting, because in my experience it’s the opposite. I work as a video game artist and being in an office meant everyone was always hanging out together or gaming or eating, when it wasn’t time for a pointless meeting. Working from home, you do what needs done to meet the deadline in a focused fashion, then the rest of your time is your own.
Yes, I found my coworkers FAR more distracting when I was in the same building with them as opposed to 1,000 + miles away.
ITA. In office, I spent at least an hour a day with someone standing in my office doorway rambling on about something I did not need to know. Not to mention people having loud conversations, smelling their food. I get more sleep now too, minus the commute, so I get more done in the AM than I used to. I intend to ask to WFH at least a day or two a week when the apocalypse is over.
To be fair, I'm 100% an introvert, and have no trouble focusing and ignoring the world when I'm by myself
@kimny72
When asked "What will you miss about 2020?" one person responded they will miss having the ability to mute their colleagues.
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So I'm listening to This Week in Virology and they said Moderna in their trial did a nasal swab several days after giving the first shot. Since the virus is spread mostly through respiratory droplets, testing for evidence of the virus by nasal swab is considered a good way to test for infectiousness (If you don't have viral particles in your nose, you probably aren't expelling viral particles when you breath or talk). And Moderna's initial data suggests that after just the first shot, the vaccine did partially reduce infectiousness, not just disease. They stressed again this is limited data, and there was no data on this for after the second shot, but they still see hope that the mRNA vaccines will at least reduce infectiousness somewhat.16
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snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
I suspect the first two (Christmas and New Year) are designed to discourage large gatherings for those events.3 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
That's true, but our "legal days" are still strict, and have been for 2 months. What makes me mad is that we're paying for the people who aren't careful enough. There are crowds shopping, in outside bars, etc and are too close together. The great exodus North to South has started. People have to get tested before moving, because there will be check points on the freeways, train stations, and airports. Sigh.
I'm venting, because it means I'll be locked up cooking for everyone--Christmas Eve (fish), Christmas Day, St Stephen's (26th), New Years Eve, New Years Day, and Ephifany. All big holidays here (Italy) with lots of traditional food. I can't even go for a walk in the afternoons, or take a break in a coffee shop with a cappuccino. My son and wife and little kiddies (live across the landing) will be here since she can't be with her parents part of the time (they live outside Rome and the rules say everyone stays home). That means cooking for 6 adults for all these meals. Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.24 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
That's true, but our "legal days" are still strict, and have been for 2 months. What makes me mad is that we're paying for the people who aren't careful enough. There are crowds shopping, in outside bars, etc and are too close together. The great exodus North to South has started. People have to get tested before moving, because there will be check points on the freeways, train stations, and airports. Sigh.
I'm venting, because it means I'll be locked up cooking for everyone--Christmas Eve (fish), Christmas Day, St Stephen's (26th), New Years Eve, New Years Day, and Ephifany. All big holidays here (Italy) with lots of traditional food. I can't even go for a walk in the afternoons, or take a break in a coffee shop with a cappuccino. My son and wife and little kiddies (live across the landing) will be here since she can't be with her parents part of the time (they live outside Rome and the rules say everyone stays home). That means cooking for 6 adults for all these meals. Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Wow.. thats a lot of cooking.
Happy birthday for tomorrow, I hope the family helps and gives you a little break 🙂5 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
I suspect the first two (Christmas and New Year) are designed to discourage large gatherings for those events.
I agree with this. Our governor (Minnesota) is opening a few things up, but holding off on others until after the new year. Restaurants are opening today for outside dining only if the temperature is above 27F. Gyms @ 25% capacity or limited to 100 persons in larger gyms. Gatherings limited to 2 families if indoors, 3 families if outdoors. I’m pretty sure it’s to get us through the New Year without any new surge. This is Minnesota. I’ve never heard of people celebrating Christmas or dining outside in the winter. It’s been unseasonably nice here. We got a dusting of snow last night. but, still, JMHO, not warm enough to dine outside or celebrate outside. 🤷🏻♀️ No changes in our plans for Christmas or new year’s from months ago. It’s frustrating, but hoping for a better 2021.
Also, as with most states, an issue of not receiving allotments of the vaccine that were supposed to be here. Looks like it will be a long process.2 -
@Snowflake Happy Birthday to you; try to remember this too shall pass. With luck, faith, and good science, it'll get better. Oh AND better compliance by all!!!!
I am completely with you on your statement about paying for the people who aren't being careful.
This year will be our 1st ever that none of our kids will be here with us during the holidays. There have always been a good-sized gathering for Christmas; this year i's dh and myself.:( Yet I keep hearing about other families that are still living life like usual, and have ever since this whole thing began. So yes, I totally get it and it makes me angry, bitter and resentful. But what are you gonna do? 10 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
That's true, but our "legal days" are still strict, and have been for 2 months. What makes me mad is that we're paying for the people who aren't careful enough. There are crowds shopping, in outside bars, etc and are too close together. The great exodus North to South has started. People have to get tested before moving, because there will be check points on the freeways, train stations, and airports. Sigh.
I'm venting, because it means I'll be locked up cooking for everyone--Christmas Eve (fish), Christmas Day, St Stephen's (26th), New Years Eve, New Years Day, and Ephifany. All big holidays here (Italy) with lots of traditional food. I can't even go for a walk in the afternoons, or take a break in a coffee shop with a cappuccino. My son and wife and little kiddies (live across the landing) will be here since she can't be with her parents part of the time (they live outside Rome and the rules say everyone stays home). That means cooking for 6 adults for all these meals. Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Sorry reality check. Sounds like you will be able to be with family for the holidays and your birthday, if you really don't want them I'm sure nobody is holding a gun to your head to have them over. Many would love to be able to see family for the holidays (this year especially or any year for that matter), it's a fantastic birthday present. Count your blessings and happy birthday.7 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
That's true, but our "legal days" are still strict, and have been for 2 months. What makes me mad is that we're paying for the people who aren't careful enough. There are crowds shopping, in outside bars, etc and are too close together. The great exodus North to South has started. People have to get tested before moving, because there will be check points on the freeways, train stations, and airports. Sigh.
I'm venting, because it means I'll be locked up cooking for everyone--Christmas Eve (fish), Christmas Day, St Stephen's (26th), New Years Eve, New Years Day, and Ephifany. All big holidays here (Italy) with lots of traditional food. I can't even go for a walk in the afternoons, or take a break in a coffee shop with a cappuccino. My son and wife and little kiddies (live across the landing) will be here since she can't be with her parents part of the time (they live outside Rome and the rules say everyone stays home). That means cooking for 6 adults for all these meals. Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Sorry reality check. Sounds like you will be able to be with family for the holidays and your birthday, if you really don't want them I'm sure nobody is holding a gun to your head to have them over. Many would love to be able to see family for the holidays (this year especially or any year for that matter), it's a fantastic birthday present. Count your blessings and happy birthday.
This is a good reminder. It sounds like you will have a hectic and stressful time with all the cooking and I don't diminish that, but perhaps it will help to focus on the fact that it's a blessing to have time with family in the current circumstances. This year I too won't see anyone between now and January, no family nor friends, for the first time ever. In fact, I have only seen my parents once this year and I miss them. Focussing on the good might help you enjoy it all through the hard work. Happy birthday!!10 -
@snowflake954
Happy birthday 🎂!
I hope your family in Minnesota are doing well🙏🏻. It has to be worrying for you. Know that things are improving here somewhat. Our governor is a good man, who truly has our safety and wellness at heart.
Hang in there. You’ve been a voice of reason through this all for many here, from the beginning. Many of us appreciate it so much!
It IS disheartening, to see others so lackadaisical, when most are following guidelines. It’s sad too.10 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Happy birthday! Sorry about all the cooking, the other adults should be pitching in with that.10 -
Snowflake - Happy Birthday! Can you ask your DIL to cook every other meal instead of making you do it all? Or just say that you will prepare one meal for the whole family, and for every other meal they are on their own?
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snowflake954 wrote: »Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Happy birthday at least!
Can you ask your DIL to pick up some of the cooking? Or other members of your family? You shouldn't need to be responsible for all of that and no one should expect you to be.
Went grocery shopping this morning. The only time I plan to leave the house the rest of the week is to drop off gifts. Even just shopping wore me out. Ordering pizza tonight for dinner which should last me a few days. Got a nice bone in ribeye for Yule since it is just me now.
Just feeling really lonely. I live alone with my 2 cats. I work from home. Holidays are already hard for me (all my grandparents and both my parents have passed away... I am not even 40 yet). Adding in the fact I am so closed off from any personal contact and my depression is just really bad right now. Right now my focus is to try and take care of myself and make it through the next week.
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snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
I'd be mad too...sounds like the Gestapo to me.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Happy birthday at least!
Can you ask your DIL to pick up some of the cooking? Or other members of your family? You shouldn't need to be responsible for all of that and no one should expect you to be.
Went grocery shopping this morning. The only time I plan to leave the house the rest of the week is to drop off gifts. Even just shopping wore me out. Ordering pizza tonight for dinner which should last me a few days. Got a nice bone in ribeye for Yule since it is just me now.
Just feeling really lonely. I live alone with my 2 cats. I work from home. Holidays are already hard for me (all my grandparents and both my parents have passed away... I am not even 40 yet). Adding in the fact I am so closed off from any personal contact and my depression is just really bad right now. Right now my focus is to try and take care of myself and make it through the next week.snowflake954 wrote: »Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
Happy birthday at least!
Can you ask your DIL to pick up some of the cooking? Or other members of your family? You shouldn't need to be responsible for all of that and no one should expect you to be.
Went grocery shopping this morning. The only time I plan to leave the house the rest of the week is to drop off gifts. Even just shopping wore me out. Ordering pizza tonight for dinner which should last me a few days. Got a nice bone in ribeye for Yule since it is just me now.
Just feeling really lonely. I live alone with my 2 cats. I work from home. Holidays are already hard for me (all my grandparents and both my parents have passed away... I am not even 40 yet). Adding in the fact I am so closed off from any personal contact and my depression is just really bad right now. Right now my focus is to try and take care of myself and make it through the next week.
If you’re in SE Minnesota or Western Wisconsin you’re invited. It’s just DD, DH & me. We can have two families over. Daughter is 36, so about your age.
I’m totally serious. No covid so far. Daughter has been working from home for 3 years. She’s lonely, and a little depressed. I worry so about my only chick.11 -
UK, rules have changed, London and the south east have a new level 4 because of the variant virus. Easing of restrictions there and elsewhere have been dropped too. There is probably more.................6
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The beginning of the end of the beginning...
My son and his girlfriend were both vaccinated yesterday at the hospital where they work. No problems so far.18 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
I'd be mad too...sounds like the Gestapo to me.
Lol with the disagrees...having to have "papers" doesn't sound familiar?5 -
UK, rules have changed, London and the south east have a new level 4 because of the variant virus. Easing of restrictions there and elsewhere have been dropped too. There is probably more.................
Yep, Christmas is officially cancelled here in Tier 4 UK. All the time and thought is currently sitting in boxes in my spare bedroom and will stay that way until further notice I guess. Posting gifts is going to be impossible I think! The Royal Mail simply can’t cope if everyone dumps parcels into the system on Monday morning! 🤯
I have an extra large Bronze Turkey on order which I’m reluctant to cancel because it’ll not be resold and will therefore go to waste while I buy other food...therefore I’ll pick it up and my husband will be eating Turkey in various forms for months! Meanwhile I’ll be portioning out the enormous and beautiful layered Nut and Vegetable Roast that I made and froze two days ago in preparation 🤷♀️ Portioned into calorie appropriate amounts it’ll do me for at least 36 meals! 😂
I’m devastated that I won’t see any of my children and see them open gifts 😢😢19 -
Snowflake - Happy Birthday 🎂1
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cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
I'd be mad too...sounds like the Gestapo to me.
Lol with the disagrees...having to have "papers" doesn't sound familiar?
While I'm not one of the disagrees, I can understand why someone might not agree with equating needing permission to be out in public during a spiking pandemic with Nazis.
Finding a balance in all this can be difficult. Some govts are standing back and relying on citizens to make smart choices and finding this leads to uncontrolled spread, as the irresponsible folks spread it to those being careful. I don't think it's surprising or foreboding that other govts might over-correct to avoid that, whether I think it's the right way to go or not.
Hopefully as vaccine access starts to spread, these decisions will start to become easier for everyone.
I need an ID card to get into all sorts of places, including sometimes having to identify myself to a police officer or govt official as allowed to be present or doing what I'm doing. Again, not saying I agree with a hard lockdown that requires a permission slip, but no it did not make me think of the Gestapo.20 -
Barbara Helen
I used to cook an entire turkey just for myself every Thanksgiving.
Sliced the breast for sandwiches. Chunked the breast that didn’t make nice slices for salads. Sliced the dark meat I could for turkey and dressing. Chunked the rest for soups. Enjoyed having have 1/2 done meals in the freezer all winter. Enjoy your husbands turkey, and your saving on cooking.8 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
I'd be mad too...sounds like the Gestapo to me.
Funny you should say that, because it was just what my sons and I are saying. Our Premier decided this all on his own, consulting with his "experts", not a discussion in Parliment. It was a bolt from the blue. We were discussing that it is the comportment of a dictator. He had been telling restaurants that Christmas would be "normal" and these businesses ordered lots of food for the holidays for the expected clients. They are going to lose their shirts. These people are already hurting. There are promises of money to compensate, but they're still waiting for March and April. He also didn't stop people from traveling for the holidays. And public transport is still overloaded and very dangerous.
Don't worry about your disagrees--you are absolutely right.10 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Barbara Helen
I used to cook an entire turkey just for myself every Thanksgiving.
Sliced the breast for sandwiches. Chunked the breast that didn’t make nice slices for salads. Sliced the dark meat I could for turkey and dressing. Chunked the rest for soups. Enjoyed having have 1/2 done meals in the freezer all winter. Enjoy your husbands turkey, and your saving on cooking.
Thank you for the ideas!
I know I can and will use it all up (can’t bear the guilt of food waste hence why I’ll still pick it up from the supermarket) it’s just soul destroying and every time I make a curry, casserole, stir fry etc with it, it’ll just remind me of the ‘lost’ Christmas. This was to be the first Christmas all 4 of the children had flown the nest and it’s just hard to come to terms with right now. 😢
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I agree with the 2 posts above. Happy Birthday, Snowflake! My birthday (71) next week & not planning to see any family for that or Christmas/New Years, even tho we are only 10 minutes away from daughter & her family. (Moved a few years ago to be closer) It is our turn to be with daughter in OK, but not going there either. I hope the vaccine comes soon & helps 2021 be better for all of us.7
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To all of you that wished me a Happy Birthday--thank you from my heart. I am stressing, but will power through--I always do. Everything will get done. My sons asked the other day "Aren't you making cookies this year?", so hey, yep, made some cookies, not nearly as many as I usually do. The cut-out cookies that need frosting are staring me in the face. Monday.
There is a discussion that the in-laws may come and stay in Rome with my DIL and so we may be doing Christmas together. She's an only child. Tomorrow I'll find out. The rules say you can have 2 guests, but have to open a window and have them eat in an adjoining room. Our rules are so complex and most are unenforceable. We are all very careful and it just bugs me to be punished with the real offenders. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas, and yes, I know I'm lucky to have all my children here. For those who don't--Hugs.14 -
missysippy930 wrote: »If you’re in SE Minnesota or Western Wisconsin you’re invited. It’s just DD, DH & me. We can have two families over. Daughter is 36, so about your age.
I’m totally serious. No covid so far. Daughter has been working from home for 3 years. She’s lonely, and a little depressed. I worry so about my only chick.
This means a lot to me. Sadly I am in central Indiana so I will not be able to take you up on your offer.
My family here HAS invited me for Christmas, but it would be 15 people in a small house. Many of who work outside of the home and lots of kids who I don't know how well they have been distancing. It's just not safe. I have no idea WHY they think it would be okay.18 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
Those date ranges seem a little counterproductive, I'd think that would mean everyone would mob the shops on Dec 28th and Jan 4th whether they needed to or not, just to get out of captivity. At the very least, people will be saving their errands for "legal" days.
That's true, but our "legal days" are still strict, and have been for 2 months. What makes me mad is that we're paying for the people who aren't careful enough. There are crowds shopping, in outside bars, etc and are too close together. The great exodus North to South has started. People have to get tested before moving, because there will be check points on the freeways, train stations, and airports. Sigh.
I'm venting, because it means I'll be locked up cooking for everyone--Christmas Eve (fish), Christmas Day, St Stephen's (26th), New Years Eve, New Years Day, and Ephifany. All big holidays here (Italy) with lots of traditional food. I can't even go for a walk in the afternoons, or take a break in a coffee shop with a cappuccino. My son and wife and little kiddies (live across the landing) will be here since she can't be with her parents part of the time (they live outside Rome and the rules say everyone stays home). That means cooking for 6 adults for all these meals. Tomorrow is also my birthday. I'll be 66, great birthday present.
I feel for you. I totally understand because even when I was crippled I still had to make Christmas lunch for everyone. I couldn't walk! It's our choice to say a big NO though if we want to. Get the sons wife to cook maybe or help out or the men? I don't mostly because I know I cook better than them so deal with it all. You are maybe the same. We know you are a good cook. One day I'll say no. lol. Happy birthday. Do spoil yourself somehow, even just a nice long bath and a glass of nice wine.4 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Italy here. We just had an announcement (last minute) by the government. We're in Lockdown for Christmas-Dec 24th to 27th, then again Dec 29th to Jan 3rd, then again Jan 5th to 7th. All stores, coffee bars, and restaurants are to be closed (we already have had gyms, museums, theaters, sports, etc all closed for 2 months). If you leave your residence you need a permission form downloaded on internet stating your destination and reason. The police will stop and fine anyone noncompliant. No driving anywhere. So, we're trapped in our homes. I've been behind most of the COVID measures in the past, but this time I'm just mad.
I'd be mad too...sounds like the Gestapo to me.
Lol with the disagrees...having to have "papers" doesn't sound familiar?
While I'm not one of the disagrees, I can understand why someone might not agree with equating needing permission to be out in public during a spiking pandemic with Nazis.
Finding a balance in all this can be difficult. Some govts are standing back and relying on citizens to make smart choices and finding this leads to uncontrolled spread, as the irresponsible folks spread it to those being careful. I don't think it's surprising or foreboding that other govts might over-correct to avoid that, whether I think it's the right way to go or not.
Hopefully as vaccine access starts to spread, these decisions will start to become easier for everyone.
I need an ID card to get into all sorts of places, including sometimes having to identify myself to a police officer or govt official as allowed to be present or doing what I'm doing. Again, not saying I agree with a hard lockdown that requires a permission slip, but no it did not make me think of the Gestapo.
I'm of Jewish/German decent and my great grandfather left Germany knowing what was coming just before WWII...I don't take having to have "papers" lightly. Anyone and everyone can shove their "papers" up their *kitten*.10
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