Coronavirus prep
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .
A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?
Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?
I ask because Michigan, like PA, is a quite-diverse state, with dense urban areas (especially greater Detroit, hit hard and early) but also remote sparsely-populated rural areas (spared early on, now having some sad experiences of their own). There have been distinctly different attitudes and behavior trends, with different consequences at different times, in different parts of the state. Roll it up to the state level, and some insight is lost.
(I'm not suggesting the urban areas now have low rates: It's more complicated than that, because people do mix across the geographic boundaries. But the impact of who's coming from "outside" has different impacts at different times. Here, the outlying areas initially had very low rates, which tended to breed rebellious attitudes toward restrictions. Now, with a culture of denial/rebellion more wired in there, those places have enough local community spread to be in deep weeds, generating lots of cases, overwhelming the small hospitals; and I'll bet selected community members still come visit The Big City for shopping and such. I suspect rural to urban and back is the more statistically common pattern of travel, especially as we've gotten into the holiday season.)2 -
Hopefully we are getting on top of the hotspots in NSW..
22 Dec 8 new cases.. 44 466 tested
23 Dec 8 new cases.. 41 865
So glad to see so many getting tested..
In comparison on the 18th Dec 7531 tested.
If we all pull together it can be turned around. Victoria did it.. and we will too.
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In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.5 -
Just wanted to put out there that This Week in Virology said this British mutation is NOT a new strain, just a normal mutation. And there is no evidence that it is more virulent or infectious. It is just as likely that it's a coincidence that it popped up at the same time that people's behaviors led to spikes, or that one person who got the new mutation early proceeded to go to a crowded bar or an indoor crowded church service, and boom it looks like it's the mutation's fault. They suspect a journalist asked a scientist "could this mutation make covid more transmissible?" And the scientist said "Yeah sure, it 'could'." And it was then reported as a sure thing.15
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South Dakota is the second lowest state for testing and the second highest for positivity rates (all per capita).
Personally, I'm feeling very Grinch-ish thanks to the blizzard howling outside. I would have been fine without a white Christmas.12 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.
Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.
Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.
I assume it is like everything else... depends on your insurance.2 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .
A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?
Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?
We do get county level information, which I follow more than the state levels. Where I live is a small town surrounded by farms and orchards. The main business in the area seems to be the warehouses along the interstate and a big Army Depot. The counties on either side of us have had much lower numbers than we get, but we are on the interstate, so that may be driving some of the cases. We went from about 7 cases a day to 130 a day in the past month or so and our deaths have doubled in the past two months. It isn't the nursing homes this time. They went from 60% of the deaths to about 30%. It is a mostly conservative area, so there is a lot of rebellion about the restrictions, so it may just be that the people here are going about their lives as usual and ignoring restrictions on having parties and group events.4 -
I looked at the TN plan and I'm in phase 2 (which is actually the 4th phase) of vaccines because I have 1 co-morbidity (diabetes). If I had 2 comorbidities, I would be in phase 1c. If I'm obese, I get it sooner... so maybe I need to gain some weight fast. I know I could become obese in less than a week with my appetite, but I would have to stop carnivore. BG's will suffer terribly and I'll feel awful, so I am not sure it is worthwhile.7
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Attention Australians - this video on the Coronavirus Meme thread is a Must Watch:
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I looked at the TN plan and I'm in phase 2 (which is actually the 4th phase) of vaccines because I have 1 co-morbidity (diabetes). If I had 2 comorbidities, I would be in phase 1c. If I'm obese, I get it sooner... so maybe I need to gain some weight fast. I know I could become obese in less than a week with my appetite, but I would have to stop carnivore. BG's will suffer terribly and I'll feel awful, so I am not sure it is worthwhile.
Where did you find the TN info? I have at least one comorbidity (diabetes) but don’t know if lupus counts.0 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/
I miss my parents too. I moved states decades to help husbands career. I was very close to my mum especially. When I left I rang her every day. People get over it. We can still ring or Skype etc now. You do NOT need to be with them and make the pandemic worse this Christmas. I read people saying " oh I haven't seen them for a year". Well gosh be an adult, we don't get all we want all the time. Maybe next year if enough people get the vax you can do what you like. I haven't seen mine in a few years but we talk.
I will say something that is hard to say to the person on here that has a child now with Covid and potentially infecting the whole family. You knew how it is in USA with COVID and shopping or doing stuff is more important than you or your family being healthy or alive? Christmas is more important? I don't understand it. I am very sad for you all and totally wish you all well. Why not buy stuff online or nothing at all if it's too busy? Life is more important than Christmas.
You have a right to your assumptions, but they are just that. Assumptions. I didn’t say what we were out and about for, just said that many others were as well due to it being the week before Christmas. We had necessary errands to run, and the kids stayed in the car with one parent or the other for all but one or two. We did get take out, could he have gotten it from that? Who knows.
Likely we will never know when or where he got it... my husband, who is also very cautious with strict procedures in place, could have somehow brought it home from work. It happened, it sucks, we will deal with it as best we can as safely as we can. Just because we have it doesn’t mean we contracted it doing something thoughtless or unnecessary.
FYI - we exchanged gifts Dec. 6th, St. Nicholas Day.
I am not going to write out a full defense, it’s not worth all that...22 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »Hopefully we are getting on top of the hotspots in NSW..
22 Dec 8 new cases.. 44 466 tested
23 Dec 8 new cases.. 41 865
So glad to see so many getting tested..
In comparison on the 18th Dec 7531 tested.
If we all pull together it can be turned around. Victoria did it.. and we will too.
I have faith in my Aussie neighbours on this We Antipodeans know what we need to do.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/
I miss my parents too. I moved states decades to help husbands career. I was very close to my mum especially. When I left I rang her every day. People get over it. We can still ring or Skype etc now. You do NOT need to be with them and make the pandemic worse this Christmas. I read people saying " oh I haven't seen them for a year". Well gosh be an adult, we don't get all we want all the time. Maybe next year if enough people get the vax you can do what you like. I haven't seen mine in a few years but we talk.
I will say something that is hard to say to the person on here that has a child now with Covid and potentially infecting the whole family. You knew how it is in USA with COVID and shopping or doing stuff is more important than you or your family being healthy or alive? Christmas is more important? I don't understand it. I am very sad for you all and totally wish you all well. Why not buy stuff online or nothing at all if it's too busy? Life is more important than Christmas.
That is really a very harsh and judgemental thing to say! Some of us don’t have the extra income to be able to afford the extra fees for having everything delivered, for one thing. And what about the delivery employees, first responders and such whose jobs take them out into the public? Are they to be blamed if they contract Covid?! Are we really going down the path of blaming people for contracting a disease?
And some of us have parents that are older and need a lot of help! Does that make us irresponsible for going to help them? The only other alternative is to surrender my dad into a nursing home, where he would quickly die, terrified and alone, and possibly abused. Anyone who has spent a lot of time in a nursing knows that abuse and neglect runs rampant even in the best of facilities. You are very lucky that your parents aren’t suffering from horrible degenerative diseases. Many others aren’t so lucky. You have no possible way to know what people need and don’t need, and it’s very arrogant to assume you do.23 -
Last spring, My friend almost certainly caught Corona at work. A woman(higher up) came in from corporate out of state and toured the facility. When several came down with Corona and they were trying to track down where it came from, she told them she took a
Corona test 2 days before her trip, but felt better and didn’t know when she’d get her results back, so came on.
Think how many people she may have infected. I don’t know if she flew, but stayed in motel, went out for meals, etc.
I certainly don’t blame my friend for Going to work every day. Up until then, they were all trying to be careful. N-95 masks, hand sanitizer provided by work. Deep cleaning every night. As soon as it happened, her employer enacted work from home, and it’s still in place. Their building is open, so if employees feel a need to, they can go in at their own risk any time. If they
Need to talk to HR or anyone else in person(sign paperwork, etc) they need to make an appointment.
Another friend. This will be his dads last Christmas, (maybe a couple of months) and will probably be his sisters last Christmas. I won’t blame him if he goes home for Christmas. He and his dad have always been very close.
As for buying online or not at all. No, I won’t quit buying groceries.13 -
gracegettingittogether wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/
I miss my parents too. I moved states decades to help husbands career. I was very close to my mum especially. When I left I rang her every day. People get over it. We can still ring or Skype etc now. You do NOT need to be with them and make the pandemic worse this Christmas. I read people saying " oh I haven't seen them for a year". Well gosh be an adult, we don't get all we want all the time. Maybe next year if enough people get the vax you can do what you like. I haven't seen mine in a few years but we talk.
I will say something that is hard to say to the person on here that has a child now with Covid and potentially infecting the whole family. You knew how it is in USA with COVID and shopping or doing stuff is more important than you or your family being healthy or alive? Christmas is more important? I don't understand it. I am very sad for you all and totally wish you all well. Why not buy stuff online or nothing at all if it's too busy? Life is more important than Christmas.
That is really a very harsh and judgemental thing to say! Some of us don’t have the extra income to be able to afford the extra fees for having everything delivered, for one thing. And what about the delivery employees, first responders and such whose jobs take them out into the public? Are they to be blamed if they contract Covid?! Are we really going down the path of blaming people for contracting a disease?
And some of us have parents that are older and need a lot of help! Does that make us irresponsible for going to help them? The only other alternative is to surrender my dad into a nursing home, where he would quickly die, terrified and alone, and possibly abused. Anyone who has spent a lot of time in a nursing knows that abuse and neglect runs rampant even in the best of facilities. You are very lucky that your parents aren’t suffering from horrible degenerative diseases. Many others aren’t so lucky. You have no possible way to know what people need and don’t need, and it’s very arrogant to assume you do.
I completely agree. I have a niece who's coming from Maine to be with her parents in Vt. Technically she should not be going anywhere but it will definitely be her dad's last Christmas, quite possibly his last week or month. I get mad when I hear about or see large gatherings but in a case such as my niece......I'd probably do the exact same thing and everyone else be DAmnEd.
None of us should assume we know what others are doing or going through, why they're doing what they're doing. And I don't believe it's the random couple of people here or there that are the problem.11 -
rheddmobile wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I looked at the TN plan and I'm in phase 2 (which is actually the 4th phase) of vaccines because I have 1 co-morbidity (diabetes). If I had 2 comorbidities, I would be in phase 1c. If I'm obese, I get it sooner... so maybe I need to gain some weight fast. I know I could become obese in less than a week with my appetite, but I would have to stop carnivore. BG's will suffer terribly and I'll feel awful, so I am not sure it is worthwhile.
Where did you find the TN info? I have at least one comorbidity (diabetes) but don’t know if lupus counts.
@rheddmobile https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/COVID-19_Vaccination_Plan.pdf
And reading again, I guess what I meant was 1b instead of 1c. It's strange... instead of 1, 2, 3, 4; they use 1a1, 1a2, 1b, 2, 3.0 -
gracegettingittogether wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/
I miss my parents too. I moved states decades to help husbands career. I was very close to my mum especially. When I left I rang her every day. People get over it. We can still ring or Skype etc now. You do NOT need to be with them and make the pandemic worse this Christmas. I read people saying " oh I haven't seen them for a year". Well gosh be an adult, we don't get all we want all the time. Maybe next year if enough people get the vax you can do what you like. I haven't seen mine in a few years but we talk.
I will say something that is hard to say to the person on here that has a child now with Covid and potentially infecting the whole family. You knew how it is in USA with COVID and shopping or doing stuff is more important than you or your family being healthy or alive? Christmas is more important? I don't understand it. I am very sad for you all and totally wish you all well. Why not buy stuff online or nothing at all if it's too busy? Life is more important than Christmas.
That is really a very harsh and judgemental thing to say! Some of us don’t have the extra income to be able to afford the extra fees for having everything delivered, for one thing. And what about the delivery employees, first responders and such whose jobs take them out into the public? Are they to be blamed if they contract Covid?! Are we really going down the path of blaming people for contracting a disease?
And some of us have parents that are older and need a lot of help! Does that make us irresponsible for going to help them? The only other alternative is to surrender my dad into a nursing home, where he would quickly die, terrified and alone, and possibly abused. Anyone who has spent a lot of time in a nursing knows that abuse and neglect runs rampant even in the best of facilities. You are very lucky that your parents aren’t suffering from horrible degenerative diseases. Many others aren’t so lucky. You have no possible way to know what people need and don’t need, and it’s very arrogant to assume you do.
And it's rude how you judge my life. You don't know how my parents are doing so go have a coffee. I have elderly parents too. Don't judge me or or my family either. Thank you. By the way you are not a nice person so goodbye and don't talk to me again. You know zero about my life. The only thing out of what you said was the delivery fee costing them more. There is ZERO contact so the guys delivering stuff are safe. They just leave it at the door. Well if I was there I'd be paying it rather than paying with my life or being in hospital. Pick one.. presents or groceries Covid free at you door or go out with a zillion others to make your family catch it . Which do you prefer?6 -
All the disagree people.. do you want to go catch it too just because it's Christmas? Otherwise say why you disagree thank you.2
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Ok I will - I disagree because your post was harsh and judgmental about somebody else and the sort of complex decisions and dilemmas other people face.
was not neccesary or kind to say to somebody who has a family member with Covid.
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