Coronavirus prep
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missysippy930 wrote: »
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.
We have the new COVID here in Rome. A woman on a flight from England who was tested before leaving (negative result) has it. She and her SO are isolated. Everyone on the plane was tested (a few days have passed) and there are a few with the new mutant which I believe will be called "Spike" by the media. It is 60% more contagious than the COVID that we've got now. Ha! Merry Christmas! ---that's sarcastic.18 -
missysippy930 wrote: »
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.
Well, yep, come to think of it prolly went to UK from the US anyhow so why worry about it? 🤷🏼♀️😆 just kidding.2 -
missysippy930 wrote: »
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.
Well, yep, come to think of it prolly went to UK from the US anyhow so why worry about it? 🤷🏼♀️😆 just kidding.
I'd bet a paycheck the new variant is already in the US. We've been so far behind in this from the beginning...
Waaaaay back in this thread, I mentioned that I was in disbelief that people couldn't give up one year of holidays and boy did I get flack for that. I'm glad to see that either those people left the thread, or that the tone has changed. I too, have a big family. I haven't hugged my aging parents since March. But it won't be me who lets this virus into their lives (or their entire retirement community).
I feel awful for those who are alone. For those who were expecting to finally have kids and grandkids all together this year. For people who find this a difficult time of year without Covid. Some of your situations on this thread literally bring tears to my eyes. But in the US, we just haven't done what it takes yet. Unless and until we do, we won't get it under control. Our individualist mentality won't beat this.
Hugs to everyone who is disappointed, stressed, struggling, downright sad or mad... I think we're all ready for a big, long hug.24 -
missysippy930 wrote: »
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.
Well, yep, come to think of it prolly went to UK from the US anyhow so why worry about it? 🤷🏼♀️😆 just kidding.
I kind of was thinking that myself, I’m not kidding, and I am worried.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Having just made a 32 hour road trip this weekend to Brandywine, MD (DC area) by way of Nashville TN through Virginia to pick up a 2015 Nissan Leaf EV to use as a parts car to rebuild our 2016 Leaf SL that got totaled last month due to an 18 year old guy running a red light we saw first hand how coronavirus prep seriousness varies.
To lower our exposure risk we skipped the hotel idea and just got 2 hours of sleep in the truck since the yard did not open to 8 AM then got back on the way to KY. Northern Virigina, DC and Maryland had a lot mask wearers. In TN walking into a Minute Mart wearing a mask could lead to seeing the clerk reaching for the sky and seeing fear on their face. The Covid-19 prep memo DID NOT make it TN!
Just curious, did you get stopped at any border or during your travels? Glad you made it safely and WTH is up with not wearing masks in TN? Don't people realize it takes a unified effort?
Hindering interstate commerce is a no no in the USA in a legal sense so we traveled on interstates and saw no boarder policing. States are again issuing speeding tickets even in TN it seems.
We had our company Christmas party this morning and one from FL said masks were not in vogue in FL either. In TN I was told many think you can not die before your time to die so covid is not a factor that matters to one's longevity.
I am NOT joking about my last point. I live 3 miles from TN but having an earned OD degree from TN I know this mindset is false but as a child was taught I was under divine protection from all harm. Harmful belief systems seems to have grown in this Pandemic.9 -
The new variant is also known to have been found in Australia, Denmark and the Netherlands and it was first discovered in September, so unfortunately it's likely it's already in many countries.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Having just made a 32 hour road trip this weekend to Brandywine, MD (DC area) by way of Nashville TN through Virginia to pick up a 2015 Nissan Leaf EV to use as a parts car to rebuild our 2016 Leaf SL that got totaled last month due to an 18 year old guy running a red light we saw first hand how coronavirus prep seriousness varies.
To lower our exposure risk we skipped the hotel idea and just got 2 hours of sleep in the truck since the yard did not open to 8 AM then got back on the way to KY. Northern Virigina, DC and Maryland had a lot mask wearers. In TN walking into a Minute Mart wearing a mask could lead to seeing the clerk reaching for the sky and seeing fear on their face. The Covid-19 prep memo DID NOT make it TN!
Yep, people here in TN don't wear masks.6 -
Redordeadhead wrote: »The new variant is also known to have been found in Australia, Denmark and the Netherlands and it was first discovered in September, so unfortunately it's likely it's already in many countries.
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Yes--you are correct. Let's just say that it's presence is now "official" in several areas. More to come.......1 -
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Without getting too political, I think it probably has more to do with the fact that we are in a transitional period leadership wise. The outgoing President is in what is often referred to as the "lame duck" period and the incoming President doesn't take office until January 20...so while he is the President Elect, he doesn't have any actual power yet.
Basically, not much of anything is happening or getting done right now, which is most often the case when you have a transition of power in the US.15 -
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
I see others have already covered the Dr. Fauci, September, and lame duck administration aspects of the answer to this question so I will add something new. I couldn't find how many flights from the UK land in New York, but I imagine it is a high percentage. Here's what the Governor of NY is doing (although as Snowflake said, you can get on a plane with a negative test yet still be positive.)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/12/21/new-covid-strain-us-health-officials-say-no-need-uk-flight-ban/3993897001/
..."That variant is getting on a plane and landing in JFK, and all it takes is one person," New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a statement Sunday. He called on the Trump administration to ban flights from the U.K. or, failing that, for airlines to test passengers before they fly from the U.K. to New York.
Cuomo said Monday that British Airways had agreed to require passengers on flights from the U.K. to New York to produce a negative coronavirus test before departure. In a tweet, he said New York was working with two other air carriers, Delta and Virgin Atlantic, to do the same.4 -
Delta has agreed as of this morning according to our governor.6
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?
Without getting too political, I think it probably has more to do with the fact that we are in a transitional period leadership wise. The outgoing President is in what is often referred to as the "lame duck" period and the incoming President doesn't take office until January 20...so while he is the President Elect, he doesn't have any actual power yet.
Basically, not much of anything is happening or getting done right now, which is most often the case when you have a transition of power in the US.
LOL. Not much was getting done BEFORE the transition period. Just sayin'...24 -
We live at the intersection of 3 states, and an easy drive to a 4th - it is CRAZY the differences from state to state, even in the relatively same area!4
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COVID has officially hit our house. My oldest started a sore throat yesterday, very slight change in temp. Really, very few symptoms pointing to COVID. I took him to Urgent Care for the swollen, sore throat assuming strep. They swabbed him for strep, flu and COVID. When the lady came back in in full garb asking more questions about being around anyone sick I think I stopped breathing. Positive for both strep and COVID. Crap. The only cough he has is minimal and I thought it was because of the swollen uvula - more of a clearing of the throat. No issues with taste/smell, stomach, headache, or body aches... only a hint of a fever (hit 100 once, mainly hovering at or just below 99). Taking my daughter in in the morning for a strep test. They said no one else in the house needs to be tested for COVID, sounds like WV assumes symptoms that crop up soon after are COVID, unlike my friends experience in NC (her quarantine started after her husband’s was done, even though she got sick very soon after with very tell tale symptoms... since she didn’t get tested, they said they couldn’t know for sure so it was 2 more weeks for her). They also recently changed to a 10 day quarantine instead of 14. Hubby was already on vacation for the next 10 days - guess we’ll get to just hang out! Have some household thing to work on, and I have some important/special quilts that I need to finish. He left work a couple hours early today - I texted him to pack up as soon as she told me.
No idea when or how he got it. We were out more this weekend than we usually are, as we’re many others since it was the weekend before Christmas.22 -
Merry Christmas.
Twas 3 weeks before Christmas,
And all through the town,
People wore masks,
That covered their frown.
The frown had begun
Way back in the Spring,
When a global pandemic
Changed every darn thing.
They called it corona,
But unlike the beer,
It didn’t bring good times,
It didn’t bring cheer.
Airplanes were grounded,
Travel was banned.
Borders were closed Across air,
sea and land.
As the world entered lockdown
To flatten the curve,
The economy halted,
And folks lost their nerve.
From March to July
We rode the first wave,
People stayed home,
They tried to behave.
When summer emerged
The lockdown was lifted.
But away from caution,
Many folks drifted.
Now it’s November
And cases are spiking,
A new wave has arrived,
Much to our disliking.
It’s true that this year
Has had sadness a plenty,
We’ll never forget
This damned 2020.
And just ‘round the corner –
The holiday season,
But why be merry?
Is there even one reason?
To decorate the house
And put up the tree,
Who will see it,
No one but me.
But outside our window
The snow gently falls,
And we think to ourselves,
Let’s still deck the halls! So,
we gather the ribbon,
The garland and bows,
As we play those old carols,
Our happiness grows.
Christmas is not cancelled
And neither is hope.
If we lean on each other,
Of course, we can cope34 -
We really are all in this together.
After months without any cases, Antarctica, now has dozens of cases of Covid-19.9 -
No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/6 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »No surprise Tennessee is #1...
10 Riskiest States to Visit over Christmas:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/12/18/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-over-christmas-ranked/
I miss my parents too. I moved states decades to help husbands career. I was very close to my mum especially. When I left I rang her every day. People get over it. We can still ring or Skype etc now. You do NOT need to be with them and make the pandemic worse this Christmas. I read people saying " oh I haven't seen them for a year". Well gosh be an adult, we don't get all we want all the time. Maybe next year if enough people get the vax you can do what you like. I haven't seen mine in a few years but we talk.
I will say something that is hard to say to the person on here that has a child now with Covid and potentially infecting the whole family. You knew how it is in USA with COVID and shopping or doing stuff is more important than you or your family being healthy or alive? Christmas is more important? I don't understand it. I am very sad for you all and totally wish you all well. Why not buy stuff online or nothing at all if it's too busy? Life is more important than Christmas.17 -
It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .
A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?4 -
AZ should not be that high. Just a governor that refuses to follow common sense and set an example. In every one of his meetings, he doesn't wear a mask. Everyone around him does. Sickening and just arrogance.
I still feel relatively safe because we are vigilant. I won't eat inside a restaurant and certainly won't go to a gym. 5% of the people in my county currently have it. 100,000 residents with 5K cases.9 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .
A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?
Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?
I ask because Michigan, like PA, is a quite-diverse state, with dense urban areas (especially greater Detroit, hit hard and early) but also remote sparsely-populated rural areas (spared early on, now having some sad experiences of their own). There have been distinctly different attitudes and behavior trends, with different consequences at different times, in different parts of the state. Roll it up to the state level, and some insight is lost.
(I'm not suggesting the urban areas now have low rates: It's more complicated than that, because people do mix across the geographic boundaries. But the impact of who's coming from "outside" has different impacts at different times. Here, the outlying areas initially had very low rates, which tended to breed rebellious attitudes toward restrictions. Now, with a culture of denial/rebellion more wired in there, those places have enough local community spread to be in deep weeds, generating lots of cases, overwhelming the small hospitals; and I'll bet selected community members still come visit The Big City for shopping and such. I suspect rural to urban and back is the more statistically common pattern of travel, especially as we've gotten into the holiday season.)2 -
Hopefully we are getting on top of the hotspots in NSW..
22 Dec 8 new cases.. 44 466 tested
23 Dec 8 new cases.. 41 865
So glad to see so many getting tested..
In comparison on the 18th Dec 7531 tested.
If we all pull together it can be turned around. Victoria did it.. and we will too.
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In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.5 -
Just wanted to put out there that This Week in Virology said this British mutation is NOT a new strain, just a normal mutation. And there is no evidence that it is more virulent or infectious. It is just as likely that it's a coincidence that it popped up at the same time that people's behaviors led to spikes, or that one person who got the new mutation early proceeded to go to a crowded bar or an indoor crowded church service, and boom it looks like it's the mutation's fault. They suspect a journalist asked a scientist "could this mutation make covid more transmissible?" And the scientist said "Yeah sure, it 'could'." And it was then reported as a sure thing.15
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South Dakota is the second lowest state for testing and the second highest for positivity rates (all per capita).
Personally, I'm feeling very Grinch-ish thanks to the blizzard howling outside. I would have been fine without a white Christmas.12 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.
Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.
Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0
We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.
Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.
I assume it is like everything else... depends on your insurance.2 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .
A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?
Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?
We do get county level information, which I follow more than the state levels. Where I live is a small town surrounded by farms and orchards. The main business in the area seems to be the warehouses along the interstate and a big Army Depot. The counties on either side of us have had much lower numbers than we get, but we are on the interstate, so that may be driving some of the cases. We went from about 7 cases a day to 130 a day in the past month or so and our deaths have doubled in the past two months. It isn't the nursing homes this time. They went from 60% of the deaths to about 30%. It is a mostly conservative area, so there is a lot of rebellion about the restrictions, so it may just be that the people here are going about their lives as usual and ignoring restrictions on having parties and group events.4 -
I looked at the TN plan and I'm in phase 2 (which is actually the 4th phase) of vaccines because I have 1 co-morbidity (diabetes). If I had 2 comorbidities, I would be in phase 1c. If I'm obese, I get it sooner... so maybe I need to gain some weight fast. I know I could become obese in less than a week with my appetite, but I would have to stop carnivore. BG's will suffer terribly and I'll feel awful, so I am not sure it is worthwhile.7
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Attention Australians - this video on the Coronavirus Meme thread is a Must Watch:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/45590200/#Comment_455902002
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