Coronavirus prep

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  • ElioraFR
    ElioraFR Posts: 91 Member
    ElioraFR wrote: »

    I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?

    Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.

    Well, yep, come to think of it prolly went to UK from the US anyhow so why worry about it? 🤷🏼‍♀️😆 just kidding.
  • missysippy930
    missysippy930 Posts: 2,577 Member
    ElioraFR wrote: »
    ElioraFR wrote: »

    I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?

    Dr. Fauci was interviewed last night on, The News Hour, on PBS. This question came up. He said the vaccine will respond to the mutated forms of the virus. He said that it’s possible, that the mutated form in the UK may already be here, and that they will be checking the tests to see whether it is here already.

    Well, yep, come to think of it prolly went to UK from the US anyhow so why worry about it? 🤷🏼‍♀️😆 just kidding.

    I kind of was thinking that myself, I’m not kidding, and I am worried.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    The new variant is also known to have been found in Australia, Denmark and the Netherlands and it was first discovered in September, so unfortunately it's likely it's already in many countries.

    Edited for typo

    Yes--you are correct. Let's just say that it's presence is now "official" in several areas. More to come.......
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited December 2020
    ElioraFR wrote: »
    I too can’t understand why the US would not block all incoming flights from the UK immediately. Would it ruin a political relationship or something? If eu countries are doing so to slow down Cov19 what can be the problem with the US doing so?

    I see others have already covered the Dr. Fauci, September, and lame duck administration aspects of the answer to this question so I will add something new. I couldn't find how many flights from the UK land in New York, but I imagine it is a high percentage. Here's what the Governor of NY is doing (although as Snowflake said, you can get on a plane with a negative test yet still be positive.)

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/12/21/new-covid-strain-us-health-officials-say-no-need-uk-flight-ban/3993897001/

    ..."That variant is getting on a plane and landing in JFK, and all it takes is one person," New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a statement Sunday. He called on the Trump administration to ban flights from the U.K. or, failing that, for airlines to test passengers before they fly from the U.K. to New York.

    Cuomo said Monday that British Airways had agreed to require passengers on flights from the U.K. to New York to produce a negative coronavirus test before departure. In a tweet, he said New York was working with two other air carriers, Delta and Virgin Atlantic, to do the same.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
    We live at the intersection of 3 states, and an easy drive to a 4th - it is CRAZY the differences from state to state, even in the relatively same area!
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,748 Member
    It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .

    A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,600 Member
    It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .

    A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?

    Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?

    I ask because Michigan, like PA, is a quite-diverse state, with dense urban areas (especially greater Detroit, hit hard and early) but also remote sparsely-populated rural areas (spared early on, now having some sad experiences of their own). There have been distinctly different attitudes and behavior trends, with different consequences at different times, in different parts of the state. Roll it up to the state level, and some insight is lost.

    (I'm not suggesting the urban areas now have low rates: It's more complicated than that, because people do mix across the geographic boundaries. But the impact of who's coming from "outside" has different impacts at different times. Here, the outlying areas initially had very low rates, which tended to breed rebellious attitudes toward restrictions. Now, with a culture of denial/rebellion more wired in there, those places have enough local community spread to be in deep weeds, generating lots of cases, overwhelming the small hospitals; and I'll bet selected community members still come visit The Big City for shopping and such. I suspect rural to urban and back is the more statistically common pattern of travel, especially as we've gotten into the holiday season.)
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.

    Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0

    We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.

    Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    In other news, monoclonal antibodies are available and not being used... frustrating that some people are dying needlessly.

    Why Covid Antibody Drugs Go Unused as Need Soars https://nyti.ms/3nWV5Q0

    We got a newsletter at my workplace about being careful with travel and what to do if we have symptoms or close contact with a confirmed case. Also, it mentioned that 26% of our location has had it. That is more than 1 in 4. It didn't say if there were any deaths among those.

    Communication in general has just been awful smh. One thing the article didn't answer for me was if it would be expensive for me personally and how do I tell? I know the monoclonal antibody treatments are very expensive to produce, but not if that means I would get a huge bill if I demanded it at the onset of symptoms.

    I assume it is like everything else... depends on your insurance.
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,748 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    It's odd that PA has numbers that are so high. We've had a mask mandate almost since the beginning. There was a total shut down for months. Indoor dining in restaurants is closed as are gyms. Schools are mostly virtual. And yet . . .

    A lot of people do resist the restrictions. Masks are worn badly, and some don't wear them at all. It seems that the tighter the restrictions, the more people rebel. Still, the number of infections is ridiculously high. The news never explains what is happening. In the beginning it was the warehouse jobs and food processing plants. Now, who knows?

    Does PA have state-level data by county? If so, does that provide any insight?

    We do get county level information, which I follow more than the state levels. Where I live is a small town surrounded by farms and orchards. The main business in the area seems to be the warehouses along the interstate and a big Army Depot. The counties on either side of us have had much lower numbers than we get, but we are on the interstate, so that may be driving some of the cases. We went from about 7 cases a day to 130 a day in the past month or so and our deaths have doubled in the past two months. It isn't the nursing homes this time. They went from 60% of the deaths to about 30%. It is a mostly conservative area, so there is a lot of rebellion about the restrictions, so it may just be that the people here are going about their lives as usual and ignoring restrictions on having parties and group events.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Attention Australians - this video on the Coronavirus Meme thread is a Must Watch:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/45590200/#Comment_45590200