At Goal & Successfully Maintaining. So Why Am I Doing This All Over Again?
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springlering62 wrote: »He doesn’t read the boards. That’s the one thing he balks at.
for now.... lol
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Dinner tonight (and every Sunday night) is steak, baked potatoes, and a nice side salad.
It’s one of our lowest calorie meals of the week. That always surprised me, and now it surprises BL, too. He will happily meat and potato all week long and looks forward to Sundays.
Lots of lovely macros.
What meals have surprised you?5 -
I was surprised by risotto, the portion I can eat for 600-700 calories is huge and very filling. Beetroot risotto with fresh goats cheese, mushroom risotto and risotto with prawns and fennel are my favorites.
PS: Obviously, don't smother the risotto in Parmesan or butter 😉4 -
Potatoes in general surprise me. I always expect them to be higher calorie than they are. I don't know why I think they're going to be ridiculous? But I always do.
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Ever since our three kids were young we've done pizza on Friday nights. Back in the day we'd eat them while watching Boys Meets World, etc LOL They were usually homemade but sometimes we'd order delivery. Fast forward to 2021.....the kids are all grown and have left home, and we're both retired. But we STILL do Friday night pizza (with a couple of glasses of wine). We have busy weeks with various volunteer committments so we toast each other with a "Happy Friday!" clink and look forward to a more relaxed weekend while watching something on Netflix or Britbox. I make the crust for hubby's pizza and he chooses his own toppings. I use a wrap for my crust and have always opted for veggies and a handful of grated cheese. It comes in at 450 calories so leaves me lots of room for wine 🍷😉
I've managed loose 90 pounds. Borrowing someone else's term, "I took my foot off the gas" and let about 15 pounds creep back over the past 4 years but I got back on track in January and got that sorted. My "Friday Night Pizza" (as it's saved in my meals) has been something I've looked forward to since I started this journey back in 2013 and brings me much pleasure, for relatively few calories.16 -
springlering62 wrote: »I think….and I have to give this more time to confirm…..I’m falling into a habit of eating less around him so I don’t tempt him (I get hundreds of more calories than he does because I’m always in motion, while he’s pretty sedentary.)
This definitely happened for me during the SO's first attempt at weight loss as well as this low-carb thing. One, his snacking was out-of-control excessive (he would polish off the largest size of M&Ms in half an hour) so I was trying to model more reasonable behaviour. Plus I felt bad that he had to reduce or eliminate so many foods that he loved and didn't want to rub it in his face. Of course, since he's away at work half the time, I can do whatever I please when he's not around but I did switch my snacking to my work hours where it wasn't visible to him and hid the treats at home where they wouldn't tempt him. I sure don't need any reduction in calories so I have to make sure I maintain a steady supply at my desk.3 -
i dont really do potatoes. once in a blue moon ill do a sweet potato. we do steak all the time. (hubby and son have potato with their steak lol)
im not a rice person, either.
dont get me wrong, i love carbs, just not those particular items. they're not my 'thing'. for the calories, there are other things id rather have. now, if calories weren't an issue, I'd be all in for a loaded baked potato LMAO. But its all the 'stuff' on it I really want. the potato is just the 'vessel' to get it in my mouth LOLOL
what is not as high in calories as i expected? ....
a lot of fast food burgers arent as high in calories as some might think (a whopper junior, which is about all i can eat anyway, is around 350 calories- obviously larger burgers are higher, but still, a quick look tells me a whopper is 630 calories which isnt that much more than the hamburgers I make up for hubby at home)
pizza isn't horrible, especially homemade, but even take out. especially if paired with a salad
a lot of salad dressings are surprisingly low calories (and... a lot are surprisingly HIGH calorie LOL)
the little taquito things i eat for lunch often right now (el monterey southwest chicken something or other) its 3 for 230 cals. Theyre a decent size. they're not exactly HEALTH food, but they are good, and 7 minutes in the air fryer and i have lunch. sometimes i have 3, sometimes a couple more, but they are quick and easy and fit in my calories and work for me. i dip them in ranch (cause why not LOL) i use the bolthouse farms classic ranch, and not much, at that.
homemade soups and chili (would depend on, of course on what you put in it, but assuming no-or very little- cream, butter, calorie heavy items) most come in very low cal5 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »
what is not as high in calories as i expected? ....
For me it was donuts, as compared to other pastry case items like muffins or biscuits. The commercially made ones are much higher in calories yet people generally see muffins as a "healthier" choice, or a cheese biscuit as a nice accompaniment for a bowl of soup. One grocery store produces jumbo muffins that run 500 - 600 calories apiece.3 -
springlering62 wrote: »Dinner tonight (and every Sunday night) is steak, baked potatoes, and a nice side salad.
you'd be surprised... i actually had a half a baked potato, more or less as my dinner tonight (with salad), but still... LOL
yes it had crap on top but not as much as id have liked. i was somehow, not sure how it happened, out of cheese
@ythannah a tiny secret about those grocery store muffins . . . they start out as white or yellow cake mix!
muffins are just sad cakes with no icing.
baked goods are one of (my many) food OCD issues. its all made from scratch. icing too.
i can bake it all day long and leave it alone, as long as i dont take a single bite.6 -
Cupcakes are party muffins!4
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Friends called at the last minute yesterday afternoon and wanted to go out for sushi to local Thai restaurant.
BL unexpectedly flipped out and didn’t want to go. “I’ve already logged dinner! I don’t know how to log this stuff! I’ll go over!”
I loved @AnnPT77 ’s phrase “deconstructing meals”
and tried it out on him.
“Calm down! Let’s look at their menu and see what we can eat, and we’ll deconstruct the meal now so you’ll have an idea before you get there.”
Insert mumble mumble, sweat sweat.
He doesn’t like sushi, so that ruled out 80% of the menu. My vague impression of Thai is that (restaurant Thai, anyway) is calorie heavy, so that ruled out another 10%.
That left the 10% Japanese. We settled on grilled Teriyaki chicken with steamed vegetables, broke it down into a presumable 8oz chicken, generous 250gr veggies (“just pick zucchini and log that for simplicity’s sake”) with teriyaki sauce (we chose one from the list that had middlin’ calories). There was also a choice of salad with ginger dressing or miso soup.
We anticipated the whole meal at about 450 calories, and I think we were pretty bang on. Even I was surprised at how reasonable it was.
Then they surprised us with packed out bowls of white rice. I guesstimated they had crammed about three servings of rice in each small bowl, so we each had a third- still well within both our goals. (In the past we both would have gobbles all the rice, so this was a pleasant change.)
I get more calories than him so I settled on a very untempting (to BL) sushi roll, too.
BL was enormously pleased with his meal. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It was such a filling meal (must have been the wasabi! OMG! Wasabi! Pleasure and pain!) that I brought a large portion of it home to throw over salad greens for lunch.
I need to take another look at teriyaki sauces for home cooking. I didn’t realize so many were low calorie. I just assumed being sweet, salty and savory that they were on my “naw, I’ll eat something else” list.
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I just posted this in another thread and thought it would be worthwhile to share over here:
(Other poster was an older member, worried that she had plateaued after nine pounds in six weeks: )
my husband is nearly same age as you and has just begun MFP himself. He’s losing at a similar rate to you, and I’m having to warn him that that rapid loss doesn’t continue. I can remember, and am going through it all over again with him, how invested I was with the initial quick loss that stopped and became frustratingly “normal”.
If you are new to MFP, rapid and large weight loss in the first month or two is very, very common and normal as your body adjusts to the new (and fewer) calories, releases carb-related water, and various other reasons.
But when your body becomes accustomed to your “new normal” that rapid weight loss is gonna slow down.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. It’s absolutely normal for weight loss to appear to suddenly stop for a week or five, or become painfully slow by comparison.
Just stick with the plan and I promise, if you’ve entered your stats correctly, are eating your suggested calories, and are weighing and logging both accurately and honestly, your weight loss will continue.
If you don’t see any movement at all for five or six weeks, bring it to these boards and other users will generously help you out with advice and suggestions.
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…..and from the Mind Games Olympics:
I buy unsliced ciabatta or farmers loaves at the grocery for garlic bread. I bring them home and slice them myself- super thin- and freeze them.
The thin little slices have made BL barking crazy.
Yesterday, he realized
a.) the wafer thin slices are pretty consistently 11 grams apiece, so very easy to log and
b.) microthin crunchy garlic bread fanned out like playing cards on a plate really do “look” as visually satiating at half the calories of a couple of thick slices.
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springlering62 wrote: »A heavy milk drinker, BL’s begun weighing milk as well. (Yes, I know you can’t “weigh” a liquid, but imho in small quantities like a cup or two, there’s so little difference that it’s reasonably accurate anyway, especially compared to topping off a tall glass once or twice during breakfast.)
Realizing how much of his calorie budget he’s using for milk, he’s now cutting back, preferring to spend those calories elsewhere.
I’ve been using Silk plain cashew milk (25gr/cup) as a milk substitute whenever possible. It’s great in coffee and chai, very good in iced coffee, works fine in pancakes, biscuits.
I had some friends over last night. They saw all the cartons in the fridge and asked for a taste test. They were really surprised. Most liked it better than almond milk and “mini moos “ (whatever those are).
BL is not prepared to drink straight cashew milk yet, though.
I weigh milk. There are weight entries in the USDA database. I use "Milk, fluid, 1% fat, without added vitamin A and vitamin D."3 -
Been taken to task here before for mentioning weighing liquids. MFP users are nothing, if not thorough, lol.kshama2001 wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »A heavy milk drinker, BL’s begun weighing milk as well. (Yes, I know you can’t “weigh” a liquid, but imho in small quantities like a cup or two, there’s so little difference that it’s reasonably accurate anyway, especially compared to topping off a tall glass once or twice during breakfast.)
Realizing how much of his calorie budget he’s using for milk, he’s now cutting back, preferring to spend those calories elsewhere.
I’ve been using Silk plain cashew milk (25gr/cup) as a milk substitute whenever possible. It’s great in coffee and chai, very good in iced coffee, works fine in pancakes, biscuits.
I had some friends over last night. They saw all the cartons in the fridge and asked for a taste test. They were really surprised. Most liked it better than almond milk and “mini moos “ (whatever those are).
BL is not prepared to drink straight cashew milk yet, though.
I weigh milk. There are weight entries in the USDA database. I use "Milk, fluid, 1% fat, without added vitamin A and vitamin D."
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springlering62 wrote: »Oh, gotcha! Do you have a standard recipe thats “close enough” in ratios, that you know makes a “1.0” to go off of? Like, you could make it for 100gm servings, and the meal “serving” equates to that 100gm?
Pancakes are hard though, you have to tweak the batter just so.
That’s where the meal function lacks compared to the recipe function, and it would be so nice to just be able to share the recipe.
I guess you could log one full serving of a recipe on your account and have him capture that, and then adjust? How does that work? The “slaw” entry yesterday on mine is a recipe if you want to play around with that and see what happens
Maybe I’m confusing you. Logging it is fine. We just change the quantity of complete meal (shown as 1 serving) to .26 servings for him, .33 for me.
What’s muddling my head is since in the course of 2 days, I'd prefer to eat .33 + .33 and he eats .25 and .25, it’s a PITA to convert the recipe ingredients to 1.16. It was so beautifully easy to make using exactly 1/3 a box of cake mix. At least the egg I can supplement with liquid egg white, lol. Greatest invention since sliced bread, btw.
I'm enjoying your discussion. Thanks so much.
As a math geek, I can't resist contributing a totally impractical solution, as well as a doable, if awkward one. 😄
You eat 1/3 and your BL eats 1/4. The solution is really quite simple, isn't it?
One day's requirement: 1/3 + 1/4 = 4/12 + 3/12 = 7/12ths of a batch.
Simply make enough batches that divide evenly by 7/12ths.
That would be 12 meals, or 7 batches: 7 batches contains 84/12ths which would provide for 12 meals, each consuming 7/12ths of a batch. Of course, by that 12th meal, the batter might be looking a bit disgusting. 🤢
That's rather impractical. However, you could do the following, assuming that:
1. A batch of batter is good for at least 48 hours.
2. You measure your servings independently of the remaining amount of batter.
3. Doing the following is easier than trying to modify the ingredients, given certain fixed amounts.
Here you go, day by day:- make batch 1; you consume 7/12ths of batch, leaving 5/12ths for next day.
- make batch 2; you consume remaining 5/12ths of batch 1 plus 1/6th of batch 2, leaving 5/6ths of batch 2.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 2, leaving 1/4th for next day.
- make batch 3; you consume remaining 1/4ths of batch 2 plus 1/3rd of batch 3, leaving 2/3rds of batch 3.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 3, leaving only 1/12th for next day.
- make batch 4; you consume remaining 1/12ths of batch 3 plus 1/2 of batch 4, leaving 1/2 of batch 4.
- make batch 5; you consume remaining 1/2 of batch 4 plus 1/12th of batch 5, leaving 11/12ths of batch 5.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 5, leaving 1/3rd for next day.
- make batch 6; you consume remaining 1/3rd of batch 5 plus 1/4 of batch 6, leaving 3/4 of batch 6.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 6, leaving 1/6th for next day.
- make batch 7; you consume remaining 1/6th of batch 6 plus 5/12ths of batch 7, leaving 7/12ths of batch 7.
- you consume the remaining 7/12ths of batch 7, and start over next day.
It's enough to make one's head swim, but it works! 😂
In any case, I'm intrigued and plan on trying your recipe for myself.
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frankwbrown wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »Oh, gotcha! Do you have a standard recipe thats “close enough” in ratios, that you know makes a “1.0” to go off of? Like, you could make it for 100gm servings, and the meal “serving” equates to that 100gm?
Pancakes are hard though, you have to tweak the batter just so.
That’s where the meal function lacks compared to the recipe function, and it would be so nice to just be able to share the recipe.
I guess you could log one full serving of a recipe on your account and have him capture that, and then adjust? How does that work? The “slaw” entry yesterday on mine is a recipe if you want to play around with that and see what happens
Maybe I’m confusing you. Logging it is fine. We just change the quantity of complete meal (shown as 1 serving) to .26 servings for him, .33 for me.
What’s muddling my head is since in the course of 2 days, I'd prefer to eat .33 + .33 and he eats .25 and .25, it’s a PITA to convert the recipe ingredients to 1.16. It was so beautifully easy to make using exactly 1/3 a box of cake mix. At least the egg I can supplement with liquid egg white, lol. Greatest invention since sliced bread, btw.
I'm enjoying your discussion. Thanks so much.
As a math geek, I can't resist contributing a totally impractical solution, as well as a doable, if awkward one. 😄
You eat 1/3 and your BL eats 1/4. The solution is really quite simple, isn't it?
One day's requirement: 1/3 + 1/4 = 4/12 + 3/12 = 7/12ths of a batch.
Simply make enough batches that divide evenly by 7/12ths.
That would be 12 meals, or 7 batches: 7 batches contains 84/12ths which would provide for 12 meals, each consuming 7/12ths of a batch. Of course, by that 12th meal, the batter might be looking a bit disgusting. 🤢
That's rather impractical. However, you could do the following, assuming that:
1. A batch of batter is good for at least 48 hours.
2. You measure your servings independently of the remaining amount of batter.
3. Doing the following is easier than trying to modify the ingredients, given certain fixed amounts.
Here you go, day by day:- make batch 1; you consume 7/12ths of batch, leaving 5/12ths for next day.
- make batch 2; you consume remaining 5/12ths of batch 1 plus 1/6th of batch 2, leaving 5/6ths of batch 2.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 2, leaving 1/4th for next day.
- make batch 3; you consume remaining 1/4ths of batch 2 plus 1/3rd of batch 3, leaving 2/3rds of batch 3.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 3, leaving only 1/12th for next day.
- make batch 4; you consume remaining 1/12ths of batch 3 plus 1/2 of batch 4, leaving 1/2 of batch 4.
- make batch 5; you consume remaining 1/2 of batch 4 plus 1/12th of batch 5, leaving 11/12ths of batch 5.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 5, leaving 1/3rd for next day.
- make batch 6; you consume remaining 1/3rd of batch 5 plus 1/4 of batch 6, leaving 3/4 of batch 6.
- you consume 7/12ths of batch 6, leaving 1/6th for next day.
- make batch 7; you consume remaining 1/6th of batch 6 plus 5/12ths of batch 7, leaving 7/12ths of batch 7.
- you consume the remaining 7/12ths of batch 7, and start over next day.
It's enough to make one's head swim, but it works! 😂
In any case, I'm intrigued and plan on trying your recipe for myself.
Al? Are you trolling me?
Just kidding. Al is my prankster relative with a doctorate in random number maths. This is just the kind of advice he’d give.
I’d like to get both of you on a junket to Las Vegas, btw. Ka-Ching!!!!4 -
Btw guys like you are good to have around.
At one point we had four microcars and a two car garage. We could get all four in the garage, but it inevitably involved drama moving cars around to get the one we wanted out.
Al looked at us like we were morons and said,”They’re tiny cars. Why don’t you just park them all in the driveway at an angle and back out the one you want?”
😶
I can’t believe that pic is still online. The internet never forgets.
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Sadly, knowing math and beating the odds (i.e. the house) are two different things.
Otherwise, I'd be buying drinks protein shakes or smoothies for everybody! 😂4
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