Coronavirus prep
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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/local-companies/2022/03/04/is-there-a-frito-shortage/
Probably would not have read this article had it not reminded me of the OP.
My grocery store still has a "please wear mask" sign and most shoppers do. Inventory is still spotty on specific things. Whole chickens are back but I'm really missing my plain Greek yogurt for the past several weeks. Fresca has been hit or miss the whole pandemic.1 -
Illinois dropped the mask mandate. I'm in a purple area of the state. Maybe 2 people at the gym with masks, another 1 or 2 at Sam's Club on a Saturday morning.2
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »Just to level set, I've worn a mask when required so I'm not an anti-masker. Had an interesting conversation with a young man 2 years into his clinical fellowship (this is a 2-3 year program after medical residency) in pulmonary critical care. He started his fellowship right before the pandemic broke out in the US so has lived this on the front lines since the beginning.
His take on masks, unless you have an N95 you are just wearing a face decoration.
I disagree with that .
Obviously some masks are better than others and obviously a lacey holey one would be useless.
But a cheap paper mask is still better than nothing and for most purposes when you are in public ,not getting that close to other - eg shopping - quite sufficient.
You sure have the right to disagree, but remember who you are disagreeing with, a doctor who has been working with this 16 hours a day most days of the week since Jan, 2020.
Ah, the appeal to authority line.
so somehow his authority ( relayed to us second hand through you, so we dont know exactly what he said ) supersedes that of all other medical authorities who say otherwise and whose recomendations government guidelines of countries around the world are based on.
I agree with other posters - nobody disputes that N95 mask are better than basic paper or cloth masks.
But that doesnt mean other masks are useless - it isnt an all or nothing scenario.
If you don't like what I passed on from a conversation with someone that has more medical knowledge than anyone posting here, you are free to scroll on by.
He is speaking outside his realm of expertise and/or there is something misconstrued in the meaning being passed second hand here. Medical experts on the whole, and experts in infectious disease and disease transmission disagree. An early release of the latest study posted to the CDC website found respirator style masks (N95/KN95) were the best, but other masks provided protection to the user. MANY other studies have found widespread masking reduces community transmissions through source control.
I am licensed professional engineer, but I know damn well enough to defer and consult with engineers in their field of expertise when I am working in another area where I have a working knowledge but am not an expert.
Latest study on mask effectiveness: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm11 -
The mask mandate ended in my area of Southern CA a week ago. Most people were still wearing them that first week, but the rates have dropped rather quickly. I went to the grocery store this morning and mask usage was in the 10-20% range after being near 90% a couple weeks back. Almost every employee was no longer wearing them. I chose not to this morning. Rates in the area are low and still dropping quickly in the area, and I'm vaccinated and boosted.
Our workplace ended the mask mandate this week and is making return to the workplace at least two days a week mandatory.2 -
FWIW, as others are saying or implying: I was out and about in stores and such today, and it looks like people are still masking up in about the same numbers as before the recent guidance changes. (We didn't have a full mandate here, though, so there was already some individual discretion in nearly all but health care scenarios.)
My experience was different. We did have a full mandate, and where I am (the specific areas I am mostly in in my deep blue city), the mandate was pretty well followed -- I'd see maybe one person not wearing a mask on the L, everyone was masked in a store normally, everyone at church consistently, and if anyone walked in my building lobby or gym without one, they would be required to put one on.
Our mandate is only gone as of this past Monday, and since then -- certainly by Friday/this weekend -- I'd say the numbers wearing them have dropped down quite a bit. It has ranged from about 50% with them (they are still required on public transit, so I'm not including that) to 0% (I didn't see anyone at my gym in one). Based on when they dropped them for a short while in the summer, I expect that number to decrease over the near short term.
I'm totally fine with this (I actually find people bemoaning the awfulness of people not wearing masks when they are not required by the law/particular establishment to be irritating -- not saying anyone here is doing it, but it's something I've run into), and I am not wearing them unless they are required (which they still are some places) or I'm with someone who is uncomfortable without them (and generally not since those people whom I know are also largely avoiding public in-person stuff still).
The people in these places, given the area (the vax rate in my city varies quite a bit by neighborhood/zip) are also extremely likely to be vaxxed (the gym in question has a vax requirement and I know a number of businesses in my office building also do, and so on).3 -
I was the only one wearing a mask in Home Depot yesterday and I saw 1 other person in the grocery store wearing 1.5
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I have been wearing a mask through out this whole thing very diligently. At the start I even had to have extra therapy to deal with my PTSD and having something over my face like that. So I took it VERY seriously.
But I will say, once the CDC stated that mandates could end, I stopped wearing it in my day to day life. I have been vaccinated and boosted. I am pretty sure I had Covid at least once recently (I also think I had it before it was being tested for WAY back). But I am tired. I am mentally fatigued from it all. So I am making the choice that I think is best for me at this point in time. I still keep a mask on my person and in my car and if a store requires one I will put it on without whining.14 -
Athijade, I know PTSD is no fun, how depleting it is. You can only do what you are able. Many would not have taken additional therapy in their attempt to do as was required. Take great care of yourself.6
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Back to the antigen testing topic, my first government test order delivery took 3 weeks. A friend alerted me 2 days ago that second orders are available for addresses that already received one order. I ordered and it's out for delivery today. USPS is definitely doing something different with distribution, at least in my city.0
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I know the drug companies are continuing to work on figuring out vaccine dosages for children under 5, and I know they're feeling urgency about that. I wonder if it's feeling extra urgent now, with disease incidence in the population starting to trend down a bit?
As I recall, one factor (among many) in initial vaccine development being able to happen fast was that Covid was so widespread that accumulating evidence of effectiveness against controls was faster than in diseases that are not very common to start with; especially since there was a desire to avoid challenge trials (i.e., exposing people deliberately) given how serious Covid can be for some individuals.
Presumably, if our contagion levels in the population drop materially (inarguably a good thing!), it will take longer to collect enough data to validate vaccine effectiveness in children (not a great thing).1 -
Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.9 -
Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I used to have a tradition of dining at a restaurant every Friday night, I'd probably done it for over 30 years when the pandemic hit and the initial lockdown made it impossible. I tried with takeout for a few weeks but found the quality so diminished that I didn't continue. I haven't eaten dinner in a restaurant since March 2020, and very few restaurant lunches in that time, so I've lost the habit now and I'm not sure I'll revive it.
I've found myself a lot happier with the big decrease in social obligations (I'm very introverted) and I think I'll try to minimize those going forward, only attend things that I will really enjoy.9 -
Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.
I set up a workout area in our 3rd garage stall in March 2020 when this hit. Used it in the spring, summer and fall until got too cold and had to put the car back in there. Luckily about that time the gym opened up again. I set it up again in the spring of 2021 to supplement my gym workouts and planning to do it again in the next few weeks.
Other than that glad to get back to pre-pandemic living.5 -
I plan to keep doing curbside grocery shopping. More convenient and SO much better for my financial and caloric budgets. Virtually eliminates all the impulse shopping that happens wandering all over the place inside the store.11
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Count me in on the curbside shopping trend. I'm old, slow, and indecisive, so my would-be fellow shoppers are better off without me.10
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I didn't really do anything different when the pandemic hit. I still did most of my "crap" food shopping online at Walmart and Target and then made weekly jaunts to Trader Joe's and Vons for refrigerated/frozen/produce and any "crap" foods with a good sale items (Hello, 5 packages at one time of smoreos! You didn't last long, didja?!) .4
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I may still occasionally do grocery delivery, as it saves time, and I suspect I will do more carry out from places that before the pandemic I would only have thought of for dining in. It's a nice option to have. And I think I may wear a mask in crowded places during cold and flu season. It's been really nice going two years without picking up anything.8
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I will also, most likely wear a mask in crowded places during cold and flu season. I also now keep more than one four- pack of toilet paper on hand.7
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I'm keeping my cupboards fuller than I did before this started and am more proactive on restocking items before I run out, especially for items that are STILL showing up intermittently. I'm also maintaining more personal space than before.
I never did curbside grocery shopping. I buy a significant amount of fresh produce and I like to see what I'm buying. Also, it's easier to work out alternates when I can see what is in and not in stock right then.
Travel, both personal and business, has started to get back to pre-pandemic levels.6 -
The_Enginerd wrote: »I never did curbside grocery shopping. I buy a significant amount of fresh produce and I like to see what I'm buying. Also, it's easier to work out alternates when I can see what is in and not in stock right then.
Ditto re produce. And their idea of an acceptable substitute might end up being too high in sodium or too low in protein or otherwise not my idea of acceptable.3
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