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  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    MsCzar wrote: »
    OMG! I finally opened my last case of TP - 2019 vintage. The stock up has nothing to do with Covid, but when the pandemic hit, I was happy to have a prepper's storage closet, full larder and a victory garden going. Looks like I'm finally going to have to buy some Charmin some time in 2023. :D

    On a more serious note, my entire reason for losing weight (6 stone) and exercising daily was because I feared obese out-of-shape me mightn't survive the virus. I finally did get Covid last month and thanks to Pfizer and a much healthier body, it was pretty much a two-day case of the sniffles.

    Good for you.

    I wish they would have emphasized the roll good health plays (normal weight and exercise) in fights this from day 1.

    Still not doing it :(.

    There's a terrible track record for the general public paying attention to those kind of alarms, based on what's happened to various public health measures over the last few decades. I can understand why the medical establishment would think it'd be fruitless to blow that horn.

    That said, for a person to not know or realize that from pretty early on, I think they'd mostly need to be exercising willful ignorance. It didn't take long, for example, before obesity was obviously and publically flagged as a risk factor for worse infection, along with some of the metabolic conditions that are common in that context.

    For sure, for someone to not realize that a sub-par diet, excess body weight, and unfitness are health risks in a more general sense . . . well, with rare exceptions they'd need to be working at avoiding the realization, seems like. I've been one of those people, in some respects. It's pretty easy to ignore a clear message one doesn't want to act on, IME.

    We've seen some folks here who got that message about Covid risk and lifestyle, mentioned it when they joined MFP; some have even stuck around and succeeded.

    It's a sad statement on the US population that the collective "we" just want a pill or shot to take care of an issue rather than taking reasonable personal responsibility to help mitigate a potential health issue. Sure getting the shots is important, but would be nice to also see some personal ownership instead of an average Covid weight gain of whatever the number is.

    Just me ranting.

    You want people to blame themselves for getting covid? 🙄

    Reread and comprehend my comment. Nowhere did I say I want people to blame themselves for getting covid.

    I wish people would take personal responsibility for their health instead of wanting to rely on a drug to take care of them. Good personal health habits, supplementing a drug when needed, result in better outcomes from a disease, illness, injury in virtually all situations. Too many people don't want to make the effort/change to achieve these better outcomes.

    But the thread is about covid... so again re read what I said.
  • 33gail33
    33gail33 Posts: 1,155 Member
    edited July 2022
    33gail33 wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    Nobody claims the vaccine is perfect.

    They did originally. They said it was over 95% effective originally which is about as close to perfect as you get with vaccines. Now they can't even give us a number. Also, remember they originally claimed COVID mutated slowly and mutations were not expected to significantly reduce the efficacy of the vaccine? Believe the science, whatever it is this week.
    Despite mutations in the virus it does reduce your chances of catching it and greatly reduce the chances of severe disease if you do

    No vaccine reduces your chance of GETTING a virus. The virus will still get into your body either way. It just reduces your symptoms and the ability of the virus to replicate (if the vaccine is effective, that is). Of course in some viruses, as with dengue fever and the vaccine trials for the original SARS, being infected once actually makes the symptoms worse if you are infected again.

    This worried me at first with the vaccine. But then I realized that if it were to happen with Covid the same antibody enhancement effect would happen after natural infection OR vaccine, and my chance of avoiding natural infection indefinitely was pretty much zero.

    Does anyone know if subsequent infections tend to be worse? I am still a little nervous about this enhancement effect occurring with new variants. I'm vaxx'd, boosted (1) and had Covid (probably Omicron) in April. Would be curious to hear from anyone who has had multiple infections how that went for you ....

    It got worse each time and now i have long covid... this is with "healthy eating and supplements and blah blah blah".

    Sorry to hear that you are suffering from long covid. I have a viral illness in June 2020 that resulted in post viral fatigue syndrome for 6ish months, but the illness itself was very mild. Basically a headache and extreme fatigue, which then took months to resolve. (Tested negative at the time but still think it might have been Covid). Then my bout with Omicron in April was like the worst flu ever had, but resolved with no significant after effects.
    Is post viral fatigue basically the same as long Covid? I had a few months of daily headaches, fatigue, facial pain, twitching, vertigo, brain fog etc. No lung issues, more neurological type things.

    Those are my exact symptoms... so much fatigue and brain fog. When I had it the first time it was just a really bad cough that felt like I smoked 40 packs of cigarettes a day. When I had it the 2nd and 3rd times it was like flu on steroids (which was Christmas of 2021), that's when the lingering reduced lung capacity, fatigue and fog came.

    ETA- I'm fully vaxxed and boosted as well as pretty healthy according to medical markers (slight HBP controlled by meds and diet). I agree there seems to be no rhyme or reason to long covid, but I FULLY believe the science behind the fact that I would be on a ventilator or worse the 2nd or 3rd time I caught it without vaccination, which is what they are supposed to do. 🤷‍♀️

    All the best - hopefully yours resolves eventually as mine did. I had a round of steroids which I think helped? Either that or it just ran its course.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    33gail33 wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    Nobody claims the vaccine is perfect.

    They did originally. They said it was over 95% effective originally which is about as close to perfect as you get with vaccines. Now they can't even give us a number. Also, remember they originally claimed COVID mutated slowly and mutations were not expected to significantly reduce the efficacy of the vaccine? Believe the science, whatever it is this week.
    Despite mutations in the virus it does reduce your chances of catching it and greatly reduce the chances of severe disease if you do

    No vaccine reduces your chance of GETTING a virus. The virus will still get into your body either way. It just reduces your symptoms and the ability of the virus to replicate (if the vaccine is effective, that is). Of course in some viruses, as with dengue fever and the vaccine trials for the original SARS, being infected once actually makes the symptoms worse if you are infected again.

    This worried me at first with the vaccine. But then I realized that if it were to happen with Covid the same antibody enhancement effect would happen after natural infection OR vaccine, and my chance of avoiding natural infection indefinitely was pretty much zero.

    Does anyone know if subsequent infections tend to be worse? I am still a little nervous about this enhancement effect occurring with new variants. I'm vaxx'd, boosted (1) and had Covid (probably Omicron) in April. Would be curious to hear from anyone who has had multiple infections how that went for you ....

    It got worse each time and now i have long covid... this is with "healthy eating and supplements and blah blah blah".

    Sorry to hear that you are suffering from long covid. I have a viral illness in June 2020 that resulted in post viral fatigue syndrome for 6ish months, but the illness itself was very mild. Basically a headache and extreme fatigue, which then took months to resolve. (Tested negative at the time but still think it might have been Covid). Then my bout with Omicron in April was like the worst flu ever had, but resolved with no significant after effects.
    Is post viral fatigue basically the same as long Covid? I had a few months of daily headaches, fatigue, facial pain, twitching, vertigo, brain fog etc. No lung issues, more neurological type things.

    Those are my exact symptoms... so much fatigue and brain fog. When I had it the first time it was just a really bad cough that felt like I smoked 40 packs of cigarettes a day. When I had it the 2nd and 3rd times it was like flu on steroids (which was Christmas of 2021), that's when the lingering reduced lung capacity, fatigue and fog came.

    ETA- I'm fully vaxxed and boosted as well as pretty healthy according to medical markers (slight HBP controlled by meds and diet). I agree there seems to be no rhyme or reason to long covid, but I FULLY believe the science behind the fact that I would be on a ventilator or worse the 2nd or 3rd time I caught it without vaccination, which is what they are supposed to do. 🤷‍♀️

    All the best - hopefully yours resolves eventually as mine did. I had a round of steroids which I think helped? Either that or it just ran its course.

    Thank you and hopefully 🙏
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    I will quietly go back to reading the posts in my arm chair and keep my thoughts and experiences to myself. I have been respectful in my BIAS opinion and you have been mostly respectful.

    In the end, I hope all of us have made the best decisions for ourselves. I guess time will tell.

    Stay healthy and happy.

    ✌️
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    I will quietly go back to reading the posts in my arm chair and keep my thoughts and experiences to myself. I have been respectful in my BIAS opinion and you have been mostly respectful.

    In the end, I hope all of us have made the best decisions for ourselves. I guess time will tell.

    Stay healthy and happy.

    I think that's probably a good idea. The overwhelming majority of people posting will disagree with you...and as far as the moderation of this thread it has been heavily weighted toward doing-the-right-and-recommended-thing.

    There have been hundreds - maybe thousands - of actual scientific reviews of the data from hundreds of millions of vaccinated people - a big chunk of whom would have likely died without the vaccination.

    There have been no huge surprises with the current most-used vaccines other than just how well they do work to keep people out of the hospital (the mRNA ones.)

    You rock 💯
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    cant speak for the NHS - but there in Australia Vitamin D is a regular request in standard base line bloods and any patient could request it if Dr did not add already.

    Rest of your post didnt seem connected to Covid or to whether Vitamin D levels have any link to Covid immunity.

    I'd bet the US varies in standard-ness, and a surprising (to me) number of people here don't seem to ask for specific blood tests or (among those I've discussed it with) necessarily had it occur to them that they could. My doctor's always added whatever I asked for, though I don't think I've asked for anything radical. (Have asked for D, B12, repeats of liver function . . . . don't remember what-all.)

    Where I am, D was an add-on, not basic.

    Same here. My doctor suggested taking it in the winter as a precaution since it couldn't hurt. I mostly do. I'm in the sun a reasonable amount in the summer so don't bother then. Might get it checked next blood test.
  • IAmTheGlue
    IAmTheGlue Posts: 701 Member
    @Athijade , I hope you feel better soon. 💐