Why are carbs so bad?
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Yeah haha if I ate only protein I bet I could barely finish two miles.... but if I was just trying lose weight through dieting alone Id eat only protein... im actually forcing myself to eat mostly carbs now that im reaching above 10 miles in my long runs....Carbs are not essential.
Just another craze tho IMO. I love carbs! Yummy and give me energy
Not essential to living I should have said :] Essential for peak performance for some tho! I am the same. If I don't have carbs before a jog i don't do so well.0 -
hey, if carbs are your thing, by all means go ahead!Yeah haha if I ate only protein I bet I could barely finish two miles.... but if I was just trying lose weight through dieting alone Id eat only protein... im actually forcing myself to eat mostly carbs now that im reaching above 10 miles in my long runs....Carbs are not essential.
Just another craze tho IMO. I love carbs! Yummy and give me energy
Not essential to living I should have said :] Essential for peak performance for some tho! I am the same. If I don't have carbs before a jog i don't do so well.
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I was reading something today (Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes) and it mentioned that excessive carbohydrates mess with our insulin levels, causing the body to store fat, and also triggering hunger. He was mostly talking about sweet carbs and refined flour and refined sugar, though. What is it? Simple carbs are worse; complex carbs are okay.
Fruits and veggies are high carb. Those are good for you.0 -
Carbs aren't bad. They're just drawn that way. Wait, I always get carbs and Jessica Rabbit mixed up.
Anyway, I love carbs, and I eat plenty of them — mostly whole grains. It's never hindered my weight loss, and I feel much better when I eat them.0 -
Oh my I almost choked on my water xD0
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no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.0 -
Simple carbs make me tired, hungry again quickly, and make me crave more right away They are the fastest foods digested and are intended to provide quick energy. I don't get anything but drowsy after eating sweets and simple starches. Simple carbs also drive my blood sugar up quickly!
Complex carbs take longer to digest so they are more satisfying for a longer time. They also keep the cholesterol under control and clean out the digestive track.
In a perfect world we might enjoy all the white flour and sugar we want but in reality, it's one of those pay me or pay me later things.0 -
I was reading something today (Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes) and it mentioned that excessive carbohydrates mess with our insulin levels, causing the body to store fat, and also triggering hunger. He was mostly talking about sweet carbs and refined flour and refined sugar, though. What is it? Simple carbs are worse; complex carbs are okay.
Fruits and veggies are high carb. Those are good for you.
I'm trying to remember the channel 9 show about the guy who pushes better dieting. His view is from the healthy micronutrient side. I enjoy his point of view on the issue of food.
In this case, something like a potato isn't that great from a micronutrient point of view. Vs something like fruits/veggies like you said. Although the calorie counts might be similar, the fruit would be the better choice.
Now from pure calorie consideration, it's a wash0 -
We dont need carbs to survive... all the building blocks of our bodies can be derived from protein and fat alone.
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.0 -
I don't think your quality of living would be that greatWe dont need carbs to survive... all the building blocks of our bodies can be derived from protein and fat alone.
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.0 -
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.
sorry, never seen so much fail in one post. ^
first, i did keto with 0 carbs for 5 days, i survived. also, its not 40 or 50g of carbs a day its more 0 THRU 25gs a day depending how much your calories are.
2nd yes it has been proven that you can survive with 0 carbs
3rd please open a book and read about nutrition b4 making a post
4th keto WORKS FOR ALL PPL, that idea that "everyone is different" is like saying, " some ppl run on batteries and some run on food"
5th not costipated, as for the reason i have SOME carbs in my diet (about 15g a day for me) most comes from Fiber, such as Broccoli and Spinach0 -
furekurss did you get a brain fog feeling during the 5 days of 0 carb?
I'm doing Lyle McDonald's RFL with close to 0-5g of carbs for the next two weeks. If it wasn't for the EC stack I don't think I could do it xD0 -
Long term study of meat only diet for a year - better health than when the subjects started
http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf0 -
We need carbs! I do admit, however, I'm trying something out that involves low-carb/high protein days on most days. So I just make sure I eat the best darn carbs I can so they could do their job in my body.
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
brb workouts strong then ever,
brb HIGH Testosterone flowing in my body
brb, cave man did not farm and only ate FAT and Protein, and survived and passed on genes.
while i agree that cho is non essential, research on paleolithic man's diet has suggested they consumed about 50-60% of their kcal from CHO, so no they did not only survive on fat and protein0 -
furekurss did you get a brain fog feeling during the 5 days of 0 carb?
I'm doing Lyle McDonald's RFL with close to 0-5g of carbs for the next two weeks. If it wasn't for the EC stack I don't think I could do it xD
finally some one that reads a GOOD BOOK!
my brain fog lasted about 1 week and 3 or 4 days. Lifts at the gym went down, felt like i was going to die at the gym
after that, induction period, Lifts are going back up and im getting Leaner as well. Body fat is down and dropped 12lb in 2 weeks.
what ever u do, Stay with TKD, untill you are accustomed to it, start CKD maybe 2 or 3 weeks later0 -
We need carbs! I do admit, however, I'm trying something out that involves low-carb/high protein days on most days. So I just make sure I eat the best darn carbs I can so they could do their job in my body.
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
brb workouts strong then ever,
brb HIGH Testosterone flowing in my body
brb, cave man did not farm and only ate FAT and Protein, and survived and passed on genes.
while i agree that cho is non essential, research on paleolithic man's diet has suggested they consumed about 50-60% of their kcal from CHO, so no they did not only survive on fat and protein
noted: but technically, one can survive off only Fat and protein. but no one can survive only with Carbs and Protein0 -
Why even have that argument? It's almost impossible to cut all fat, all carbs, all protein, etc out of one's diet.0
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I was reading something today (Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes) and it mentioned that excessive carbohydrates mess with our insulin levels, causing the body to store fat, and also triggering hunger. He was mostly talking about sweet carbs and refined flour and refined sugar, though. What is it? Simple carbs are worse; complex carbs are okay.
Fruits and veggies are high carb. Those are good for you.
I suggest you do a little more research as Taubes and GCBC and Why We Get Fat is a bunch of nonsense besides his pieces on the lipid hypothesis0 -
and i'm a little lost, can someone explain to me what makes a bad carb bad and good carb good?0
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furekurss did you get a brain fog feeling during the 5 days of 0 carb?
I'm doing Lyle McDonald's RFL with close to 0-5g of carbs for the next two weeks. If it wasn't for the EC stack I don't think I could do it xD
finally some one that reads a GOOD BOOK!
my brain fog lasted about 1 week and 3 or 4 days. Lifts at the gym went down, felt like i was going to die at the gym
after that, induction period, Lifts are going back up and im getting Leaner as well. Body fat is down and dropped 12lb in 2 weeks.
what ever u do, Stay with TDK, untill you are accustomed to it, start CDK maybe 2 or 3 weeks later
Oh yea! I
Lyle for sure.
I have tried lower carb before, but the brain fog is hard to get over initially i think! Only about 9-10 days left of RFL. Was considering transitioning into a CDK for more of a body recomp instead of bulking. Fear of a formal fat girl haha
Thanks for the tip :]0 -
and i'm a little lost, can someone explain to me what makes a bad carb bad and good carb good?
good question0 -
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.
sorry, never seen so much fail in one post. ^
first, i did keto with 0 carbs for 5 days, i survived.
2nd yes it has been proven that you can survive with 0 carbs
3rd please open a book and read about nutrition b4 making a post
Darling. I've opened a hell of a lot more books than you I'd wager. I have... *counts* Oh yah... 15 years of higher education under my belt. In a bio-medical field, non-the-less.
Nobody does 0 carbs every single day. Nobody does. If you eat any vegetables at all, you're eating carbs. Fruit? You're eating carbs. Show me a study... one scientific study and a good, quality journal... that shows human beings can live 100% carb free for an extended period of time, and I'll retract my claim.
The Atkins diet doesn't count fiber or sugar alcohols as carbs (last i check), but I consider them carbs. Fiber doesn't get absorbed as a nutrient. Sugar alcohols do. And sugar alcohols are very easily converted to carbs.0 -
furekurss did you get a brain fog feeling during the 5 days of 0 carb?
I'm doing Lyle McDonald's RFL with close to 0-5g of carbs for the next two weeks. If it wasn't for the EC stack I don't think I could do it xD
finally some one that reads a GOOD BOOK!
my brain fog lasted about 1 week and 3 or 4 days. Lifts at the gym went down, felt like i was going to die at the gym
after that, induction period, Lifts are going back up and im getting Leaner as well. Body fat is down and dropped 12lb in 2 weeks.
what ever u do, Stay with TDK, untill you are accustomed to it, start CDK maybe 2 or 3 weeks later
Oh yea! I Lyle for sure.
I have tried lower carb before, but the brain fog is hard to get over initially i think! Only about 9-10 days left of RFL. Was considering transitioning into a CDK for more of a body recomp instead of bulking. Fear of a formal fat girl haha
Thanks for the tip :]
Brain fog is a beach, but if you stick to it, and do the "carb Depletion" work out Lyle tells you, you will be in Ketosis in about 3 days. and if u are hungry, just eat more fat. also, PRO TIP: read on IF, (Intermedian Fasting) <makes life easier0 -
Brain fog is a beach, but if you stick to it, and do the "carb Depletion" work out Lyle tells you, you will be in Ketosis in about 3 days. and if u are hungry, just eat more fat. also, PRO TIP: read on IF, (Intermedian Fasting) <makes life easier
Bought some keto sticks to test it. Got my workout in yesterday!
Already read a good portion on leangains.com. IF + RFL makes it so much easier. I like having a good sized meal!0 -
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.
sorry, never seen so much fail in one post. ^
first, i did keto with 0 carbs for 5 days, i survived.
2nd yes it has been proven that you can survive with 0 carbs
3rd please open a book and read about nutrition b4 making a post
Darling. I've opened a hell of a lot more books than you I'd wager. I have... *counts* Oh yah... 15 years of higher education under my belt. In a bio-medical field, non-the-less.
Nobody does 0 carbs every single day. Nobody does. If you eat any vegetables at all, you're eating carbs. Fruit? You're eating carbs. Show me a study... one scientific study and a good, quality journal... that shows human beings can live 100% carb free for an extended period of time, and I'll retract my claim.
The Atkins diet doesn't count fiber or sugar alcohols as carbs (last i check), but I consider them carbs. Fiber doesn't get absorbed as a nutrient. Sugar alcohols do. And sugar alcohols are very easily converted to carbs.
lol@ posting your credentials on an internet forum just to make it seem you know something more then everyone else
brb im an astronaut/ Nigerian Prince here, i know how eating works too!
FIBER= Carbs, who said they are not? lool. they have no Kcals in it, that is why i eat them bc i can subtrack from my Daily intake.
but to say Fiber is not a carb is like saying a car is not car bc it does not have tires
Read this then come at me with whatever you got,
15 years of higher education=/= know it all
ps. where is your proofs with actual references?
http://www.ispub.com/journal/the-internet-journal-of-nutrition-and-wellness/volume-4-number-2/arguments-in-favor-of-ketogenic-diets.html#h1-0
^READ IT0 -
Brain fog is a beach, but if you stick to it, and do the "carb Depletion" work out Lyle tells you, you will be in Ketosis in about 3 days. and if u are hungry, just eat more fat. also, PRO TIP: read on IF, (Intermedian Fasting) <makes life easier
Bought some keto sticks to test it. Got my workout in yesterday!
Already read a good portion on leangains.com. IF + RFL makes it so much easier. I like having a good sized meal!
keto sticks are ok, just remenber they can be wrong if you drink too much or too little water. IF and IIFYM also is my life now. i can finally have a life outsid lifting0 -
Carbs stole my innocence in a rather unseemly manner.
True story.0 -
Is being a d!ckhead one of the brain fog side effects?0
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Is being a d!ckhead one of the brain fog side effects?
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Long term study of meat only diet for a year - better health than when the subjects started
http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf
me in med field too and got degree in 08 - info change a lot since you went school even though the study above is from 1931!
no we dont, im doing Keto thank you verymuch, 0-25g of carbs a day.
Sorry... this is BS and it pisses me off. Because this myth keeps getting propagated.
Even on a ketogenic diet, you eat SOME carbs. What is it? 40-50 grams? Something like that?
Nobody has proven that you can survive on a 100% carb-free diet, so to say we 'don't need carbs' is foolishness.
As I already mentioned, you at least need fiber or you're gonna get super constipated.
I personally think you need other carbs too... at least some... though I won't argue that ketogenic diets work for some people.
sorry, never seen so much fail in one post. ^
first, i did keto with 0 carbs for 5 days, i survived.
2nd yes it has been proven that you can survive with 0 carbs
3rd please open a book and read about nutrition b4 making a post
Darling. I've opened a hell of a lot more books than you I'd wager. I have... *counts* Oh yah... 15 years of higher education under my belt. In a bio-medical field, non-the-less.
Nobody does 0 carbs every single day. Nobody does. If you eat any vegetables at all, you're eating carbs. Fruit? You're eating carbs. Show me a study... one scientific study and a good, quality journal... that shows human beings can live 100% carb free for an extended period of time, and I'll retract my claim.
The Atkins diet doesn't count fiber or sugar alcohols as carbs (last i check), but I consider them carbs. Fiber doesn't get absorbed as a nutrient. Sugar alcohols do. And sugar alcohols are very easily converted to carbs.0
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