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How is one cheating themselves? If they are progressing at the rate they are comfortable with especially?
If someone is losing weight doing it, how is that not progress?If all your doing is steady state cardio day in and day out then thats fine, but you're cheating yourselves out of progress ..
The metabolism doesn't need a kick start. It runs based on physical activity. And really all one has to do to make walking on a treadmill harder without increasing the speed is incline it.As i said before our bodies are highly adaptive, walking for an hour on a treadmill is not pushing your body to its limits, you'll eventually burn less and less calories, its ok to do some steady state cardio, i walk/jog 3.5 to 5 miles on the morning to kickstart my metabolism so i burn more cals throughout the day, but i also make sure to spend 15-20 mins a day on the treadmill and or the elliptical pushing my body.
Steady state cardio has a place in fitness. The best fighters in the world do steady state cardio for endurance and to help keep their weight in check.I didn't say HIIT was the only effective way to exercise, what i said was try something new, shock your body and see the results faster. If you can't do it then don't bash my post, start off slow and work your way up to it, because the fact of the matter is its a much much much more effective way than steady state cardio will ever be
If you don't like steady state cardio, that's fine, but don't bash it.
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I never bashed it, i even said i do steady state, do you guys read?!?!?! Lol what i said is if that ALL you do day in and day out then you're cheating yourself, mix it up a little bit .... why is that concept being so ill received
Any of those train that way. That's their basics. If you really want to talk basics, all one needs to do to lose weight is eat less than they burn. Exercise of any type is great for health and fitness, but you know as well as I do that calorie intake versus calories burned dictates energy balance in the body.And while progress might be acheived why not maximize that and optimize the time spent working out, hence cheating yourself ... and why wouldn't you do everything you can to burn more calories if losing body fat is the goal, if that means shocking the system or boosting metabolism then why would that be a bad thing? As i stated before our bodies are highly adaptive, you only get results for so long before it adapts and know longer responds the same, why not mix it up, keep it guessing and working hard to burn cals, fat, and build muscle?
Any professional athlete, bodybuilder, and trainer will tell you these are the basics.
There's nothing with working hard if that's something that person can do. But there are lots and lots of people that can't do HIIT. They body's, their age, their ability may not be able to handle it, especially if they start out obese on a program.
I get what you're trying to say, but unless you're actually aware of all the types of people out there, you just can't push them to an exercise philosophy that you believe works best. It's best for you and maybe other athletes, but may not be for lots of the general population.
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And that was my mistake, i see it now because thats where people's focus is
My goal of the post was to get people to get out of there familiar comfortable ways and to push themselves... hiit was an example ... if someone can walk hours on a treadmill they can definitely do some interval training, throw some jogging and sprints in there ...
It wasn't meant to come off as this is all you have to do and boom you're golden lol it was meant as an example to get people to push push push and then push some more.
Not sure where this message was lost, i felt it was clear but people took things super literal instead of seeing the overall message
For me, familiar and comfortable is sustainable. Pushing is useless if it makes you quit.
If pushing yourself a little each day or each week is what will make you quit then you aren't fully comitted to achieving your goals its as easy as that, if pushung yourself leads to you quitting then you were probably gonna quit to begin with you just found your excuse
If someone has the goal of fat loss and they have a low tolerance for exerting themselves and so they choose to use easier exercises and not push too hard in the gym, the net result may be that they don't reap maximal benefit from their training, but the trade off could be that they keep going to the gym instead of quitting.
And being consistent over several months is a LOT better than quitting.
This is an important thing to think about.
This is so true, but at what point does one get to the level that they can do more ? See what I'm saying?
I'm nit talking to people who its their first day, I'm talking to the people who consistently walk miles, do the same routines and who can and should push to the next level.. if you can walk miles on a treadmill then you can jog a little, possibly sprint and get the heart rate up more
I'm not saying first day in the gym go balls to the wall lol no I'm saying yes be consistent by all means but make small steps forward over time and push yourself, the hiit was an example not a *kitten* exercise plan..
Why do you care? What about older people? People with joint issues who shouldn't run? Does your view even consider such possibilities?
If people are walking miles what does it matter to you? How do you get to be the arbiter of "should"?4 -
Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
I like where it says this:
"Importantly, as some types of exercise are contraindicated in certain patient populations and HIIT is a complex concept for those unfamiliar to exercise, some patients may require specific assessment or instruction before commencing a HIIT program."
Which is pretty much opposite of how the main post went about pushing HIIT.
Hiit was a suggestion and example... lol again people missed the overall message0 -
I'd everyone can always "push harder", and no one can ever be content with where they are, that would seem to me that the OP would consider everyone as cheating themselves, no?4
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Don't worry. Lots of people started out on a bad foot here, myself included. It's a great community and there are lots and lots of people who are well versed in exercise, fitness, and nutrition. There will also be lots of crap you'll hear and even for myself, I had to concede that some of the information I believed to be true, was actually incorrect after being introduced to more peer reviewed clinical studies. And that's okay. If you're learning, you're growing.
How is one cheating themselves? If they are progressing at the rate they are comfortable with especially?
If someone is losing weight doing it, how is that not progress?If all your doing is steady state cardio day in and day out then thats fine, but you're cheating yourselves out of progress ..
The metabolism doesn't need a kick start. It runs based on physical activity. And really all one has to do to make walking on a treadmill harder without increasing the speed is incline it.As i said before our bodies are highly adaptive, walking for an hour on a treadmill is not pushing your body to its limits, you'll eventually burn less and less calories, its ok to do some steady state cardio, i walk/jog 3.5 to 5 miles on the morning to kickstart my metabolism so i burn more cals throughout the day, but i also make sure to spend 15-20 mins a day on the treadmill and or the elliptical pushing my body.
Steady state cardio has a place in fitness. The best fighters in the world do steady state cardio for endurance and to help keep their weight in check.I didn't say HIIT was the only effective way to exercise, what i said was try something new, shock your body and see the results faster. If you can't do it then don't bash my post, start off slow and work your way up to it, because the fact of the matter is its a much much much more effective way than steady state cardio will ever be
If you don't like steady state cardio, that's fine, but don't bash it.
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I never bashed it, i even said i do steady state, do you guys read?!?!?! Lol what i said is if that ALL you do day in and day out then you're cheating yourself, mix it up a little bit .... why is that concept being so ill received
Any of those train that way. That's their basics. If you really want to talk basics, all one needs to do to lose weight is eat less than they burn. Exercise of any type is great for health and fitness, but you know as well as I do that calorie intake versus calories burned dictates energy balance in the body.And while progress might be acheived why not maximize that and optimize the time spent working out, hence cheating yourself ... and why wouldn't you do everything you can to burn more calories if losing body fat is the goal, if that means shocking the system or boosting metabolism then why would that be a bad thing? As i stated before our bodies are highly adaptive, you only get results for so long before it adapts and know longer responds the same, why not mix it up, keep it guessing and working hard to burn cals, fat, and build muscle?
Any professional athlete, bodybuilder, and trainer will tell you these are the basics.
There's nothing with working hard if that's something that person can do. But there are lots and lots of people that can't do HIIT. They body's, their age, their ability may not be able to handle it, especially if they start out obese on a program.
I get what you're trying to say, but unless you're actually aware of all the types of people out there, you just can't push them to an exercise philosophy that you believe works best. It's best for you and maybe other athletes, but may not be for lots of the general population.
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And that was my mistake, i see it now because thats where people's focus is
My goal of the post was to get people to get out of there familiar comfortable ways and to push themselves... hiit was an example ... if someone can walk hours on a treadmill they can definitely do some interval training, throw some jogging and sprints in there ...
It wasn't meant to come off as this is all you have to do and boom you're golden lol it was meant as an example to get people to push push push and then push some more.
Not sure where this message was lost, i felt it was clear but people took things super literal instead of seeing the overall message
BTW, I grew up in Fairfield. I went to Dover (which is now an adult continuation school), Sullivan, and Fairfield high. My parents still live there and I visit them every couple of weeks. I can say it's WAY DIFFERENT than when I grew up there from the 70's through the 90's.
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Definitely open to learning always and I'm not worried at all i was just sharing helpful info that people took way out of context I'm happy with myself and my health and results so the opions of others don't bug me much, learning more when that info is credible is something I'm always open to though if it means improving
I actually live in sac now, kinda far from everything but a much better vibe as far as I'm concerned0 -
In short, this set out to try to compare HIIT with other exercises but the conclusion just really talks about the results of the tests. It doesn't really delve into the comparison of other exercises except in regards to (essentially) saying that HIIT takes less time than other exercises in regards to reaching certain conditions. Which is kind of a "duh".
But that doesn't support you telling people to stop walking and do HIIT, especially as you have no clue as to where they are coming/starting from physically and therefore could encourage them to jump into something that may be to much for them at this time. Which in turn could lead to them quitting.
Of course it doesn't help when you also follow it up with insinuating people are scared of a challenge or are lazy. Because that's basically what you've done in the way you've come off in your responses to a few.
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How is one cheating themselves? If they are progressing at the rate they are comfortable with especially?
If someone is losing weight doing it, how is that not progress?If all your doing is steady state cardio day in and day out then thats fine, but you're cheating yourselves out of progress ..
The metabolism doesn't need a kick start. It runs based on physical activity. And really all one has to do to make walking on a treadmill harder without increasing the speed is incline it.As i said before our bodies are highly adaptive, walking for an hour on a treadmill is not pushing your body to its limits, you'll eventually burn less and less calories, its ok to do some steady state cardio, i walk/jog 3.5 to 5 miles on the morning to kickstart my metabolism so i burn more cals throughout the day, but i also make sure to spend 15-20 mins a day on the treadmill and or the elliptical pushing my body.
Steady state cardio has a place in fitness. The best fighters in the world do steady state cardio for endurance and to help keep their weight in check.I didn't say HIIT was the only effective way to exercise, what i said was try something new, shock your body and see the results faster. If you can't do it then don't bash my post, start off slow and work your way up to it, because the fact of the matter is its a much much much more effective way than steady state cardio will ever be
If you don't like steady state cardio, that's fine, but don't bash it.
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I never bashed it, i even said i do steady state, do you guys read?!?!?! Lol what i said is if that ALL you do day in and day out then you're cheating yourself, mix it up a little bit .... why is that concept being so ill received
Any of those train that way. That's their basics. If you really want to talk basics, all one needs to do to lose weight is eat less than they burn. Exercise of any type is great for health and fitness, but you know as well as I do that calorie intake versus calories burned dictates energy balance in the body.And while progress might be acheived why not maximize that and optimize the time spent working out, hence cheating yourself ... and why wouldn't you do everything you can to burn more calories if losing body fat is the goal, if that means shocking the system or boosting metabolism then why would that be a bad thing? As i stated before our bodies are highly adaptive, you only get results for so long before it adapts and know longer responds the same, why not mix it up, keep it guessing and working hard to burn cals, fat, and build muscle?
Any professional athlete, bodybuilder, and trainer will tell you these are the basics.
There's nothing with working hard if that's something that person can do. But there are lots and lots of people that can't do HIIT. They body's, their age, their ability may not be able to handle it, especially if they start out obese on a program.
I get what you're trying to say, but unless you're actually aware of all the types of people out there, you just can't push them to an exercise philosophy that you believe works best. It's best for you and maybe other athletes, but may not be for lots of the general population.
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And that was my mistake, i see it now because thats where people's focus is
My goal of the post was to get people to get out of there familiar comfortable ways and to push themselves... hiit was an example ... if someone can walk hours on a treadmill they can definitely do some interval training, throw some jogging and sprints in there ...
It wasn't meant to come off as this is all you have to do and boom you're golden lol it was meant as an example to get people to push push push and then push some more.
Not sure where this message was lost, i felt it was clear but people took things super literal instead of seeing the overall message
For me, familiar and comfortable is sustainable. Pushing is useless if it makes you quit.
If pushing yourself a little each day or each week is what will make you quit then you aren't fully comitted to achieving your goals its as easy as that, if pushung yourself leads to you quitting then you were probably gonna quit to begin with you just found your excuse
If someone has the goal of fat loss and they have a low tolerance for exerting themselves and so they choose to use easier exercises and not push too hard in the gym, the net result may be that they don't reap maximal benefit from their training, but the trade off could be that they keep going to the gym instead of quitting.
And being consistent over several months is a LOT better than quitting.
This is an important thing to think about.
This is so true, but at what point does one get to the level that they can do more ? See what I'm saying?
I'm nit talking to people who its their first day, I'm talking to the people who consistently walk miles, do the same routines and who can and should push to the next level.. if you can walk miles on a treadmill then you can jog a little, possibly sprint and get the heart rate up more
I'm not saying first day in the gym go balls to the wall lol no I'm saying yes be consistent by all means but make small steps forward over time and push yourself, the hiit was an example not a *kitten* exercise plan..
"Should." Right there. That's your problem. That isn't a decision you get to make for others, and you don't get to be judgmental about it. That is what people are responding to in this thread -- bossy, judgy, superior nonsense from a guy who seems to think big muscles are more important than happiness, health, or anything else.
Its not my problem lol its yours, and yes you SHOULD always push yourself0 -
Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
I like where it says this:
"Importantly, as some types of exercise are contraindicated in certain patient populations and HIIT is a complex concept for those unfamiliar to exercise, some patients may require specific assessment or instruction before commencing a HIIT program."
Which is pretty much opposite of how the main post went about pushing HIIT.
Hiit was a suggestion and example... lol again people missed the overall message
No, I think that "My way is the only correct way" came through quite clearly.7 -
stephenearllucas wrote: »So, to take the thread in a different direction:
I have a hard time taking any advice or viewpoint seriously when it has "lol" and "lmao" regularly interspersed. Especially "lol"....
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You might Google Patrick Umphrey...8
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Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
I like where it says this:
"Importantly, as some types of exercise are contraindicated in certain patient populations and HIIT is a complex concept for those unfamiliar to exercise, some patients may require specific assessment or instruction before commencing a HIIT program."
Which is pretty much opposite of how the main post went about pushing HIIT.
Hiit was a suggestion and example... lol again people missed the overall message
No, I think that "My way is the only correct way" came through quite clearly.
Then you should go and read it again from a non biased and judgmental stanpoint because it wasn't my intention at all nor was it implied in the least bit, is my thumbnail pic threatening or something? Your preconceived notion had to of come from somewhere0 -
You can't say that you "Should" do one thing and then say your aren't being judgemental. Those are kinda the same thing.11
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Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
In short, this set out to try to compare HIIT with other exercises but the conclusion just really talks about the results of the tests. It doesn't really delve into the comparison of other exercises except in regards to (essentially) saying that HIIT takes less time than other exercises in regards to reaching certain conditions. Which is kind of a "duh".
But that doesn't support you telling people to stop walking and do HIIT, especially as you have no clue as to where they are coming/starting from physically and therefore could encourage them to jump into something that may be to much for them at this time. Which in turn could lead to them quitting.
Of course it doesn't help when you also follow it up with insinuating people are scared of a challenge or are lazy. Because that's basically what you've done in the way you've come off in your responses to a few.
The stop walking was meant to come off as , stop doing the same thing you've been doing and mix it up... how was this not clear, the entire message was disregarded and again people just focused on a minute detail which was meant as an example0 -
Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
I like where it says this:
"Importantly, as some types of exercise are contraindicated in certain patient populations and HIIT is a complex concept for those unfamiliar to exercise, some patients may require specific assessment or instruction before commencing a HIIT program."
Which is pretty much opposite of how the main post went about pushing HIIT.
Hiit was a suggestion and example... lol again people missed the overall message
No, I think that "My way is the only correct way" came through quite clearly.
Then you should go and read it again from a non biased and judgmental stanpoint because it wasn't my intention at all nor was it implied in the least bit, is my thumbnail pic threatening or something? Your preconceived notion had to of come from somewhere
"...stop walking on the treadmill for hours and hours..."
"Doing the same exercises over and over again, day i and day out while at first you'll lose some weight, will only lead to a plateau and slow progression with your goals."
Sure sounds like someone saying you have to follow my way. And I find it pretty condescending you think everyone wants to look like you or/and that anyone that argues against you is somehow jealous of you.7 -
How is one cheating themselves? If they are progressing at the rate they are comfortable with especially?
If someone is losing weight doing it, how is that not progress?If all your doing is steady state cardio day in and day out then thats fine, but you're cheating yourselves out of progress ..
The metabolism doesn't need a kick start. It runs based on physical activity. And really all one has to do to make walking on a treadmill harder without increasing the speed is incline it.As i said before our bodies are highly adaptive, walking for an hour on a treadmill is not pushing your body to its limits, you'll eventually burn less and less calories, its ok to do some steady state cardio, i walk/jog 3.5 to 5 miles on the morning to kickstart my metabolism so i burn more cals throughout the day, but i also make sure to spend 15-20 mins a day on the treadmill and or the elliptical pushing my body.
Steady state cardio has a place in fitness. The best fighters in the world do steady state cardio for endurance and to help keep their weight in check.I didn't say HIIT was the only effective way to exercise, what i said was try something new, shock your body and see the results faster. If you can't do it then don't bash my post, start off slow and work your way up to it, because the fact of the matter is its a much much much more effective way than steady state cardio will ever be
If you don't like steady state cardio, that's fine, but don't bash it.
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I never bashed it, i even said i do steady state, do you guys read?!?!?! Lol what i said is if that ALL you do day in and day out then you're cheating yourself, mix it up a little bit .... why is that concept being so ill received
Any of those train that way. That's their basics. If you really want to talk basics, all one needs to do to lose weight is eat less than they burn. Exercise of any type is great for health and fitness, but you know as well as I do that calorie intake versus calories burned dictates energy balance in the body.And while progress might be acheived why not maximize that and optimize the time spent working out, hence cheating yourself ... and why wouldn't you do everything you can to burn more calories if losing body fat is the goal, if that means shocking the system or boosting metabolism then why would that be a bad thing? As i stated before our bodies are highly adaptive, you only get results for so long before it adapts and know longer responds the same, why not mix it up, keep it guessing and working hard to burn cals, fat, and build muscle?
Any professional athlete, bodybuilder, and trainer will tell you these are the basics.
There's nothing with working hard if that's something that person can do. But there are lots and lots of people that can't do HIIT. They body's, their age, their ability may not be able to handle it, especially if they start out obese on a program.
I get what you're trying to say, but unless you're actually aware of all the types of people out there, you just can't push them to an exercise philosophy that you believe works best. It's best for you and maybe other athletes, but may not be for lots of the general population.
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And that was my mistake, i see it now because thats where people's focus is
My goal of the post was to get people to get out of there familiar comfortable ways and to push themselves... hiit was an example ... if someone can walk hours on a treadmill they can definitely do some interval training, throw some jogging and sprints in there ...
It wasn't meant to come off as this is all you have to do and boom you're golden lol it was meant as an example to get people to push push push and then push some more.
Not sure where this message was lost, i felt it was clear but people took things super literal instead of seeing the overall message
For me, familiar and comfortable is sustainable. Pushing is useless if it makes you quit.
If pushing yourself a little each day or each week is what will make you quit then you aren't fully comitted to achieving your goals its as easy as that, if pushung yourself leads to you quitting then you were probably gonna quit to begin with you just found your excuse
If someone has the goal of fat loss and they have a low tolerance for exerting themselves and so they choose to use easier exercises and not push too hard in the gym, the net result may be that they don't reap maximal benefit from their training, but the trade off could be that they keep going to the gym instead of quitting.
And being consistent over several months is a LOT better than quitting.
This is an important thing to think about.
This is so true, but at what point does one get to the level that they can do more ? See what I'm saying?
I'm nit talking to people who its their first day, I'm talking to the people who consistently walk miles, do the same routines and who can and should push to the next level.. if you can walk miles on a treadmill then you can jog a little, possibly sprint and get the heart rate up more
I'm not saying first day in the gym go balls to the wall lol no I'm saying yes be consistent by all means but make small steps forward over time and push yourself, the hiit was an example not a *kitten* exercise plan..
"Should." Right there. That's your problem. That isn't a decision you get to make for others, and you don't get to be judgmental about it. That is what people are responding to in this thread -- bossy, judgy, superior nonsense from a guy who seems to think big muscles are more important than happiness, health, or anything else.
Its not my problem lol its yours, and yes you SHOULD always push yourself
Why? Last time I checked, I was an adult and you weren't in any way in charge of my choices.10 -
Maven_of_the_Strings wrote: »
I like where it says this:
"Importantly, as some types of exercise are contraindicated in certain patient populations and HIIT is a complex concept for those unfamiliar to exercise, some patients may require specific assessment or instruction before commencing a HIIT program."
Which is pretty much opposite of how the main post went about pushing HIIT.
Hiit was a suggestion and example... lol again people missed the overall message
No, I think that "My way is the only correct way" came through quite clearly.
Then you should go and read it again from a non biased and judgmental stanpoint because it wasn't my intention at all nor was it implied in the least bit, is my thumbnail pic threatening or something? Your preconceived notion had to of come from somewhere
Then clarify my notion.
Please restate your message if it didn't say that people are doing the wrong thing if they aren't constantly ramping up and/or changing their exercise routine.1 -
You can't say that you "Should" do one thing and then say your aren't being judgemental. Those are kinda the same thing.
How? I'm not judging anyone, what I'm saying is if being healthy and fit is your goal then its necessary to push yourself
I feel as though people are just being argumentative just out of boredom or something, this *kitten* is pretty basic stuff
The first time working out you had to push yourself as time went on you didn't remain stagnant and do the same routine with the same intensity you pushed more and more... so how does me saying push yourself come off so negatively lol *kitten* meant to be inspiring but people are getting offended and feeling attacked and its seemingly a insecurity thing or something
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How is one cheating themselves? If they are progressing at the rate they are comfortable with especially?
If someone is losing weight doing it, how is that not progress?If all your doing is steady state cardio day in and day out then thats fine, but you're cheating yourselves out of progress ..
The metabolism doesn't need a kick start. It runs based on physical activity. And really all one has to do to make walking on a treadmill harder without increasing the speed is incline it.As i said before our bodies are highly adaptive, walking for an hour on a treadmill is not pushing your body to its limits, you'll eventually burn less and less calories, its ok to do some steady state cardio, i walk/jog 3.5 to 5 miles on the morning to kickstart my metabolism so i burn more cals throughout the day, but i also make sure to spend 15-20 mins a day on the treadmill and or the elliptical pushing my body.
Steady state cardio has a place in fitness. The best fighters in the world do steady state cardio for endurance and to help keep their weight in check.I didn't say HIIT was the only effective way to exercise, what i said was try something new, shock your body and see the results faster. If you can't do it then don't bash my post, start off slow and work your way up to it, because the fact of the matter is its a much much much more effective way than steady state cardio will ever be
If you don't like steady state cardio, that's fine, but don't bash it.
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I never bashed it, i even said i do steady state, do you guys read?!?!?! Lol what i said is if that ALL you do day in and day out then you're cheating yourself, mix it up a little bit .... why is that concept being so ill received
Any of those train that way. That's their basics. If you really want to talk basics, all one needs to do to lose weight is eat less than they burn. Exercise of any type is great for health and fitness, but you know as well as I do that calorie intake versus calories burned dictates energy balance in the body.And while progress might be acheived why not maximize that and optimize the time spent working out, hence cheating yourself ... and why wouldn't you do everything you can to burn more calories if losing body fat is the goal, if that means shocking the system or boosting metabolism then why would that be a bad thing? As i stated before our bodies are highly adaptive, you only get results for so long before it adapts and know longer responds the same, why not mix it up, keep it guessing and working hard to burn cals, fat, and build muscle?
Any professional athlete, bodybuilder, and trainer will tell you these are the basics.
There's nothing with working hard if that's something that person can do. But there are lots and lots of people that can't do HIIT. They body's, their age, their ability may not be able to handle it, especially if they start out obese on a program.
I get what you're trying to say, but unless you're actually aware of all the types of people out there, you just can't push them to an exercise philosophy that you believe works best. It's best for you and maybe other athletes, but may not be for lots of the general population.
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And that was my mistake, i see it now because thats where people's focus is
My goal of the post was to get people to get out of there familiar comfortable ways and to push themselves... hiit was an example ... if someone can walk hours on a treadmill they can definitely do some interval training, throw some jogging and sprints in there ...
It wasn't meant to come off as this is all you have to do and boom you're golden lol it was meant as an example to get people to push push push and then push some more.
Not sure where this message was lost, i felt it was clear but people took things super literal instead of seeing the overall message
For me, familiar and comfortable is sustainable. Pushing is useless if it makes you quit.
If pushing yourself a little each day or each week is what will make you quit then you aren't fully comitted to achieving your goals its as easy as that, if pushung yourself leads to you quitting then you were probably gonna quit to begin with you just found your excuse
If someone has the goal of fat loss and they have a low tolerance for exerting themselves and so they choose to use easier exercises and not push too hard in the gym, the net result may be that they don't reap maximal benefit from their training, but the trade off could be that they keep going to the gym instead of quitting.
And being consistent over several months is a LOT better than quitting.
This is an important thing to think about.
This is so true, but at what point does one get to the level that they can do more ? See what I'm saying?
I'm nit talking to people who its their first day, I'm talking to the people who consistently walk miles, do the same routines and who can and should push to the next level.. if you can walk miles on a treadmill then you can jog a little, possibly sprint and get the heart rate up more
I'm not saying first day in the gym go balls to the wall lol no I'm saying yes be consistent by all means but make small steps forward over time and push yourself, the hiit was an example not a *kitten* exercise plan..
Right now I'm working out without the goal of pushing harder or improving. I'm at a place where the goal is to just work out consistently, even if I never do any better than I'm doing right now. And guess what? I'm not "cheating myself," and I'm not an inferior person in any way for not trying to improve.
I can walk miles and miles. I can't run anymore. It hurts my hip too much. And when my hip hurts too much, I can't squat with good form either. "Pushing" on any type of cardio increases my odds of injuring myself AGAIN, and I'm *kitten* sick and tired of being injured.
I don't need to get my heart rate up more, I don't need to do anything more than exactly what I'm doing to maintain my BMI of 21, and I don't need condescending know-it-alls telling me I'm doing it wrong. My goal is to have a healthy body that I can enjoy for the rest of my life with minimal pain, and your broad-stroke advice is terrible for me. It's also terrible and discouraging for many, many people on this board who are limited in ability in some way.10 -
You can't say that you "Should" do one thing and then say your aren't being judgemental. Those are kinda the same thing.
How? I'm not judging anyone, what I'm saying is if being healthy and fit is your goal then its necessary to push yourself
I feel as though people are just being argumentative just out of boredom or something, this *kitten* is pretty basic stuff
The first time working out you had to push yourself as time went on you didn't remain stagnant and do the same routine with the same intensity you pushed more and more... so how does me saying push yourself come off so negatively lol *kitten* meant to be inspiring but people are getting offended and feeling attacked and its seemingly a insecurity thing or something
Pretty sure the first time I worked out I completely overdid it and then had to have my "1st day" all over again a few times before realizing that pacing one's self is perfectly fine.5
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