The Sober Squad- Alcohol Free Living
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More on AF Wine...
I can def say this did not trigger me. I bought the bottle Sunday and had 2 glasses. The bottle is still on the counter 1/3 full. Fre red blend is 70 cal for 8 oz.3 -
I know AF wines and beers are controversial, and I certainly wouldn't want to suggest anything that triggers anybody. My only experience with AF wine was when I was prepping for a colonoscopy a few years ago. I don't like sweets at all, so the 7-Up, ginger ale thing was making me sick, and for my almost vegetarian self, the thought of drinking chicken broth grossed me out. So I asked my M.D. brother-in-law if AF white wine would be acceptable and he said yes, as long as it was white and less than .05 or whatever the AF cut-off is. I found it quite disgusting in taste and went back to water.
However, in her books, Clare Pooley (The Sober Mummy) speaks of really enjoying her AF beer. I've never been a beer drinker--maybe two per year on super hot Texas days. But I have been enjoying AF Becks and AF Heineken. Maybe it's because I'm not a connoisseur of beer, but to me they taste as good as the occasional "real" beers I would have. I totally understand that for some people, this would not be a good idea. For me, the AF beer (no more than one or two per week) tastes really good and helps me not even want anything alcoholic. Plus it's only 69 calories.
My HEB was carrying this Paulaner AF Weizen Radler that has natural lemonade effervescence, & I loved it.. barely even tastes like beer. Went yesterday & they don't even have a place for it anymore. Central Market doesn't carry it, either. At the same time, they've also discontinued my dark chocolate espresso covered almonds, so I'm totally disappointed with both of them at this point. You know Brookshires definitely won't have it, either. Haha1 -
@stephanne13 HEB is the one thing my daughter misses about being stationed in Texas.3
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Good morning friends!! Wishing you a sunny sober day!2
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@FeelinFooFoo, I love lemon water, too. Hope you have a wonderful holiday!
Regarding HEB . . . In my town, we have exactly two grocery stores: The "big" HEB and the "little" HEB. Seriously. Telling the doctor where to send the prescription, you say "HEB" and she says "Big or little?" I love the store, too, but they are infamous for having something you get addicted to and then suddenly not having it. And they love to "rearrange" things so often that there is no getting used to where things are. Still, so far they still have the Heineken AF. Too bad about the Paulaner. That sounds good!
I'm doing well on my AF "personal project," but I'm considering signing up for Kate Bee's (The Sober School) 6 week course. It's absolutely NOT cheap, but I like her videos, and I'm thinking that the specific 6 week commitment might help. Has anyone taken that course? One thing I like is that she has a 7-day money-back policy, so it seems you could get a good taste of whether you really want to spend that money. Anyway, if anyone has taken it, I'd love some feedback.4 -
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Two sober hotties for us! Happy 4th of July in America; I'm looking forward to watching Hamilton on Disney Plus. I would have seen it downtown but it was canceled this year. Have a great day!4
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@FeelinFooFoo, you are so funny!
@RubyRed427, I like the quotes. Like the John Hamm one, I recall hearing Dr. Christiane Northrup saying years ago that when we’re young unhealthy things say to us, “Aren’t we having fun?” Then about age 40 they announce, “Now we’re going to make you OLD.” Wisdom.3 -
@FeelinFooFoo, Thank you so much for sharing the beautiful pictures. It makes me SUPER homesick. I remember going to Ft. William and then taking the ferry over to Mull. Funny, our pictures of that trip have identical weather. Ha! It's still gorgeous. It must have been really nice to be out in nature. Hope Scotland does the "reopening" in a more sane fashion than Texas did. We are a total hotspot and I'm wondering when we'll ever be able to be out and about safely. Sigh.5
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@FeelinFooFoo Loved your photos!!!4
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Today I celebrate "independence" from alcohol! I am missing it somewhat today; old habits die hard. But I do remember last 4th of July I was sober and same with today. The neighbor asked if I wanted some wine I said "Nope I am trying to stay clear of wine!" She laughed. She said "Ok how about some tea." See... no one really cares if you don't drink.
p.s. She is the one who told me about THREE DUI she has had including an 18 month stint in jail due to DUI. She has not car currently and lost her nursing position. As she told me I was scared straight. She said the DUI ruined her life. She lost her career, house and money.7 -
Beautiful pics @FeelinFooFoo 💗2
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Good morning! It's Sober Sunday in the midwest. So happy I didn't drink last night on Fourth of July because today I have a massage. Will not be going to it hungover! How's everyone's weekend?2
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@FeelinFooFoo, your wee brother is lucky to have you. I would imagine seeing him suffer helps you stay resolved not to go back down that road!
@RubyRed427, enjoy your massage! That sounds wonderful, and it would be so yucky to be hungover for such a nurturing event.
I decided to splurge on Kate Bee's 6-week course that begins tomorrow. I was probably going to do it anyway when I added up what drinking costs, but then Thursday an unexpected project fell into my lap. I sort of felt the universe was talking to me. The project will more than cover the cost of the course. Kate does offer money back during the first 7 days, so if I feel like it's just not my cup of tea, there is that. She asks for a 6-week ironclad commitment to not drink, and that will help me stick to it, I think. The six weeks will end on our first day of school (whatever form that will take).
Hope everyone finishes the weekend having AF fun!5 -
@donimfp We look forward to hearing what the program entails. I imagine it will be quite motivating and eye opening. Please share any thing you learn!
@FeelinFooFoo Lovely idea to have a spa day at home. I feel for your brother. I was him many many times. Sundays suck when you're hungover. He will learn with your help and love. I agree with @donimfp seeing him suffer makes our resolve even stronger.2 -
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I remember about three years ago... or maybe four. I was in a fancy rooftop bar. The bartender kept bringing me drinks even when I didn't ask. I remember drinking down martinis like they were water. Then, I saw myself from above. I was having probably an outer body experience... and I remember thinking. "Who are you? Why can't you stop drinking? Why does he keep bringing you more? ...." It was one of several aha moments in my life. It was the realization that I am not like my friends. I am not normal. I have an addiction and the only way to stop is to just accept it I have no off switch. Not wish I could drink. Not hope I will be able to in the future. Just accept reality. I cannot stop once I start. So, it's a pretty easy decision for me. Do I want to live my life regretting my decisions, risking my life and organs, waking up wanting to die? NO No NO. I don't want that life. I am totally in control of my decisions. There is such peace in accepting yourself for what you are. Thanks for listening!4
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One last post before I take a break from posting: I am posting a lot lately because I am BORED. But it's a good bored.
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@RubyRed427 your comment re: No OFF switch, reminded me of watching The Fifth Estate on YouTube (Canadian news docu-type show) It was entitled, "The Pour ~ Treating Alcoholics with Wine" It is a residential treatment facility, The Oaks, for chronic alcoholics who have failed several attempts at conventional treatment programs. Every hour the residents line up to get their "pour" of a prescribed amount of homemade wine made on site...from 7:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. every hour on the hour. Being served up to 3 bottles of wine over the course of 14 hours...it was a very interesting account of how these people are actually regulated and able to have some kind of a life, keeps them off of the streets, they are dispensed their medications regularly, fed healthy food regularly and have a social life within the home. It is funded in part by the residents through whatever $$ they have coming in. The commentator asked the doctor who created and facillitates this program about the 3 bottles of wine that residents drink in a day...certainly that can't be good for a person? he says. Of course it isn't, says the doctor...it will kill them BUT this way they can die with dignity...death is inevitable for these ones, but it is how they die that is the difference between leaving them to their disease on the street and giving them a hand up to house & treat them...they also had a law enforcement officer talking about the drain alcoholism takes on emergency resources and how this program has actually eliminated the drain with some of these hard-core alcoholics being taken care of because they are off the streets and their drinking is monitored so they don't get crazy drunk and into all types of criminal behavior. The residents do not get intoxicated, if there are any signs of them being so, it is addressed by holding off their next "pour" longer....it just keeps them from being sick and allows them to function within their disease...as I watched this show it saddened me tremendously to see the toll that alcohol can have on people's lives...most of these people were at rock bottom in a big way, losing their families, friends, homes, jobs etc before they were offerred this treatment option, but to me their lives are still in the toilet...better than they were but not great by any means. YET, this is the hold that alcohol has on those of us who have a problem. As we know here, there are varying degrees, but it all leads to one thing...unhappiness in varying degrees and eventually it WILL kill us! sooner or later! and it most cases make us very sick until we die. The temporary escape & buzz is not worth it!
ON that note, have a happy, healthy AF day!!3 -
@FeelinFooFoo I will keep posting; it keeps me sane
I remember being his age and binging. I would not drink daily - just binge when I went out with friends. It may take awhile for him to learn, but in the meantime at least he has your guidance, empathy and awareness. I didn't have anyone to tell me " this is a problem when you binge or can't stop". I had to learn over and over again.
You had such a wonderful day at Fort William. I will have to look it up to see what it is all about.
My 19 year old daughter went camping this weekend; I packed a bunch of ibuprofen, tummy medicine and ginger ale for her just in case they were drinking. I didn't want her to feel sick. Sometimes, I am petrified thinking if either of my grown kids have my drinking issues. But I have told them several times about my issues; no beating around the bush. I told them just be aware that alcoholism runs in my Russian family.
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@RubyRed427, I will certainly share anything I think might be interesting or beneficial. Our 3 pre-course suggestions were to stock up on plenty of NA alternatives (check), get a journal (check), and take a selfie (Will do tomorrow morning when I’ll be Skyping with a student and thus wearing makeup). I’m looking forward to an adventure. Kate answered me personally when I had a question (clearly not a canned or surrogate response). I like the fact that the course members become a support network like this one. It’s not just content delivery.
Re: your comment that you wished you could be “normal,” I relate to that. On the other hand, I wonder how it can be normal to ingest alcohol on any kind of regular basis and “seem” unaffected. So many people do, but that creates a real cognitive dissonance with what I know to be true about alcohol. Oh well. I just need to tend my own garden.5 -
My middle son just turned 21 and Ive let him know to not start drinking. I cant control his decision but I can try to persuade him. Alcoholism is in the family. The others I dont worry. I know my oldest has a few here and there but theres something about my son that makes me worry. And Im sure to tell him. I never thought I would be an alcoholic. I say look what happened to me.
I dont know anyone else that just drinks normally. Normally meaning a day or 2 with one or two drinks. People that I know that drink drink every day and plenty of it. Does that label them alcoholics? Idk. My husband was trying to get me to drink this past weekend. I suppose he misses the old me to some extent. There is nothing Ive left behind that makes me want to go back not even the "closeness" we once shared. In fact I find him pitiful most days and wish somehow he would get that wakeup call. Especially after an article I read friday night on what alcohol does to your liver. Reading truthful articles like that still scare me.
♥ to you all
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Hi there ! Had a great workout with personal trainer. I can't imagine drinking the night before a session; I am so happy I didn't last night. Tonight, the neighbor across the street is coming over for dinner. I gave her a few basil plants and she would like to make me basil mozzarella flatbread. She is the one who told me she just got out of jail for 18 months for a third DUI. I asked her what wine does she like? So, I bought her a moscato; I do not like moscato so that won't be an issue, and she can take the bottle home.
I am a picky alcoholic. I have no inclination to drink something I don't like.
I watched two episodes of unsolved mysteries last night. That scared me. I had bad dreams and then I let my imagination get carried away and worried about having the new neighbor over. Of course, in the morning, I realized I am silly to think that way. BUT it is good to be cautious in new relationships/friendships.She says she is lonely and lives with a schizophrenic adult brother. She said she has no friends. Anyway..... her house is in foreclosure and she has no money, car or job due to the recent prison time.
I'm scared straight over here in the midwest! Her life is a nightmare, but I hope to give her a little bit of friendship. They say people cross paths with you to teach you something; I am sure I can learn a lot from her.5 -
@aroze0928 I have a 22 year old son and a 19 year old daughter. My daughter has anxiety (but is on meds) and I feel that that has been one of the reasons I turned to alcohol year ago. Anyway, I agree with you as a parent to tell our children the lessons we have learned and about the familial patterns of alcoholism/heavy drinking that run in our family.4
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June 16th I achieved 15 years of sobriety. Everything in my life has been better since I stopped.12
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@Carp614, That is awesome. Everything being better is what I'm looking forward to.
Day 1 of The Sober School class. Introductions from 125 women from all over the world. Interesting to realize how universally misery-making alcohol is. I never seem to stay off the alcohol long enough to get to the "good bits," as Kate calls it. Hoping this commitment to a solid 6 weeks will at least give me a glimpse of the good bits, enough to want to continue after that.6 -
Another sober Independence Day, check.
Hope everyone had a good one!
We had some young folks out on the boat drinking White Claw. Erg, even when I was drinking, I had my standards
I've noticed those nearest and dearest to me are drinking far less. I am not judging or saying anything, but I'm also no longer leading by (bad) example.
I found a hop-essenced seltzer that is awesome. It doesn't pretend to be beer but it gives me that hoppy happy that I've been missing in the warmer weather. Have not been motivated to find an alcohol-free beer substitute.
Just one more day.5 -
This book may have been mentioned here before, but if it was, I missed it. I'm reading "Mrs. D. Goes Without" by Lotta Dann. I'm finding it delightful and insightful. It's her account of mostly the process of quitting drinking, with just a little of her background, which is fairly tame. She was a drinker like many of us--keeping it together well with job, kids, etc., but drinking way too much. I've read a good bit of "Quit Lit," and I'm enjoying this light read very much. I bought the Kindle version after reading the almost unanimous 5-star reviews on Amazon.4
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