October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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@7lenny7 I’d either be one of the ones skulking in the Woods tonthe side, or I’d be barrelling through that left hand wheel track.
Having said that, there’s no knowing how deep that is or what the substrate is. Last time I barrelled through something it came up to mid-calf. But there was a stream half a mile on.
I did a race last year where the muddiest bit was at a gate entrance. Trouble was, this was usually a field full of horses and/or cows. It wasn’t just mud....4 -
I've been super busy guys, but I did pick up on a few things here!
Re: HM training/training in general
I tried C25K when I was starting and couldn't do it because it progressed too quickly for me. I switched to a John Bingham plan then. It got me to a 5k. Then I switched to Hal Higdon to get faster. Then did his 10k plan several times, and now the HM intermediate plan. I follow the plans pretty closely, but I don't taper as much as they say to.
Re: deficit while running/eating while running
I have been in a deficit the entire time I've been a runner. I've lost about 115 pounds. I feel fine so I keep doing what I do. I don't carb load or change my eating in any way prior to a race.
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
October Goal: 100 miles
10/1: planned rest day
10/2: 4.5 miles
10/3: 9 miles
10/4: 5.5 miles
10/5: 7 miles
10/6: cross train ditched for rest
10/7: 3 miles
10/8: planned rest
10/9: rest until cleared by NP
10/10: 10 miles
10/11: 7 miles
10/12: 5 miles
10/13: 4.5 miles
10/14: impromptu rest (was scheduled tomorrow)
10/15: 4.5 miles (yesterday's)
10/16: 8 miles
Total: 68 miles
UPCOMING RACES
November - 5 mile Bare Bones Turkey Trot (22nd)
December -
COMPLETED RACES
January - Frosty 5k
February - Run for the Chocolate 5k
March - Penguin in the Park 5k
April - Lake Sara Dam 5k
May - Run Through the Jungle 5k
June - French Fried 5k
July - Firecracker 5k
August - Happy Birthday to Me virtual 10k
September 7th - 5k Glow Run
October - Illinois Homecoming 5k10 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
10/01/18 :::: 5.0 :::: 5.0
10/02/18 :::: 4.2 :::: 9.2
10/03/18 :::: 7.1 :::: 16.3
10/04/18 :::: 3.7 :::: 20.0
10/05/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 20.0
10/06/18 :::: 20.0 :::: 40.0
10/07/18 :::: 5.0 :::: 45.0
10/08/18 :::: 4.5 :::: 49.6
10/09/18 :::: 5.1 :::: 54.7
10/10/18 :::: 5.9 :::: 60.6
10/11/18 :::: 4.0 :::: 64.6
10/12/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 64.6
10/13/18 :::: 15.0 :::: 79.6
10/14/18 :::: 2.8 :::: 82.4
10/15/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 85.4
10/16/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 88.4
I ran after work for another easy 3 miles. It felt a little chilly out at 50 degrees but the sun was out. I drove down to the bottom of the long hill by my office so I wouldn't have to run back up it, then looped around to get to 3. It felt good, and the pace felt easy but was faster than my runs have been lately. Maybe starting to feel a little recovery from cutting back on miles.
When I got home I discovered a tick on my side. Yikes, hoping no adverse reaction from it. It was definitely attached but I removed carefully and cleaned it (and saved the tick).7 -
@7lenny7 - actually now that you describe it, that makes sense. I'm definitely going to work on this.
@mbaker566 - so sorry life is tough right now. Wish I could say and/or do something to make it better. The dog - ADORABLE my goodness can those ears get any bigger?
@workaholic_nurse - SWEET!!!!!! I don't think I've ever scored anything that great at Goodwill!
June goal - 44/44
July goal - 52/52
August goal - 55/57 miles
Sept goal - 72/60 miles
Oct goal - 25/60 miles
Sept. 30 - Wineglass Half Marathon; Corning, NY
October 7 - Viking Dash Half Marathon; Toledo, OH
February 2 - Sedona Half5 -
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
Can't compete with the osteomyelitic foot with purulent drainage from the non-compliant diabetic I sent out to the hospital with sepsis last night.
ETA: he was a recent recipient of yet another foot revision, I think that was number 5 between the two.3 -
@juliet3455 - fantastic advice! I copied & pasted into a Word document so I don't lose it. Thanks.
@AprilRN10 - very impressive weight loss - you go girl.1 -
@avidkeo, my half is still 11 days out and I am eating all the things - not intentionally (I suspect it's hormonal). Normally, I would continue to eat at maintenance, but last time I ate a lot the week prior to an event I ran really, really well, and recovered well too. So, it works for me...5
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I've been super busy guys, but I did pick up on a few things here!
Re: HM training/training in general
I tried C25K when I was starting and couldn't do it because it progressed too quickly for me. I switched to a John Bingham plan then. It got me to a 5k. Then I switched to Hal Higdon to get faster. Then did his 10k plan several times, and now the HM intermediate plan. I follow the plans pretty closely, but I don't taper as much as they say to.
Re: deficit while running/eating while running
I have been in a deficit the entire time I've been a runner. I've lost about 115 pounds. I feel fine so I keep doing what I do. I don't carb load or change my eating in any way prior to a race.
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
Thanks for all that. Basically its a You Do You situation. love it, best way to be. I admit Ive attempted both the C25K and a bridge to 10k and never completed any of them. this plan I'm currently doing, I love because its working for me, slowly building up etc. will see when I complete the half.
Oh ouch elbows are never nice to injure. I would love to see pics, but I work in a hospital and am a complete trauma junkie lol1 -
@garygse, @kgirlhart, @amymoreorless - I have been thinking about you and any others in Texas with all the rain and flooding there!
For September we had 13.56 inches, last 14 days we've had 9. And yes, its supposed to rain again today.
Just to compare, last year we had 1.28 inches in September and 2.13 in October.
Just getting you ready for January in Hilo!!
Good that i dont mind the rain then!!4 -
October Running Totals (miles)
10/1 – rest day
10/2 – 3.03 recovery run
10/3 – 5.04 group run
10/4 – 4.97 warm up, 2 miles @T, cool down
10/5 – rest day
10/6 – 8.90 paced run
10/7 – 6.45 warmup + 6K XC race
10/8 – rest day
10/9 – 5.01 warmup + easy XC workout
10/10 – 5.10 group run
10/11 – 6.63 easy/tempo/easy
10/12 – rest day
10/13 – 11.52 warmup + Finish Strong 15K
10/14 – 8.46 bandit run for Dennis
10/15 – rest day
10/16 – 7.02 warmup, XC workout, cool down
October running total to date – 72.13
Nominal October mileage goal: 150 miles
Real Goals: Recover well from Wineglass. Avoid reinjury. Build volume only to the extent consistent with recovery and injury avoidance.
Today's notes – Last week of XC practice in local parks, it's just getting dark too early. Next week we go to a track with lights.
Great running weather this evening, about 52º F (11º C) and low humidity. Ran the 2 mile warmup solo, and the assignment was intervals of 800, 1000, 1000, 800, with 2 minutes recovery, then 4 x 100m strides. I wasn't very motivated, so set out pacing off a guy whose interval pace is more like my threshold pace. Then on the first 1000, I got feeling better and stepped up to interval effort part way through. Ran the next 1000 and 800 at honest interval effort, and doing the strides on grass felt really natural. I would have bagged it there, but the group set out for a cooldown around the big block, and I figured I could do most of it with them and get back to my car partway through. So I did that, had a nice chat with some folks, and came home to stretch and shower.
It's wonderful to be able to do a workout and not be drowning in sweat afterwards. I'm really loving the autumn weather, if not the autumn lack of evening light.
2018 races:
February 17, 2018 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 54:48
February 24, 2018 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:46
March 17, 2018 USATF Masters 8K (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 31:55
March 24, 2018 Spring Forward 15K (Mendon, NY) ran at MP, finished in 1:10:47
April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:28:43
April 29, 2018 USATF Masters 10K (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 41:33
May 20, 2018 Lilac 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 42:21
May 26, 2018 Sunset House 5K (Rochester, NY) finished in 20:12
June 3, 2018 USATF Masters Half Marathon (Ann Arbor, MI) finished in 1:34:42
June 9, 2018 Ontario Summit Trail Half Marathon (Naples, NY) DNS - injury
June 17, 2018 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) short course, 18:04 for ~2.9 miles
June 30, 2018 Charlie's Old Goat Trail Run 5 mile (Victor, NY) 4.89 miles by Garmin, 43:15
July 14, 2018 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:45:54
July 28, 2018 Battle at Bristol 10K (Naples, NY) survived in 1:28:33
August 1, 2018 IEXC 5K #1 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:17
August 8, 2018 IEXC 5K #2 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:10
August 15, 2018 Pound the Ground 10K (Mendon, NY) finished in 43:11
August 22, 2018 IEXC 5K #3 (Rochester, NY) finished in 21:59
August 29, 2018 IEXC 5K #4 (Rochester NY) finished in 22:00
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 1 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 6:07
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 400m (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:14
September 2, 2018 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:36:41
September 9, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #1 5K (Newark, NY) 2.9 miles finished in 20:50.9
September 23, 2018 USATF Masters XC 5K (Buffalo, NY) finished in 20:03
September 30, 2018 Wineglass Marathon (Bath, NY to Corning, NY) finished in 3:18:02, PR with negative splits
October 7, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #2 6K (Akron Falls, NY) finished in 24:41
October 13, 2018 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) finished in 1:03:27
October 21, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #3 6K (Mendon, NY)
November 4, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #4 6K (Trumansburg, NY)
November 11, 2018 Syracuse Half Marathon (Syracuse, NY)
November 18, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #5 6K (Syracuse, NY)
November 22, 2018 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
2019 Races:
January 5, 2019 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
April 15, 2019 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA to Boston, MA)
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Another breezy run during soccer practice, but thankfully it was warmer than yesterday. It was 55F and 17 mph, so felt a bit chilly at the start with the wind. Once I was away from the fields and onto the trail, the trees did a nice job blocking the wind. Plan called for 3, but decided to do 5 tonight as it was either spend the time waiting in the car or standing around until practice was done. The weather might be cooler tomorrow so gives me a little bit of flexibility.
10/3 - 5 miles
10/5 - 5 miles
10/7 - 9 miles
10/9 - 5 miles
10/10- 3 miles
10/11 - 1 mile & 10 min of rowing
10/13 - Run for the Hill 5k
10/15 - 5 miles
10/16 - 5 miles
41 miles total/ 75 goal7 -
w6d1 of c230min/c25k completed with 3.69km as the final distance. I was able to make my route slightly longer and finish with less than 100m extra. I think if I try super hard there won't be much of a difference between 5km and 30 minutes.
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Today I got to run 6.32 windy but sunny miles. It was a pretty good day, even if it’s now two days in a row that I haven’t been able to bill more than an hour or so. So much mortgage stuff, blech. I think we might be getting there, though. I seriously hope I never have to do this again, though.
My Captain Marvel shirt from iGlow arrived yesterday so I wore it out today, but unfortunately it chafes under one arm. I’m trying to decide if I want to contact the seller to try and do something about it, but I’m kind of exhausted with everything right now so I’m going to sit on it for a few days. I’d really wanted to wear it to the half this weekend, but that’s why you don’t wear new things on race day.
I’ve been in and out of a deficit for two years. I had a couple of months earlier in the year when I had to figure out how to balance running and dieting, but it’s back to being pretty comfortable now. Before my last half I ate steak and potatoes with a glass of red wine and two glasses of hard cider, and that went well enough that I had the same meal before my last 10K and will probably have it again on Saturday before the next half. Not because I’m superstitious, but because it’s a delicious meal and I feel totally justified eating to maintenance the day before a race.
Of course after the last half it took me 2-3 days before I stopped feeling like I needed to eat all of the things, which kind of surprised me, so this time I’ve planned for that as well. It all comes out in the wash if you watch your numbers. I don’t really track carbs in any case - I just try to eat a variety of foods in moderation, keep to a modest deficit, and eat at maintenance once a week or so.
As of today I’m down 58 pounds from a high of 208 in 2016, with only the one brief regain of 5-10 pounds earlier this year. I went into this process trying to do everything I could to only have to do this once, and I've felt good about it so far, and I've kept that first 30 pounds off for a year now, which is pretty awesome. 150 is technically still overweight as I’m only 5’2”, but I feel great and although I’m still giving a shot at getting to a “normal” BMI, I’m pretty happy with where I am now.
OCTOBER MILES:
10/1 Mo - rest
10/2 Tu - 1:11:20 - 6.54 meandering and cold
10/3 We - 0:20:06 - 1.94 zippy after lifting
10/4 Th - 0:45:37 - 4.33 medium effort
10/5 Fr - rest
10/6 Sa - Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K - Chip time: 1:05:14
10/7 Su - “rest” volunteering at TCM gear check
10/8 Mo - rest
10/9 Tu - 1:09:53 - 6.54 improving my cold weather game
10/10 We - 0:40:00 - 3.60 numbers approximate (workout accidentally turned off)
10/11 Th - rest
10/12 Fr - 0:56:36 - 5.20 medium effort sort of painful
10/13 Sa - rest
10/14 Su - 1:56:06 - 10.04
10/15 Mo - rest
10/16 Tu - 1:06:06 - 6.32
October Total: 50.85/85 miles
Races! (italics under consideration)
July 4: Red, White and Boom! 5K Chip time: 0:32:20
August 25: Glo Run Night Race 5K Chip time: 0:30:40
September 8: Helen Gold 10K DNS - trip postponed
September 9: City of Lakes Half Marathon Net time: 2:28:25
October 6: Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K Chip time: 1:05:14
October 21: Mankato Half Marathon
November 24: Mustache Run 10K
December 8: Reindeer Run 10K or 15K (leaning 15K)
January 5: Polar Dash 10K
January 26: Securian 10K
May - August: Endless Summer Trail Running Series
July 17: Torchlight 5K
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I eat 50% carbs anyway, and for Sunday's marathon I couldn't "load" any more than that, and I had enough energy.
The important part is to load in the morning a couple of hours before your run, because your liver glycogen (energy for running) gets mostly used up during sleep.
@7lenny7 gave good info about how you need to intake carbs before and during a HM, and how you can never replace as much energy as you'll need but you'll feel less crap instead of hitting the wall hard.
If you eat good carbs a couple of hours beforehand, you can top up your glycogen fully. Leaving it later means you can't process it in time before you start burning it again.5 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »My Captain Marvel shirt from iGlow arrived yesterday so I wore it out today, but unfortunately it chafes under one arm. I’m trying to decide if I want to contact the seller to try and do something about it, but I’m kind of exhausted with everything right now so I’m going to sit on it for a few days. I’d really wanted to wear it to the half this weekend, but that’s why you don’t wear new things on race day.
You can use Body Glide to stop that. Just cover the place liberally with Body Glide before your run and it will not chaff. You can use a stick deodorant in a pinch I am told, but I have not tested that myself. You should be able to find Body Glide at your local running stores, if not Amazon carries it:
Body Glide On Amazon
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This morning I signed up for my first destination race. The Tillamook Burn 50 Mile in the Pacific NW rainforest about an hour northwest of Portland, OR. You can scroll through some amazing photos here.
I was trying to decide between the 50K and the 50M. The 50K has 7000' of vertical (ascent & descent) whereas the 50M has 8700', the difference being 1700' over 19 miles, which is fairly flat, so for the extra runable miles, why not! I am so dang excited about this! My sister and her husband live just outside of Portland so we'll stay with them and maybe I'll even talk them into crewing for me.
The race is the end of April which, incidentally, is just 2 weeks after the Zumbro 50, the race I DNF'd earlier this year.
@7lenny7 That sounds amazing. Love destination races.
Your photos from your last run were so beautiful. The yellows!!!0 -
The doctor I saw about my marathon "episode" said she didn’t think it was exercise-induced asthma / bronchioconstriction, as it doesn’t hit you this late in life. It sounded more like just one of those things in marathons when you push your body to its limits. High heart rate spike (195 BPM), needing lots of oxygen, hot conditions, no shade. She said to just see if it happens again on a 30ish km run in the cool, and if so, she'd refer me to a sports clinic.
But a once-off like this sounded like my body's fairly normal reaction to tough conditions at the time. If it was asthma, I wouldn't have breathed easier after walking a minute or two.7 -
I eat 50% carbs anyway, and for Sunday's marathon I couldn't "load" any more than that, and I had enough energy.
The important part is to load in the morning a couple of hours before your run, because your liver glycogen (energy for running) gets mostly used up during sleep.
@7lenny7 gave good info about how you need to intake carbs before and during a HM, and how you can never replace as much energy as you'll need but you'll feel less crap instead of hitting the wall hard.
If you eat good carbs a couple of hours beforehand, you can top up your glycogen fully. Leaving it later means you can't process it in time before you start burning it again.
Thanks @Orphia that makes sense. i think Ill follow that advice the most. I'm not doing it to compete anyway, just to complete. How did your Dr's appt go, if I can ask? ETA ah we cross posted! Good news. I dont know about late in life, I got diagnosed at 34... though I can see her point about the conditions. Mine does usually kick in within about 5-10 minutes. Hopefully its a one off2 -
10/1 - rest day, short walk + PT exercises
10/2 - 4.22 km run/walk intervals
10/3 to 10/6 - rest
10/7 - 5.72 km
10/8 to 10/13 - more rest
10/14 - 3.37 km run/walk intervals
10/15 - rest
10/16 - 3.01 km run/walk intervals
16.32/?? km
I guess I'm still trying to figure out my limits. 3km today and I think it was just a hair too much. I have some good data from tonight's run that I can use to figure out distance on Thursday as my pace dropped noticeably.
2018 Races: (italics means not registered yet, only pondering)
1/1/18 Resolution Run 5K ~38:00 (no official times)
3/4/18 MEC Road Race #1 10K 1:30:57
3/17/28 St Patrick's Day race 10K 1:24:53
4/7/18 Jasper Half Marathon 3:05:55
4/22/18 MEC Trail Race #1 5Kish 1:00:00? (Or 48:45...)
5/20/18 MEC Trail Race #2 10Kish 1:56:15
6/24/18 MEC Trail Race #3 10Kish 2:03:15
7/1/18 Canada Day 15K 2:03:04
7/28/18 Idaho Peak 10K Trail Race 1:30:16
8/18/18 Edmonton Marathon (Half Marathon) 3:12:something
8/25/18 MEC Trail Race #4 4Kish 39:49
10/7/18 MEC Trail Race #5 5Kish 1:02:11
12/1/18 Santa Shuffle
2019:
1/1/19 Resolution Run
5/5/19 BMO Vancouver Marathon (Half)
8/17/19 Edmonton Marathon
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October goal: a 10k at least once a week
10/1 3.13
10/2 rest
10/3 3.20
10/4 other stuff
10/5 6.30
10/6 2.25
10/7 core training
10/8 3.31
10/9 3.05
10/10 6.26
10/11 rest
10/12 core training
10/13 7.12 relay for @keeprunningfatboy
10/14 rest
10/15 rest
10/16 3.00
Total 38.82
Upcoming races:
Nov. 11, 2018 Las Vegas Rock 'n Roll 10k
January 4, 2019 Hilo to Volcano Ultra 50k Relay. In memory of @keeprunningfatboy
Ticker is my goal for 2018 and progress to date:
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