October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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workaholic_nurse wrote: »
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
Can't compete with the osteomyelitic foot with purulent drainage from the non-compliant diabetic I sent out to the hospital with sepsis last night.
ETA: he was a recent recipient of yet another foot revision, I think that was number 5 between the two.
Nope can't and don't want to compete with that!2 -
biketheworld wrote: »@juliet3455 - fantastic advice! I copied & pasted into a Word document so I don't lose it. Thanks.
@AprilRN10 - very impressive weight loss - you go girl.
Thanks! I'm getting close to goal and not much focussed on it anymore!2 -
I've been super busy guys, but I did pick up on a few things here!
Re: HM training/training in general
I tried C25K when I was starting and couldn't do it because it progressed too quickly for me. I switched to a John Bingham plan then. It got me to a 5k. Then I switched to Hal Higdon to get faster. Then did his 10k plan several times, and now the HM intermediate plan. I follow the plans pretty closely, but I don't taper as much as they say to.
Re: deficit while running/eating while running
I have been in a deficit the entire time I've been a runner. I've lost about 115 pounds. I feel fine so I keep doing what I do. I don't carb load or change my eating in any way prior to a race.
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
Thanks for all that. Basically its a You Do You situation. love it, best way to be. I admit Ive attempted both the C25K and a bridge to 10k and never completed any of them. this plan I'm currently doing, I love because its working for me, slowly building up etc. will see when I complete the half.
Oh ouch elbows are never nice to injure. I would love to see pics, but I work in a hospital and am a complete trauma junkie lol
I know, right! I thought you and @workaholic_nurse would want to see! I always document my injuries. Ha!2 -
No running still today. Went out for a 30 minute ride and only had to stop to cough uncontrollably twice. I think I'm ready to try running again!
Just remembered that I need to pick up my bib this weekend for the upcoming trail race which is 10 days off. Looked at the course details again. 10 hours cut-off for 30km with 1900 meters of elevation gain. Seems quite generous on paper. I guess my goal will be finish race and not die.
Re: carb loading. I suppose it works differently for everyone, but in my very limited experience, eating carbs the night before a race has been quite effective energy-wise after 30km. But then again I gain weight like a loaded truck during race weekends...
Re: mud. @7lenny7 I'd probably do the same, since everyone's going to be muddy by the end of the race!workaholic_nurse wrote: »
As for today's run, I fell and have a nasty elbow as a trophy. I took a pic, but didn't think most of you here would care to see it!
Can't compete with the osteomyelitic foot with purulent drainage from the non-compliant diabetic I sent out to the hospital with sepsis last night.
ETA: he was a recent recipient of yet another foot revision, I think that was number 5 between the two.
There is no such thing as TMI in this thread7 -
Winter just began where I live and the weather is simply fantastic. I did a 4-mile walk tonight and it felt great releasing those endorphins.
I very much prefer the daytime, so I'll make sure to get in my workout early in the morning tomorrow.
10/16 - 4.14 Miles8 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Question regarding nutrition. I've been doing a calorie deficit for the last (forever) few months to get back on track, and I'm within a kg of my lowest weight (almost 23kg/48lb lost since Jan 2017). But I'm thinking with the amount of ks I'm now doing, and my focus for the next 4 weeks is HM prep, I've been doing a bit of reading. The idea around deficit seems to be mixed, some saying a small deficit is ok, some saying eat maintenance. What are ya'alls thoughts (is that the right usage lol). My ultimate aim for my weight is to lose another 4kg (around 8lb) but my not stressed about it, I'd rather run a good HM
@Avidkeo it depends on which goal is more important. For me, I want to go into a big race feeling my best and that means eating at maintenance for 2 or 3 week prior to the race. If it's a race that's not a big deal to me I'll stay at a deficit until a few days before the race.
After the race, either way, stay at maintenance for several days while you recover. Then go back to a deficit.
Great job getting nearly back to your lowest! After a summer of gluttony I'm trying to get back on track myself and unfortunately have 13 pounds to go to reach my lowest, and 16 to go for my goal, but I'm rededicating myself to the effort as of yesterday.
Yeah, as always the answer "it depends" is always the right one.
There are those that say being lighter on race day means you will run faster. There is this whole concept of "ideal race weight" which, if you are dieting, I am going to guess you are over. Given that some would tell you to eat at a loss so that you can have a good weight at the start. *shrugs*, in this case, do whatever feels right to you.
Lol I very much doubt the 1kg (2lb) I would lose in the next month will make that much of a difference to my race day pace. That said, i was reading about carb loading and the writer kept referring to an average runner of 150lb. I had to google what my current weight is in pounds, and its 149lb!!!!! whooo hooo lol. Does that make me an average runner then, even though I'm short (5'3")?
Yeah this race means a lot to me, I've been building toward it for a whole year, it is my year goal and the culmination of slow and steady build up, following an actual training plan and goofing off with you guys, so race beats weight loss. Besides, I'm so close to ideal weight I almost don't care, happy to lose it if/when it comes off. This weight feels pretty good. So Race first!
extending the topic, who carb loads before a half? worth it or not really? I'm thinking of doing it 2 days before the 20k run in 2 weeks, see how that goes, and then tweak for the half. or waste of time?
Since I just did my first 13 mile run, I'm not exactly an expert but I do get to see under the hood as it were through blood glucose testing, so I thought you might be interested in my observations. I usually eat a big carby oatmeal breakfast the day of, an orange shortly before, and skip any glycogen-depleting activity such as heavy lifting the day before, when I'm planning to run hard. For this run I did all of that and also brought along some gummies which are 24 carbs per serving of three. I ended up eating three gummies, two at the six mile mark, and one at the ten mile mark when I started to feel bonky, and felt just fine, like I had fueled exactly right for me.
Then I ate 3300 calories between then and bed, no lie, and my blood glucose never went above 100. Kept waking up all night feeling starving. And I ate a whole lotta carbs the next day and my blood glucose levels dropped as fast as I could eat. This lasted three days before it wore off. So my observation as a diabetic would be, no real need to carb load per se, as long as you don't actually deplete your carbs ahead of time so you have a normal full supply in your muscles and liver, and bring a little fuel for hours two and three (if you run more than two hours.) My body, at least, was happy to wait to strip carbs until after the run was over!6 -
biketheworld wrote: »@juliet3455 - fantastic advice! I copied & pasted into a Word document so I don't lose it. Thanks.
I can't really take credit for it - all I did was pass on info/knowledge/ideas/advice?? that others have passed on to me and other runners - usually over post run/race coffee, and it was just an extension of the comments from @7lenny7 . As one runner in GP said ( English is not her birth language) Threw yourself down the Hill and paddle like mad.Re: carb loading. I suppose it works differently for everyone,///
Re: mud. @7lenny7 I'd probably do the same, since everyone's going to be muddy by the end of the race!
@noblsheep Well said. If your doing a trail race and have no mud/dirt splotch's on you at the end - must have been a desert race. Besides that the only way you can win one of the Mud Master - Mud Monster door prizes is to get dirty.
A little 5km jaunt along the riverbank trails after Adult swim club. My legs were tired and heavy after a hard set of Backstroke drills - lots of kicking.
All of our River Valley Trails have been cut multiple places due to road-bridge construction so it is hard to piece together a long run without getting detoured around the construction activities. Tonight they had the Trail and Road blocked as they were unloading supplies off Transport Trucks using the 2 big cranes they have here. So I turned and headed home since I didn't feel like doing multiple 2 km loops to add distance.9 -
October 1 - Holidays
October 2 - Holidays
October 3 - Holidays
October 4 - Holidays
October 5 - Holidays
October 6 - Holidays
October 7 - Holidays
October 8 - 5 km run in Destin, Florida
October 9 - Traveling home
October 10 - Traveling home
October 15 - 14 km run
October 16 - 14 km run
October 17 - 14 km run
Total distance run 47 km - goal 140 km.
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The doctor I saw about my marathon "episode" said she didn’t think it was exercise-induced asthma / bronchioconstriction, as it doesn’t hit you this late in life. It sounded more like just one of those things in marathons when you push your body to its limits. High heart rate spike (195 BPM), needing lots of oxygen, hot conditions, no shade. She said to just see if it happens again on a 30ish km run in the cool, and if so, she'd refer me to a sports clinic.
But a once-off like this sounded like my body's fairly normal reaction to tough conditions at the time. If it was asthma, I wouldn't have breathed easier after walking a minute or two.
Both my husband and father first developed exercise induced asthma in their late 40's. That doesn't mean that's what happened to you, but it can and does happen.2 -
5 miles, started on trails but ran out of daylight and finished on pavement. I wish I enjoyed running in rain! It was 48 degrees and raining, and although I quite enjoyed the run mentally every moment was physically clammy and miserable. We had the park to ourselves, not one other person was out there.
Those who enjoy running in cold rain, what do you wear? I find rain gear makes me uncomfortable and anything else gets wet and lets the cold through. My feet also get shredded if my shoes get wet, despite official non-blistering socks.
Highlight of this run was running along the edge of an open field in near total darkness, talking about the unfamiliar squealing and barking noises we kept hearing, and then when our eyes adjusted we suddenly realized we were right next to a large herd of grazing deer. Like, within ten feet, no fence. Since deer sometimes attack people it was a tiny bit alarming. I think the deer were conversing amongst themselves, something like this: "What are those humans doing?" "No idea, I think they're not quite right in the head." "Shh, stay quiet and pretend you don't see them!"8 -
@MegaMooseEsq - could you wear another top underneath of your Captain Marvel shirt to prevent the chafing and provide some extra warmth if needed?3
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PastorVincent wrote: »I eat a bit more complex carbs the week before to top off. i will say having only done halves that i have felt the difference when i do and when i don't. but i'm also eating at a deficit most of the time. the week of i eat at maintenance.
this doesn't count as carb loading?
Yes, it also counts as "recovery food" in my book.
That looks like an entire day's allotment of calories to me... although that wouldn't necessarily stop me if I wanted it.
On carb loading: I might eat a slight bigger meal the night before, but try not to overdo it.
On the 16 or 19.3k vs. 20k friendly debate: @PastorVincent I think you're forgetting what it's like to be a beginner. An extra TWO TIMES around a track could be a LOT if you've just run 19.3k for the first time ever in your life. Of course, if you've got it in you or want the extra challenge, by all means go for it - I have done this myself. But in this case we're talking to a first-timer who (I think) had mentioned that the runs on the Novice Hal Higdon plan were already feeling difficult, and I wanted to reassure them that it is perfectly acceptable to just trust the plan. I also understand that they might change their mind at the end of the run and take off around the block again to round up to the next kilometer, but I don't want people feeling like they HAVE to in order to be able to cover the distance on race day.
It's staying darker longer in the morning. Today I was about 10 minutes too early on the unlit tractor path through the field (and my flashy armband light doesn't really work as a flashlight) so I had to slow down trying to see where I was going. The rest of the route had streetlights and it did get light before I got home, but I'm going to have to adjust my route. Sigh. I'm feeling great, though!
10/1-7 Totals: bike 20.4 km, run 15 km
10/8-14 Totals: bike 10.3 km, run 24.9 km
10/15 - bike 19.5k, run 6k
10/16 - rest
10/17 - run 6.1k
10/18 -
10/19 -
10/20 -
10/21 -
Upcoming races:
October 20: City Trail 5k
November 11: City Trail 5k
December 8: City Trail 5k
January 12: City Trail 5k
February 2-3: Lublin night 10k
February 16: City Trail 5k
March 23: City Trail 5k
April 7: Lublin 10k (maybe)
May 12: Lublin Marathon
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This is not my photo, but from someone I know. This is the mud on the course during my race last weekend, where folks were going around it as I splashed through it. Now doesn't that looks like a whole lotta fun!?!
Looks like fun!
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
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rheddmobile wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Question regarding nutrition. I've been doing a calorie deficit for the last (forever) few months to get back on track, and I'm within a kg of my lowest weight (almost 23kg/48lb lost since Jan 2017). But I'm thinking with the amount of ks I'm now doing, and my focus for the next 4 weeks is HM prep, I've been doing a bit of reading. The idea around deficit seems to be mixed, some saying a small deficit is ok, some saying eat maintenance. What are ya'alls thoughts (is that the right usage lol). My ultimate aim for my weight is to lose another 4kg (around 8lb) but my not stressed about it, I'd rather run a good HM
@Avidkeo it depends on which goal is more important. For me, I want to go into a big race feeling my best and that means eating at maintenance for 2 or 3 week prior to the race. If it's a race that's not a big deal to me I'll stay at a deficit until a few days before the race.
After the race, either way, stay at maintenance for several days while you recover. Then go back to a deficit.
Great job getting nearly back to your lowest! After a summer of gluttony I'm trying to get back on track myself and unfortunately have 13 pounds to go to reach my lowest, and 16 to go for my goal, but I'm rededicating myself to the effort as of yesterday.
Yeah, as always the answer "it depends" is always the right one.
There are those that say being lighter on race day means you will run faster. There is this whole concept of "ideal race weight" which, if you are dieting, I am going to guess you are over. Given that some would tell you to eat at a loss so that you can have a good weight at the start. *shrugs*, in this case, do whatever feels right to you.
Lol I very much doubt the 1kg (2lb) I would lose in the next month will make that much of a difference to my race day pace. That said, i was reading about carb loading and the writer kept referring to an average runner of 150lb. I had to google what my current weight is in pounds, and its 149lb!!!!! whooo hooo lol. Does that make me an average runner then, even though I'm short (5'3")?
Yeah this race means a lot to me, I've been building toward it for a whole year, it is my year goal and the culmination of slow and steady build up, following an actual training plan and goofing off with you guys, so race beats weight loss. Besides, I'm so close to ideal weight I almost don't care, happy to lose it if/when it comes off. This weight feels pretty good. So Race first!
extending the topic, who carb loads before a half? worth it or not really? I'm thinking of doing it 2 days before the 20k run in 2 weeks, see how that goes, and then tweak for the half. or waste of time?
Since I just did my first 13 mile run, I'm not exactly an expert but I do get to see under the hood as it were through blood glucose testing, so I thought you might be interested in my observations. I usually eat a big carby oatmeal breakfast the day of, an orange shortly before, and skip any glycogen-depleting activity such as heavy lifting the day before, when I'm planning to run hard. For this run I did all of that and also brought along some gummies which are 24 carbs per serving of three. I ended up eating three gummies, two at the six mile mark, and one at the ten mile mark when I started to feel bonky, and felt just fine, like I had fueled exactly right for me.
Then I ate 3300 calories between then and bed, no lie, and my blood glucose never went above 100. Kept waking up all night feeling starving. And I ate a whole lotta carbs the next day and my blood glucose levels dropped as fast as I could eat. This lasted three days before it wore off. So my observation as a diabetic would be, no real need to carb load per se, as long as you don't actually deplete your carbs ahead of time so you have a normal full supply in your muscles and liver, and bring a little fuel for hours two and three (if you run more than two hours.) My body, at least, was happy to wait to strip carbs until after the run was over!
Wow that's really fascinating! I love numbers and "experiments" and that's a neat one. Interesting what happened over the next few days! And kind of a relief. I remember not being hungry for several hrs after my 14k run, but being ravenous when it kicked in!
It soulike I'm probably on the right track then, and I don't need to do much different, yay!3 -
Just goes to show how much of a mental game running is for me, Wednesdays are short/easy/recovery run days for me and this morning's 3km, although done at my usual pace and without any walk breaks, felt ok. Except, I was kind of cold at first, maybe it's time to start covering up a little more. I do get some funny looks when I'm setting off in my shorts and T-shirt and all the high school kids on their way to class are in long trousers, sweatshirts and even some winter jackets. It does warm up a lot as soon as the sun comes up though.
Slightly sore ankle again afterwards. I think I'm going to have to stop being stubborn and admit that running 3 days in a row is too much for me. Going to swap Thursday's run and Friday's rest day around, that should do it.
2/10: 6km
3/10: 3km
4/10: 6km
7/10: 8.5km
9/10: 6.5km
10/10: 3km
11/10: 6km
14/10: 9km
16/10: 6.5km
17/10: 3km
October goal: 90km, stretch goal: 105km. Completed so far: 57.5km.
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
I read an article about a guy with a missing leg, which mentioned that some insurance companies decide how good a leg you get based on your previous level of activity, and because the guy in the article had been a marathon runner, he qualified for an especially good leg!5 -
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So, bah, I have to fess up. I should NOT have had the homefries at that dinner on Sunday. Pretty sure that was the gluten source. I figured they would be risky, but ordered them anyways. Idiot.
Today is only 3 days out, so might have to skip tonight's run too. Those that deal with this know the importance of a nearby toilet. *sigh* I was planning to try an ignore it and run this week as normal, but dang it, these kinds of issues are very hard to ignore.
*grumble*
I did, however, put my cold running gear in my bag in case things work out, or rather stop working their way out.
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