October 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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@143tobe That is soo awesome that your husband is so enthused!
BTW, your race photos are excellent also!1 -
girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Nike's new ad, dedicated to the back of the pack, worth a watch:
this may not be the effect that Nike wanted, but all I take from that ad is 'what disgusting human beings who think littering is suddenly okay because they are in a race and someone else is going to clean up after us' #runclean #carrymyown
If I stop, I usually try to put it available cans. Usually though they put the cans right next to the station and most people grab and keep moving. If I can't get it in the can I try to get it to the side of the road. I've slipped and seen others slip on cups and wrappers before.
Yeah, the need to have the cans spread out in a line after the water just like they have the cups spread out for picking up. One or two races I have been in have done that and there was much less mess.
It still all ends up in a landfill though, unless the race at least uses recyclable and recycles.
this is the problem for me (along with the mentality it breeds). I guess because I only run trail races, it's ingrained in me not to drop litter (most trail races disqualify you for that anyway). The more we can do to reduce the actual single-use litter the better, and that really does need a mentality shift.
At a recent Half Marathon road race near me, the problem was two-fold. Firstly it's plastic (well done Nike on showing paper cups), and secondly the bottles were all still half-full as they were thrown to the side (water should be considered a precious resource, there are people who do not have access to water and we'd do well to remember that). Also the gel station - I can forgive the plastic bottles, but gel wrappers? No, I can't forgive that. I don't care if it is sticky as you put it into your pocket, it's not like you aren't about to wash that item of clothing after a race.
Many races out this way (Western US) including the northwest where Nike is headquartered, use compostable 'paper' cups now. The race I was at in Boise did. Although I still made the effort to put them in the bins that were too close to the tables. It was also a pretty small race too with only about 500 runners total across the full and half.1 -
girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Nike's new ad, dedicated to the back of the pack, worth a watch:
this may not be the effect that Nike wanted, but all I take from that ad is 'what disgusting human beings who think littering is suddenly okay because they are in a race and someone else is going to clean up after us' #runclean #carrymyown
If I stop, I usually try to put it available cans. Usually though they put the cans right next to the station and most people grab and keep moving. If I can't get it in the can I try to get it to the side of the road. I've slipped and seen others slip on cups and wrappers before.
Yeah, the need to have the cans spread out in a line after the water just like they have the cups spread out for picking up. One or two races I have been in have done that and there was much less mess.
It still all ends up in a landfill though, unless the race at least uses recyclable and recycles.
this is the problem for me (along with the mentality it breeds). I guess because I only run trail races, it's ingrained in me not to drop litter (most trail races disqualify you for that anyway). The more we can do to reduce the actual single-use litter the better, and that really does need a mentality shift.
At a recent Half Marathon road race near me, the problem was two-fold. Firstly it's plastic (well done Nike on showing paper cups), and secondly the bottles were all still half-full as they were thrown to the side (water should be considered a precious resource, there are people who do not have access to water and we'd do well to remember that). Also the gel station - I can forgive the plastic bottles, but gel wrappers? No, I can't forgive that. I don't care if it is sticky as you put it into your pocket, it's not like you aren't about to wash that item of clothing after a race.
Many races out this way (Western US) including the northwest where Nike is headquartered, use compostable 'paper' cups now. The race I was at in Boise did. Although I still made the effort to put them in the bins that were too close to the tables. It was also a pretty small race too with only about 500 runners total across the full and half.
Here in southern Spain the only thing they've used in any of the races I've run were plastic bottles, and yes the marathon/HM course particularly was absolutely disgusting with piles of empties after stations by the time I got to them. Being back of the pack and with the sole target of avoiding the sweeper wagon, I have no problem at all with adding a few more metres to approach a bin and throw my empty bottle in it. Then again, I always run with at least one bottle if not more so also have no problem hanging onto it until I can dispose of it properly. Guess those extra few grams of empty plastic would ruin my race time if I was trying for time though.
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eleanorhawkins wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Nike's new ad, dedicated to the back of the pack, worth a watch:
this may not be the effect that Nike wanted, but all I take from that ad is 'what disgusting human beings who think littering is suddenly okay because they are in a race and someone else is going to clean up after us' #runclean #carrymyown
If I stop, I usually try to put it available cans. Usually though they put the cans right next to the station and most people grab and keep moving. If I can't get it in the can I try to get it to the side of the road. I've slipped and seen others slip on cups and wrappers before.
Yeah, the need to have the cans spread out in a line after the water just like they have the cups spread out for picking up. One or two races I have been in have done that and there was much less mess.
It still all ends up in a landfill though, unless the race at least uses recyclable and recycles.
this is the problem for me (along with the mentality it breeds). I guess because I only run trail races, it's ingrained in me not to drop litter (most trail races disqualify you for that anyway). The more we can do to reduce the actual single-use litter the better, and that really does need a mentality shift.
At a recent Half Marathon road race near me, the problem was two-fold. Firstly it's plastic (well done Nike on showing paper cups), and secondly the bottles were all still half-full as they were thrown to the side (water should be considered a precious resource, there are people who do not have access to water and we'd do well to remember that). Also the gel station - I can forgive the plastic bottles, but gel wrappers? No, I can't forgive that. I don't care if it is sticky as you put it into your pocket, it's not like you aren't about to wash that item of clothing after a race.
Many races out this way (Western US) including the northwest where Nike is headquartered, use compostable 'paper' cups now. The race I was at in Boise did. Although I still made the effort to put them in the bins that were too close to the tables. It was also a pretty small race too with only about 500 runners total across the full and half.
Here in southern Spain the only thing they've used in any of the races I've run were plastic bottles, and yes the marathon/HM course particularly was absolutely disgusting with piles of empties after stations by the time I got to them. Being back of the pack and with the sole target of avoiding the sweeper wagon, I have no problem at all with adding a few more metres to approach a bin and throw my empty bottle in it. Then again, I always run with at least one bottle if not more so also have no problem hanging onto it until I can dispose of it properly. Guess those extra few grams of empty plastic would ruin my race time if I was trying for time though.
Yup, compostable cups seem to be the way we're heading here for road runs, collapsable for trail. Never seen a race with plastic bottles (thank god) in the 12 years I've been doing events.
Rules here seem to be, for road running: grab cup, don't stop (certainly for the front quarter of the pack (for the rest it seems to be stop right in the wrong place so the person behind you collides with you), drink, toss towards bin, if you goes in, great, if not, there are a million volunteers who are there specifically to pick up cups. For trail it seems to be: stop at water stops, fill cup, have a chat with the marshalls, eat a few jelly beans, put cup away, carry on. Or, if you're me, carry your own water and don't ever stop (too many years as a road runner methinks).5 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Nike's new ad, dedicated to the back of the pack, worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8WAYF5_NEM
Nike are pretty good at their marketing.0 -
Went to bed Friday evening saying I would do that night's run Saturday morning with no intention whatsoever on following through.
Well would you credit it, I did it 6am Saturday morning. Thats right teenage me, I got up at 6am on a saturday, through choice.
1st morning run in at least 3yrs, my watch says its a clear PB (which I put down to my phone/watch playing up). But I did it,.
Goal for October:
1. 15runs.......3
2. 80km.........13km
3. 8km long...x
4. PB 5km......Done 5 Oct12 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Rules here seem to be, for road running: grab cup, don't stop (certainly for the front quarter of the pack (for the rest it seems to be stop right in the wrong place so the person behind you collides with you), drink, toss towards bin, if you goes in, great, if not, there are a million volunteers who are there specifically to pick up cups. For trail it seems to be: stop at water stops, fill cup, have a chat with the marshalls, eat a few jelly beans, put cup away, carry on.
This is my experience too. For trail especially I carry my own bottles and refill. Around here the mantra is "leave nothing but footprints and take nothing but experience."
The more relaxed nature of ultras and trail is another attraction to them over the road for me.3 -
I ran 1.55 miles on Thursday, stomach issues, and 4.6 miles yesterday. There was a knee niggle, until all of a sudden it wasn't just a niggle anymore - it was "Stop Right Now - PAIN!" My knee has done the thing. The thing it did last year at the Turkey Trot. The thing that set me back another 3 months of running and made walking painful, too. But this time I have been paying more attention to what's going on with my gait, and I think I see what the problem is. Recently, I noticed that my feet are turning inwards, ever so slightly, instead of pointing straight ahead. My knees track evenly over my feet, though, so I suspect a muscle imbalance in my hips is the culprit. If I point my feet outwards while I walk, there is no knee pain. If I just try to walk "naturally" I will occasionally take a step with my toes turned in, and there is Much Pain. So, I thought I'd ask all of you experienced runners - What hip muscles rotate the leg outwards, and what do I do to strengthen those? I think they're slacking, and it Will Not Do.
In the meantime, I have a 5k tomorrow. I suppose I'm going to try to concentrate on running duck-toed. I should probably not go at all, but it was a free registration through my husband's job, and I feel some sort of commitment. My goal for the race will be not to destroy my knee completely.
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10-1 7k slow
10-2 7k easy
10-3 rest
10-4 rest
10-5 7k moderate
October Total: 21k
October Goal: 135k
January Total: 131k
February Total: 159.5k
March Total: 183k
April Total: 126k
May Total: 128k
June Total: 161.5k
July Total: 151k
August Total: 133k
September Total: 135k
2019 total: 1,308k / 811m
Monthly average: 145.3k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races. Completed 8-31
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k.
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen - Completed 9-28
Mid 40s F, sunny, and breezy today. Was pleasant in the sun, but a little chilly in the shade. Two rest days in a row got rid of almost all the niggles.
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K - 31:12 chip time; First Place male 65 and older
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5K - 31:34 chip time; 31/77 overall; second male 65 and older (no official category)
7-27 Solon Home Days 5K - 31:11 chip time; 95/141 overall; 4/6 age group (male)
8-31 Race for Freedom 5k - 31:39 chip time; 32:00 Garmin time; Third Place male 60 and older
9-14 Gift of Life 5k - off the schedule; insufficient recovery time
10-13 Haunted Hustle 5k6 -
I'm 4 days behind in the thread. Trying to catch up. Read through a couple of pages. Now I need to get off my behind and take the trash off and take care of the leaves on my roof and yard before we get some much needed rain, hopefully, tomorrow and Monday.
I look forward to the day when 4 miles is a "short" run and NOT my long run! Glad your temps are better. We're supposed to finally cool off today and maybe get some much needed rain tomorrow and Monday. We haven't had any in over a month and things are just drying up.An impromptu run tonight. I was going to clean up the house but decided a run sounded better and Kody needed the exercise so we went out for a quick 4 miles after the rain rolled through.
51F today vs. 74F yesterday made a HUGE difference. My 75% quartile speed was 8:23 which is close to the pace I'd like to hit for my 10 mile race Sunday and it felt pretty good, so that's encouraging. Kody was gassed, but he loved it.
That short run was quite enjoyable and I'm going to try to do that more often instead of taking days off.
October Progress: 4/150 Miles
@hamsterwheel6 I used to want to skydive, until when I was getting my private pilots license, my instructor let me go up in a small skydiving plane, just to watch. I was sitting in the floor, buckled in, when he banked the plane to let the divers go out. They climbed out on the wing strut and then let go. All I could think of was that, if I ever tried, he'd have to land with me clinging to the strut. There was no way I'd let go. So, that ended that fantasy.
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FROM YESTERDAY:
Twin Cities Marathon Weekend is here!!!
I actually managed to drag myself out of bed at a reasonably early hour, which is good, since I’ll need to be up even earlier the next two days. I got a solid few hours of work in and then biked downtown to catch the light rail to St. Paul to the expo for packet pickup. I remember going to the expo last year and feeling like a total poser. This year I just felt like I was surrounded by my people.
Packet pickup went smoothly, though I’m disappointed by the design of the race shirts. I’ve done four other races from the same race management group and this is the first set of designs I haven’t liked, so I suppose it’s just a fluke. We also got buffs, which are always useful and I do like the design, although I initially through they were sleeves and got all excited because I actually could use another pair or two of those.
Shrug
TODAY:
Was a little nervous yesterday watching the weather report - we received a warning email from the race organizers about storms predicted for this morning. The race will go on in rain, but not lightning. Luckily, the new Spider-Man movie was playing at the second run theater nearby and, unusually for us, we’d missed it during its first release. So that was a great way to get my mind off the race, and we maintained our unbroken streak of seeing every MCU film released since we started dating on the big screen. #nerdlife
Got home around 10 and was super tired. Made a packing list and got to sleep around 11:30. Slept poorly, as is usual for the night before a race.
Woke up at 5 AM to an email that all races today were canceled. Fart. Went back to sleep for another four hours.
And now I’m up, updating here and planning on getting some work this morning. I’m disappointed, but also a little relieved not to have spent the morning huddled in an overcrowded tent in pouring rain for a delayed or canceled race. At least this way I got to stay warm and dry.
It’s looking like rain for most of the day, and we’ve got other stuff to do, but I’m going to try and get out for a loop of the lake to shake off the stiffness before the 10 Miler. Thankfully, the weather continues to look just fine for tomorrow. I'd been a little concerned about how my legs were going to manage the back-to-back races, so with that concern out of the way, I'm really just excited about tomorrow.
Question for the group: We’ve been told we can pick up our medals for the canceled race in a couple of weeks. Should I pick it up and run a virtual race to make it up, or just forget about it? I’m not really leaning one way or another, so curious what others would do.11 -
16 miles this morning. Found a slightly different route, added another park, which got me running through 6 different parks on this run. Felt pretty good. Had a bowl of oatmeal before the run for the first time in about 6 months. I think the shock of carbs along with marginally cooler temp helped me get through it relatively easy.
2 weeks until the PTC Classic 15K, and 71 days until the Dallas marathon. It's getting real now.
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@MegaMooseEsq sorry about the race cancellation. Good luck tomorrow!
October Miles - 9.41/60, walk 0.46
10/02 - 3.48
10/03 - 2.42; walk 0.46
10/05 - 3.51
Yesterday was a planned rest day. Today was an easy 3 miles (and then some) with a few sprints mixed in. According to Garmin my fastest pace was 5:31 min/mile!! For twenty seconds, I ran faster than 6:30. My easy pace is almost twice that at ~12. Sprints are so much fun.7 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »@hamsterwheel6 I used to want to skydive, until when I was getting my private pilots license, my instructor let me go up in a small skydiving plane, just to watch. I was sitting in the floor, buckled in, when he banked the plane to let the divers go out. They climbed out on the wing strut and then let go. All I could think of was that, if I ever tried, he'd have to land with me clinging to the strut. There was no way I'd let go. So, that ended that fantasy.
See, glad I’m not the only one!
@143tobe great determination and race! Congrats to both of you...
@MegaMooseEsq sorry about the cancellation, now you can concentrate for tomorrow! I would probably pick it up and do a virtual race to feel like I earned it.
@autumnblade75 be careful with that knee...take it easy on the race if you have to. I have a pretty weird gait, my right foot goes outward than in..I try to keep it straight but feels very off...don’t if that can be corrected either
@zeesparrow Right! Love seeing those times on sprints even if ever so briefly!
Packet pick up today for the race tomorrow. Temps should be low 60’s to start..Woohoo!
Rest day, did do a 2 mile walk yesterday, super easy on the legs as I really want to do well.2 -
username301 wrote: »Went to bed Friday evening saying I would do that night's run Saturday morning with no intention whatsoever on following through.
Well would you credit it, I did it 6am Saturday morning. Thats right teenage me, I got up at 6am on a saturday, through choice.
1st morning run in at least 3yrs, my watch says its a clear PB (which I put down to my phone/watch playing up). But I did it,.
Goal for October:
1. 15runs.......3
2. 80km.........13km
3. 8km long...x
4. PB 5km......Done 5 Oct
That’s awesome!1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »No run yesterday, did two hours of volleyball instead. It was a company picnic and a group of people started a game and called me and my wife to join them. Since that was better than attempting and falling small talk I went over and of course, my wife joined me. All of our endurance training really paid off as people kept dropping out of the game (temp was in the 90s) too tried to continue and others rotated in to replace them. My wife and I were on the field for every single game and never rotated off.
When the last game finally ended, we left, which was far better than rejoining the small talk game.
No run today, have company over. Hope to get a longish run in tomorrow. We will see.
It certainly does pay off. Sounds like a lot of fun!0 -
@MegaMooseEsq Sorry about the cancellation, but glad they cancelled early enough for you to just go back to bed. Good luck tomorrow. As for the medal, if I did pick it up, I would definitely do a virtual race to make up for it. I would personally feel bad about having a medal I didn't "earn."
Great pace for the sprints, @zeesparrow .3 -
@MegaMooseEsq I'd pick it up and do a virtual race. You paid, you put in the training, you earned it.4
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6.1 miles (longest since I broke the leg)
14.2/90-ish13 -
@Squish815 Hope your cold is better and you have a great first HM tomorrow!
@7lenny7 Hang gliding is something I would love to give a try. Seems a little safer than sky diving. I think I would like the feeling of flying. I used to have dreams that I could fly all of the time. I haven't had those lately. Humm. Wonder why?
@HonuNui Glad you didn't rage quit. Hugs for your grief and worksuck.
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