March 2020 Monthly Running Challenge
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janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
I also don't want to believe that people under 60 and without underlying conditions are, in some cases, in serious condition and even dying from this at a rate that is apparently different than the flu, but I do accept that this is happening. At the end of the day, we all have to decide whether or not we believe this is actually happening or if it is imaginary and we all have to decide how much risk we're willing to assume on behalf of other people.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
I also don't want to believe that people under 60 and without underlying conditions are, in some cases, in serious condition and even dying from this at a rate that is apparently different than the flu, but I do accept that this is happening. At the end of the day, we all have to decide whether or not we believe this is actually happening or if it is imaginary and we all have to decide how much risk we're willing to assume on behalf of other people.
If you are fearful, lock yourself up and stay away from others. Tell others to stay away from you! IT'S SIMPLE, super sweet simplicity but not everyone comprehends it, unfortunately, no matter how you break it down. It's real, but whether you choose to live or not to live in fear of it IS a choice. I'll respect others and keep social distance from them. But as far as I'm concerned, if someone crosses my path two feet away as they decide to walk by, I'm not worried not one bit. I'll smile at them and say "hi"and carry on with my day.1 -
@Elise4270 I just heard about this show from my nephews in CA....sounds interesting and disturbing at the same time.
@Faebert That sounds very stressful! Hang in there. Running and fresh air always help!
@janejellyroll I saw a similar stat this morning. A lot of the hospitalizations are people in the 20s-40s, and many were not previously immuno-compromised. Maybe smoking and or vaping? Who knows. Hate the way this is pitting generations and states against each other. Surreal really.....
I am missing the great outdoors but enjoying my bike trial. I have noticed that I can really push my cardio level on the bike and I never really did that running. I just focused on getting my mileage in. Which is why I had set a goal to run some races in 2020 and focus on improving my pace. We shall see if I can get back to that goal. Hope to be able to run again at some point because I love my trail. It's going to be 92 here today - new record!
On a good note, my 24 year old son in NYC woke up today feeling a bit better. He said the aches were really bad for 3 days and definitely felt like he had a fever. A slight cough but breathing is good. Lots of Tylenol to help him fall asleep. I asked him today to go smell something as I was curious. He smelled the jar of peanut butter and said it was normal. (Anecdotal evidence that Covid 19 patients lost their sense of smell). He has not been tested since they say don't ask unless your coming to the hospital to be checked in. We are assuming its Covid but it could just unluckily be the flu. New York is ground 0 in the US right now so we are assuming Covid. He will stay in all week and maybe go back to work (his client has a waiver to keep working) next week.
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March – Sidelined Boo!!!!
Race: Cap 10K ATX - April 5th - Cancelled
3/1 -7 miles - ouch😆
3/2 -Yoga
3/3 -Strength training/cycle
3/4 – Cardio Medley – Rower,Stairstepper,Bike,Elliptical
3/5 – 6 mile walk
3/6 – Strength/PT circuit, cycle
3/7 – 2.7 mile walk/ Power Yoga
3/8 – 6.1 mile walk, very slow pace
3/9-3/12 - Denied, Moped, complained,
3/13 – Cycled for 4 miles, slow pace
3/14 – Going to try a Peloton at their store
3/15 – Cycled 8.5 miles on my running trail
3/16 – Cycled 6 miles at gym
3/17 – Nuttin
3/18 – Cycled 6 miles/rowed for 10 min.
3/19 – Cycled 6 miles
3/20 - Cycled 15 miles
3/21 – Cycled 5 miles
3/22 - Cycled 8 miles
3/23 – Cycled 6.5 miles
3/24 – Cycled 12 miles
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Total Run/Walk Mileage: 21.8
Total Bike/Row Mileage: 77 miles
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
I also don't want to believe that people under 60 and without underlying conditions are, in some cases, in serious condition and even dying from this at a rate that is apparently different than the flu, but I do accept that this is happening. At the end of the day, we all have to decide whether or not we believe this is actually happening or if it is imaginary and we all have to decide how much risk we're willing to assume on behalf of other people.
If you are fearful, lock yourself up and stay away from others. Tell others to stay away from you! IT'S SIMPLE, super sweet simplicity but not everyone comprehends it, unfortunately, no matter how you break it down. It's real, but whether you choose to live or not to live in fear of it IS a choice. I'll respect others and keep social distance from them. But as far as I'm concerned, if someone crosses my path two feet away as they decide to walk by, I'm not worried not one bit. I'll smile at them and say "hi"and carry on with my day.
I guess I see a difference between "living in fear" and "being aware of potential dangers."
When I'm riding in a car, I put on my seat belt. This isn't because I'm living in fear, but because I choose to mitigate risks. Same with social distancing right now. For me right now, working from home and avoiding unnecessary contact with others are simple risk mitigation and they're matching the recommendations of health experts. But I'm still smiling and greeting people, I can do that while maintaining a six foot distance.
I think it would be great if we someday look back and say "Wow, we really freaked out over nothing," but the picture from New York City right now makes it look like this isn't going to be "nothing" for everyone.
I do think we agree that it's important to remain connected to people in some way, little things like greeting people and smiling can go a long way in these times. I live in an apartment building and I don't want to see us treating each other like strangers (and that hasn't happened, at least in my building).8 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
I also don't want to believe that people under 60 and without underlying conditions are, in some cases, in serious condition and even dying from this at a rate that is apparently different than the flu, but I do accept that this is happening. At the end of the day, we all have to decide whether or not we believe this is actually happening or if it is imaginary and we all have to decide how much risk we're willing to assume on behalf of other people.
If you are fearful, lock yourself up and stay away from others. Tell others to stay away from you! IT'S SIMPLE, super sweet simplicity but not everyone comprehends it, unfortunately, no matter how you break it down. It's real, but whether you choose to live or not to live in fear of it IS a choice. I'll respect others and keep social distance from them. But as far as I'm concerned, if someone crosses my path two feet away as they decide to walk by, I'm not worried not one bit. I'll smile at them and say "hi"and carry on with my day.
I guess I see a difference between "living in fear" and "being aware of potential dangers."
When I'm riding in a car, I put on my seat belt. This isn't because I'm living in fear, but because I choose to mitigate risks. Same with social distancing right now. For me right now, working from home and avoiding unnecessary contact with others are simple risk mitigation and they're matching the recommendations of health experts. But I'm still smiling and greeting people, I can do that while maintaining a six foot distance.
I think it would be great if we someday look back and say "Wow, we really freaked out over nothing," but the picture from New York City right now makes it look like this isn't going to be "nothing" for everyone.
I do think we agree that it's important to remain connected to people in some way, little things like greeting people and smiling can go a long way in these times. I live in an apartment building and I don't want to see us treating each other like strangers (and that hasn't happened, at least in my building).
I'm not even reading this. If you have a reason to be concerned, take precautions to protect yourself. That's all I have to say. Protect yourself.1 -
JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.10 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.
Correct, it's not the flu and you definitely should stay home, good choice!0 -
@RunsOnEspresso I had no idea that celiac made people more susceptible to pneumonia. Best wishes for staying safe.2
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janejellyroll wrote: »@RunsOnEspresso I had no idea that celiac made people more susceptible to pneumonia. Best wishes for staying safe.
Neither did I until last week. Lol
They don't think controlled cases of celiac are more susceptible to covid19 but only to pneumonia if you happen to get covid19. I haven't had gluten in 5 years so I'm good there.0 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.
Correct, it's not the flu and you definitely should stay home, good choice!
And that's why everyone should be taking these precautions. It's called herd immunity. Its why all people that can be vaccinated for say the flu should be to help those that can't. But too many people are selfish and don't get that.2 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.
Correct, it's not the flu and you definitely should stay home, good choice!
And that's why everyone should be taking these precautions. It's called herd immunity. Its why all people that can be vaccinated for say the flu should be to help those that can't. But too many people are selfish and don't get that.
I am NOT against vaccinations but it should be up to each individual person to decide for themselves whether they want to get them or not. To make it mandatory or a law is unjust and a violation of people's rights. I vaccinate, but that's my choice and for those that choose not to, I respect their rights and choice. It's not selfishness.1 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.
Correct, it's not the flu and you definitely should stay home, good choice!
And that's why everyone should be taking these precautions. It's called herd immunity. Its why all people that can be vaccinated for say the flu should be to help those that can't. But too many people are selfish and don't get that.
I am NOT against vaccinations but it should be up to each individual person to decide for themselves whether they want to get them or not. To make it mandatory or a law is unjust and a violation of people's rights. I vaccinate, but that's my choice and for those that choose not to, I respect their rights and choice. It's not selfishness.
You completely missed my point. But whatever. I can't argue with people that don't get how serious this is, how many people will die and how we all have to do our part. Or that doesn't get herd immunity. Nowhere did I say it should be mandatory. I said PEOPLE THAT CAN SHOULD BECAUSE OTHERS LITERALLY CANNOT GET THE SHOT. You clearly are just seeing what you want. I'm done with this thread. This is *kitten* ridiculous.4 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »JFC This isn't the flu. It's a completely different virus. It's SARS. People are *kitten* dying all over the world. The media is not overhyping this. It's *kitten* serious.
I haven't left my house since last Wednesday except to run, alone and crossing the street when others are out. I have asthma so I am at significantly higher risk. My celiac disease makes me more susceptible to pneumonia a symptom of covid-19. I've been vaccinated for pneumonia BUT celiac disease can make vaccinations not work fully as the would in someone without. I am taking every *kitten* precaution because this is *kitten* real and awful and I don't want it. I had pneumonia at 24. It was AWFUL and this is worse. I wouldn't even wish pneumonia on my worse enemy.
But sounds like some people just prefer to stick their head in the sand much like the government of my state. And this is why I am staying home. Because others don't *kitten* get it.
Correct, it's not the flu and you definitely should stay home, good choice!
And that's why everyone should be taking these precautions. It's called herd immunity. Its why all people that can be vaccinated for say the flu should be to help those that can't. But too many people are selfish and don't get that.
I am NOT against vaccinations but it should be up to each individual person to decide for themselves whether they want to get them or not. To make it mandatory or a law is unjust and a violation of people's rights. I vaccinate, but that's my choice and for those that choose not to, I respect their rights and choice. It's not selfishness.
You completely missed my point. But whatever. I can't argue with people that don't get how serious this is, how many people will die and how we all have to do our part. Or that doesn't get herd immunity. Nowhere did I say it should be mandatory. I said PEOPLE THAT CAN SHOULD BECAUSE OTHERS LITERALLY CANNOT GET THE SHOT. You clearly are just seeing what you want. I'm done with this thread. This is *kitten* ridiculous.
I get all of it but choose not to argue with ignorance. Protect yourself. I agree 100% with you that you should not leave your house; I am glad you are taking precautions.0 -
So far this not been a good week for running. Monday I was in meetings instead of running. Tuesday my son needed help with his homework, and now today I have to sit around waiting for an HVAC person to show up so that I can pay them $95 to tell me everything is fine. If HVAC person comes early enough I still might be able to get out after it, but that is unlikely as they have only a skeleton crew on. Erf.
Maybe I will run tomorrow? There is always hope!7 -
Aired up stroller tires and it made a world of difference. 3.5 running miles and 1 walking mile before the 89 degrees hits today. Now off to mow the grass!2
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March goal: run 2-3 days per week. Virtual 5K April 25th.
3/3 - Ran 1.76 miles
3/4 - Walk 3.3 miles (total walk: 3.3 miles)
3/5 - R 1.8 miles (total run: 3.56 miles)
3/7 - Stationary bike for 20 mins - - - Week 1: Goal accomplished (2 days)
3/10 - R 2.01 miles
3/11 - W 4.01 miles (total walk: 7.31 miles)
3/13 - R 1.76 miles (total run: 7.33 miles) - - -Week 2: Goal accomplished (2 days)
3/17 - R 1.5 miles
3/19 - R 2.01 miles --- Week 3: Goal accomplished (2 days)
3/25 - R 1.51 miles (Total run - 12.35 miles)
I started seeing a chiropractor last week and, well, lets just say I knew my back was all messed up, just didn't realize HOW much! Curves where it should be straight, straight where it should curve, and in the thoracic area (between the shoulder blades) where I've been very painful for a while now shows signs of arthritis! 10mm of difference between my hips as well. I got 2 adjustments last week, and over the weekend, holy backache, Batman! Decided to take a break on myself & start again this week.
Today's run was supposed to be done yesterday. Forgot to inhale, ankle sore, back still sore, and I, of all people, decided to run again with "Zombies, Run!" app. The 1st day of a "Stay at Home" order, too. Not sure if I was "Runner 5" of one of the zombies I was supposed to be outrunning?5 -
@quilteryoyo @LoveyChar I like true crime sometimes. It gets dark and it’s just dumb the reasons people find to do others in. But... dh told me our local loco joe exotic has a series on in Netflix. Swore I wouldn’t watch it, but heck, I’m gonna queue it up momentarily. It’s called Tiger King if anyone’s interested in some real stupidity/ true crime.
Oh wow! I'm on a board on FB for the band Clutch (one of my fave bands!) and they have been blowing up the board about this show because I guess the main guy in it wears Clutch shirts. I thought it was a new series, didn't know it was a true crime, might have to check it out now.
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janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
You know what, I'm done being polite. I know others have replied and far more eloquentluly than im about to. I run the risk of upsetting some people for rocking the boat but I no longer care.
I am a radiographer. I work in a busy main centre hospital. I have no choice but go to work. We are starting to get patients through with covid and they are SICK. I don't mean a little unwell for a few days. I mean Sick.
We have 16 ICU beds in our hospital. We are currently at the very beginning of this crisis. Currently 5 of them are being used by long term non covid patients. 1 is a lady who has been here months, I have seen here so so sick it's not funny. Whole body swollen, lips cracked, eyes bulging, red and yellow and blood shot. Completely unable to move and respond. She is finally able to breathe mostly unassisted but still needs a lot of care.
She has had to be moved out of her high care room to make way for a corona patient. And if she gets it, she is dead.
Another guy is in for spinal injuries sustained in an MVA over the weekend. Hes only 20, if he gets it he is dead.
My 6 Yr old and my self have asthma. If we get it, we are likely to need ICU support. But there are only 16 beds. If they are all taken, where will we go?
So the lock downs and isolating the population has NOTHING to do with you getting the virus. I couldn't give a toss if you get it, you will be fine. But @elise4270 and @PastorVincent and others who have other health conditions (sorry to point you out, but you are prominent named I can think of while rage typing) if THEY Get it, then they are at huge risk of being very sick. And if everyone gets it at the same time, then the healthcare system - regardless of your country - will be overwhelmed and will not be able to care for them who fo you choose to save.
So the reason you are staying at home is to stop the virus spreading so fast. It's going to spread. We know that. We can't stop that. But we can slow it.
So shut up with its just a flu. We worry about the flu every year too.
So go read some news that isn't fox, listen to what healthcare providers and scientists are telling you and *kitten* stay at home for the benefit of everyone.
ETA read some of your replies. OK you are selfish. Doing things for yourself but not others. OK. Fine. I know now there is nothing anyone can say that will get you to understand why entire countries are locking everything down. The fist time Ever the world's government's, western or Eastern, mostly agree on something.17 -
So i just had an epiphany as to why I'm so stressed. Let me have a self indulgent moan please! Hahaha
TL:DR I want all the food because I'm stressed and thinking way too much.
As an essential worker, sure I'm working. But I'm actually getting out of the house and doing something useful, so selfishly I get a bit of a kick out of that. I won't deny it, there is a little thrill knowing I can make a small difference in my way every day. Heck that's what keeps me doing my job! But I'm scared. Im not that worried about me getting it, or my family really. I worry about loved ones.
And I worry about the pressure on my husband and kids. They are stuck at home 24/7. I'm not. So I worry about their mental health, and are they doing OK with all of this. My kids are used to going to the park or beach or library when ever they want, and now they can't. Sure today is day 3 for them, but in a months time... And I feel for my husband who is home with them. We love them but oi vey!
So I feel like im carying the mental load of the whole family. And of course because I work in healthcare I'm getting all the questions, that I simply do not know the answers to. So mentally I'm all used up.
And that's why I'm stress eating. Because I'm thinking for 4 people.
So no run today. I was going to but I didn't have everything laid out and I didn't want to wake hubby, so sat here and vented instead over my cup of coffee. Oddly work is very very quiet atm, because all non essential things have been cut, we have almost no patients - for now. That won't last long. And we all believe we are going to get sick, so it's a matter when not if. And that will put huge pressure on us when that happens. So we all feel so much tension, it's the calm before the storm. And because I'm an organiser, this waiting and doing nothing is really really hard. We can't even plan really because we don't know what's going to happen. And because we are quiet we are all sitting around over analysing everything.
Constant tension is not good for anyone.
Wow that was long winded, rambly and annoying. I should have just gone for that run, but I'm being good and following my plan!12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
You know what, I'm done being polite. I know others have replied and far more eloquentluly than im about to. I run the risk of upsetting some people for rocking the boat but I no longer care.
I am a radiographer. I work in a busy main centre hospital. I have no choice but go to work. We are starting to get patients through with covid and they are SICK. I don't mean a little unwell for a few days. I mean Sick.
We have 16 ICU beds in our hospital. We are currently at the very beginning of this crisis. Currently 5 of them are being used by long term non covid patients. 1 is a lady who has been here months, I have seen here so so sick it's not funny. Whole body swollen, lips cracked, eyes bulging, red and yellow and blood shot. Completely unable to move and respond. She is finally able to breathe mostly unassisted but still needs a lot of care.
She has had to be moved out of her high care room to make way for a corona patient. And if she gets it, she is dead.
Another guy is in for spinal injuries sustained in an MVA over the weekend. Hes only 20, if he gets it he is dead.
My 6 Yr old and my self have asthma. If we get it, we are likely to need ICU support. But there are only 16 beds. If they are all taken, where will we go?
So the lock downs and isolating the population has NOTHING to do with you getting the virus. I couldn't give a toss if you get it, you will be fine. But @elise4270 and @PastorVincent and others who have other health conditions (sorry to point you out, but you are prominent named I can think of while rage typing) if THEY Get it, then they are at huge risk of being very sick. And if everyone gets it at the same time, then the healthcare system - regardless of your country - will be overwhelmed and will not be able to care for them who fo you choose to save.
So the reason you are staying at home is to stop the virus spreading so fast. It's going to spread. We know that. We can't stop that. But we can slow it.
So shut up with its just a flu. We worry about the flu every year too.
So go read some news that isn't fox, listen to what healthcare providers and scientists are telling you and *kitten* stay at home for the benefit of everyone.
ETA read some of your replies. OK you are selfish. Doing things for yourself but not others. OK. Fine. I know now there is nothing anyone can say that will get you to understand why entire countries are locking everything down. The fist time Ever the world's government's, western or Eastern, mostly agree on something.
I'm definitely not being selfish. Like everyone else, I'm limited to running; I go nowhere. Everything else is shut down. I'm not insensitive to sick people. As I mentioned before I do keep social distance. As I said twice before, I do keep social distance. No it's not the flu; you're correct.0 -
I wish I could go for a run, but stuck waiting on the HVAC guy who they said he would be here "sometime today"
Erf the sun just came out too.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »I wish I could go for a run, but stuck waiting on the HVAC guy who they said he would be here "sometime today"
Nice to know that some things never change, even in these uncertain times.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »I wish I could go for a run, but stuck waiting on the HVAC guy who they said he would be here "sometime today"
Nice to know that some things never change, even in these uncertain times.
I have to ask, are you a quilter?1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »I wish I could go for a run, but stuck waiting on the HVAC guy who they said he would be here "sometime today"
Nice to know that some things never change, even in these uncertain times.
I have to ask, are you a quilter?
No. I think it's an awesome hobby, but I've never done it. Do I seem like a quilter? I take it as a compliment.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »I wish I could go for a run, but stuck waiting on the HVAC guy who they said he would be here "sometime today"
Erf the sun just came out too.
I had to wait for the plumber Sunday and missed my run. Luckily when they replaced it Tuesday Justin was home so I hid in the office and worked.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
Statistically it’s likely that you and and very likely your children will be fine if you get it. However, people are not statistics. Even in young healthy people, ten times as many die as from a regular flu. That 1% death rate is not for people like me - my rate is 8% likely to die - or my mom - her rate is 15%. That one percent means people like you. How many people go to your church or a school or daycare your children attend? Are there at least a hundred? Because if there are a thousand young, healthy people just like you who go to your church, and this goes through your church, you will statistically likely be friends with ten people who had no earthly reason to die last year who die.
Of young and healthy people only about ten percent need ventilators to keep living. An even larger percentage need oxygen. They don’t run to the hospital for a paper cut, they pass out on their kitchen floor and are found dead when their boyfriend texts them and doesn’t get a response. Really happened, in America, just the other day, to an otherwise perfectly healthy young woman who was self monitoring at home. A young man in Zimbabwe died yesterday because his city doesn’t have any ventilators. WITH CARE most young and healthy people live. Most. Ten times as many who would die of flu still die even with the best care. Those who live are not the same afterwards, their lungs are trashed. They will not run marathons, maybe ever.8 -
rheddmobile wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
Statistically it’s likely that you and and very likely your children will be fine if you get it. However, people are not statistics. Even in young healthy people, ten times as many die as from a regular flu. That 1% death rate is not for people like me - my rate is 8% likely to die - or my mom - her rate is 15%. That one percent means people like you. How many people go to your church or a school or daycare your children attend? Are there at least a hundred? Because if there are a thousand young, healthy people just like you who go to your church, and this goes through your church, you will statistically likely be friends with ten people who had no earthly reason to die last year who die.
Of young and healthy people only about ten percent need ventilators to keep living. An even larger percentage need oxygen. They don’t run to the hospital for a paper cut, they pass out on their kitchen floor and are found dead when their boyfriend texts them and doesn’t get a response. Really happened, in America, just the other day, to an otherwise perfectly healthy young woman who was self monitoring at home. A young man in Zimbabwe died yesterday because his city doesn’t have any ventilators. WITH CARE most young and healthy people live. Most. Ten times as many who would die of flu still die even with the best care. Those who live are not the same afterwards, their lungs are trashed. They will not run marathons, maybe ever.
The bolded part? That's why I was familiarizing myself with my employer's guide for an employee death. My office is 140 people. My overall employer? Almost 14,000. We are going to need that guide.
Healthy 52 year old (no underlying health conditions) with several Ironmans is recovering from it here. https://www.azfamily.com/news/continuing_coverage/coronavirus_coverage/phoenix-man-recovering-from-coronavirus-says-this-isn-t-just/article_186e3e9a-6e41-11ea-9fcb-ff9f1df99bf0.html1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »@LoveyChar US results are showing that younger and non-immune compromised people aren't an insignificant number of the people being hospitalized with serious complications. So if we decide to let this virus go through 80% of the population quickly, it's unlikely the rest of us will be "carrying on," we'll be grieving for previously healthy loved ones who died because there were not enough medical resources to help everyone recover.
The flu is such that people run to the doctor in fear and it's a virus, which passes in healthy people and this is also what happens with this newest virus. My middle child had the flu when she was a toddler, and I rushed her to the doctor who told me that she had a different strain than the one she was vaccinated from. She passed the virus. Now when my kids, to include my little guy, get a bug or virus, I don't rush to the doctor. I don't. But you have people that get a paper cut or something of the sort and go to the emergency room and unfortunately, you will have people left and right flood emergency rooms for little to nothing. Even in healthy people, this passes with time. I don't believe everything the media is putting out. They are over- embellishing and want you to live in fear.
Statistically it’s likely that you and and very likely your children will be fine if you get it. However, people are not statistics. Even in young healthy people, ten times as many die as from a regular flu. That 1% death rate is not for people like me - my rate is 8% likely to die - or my mom - her rate is 15%. That one percent means people like you. How many people go to your church or a school or daycare your children attend? Are there at least a hundred? Because if there are a thousand young, healthy people just like you who go to your church, and this goes through your church, you will statistically likely be friends with ten people who had no earthly reason to die last year who die.
Of young and healthy people only about ten percent need ventilators to keep living. An even larger percentage need oxygen. They don’t run to the hospital for a paper cut, they pass out on their kitchen floor and are found dead when their boyfriend texts them and doesn’t get a response. Really happened, in America, just the other day, to an otherwise perfectly healthy young woman who was self monitoring at home. A young man in Zimbabwe died yesterday because his city doesn’t have any ventilators. WITH CARE most young and healthy people live. Most. Ten times as many who would die of flu still die even with the best care. Those who live are not the same afterwards, their lungs are trashed. They will not run marathons, maybe ever.
Thanks for this! I go nowhere so thanks for saying this from the perspective of a sane, rational and educated person as opposed to someone on an imaginary high horse and I'm being sincere. My kids are not in school. My husband works from home. I was in healthcare for 4 years of my life. Do you or anyone know how many deceased bodies I've cleaned up? Most people don't. Patients survived surgery to die in their sleep or have stroked out or have a heart attack. I've cried with people after receiving cancer diagnoses and I've held family members' hands after their loved ones passed. My husband has seen people blown into thousands of pieces and I mourned the young men that didn't make it back. I appreciate this from your perspective because it's logical and not self-centered or ignorant.1 -
After reading the messages over the past 24 hours I’m going to propose we try to find the positive things we can do in this crisis instead of debating the legitimacy of it. We’ve been “asked” in our community to stay at home and not flood the parks. The more we can do to honor that request, the more it honors the health care workers on the front lines (regardless of whether we agree, the healthcare workers on the front lines are pleading with us to stay at home). I’m interested in hearing the positive creative ways we are all getting our runs and workouts in. I will comply with the request while my pregnant adult daughter as a paramedic is on the front lines. I’m planning to tag #StayHome with any of those that help support this request from our healthcare leaders.
I will run in my neighborhood today #StayHome
Will anyone join me?
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emmamcgarity wrote: »After reading the messages over the past 24 hours I’m going to propose we try to find the positive things we can do in this crisis instead of debating the legitimacy of it. We’ve been “asked” in our community to stay at home and not flood the parks. The more we can do to honor that request, the more it honors the health care workers on the front lines (regardless of whether we agree, the healthcare workers on the front lines are pleading with us to stay at home). I’m interested in hearing the positive creative ways we are all getting our runs and workouts in. I will comply with the request while my pregnant adult daughter as a paramedic is on the front lines. I’m planning to tag #StayHome with any of those that help support this request from our healthcare leaders.
I will run in my neighborhood today #StayHome
Will anyone join me?
Except if people don't believe in the legitimacy of this virus and the effects it's having it won't matter what we do.3
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