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KrissCanDoThis wrote: »God love people here...
-- now 4 more people at ths nursing home my company owns have covid.
-- a pizza place employee, despite delivery only here, tested positive and now there is potential contamination for their co workers and anyone who ordered food..
-- an 18 and 19 year old were just charged 3000+ dollars in fines for stunting, driving a car 140km per hour in a 90km zone and not obeying social distancing..
-- two more nursing homes also have more positive tests.
My mom and grandmother ordered chinese then other day and all I could think was what if someone who made their food has it... everyone has to go grocery shopping at some point... 4 grocery stores have already had people who work there test positive... why increase the risk with takeout food
I haven’t been ordering any takeout that can’t be heated to kill the virus or left in the fridge for three days before eating. Covid dies pretty quickly at high temperatures and doesn’t like steam either. So, no salads, coleslaw, etc.
Pay online so no need to sign anything, delivery leaves at end of driveway, put on gloves, food bags get taken into foyer and set on newspaper. Small table in foyer has containers and clean implements. I open containers and hold them while my husband ladles food into containers with clean hands. Containers and newspaper and gloves taken outside and put directly into trash. Then we both wash hands in case anyone did something without realizing. Food in containers gets reheated before eating. We both also assume that anything which has come into the house from more recently than three days ago is infected, regardless of our process, and wash between touching it and eating or touching face.
At this point in my community, our zip code is a hotspot and it’s safer to assume everyone you meet has it, especially delivery people with front facing jobs. But you have to eat, and groceries are no cleaner than takeout.
Re: nursing homes. I wrote a long angry post way back last month about how hapless the staff at nursing homes tend to be and how expecting them to maintain hygiene was a disaster waiting to happen. I am sorry to be right, I would rather have been proven wrong. There was an article in the Boston Globe about how one third of nursing homes in the Boston area have repeated violations about not maintaining sanitation standards during normal times, much less during Coronavirus.6 -
I'm not concerned about delivery (I wash my hands after handling as with everything else), and given the numbers in my city I do assume anyone might have it. I limit delivery because of the reasons I did before this (high cals), but am mostly getting delivery ingredients (just ordered from a nearby farm for delivery on Tuesday), which seems to pose the same issues, as would any ingredients you don't plan to cook.2
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Easter party 🎈at homes (parks closed) here the cops kept running them off they wait come right back or go to another home. One neighbor has 20cars the cops ran them off an hour before their was only 4 cars then. Went in the backyard was so loud neighbors out everywhere sounded like a school carnival 🎡. Wasn’t all the houses but the ones barbecuing had tons of friends besides family over (I could understand a couple family members depending who). One stole a broken treadmill from the yard... hubby got scared he was organizing the garage we thought it was the good one at first. Relief to know they hauled off the trash lol 😆. Wish I could see their faces when they plug it in lol.
Garage looks great we organized door closed at the end Opened garage hauled to the curb all we could ,but had to move a stove y treadmill by the cars to do it.We put the working stove they didn’t steal back in the garage. Hubby went inside for trash sacks that’s all the time they needed.
In our area some jurisdictions are asking people to please not do spring cleaning at this time and have already cancelled "large-item" haul-aways that residents are entitled to request about four times a year. Some things they would normally take with regular pickup are being left, as well. I guess they're having some staffing issues, and also are trying to eliminate situations where multiple workers have to get together to move something large.
Often with bigger items left in alleys here, it's assumed someone else might take it away before the garbage service comes. Not uncommon on NextDoor to see "chest of drawers in alley at ___, if you want it." I've dumped plenty of large (and potentially usable) things in the alley over the years not sure if the garbage service would take them, and they were quickly gone even without Nextdoor posting.
At the moment, no clue, as I haven't dumped anything large or out of the ordinary. But we haven't been instructed to change habits.2 -
KrissCanDoThis wrote: »I dont get the Easter thing lol.... it's not christmas... cant people just miss easter? I'm not religious, so I understand that for some it has a religious significance... but those religious things dont have anything to do with bbqs and parties lol...
Easter is a big deal here just like Christmas, so skipping it for us will be like skipping Christmas. This will suck. We did make Easter sweets, but this time instead of serving them we will be eating them lol. We will have a barbecue and prepare a bunch of other food with relatives on Easter eve (they live really close). I'm not very comfortable with the idea of 9 people being in one place together for hours, but it is what it is.9 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Easter party 🎈at homes (parks closed) here the cops kept running them off they wait come right back or go to another home. One neighbor has 20cars the cops ran them off an hour before their was only 4 cars then. Went in the backyard was so loud neighbors out everywhere sounded like a school carnival 🎡. Wasn’t all the houses but the ones barbecuing had tons of friends besides family over (I could understand a couple family members depending who). One stole a broken treadmill from the yard... hubby got scared he was organizing the garage we thought it was the good one at first. Relief to know they hauled off the trash lol 😆. Wish I could see their faces when they plug it in lol.
Garage looks great we organized door closed at the end Opened garage hauled to the curb all we could ,but had to move a stove y treadmill by the cars to do it.We put the working stove they didn’t steal back in the garage. Hubby went inside for trash sacks that’s all the time they needed.
In our area some jurisdictions are asking people to please not do spring cleaning at this time and have already cancelled "large-item" haul-aways that residents are entitled to request about four times a year. Some things they would normally take with regular pickup are being left, as well. I guess they're having some staffing issues, and also are trying to eliminate situations where multiple workers have to get together to move something large.
Often with bigger items left in alleys here, it's assumed someone else might take it away before the garbage service comes. Not uncommon on NextDoor to see "chest of drawers in alley at ___, if you want it." I've dumped plenty of large (and potentially usable) things in the alley over the years not sure if the garbage service would take them, and they were quickly gone even without Nextdoor posting.
At the moment, no clue, as I haven't dumped anything large or out of the ordinary. But we haven't been instructed to change habits.
Yeah, in normal times, more often than not I have to call back to cancel after I've scheduled a "big item" pickup because somebody spies it and decides it still has some value, which I'm very happy about -- would rather have it go to someone who will repair it and use it or sell it, than into a landfill. With everybody afraid to touch anything somebody else has touched right now, I don't know if that would still happen.3 -
KrissCanDoThis wrote: »I dont get the Easter thing lol.... it's not christmas... cant people just miss easter? I'm not religious, so I understand that for some it has a religious significance... but those religious things dont have anything to do with bbqs and parties lol...
I think for many people who are religious, the fact that they can't celebrate the religious aspect communally makes the traditional but not-strictly-speaking religious family celebrations all the more emotionally important. I'm not defending people who are breaking policy on not mixing socially with those outside your household, just offering an explanation of why for many people it may be hard to "just miss Easter" (which, by the way, in the Christian religion, is far more important than Christmas).13 -
In the Christian Commumity Easter is the reason for Christianity. Christmas has hyjacked the Pagan mid winter celebrations and probably continues some of their inherant features. There is nothing better than a big winter get together when the days, northern hemisphere, are so wet and cold. I suppose Christmas could be said to mark the start of the road to the "Green Hill outside the City Walls" and the Cross and the Resurrection, on what is now Easter Sunday, then there will be Ascension Day.8
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »KrissCanDoThis wrote: »I dont get the Easter thing lol.... it's not christmas... cant people just miss easter? I'm not religious, so I understand that for some it has a religious significance... but those religious things dont have anything to do with bbqs and parties lol...
I think for many people who are religious, the fact that they can't celebrate the religious aspect communally makes the traditional but not-strictly-speaking religious family celebrations all the more emotionally important. I'm not defending people who are breaking policy on not mixing socially with those outside your household, just offering an explanation of why for many people it may be hard to "just miss Easter" (which, by the way, in the Christian religion, is far more important than Christmas).
I think this is a good explanation.
Because Easter is not normally (or at least not reliably) a nice day where I live, we have no outdoor grilling associations with it. Usually I go to Easter Vigil and a big party after, but that's inherently church related, and then at time I've met people for an Easter brunch or, more commonly, have a dinner with a number of people, kind of similar to other holiday dinners. Since there are no young children in the circle of people who would normally come (or in my closer family), we don't do the usual hiding eggs or chocolate stuff. We did a small Zoom dinner this year, and earlier in the day I watched Easter mass streamed by a church I went to for a long time (last year was my first Easter at my new parish, as I moved just about 2 years ago).
I didn't happen to feel any particular emotional need to do more than I did, and no one in my circles was suggesting it, but I do understand why it might be a tough time for some, as you said.5 -
I know we all believe differently, I think my disconnect here is mostly just, putting faith before your health, your families health.. I understand this day has religious significance even tho I myself dont practice it, but right now we are all making hard sacrifices, not just during this holiday but everyday, by not being able to see our family and friends, but I know that if we all stay safe and follow the rules and do everything we can, all those people will be there for me later, I can handle a little sacrifice now, worship today if that's who you are, but cant you do both? Your worship today definitely comes with a sacrifice that your used to, but why risk those peoples health for potentially one easter...
Am I explaining myself correctly?13 -
Sorry I meant not used to... this app wont let me edit my post without that annoying report option popping up and then it wont go away lol
I also wanna add that when I say can't you do both, I mean worship and do what you can to protect your loved ones by making that sacrifice to social distance rather then have everyone over for that big party or bbq.3 -
Also.. I know it's harder for others being seperated from others, some people have that deep family connection.. I hope I'm not offending anyone8
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KrissCanDoThis wrote: »Also.. I know it's harder for others being seperated from others, some people have that deep family connection.. I hope I'm not offending anyone
I think it might have sounded like you were saying Easter isn't important. Easter is a huge family celebration for a lot of us, and it hurts to miss it. Just as much as it would hurt to not celebrate Christmas with family or friends. I miss my nephews terribly, and pictures from my SIL of them with their baskets was just a reminder of the time I'm missing. And Easter is I think a little more culturally important in many countries outside of North America, much closer to the importance of Christmas than it is here.
I know that's not how you meant it btw, and I'm not criticizing and I wasn't offended Just an explanation.11 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »I checked and it turned out that Home Depot is open (even this year) on Easter, so I figured I'd try it again, and also realized there was one I hadn't thought of that is probably the closest to me (it's west, so I wasn't as familiar with it as the ones between me and work or the one north of me). Went over there, and there was a line, but only two people, so I figured I'd try it out. The sign said only 100 people total in the store (which is quite big, like most HDs). I only needed to go to the garden/seed section, and it was probably the most relaxing time I've ever spent in a HD, I was in and out quickly, and they actually had all the seeds I was looking for, so yay.
Then I stopped for gas on the way home at the closest gas station to my place and they were selling masks (better than my makeshift masks that I've been using), so I picked up some. Typical stand outside and do the transaction through a tray gas station kind of thing.
Someone just a few houses down was selling flowers to plant, which I saw on my way home (they'd posted something in Nextdoor a while ago, but I didn't realize they were doing it every Sunday), so I got some of those too (transactions outside, everyone standing back and wearing masks). Bit more out of the house interaction than I'm totally comfortable with, but all pretty safe.
Irrationally happy about getting my seeds and flowers for Easter.
Which seeds did you get? And flowers?
Oh, I missed this before.
For flowers I got sweet allium, pansies, a hydrangea, and a pericallis senetti. For seeds I really overdid, as I got them at HD where I was kind of rushing so just bought everything rather than doing what I normally would have, taking more time to think it through there. I'd assumed there would be less available and I was just going to get what I could find. So I ended up getting: cucumbers, leeks, carrots, green beans, peas, and radishes, plus marigolds, lavender (which I grew in my herb cart last year), and then some other flower seeds too (coneflowers, violas, black-eyed susans, daisies, California poppies). No clue what I will do with them all.6 -
Mmmm... okay, yes I can see that.. my apologies, I guess I just mostly had my mind on those stories of people with 20 cars in their drive ways and even tho police were chasing them out, they only returned anyway..
If my mom had decided to have our family over for any reason, not just easter, with my 82 year old grandmother there, I'd be livid with her, if she got sick, I would never wanna be in that position where she could be in the hospital and critical and because of covid, im not even allowed to be there...
As much as I miss them.. at least I know that we did everything we could to prevent it, those people having those parties, potentially exposing their loved ones to a virus they themselves may not even have experienced symptoms for yet.. I just couldnt imagine taking that chance..9 -
Lynn- I was surprised the big item pickup wasn’t cancelled either. Some pick up the metal items off the curb to copper folks toss for money at this time others for furniture 🪑 who can’t afford a couch or dining table. Everyone knows if it’s not at the curb it’s not yours! Normally no one walks up a driveway to grab or onto a porch either. I just got done bleaching my trashcans all of them for the trash pickup y I bleach them before y after with the bleach water I just used to clean my home so none is wasted!
Got my packages finally 1 can of soup busted open the delivery guy fumbled dropped. Luckily wasn’t bad so was able to save what was inside I wiped off what was outside if it y top of the can soup. So 1/3rd can wasted but enough to heat at high heat just for me. Originally was for a casserole oh well. Rebleached the doorbell for next person to ring it.
I don’t mind the homes that invited a few relatives very few to celebrate practiced social distancing best they can maybe even remembered their masks hopefully.It was the tons of friends to too many family member ones. If someone has 5 kids who had 5 each plus grandma y grandpa called up Uncle so-so his large family that’s not good! More folks less ability in a home with small backyards to social distance they had no masks . They could have scheduled times to come to see grandma even so all the huge gaggles took turns not all at once have masks in social distancing to protect grandma . The ones I saw were friends mainly huge groups tons of cars cases of beer in hand hugging shaking hands bbq going no PPE on anyone! Saw friends stop by grab a beer sit down to eat bouncing the neighbors baby in their knees no masks. Just unnecessarily putting themselves at risk y others. They could easily have had outdoor bbq 🍗 scheduled times PPE on chairs far apart eat in your lap talk enjoy go home next set come in if family members only. Not a good time to invite a friend. Well will see how this plays out I’m expecting a jump in numbers from this. Too many had the same let’s bbq in groups of 10-100 people! The house with 20cars was not 1 person per car it was spouses with their kids pouring out with older family too crammed in like sardines in a can! Some were even in large vans full to the brim. Surprised still that the cops didn’t give a citation! Holidays will still be here next year we skipped Easter completely will celebrate next year. Another family member chose her kids to only be with hubby y her Easter egg hunt in the yard watch a church broadcast send pics to grandma.3 -
Easter is huge here. We usually have a big easter eve event with the whole (extended) family - we're talking 40 people, maybe more. First day of easter all friends and family visit us, next day we visit them, then for 2-3 days we get a few more visitors here and there. We serve coffee, chocolate, and easter sweets. The whole house is usually heavily decorated just like Christmas. It's more cultural than religious although my mom is religious and there will be no mass for her this time.
This year it will be different. Our relatives live one house over, so we're thinking barbeque together this easter eve. I would personally skip it if it didn't mean so much to the rest of the family, but they need this. We did not decorate and there will be no visitors. I'm slightly uncomfortable, but with 0 confirmed cases in the city (and it being closed off) and people confined to the areas they live in, I feel they deserve to feel a little bit normal for once. I'm thinking about skipping it just to have some sorely needed alone time, but we'll see.5 -
Mmmm... I guess that's what I meant by "cant you miss easter" I think I just didnt say it right lol... those scenarios you described were who I was directing that comment too, the people who blatantly put everyone at risk just because it's a holiday, if today is about your faith, worship, but for the love of your family and friends, the bbqs, the beer, the close quarters and no protection, cant you just miss that this one time?7
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My grandmother just recently found out my uncle has lung cancer and it doesnt look good for him, this will be her third time losing a child, my heart really broke for her because he lives in another province and she cant even go be with him.
I guess that's another reason it really fires me up because there are people out there who are in these hurtful circumstances who are doing what they can to make sure this doesnt get worse and stay home all the while their son is dying from cancer...and you have other people who just dont care, prolonging the situation13 -
KrissCanDoThis wrote: »Mmmm... I guess that's what I meant by "cant you miss easter" I think I just didnt say it right lol... those scenarios you described were who I was directing that comment too, the people who blatantly put everyone at risk just because it's a holiday, if today is about your faith, worship, but for the love of your family and friends, the bbqs, the beer, the close quarters and no protection, cant you just miss that this one time?
We did, but it's hard. Easter in my family is another family feast day much like Thanksgiving or Christmas. A big component of the holiday is getting together as a family and doing a ham or leg of lamb, etc and sharing as a family. My mom desperately wanted to come over to enjoy the holiday and to see my boys who she hasn't seen in a month now except for face time, but I had to say no. It's hard telling your mother she can't come over.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »KrissCanDoThis wrote: »Mmmm... I guess that's what I meant by "cant you miss easter" I think I just didnt say it right lol... those scenarios you described were who I was directing that comment too, the people who blatantly put everyone at risk just because it's a holiday, if today is about your faith, worship, but for the love of your family and friends, the bbqs, the beer, the close quarters and no protection, cant you just miss that this one time?
We did, but it's hard. Easter in my family is another family feast day much like Thanksgiving or Christmas. A big component of the holiday is getting together as a family and doing a ham or leg of lamb, etc and sharing as a family. My mom desperately wanted to come over to enjoy the holiday and to see my boys who she hasn't seen in a month now except for face time, but I had to say no. It's hard telling your mother she can't come over.
I agree, my birthday back in march was much the same, she couldnt understand why I wouldnt just sneak into her building and celebrate with her and my grandmother (at that time their apartment building had banned visitors) but it had to be done, and yeah it sucks spending anything alone lol.. but I feel better knowing I didnt go.
Every time I go to the grocery store I wonder if that's the trip where I touched that can of soup or pack of chicken that someone else infected touched and it will be my turn.5
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