Coronavirus prep
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I have always said book sense and common sense don’t always go hand in hand... and I agree that it likely was just a snippet, unfortunately that small sampling of people can spoil the whole bunch in terms of spreading through the campus. I would have been the one holed up in my room, but I had suite mates that would have been the ones out on the town, living their life, frat parties galore.Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Don't confuse IQ with judgement (and I'm not necessarily saying they have higher IQs, either). People of undergrad age do not yet have fully-developed judgement and self-control brain circuitry yet, and it shows, on average. I worked at a big (40,000+ student) university for around 30 years: That's a lot of opportunity to observe this age group. They are not grown-ups yet, not really.
Some of us (me included), if we honestly think back to our own age 18-22 age period, may acknowledge that we did some pretty dumb stuff, too (not everyone did, I'm sure - this is not an accusation).
I'd also point out that any university has a big bundle of students. As with any other group, the ones you see en masse out in public doing Stupid Stuff are not necessarily the whole population, perhaps not even a majority of it, numerous though they may be. The more careful, prudent undergraduates are in their dorm rooms, watching Netflix or something, not out playing maskless beer pong.
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moonangel12 wrote: »
I have always said book sense and common sense don’t always go hand in hand... and I agree that it likely was just a snippet, unfortunately that small sampling of people can spoil the whole bunch in terms of spreading through the campus. I would have been the one holed up in my room, but I had suite mates that would have been the ones out on the town, living their life, frat parties galore.Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Don't confuse IQ with judgement (and I'm not necessarily saying they have higher IQs, either). People of undergrad age do not yet have fully-developed judgement and self-control brain circuitry yet, and it shows, on average. I worked at a big (40,000+ student) university for around 30 years: That's a lot of opportunity to observe this age group. They are not grown-ups yet, not really.
Some of us (me included), if we honestly think back to our own age 18-22 age period, may acknowledge that we did some pretty dumb stuff, too (not everyone did, I'm sure - this is not an accusation).
I'd also point out that any university has a big bundle of students. As with any other group, the ones you see en masse out in public doing Stupid Stuff are not necessarily the whole population, perhaps not even a majority of it, numerous though they may be. The more careful, prudent undergraduates are in their dorm rooms, watching Netflix or something, not out playing maskless beer pong.
I would have been one out on the town too but pretty sure I wouldn't have in a pandemic. I would have just had a party for two with husband
Boyfriend back then. We could get into enough trouble alone lol. 3 -
moonangel12 wrote: »
I have always said book sense and common sense don’t always go hand in hand... and I agree that it likely was just a snippet, unfortunately that small sampling of people can spoil the whole bunch in terms of spreading through the campus. I would have been the one holed up in my room, but I had suite mates that would have been the ones out on the town, living their life, frat parties galore.Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Don't confuse IQ with judgement (and I'm not necessarily saying they have higher IQs, either). People of undergrad age do not yet have fully-developed judgement and self-control brain circuitry yet, and it shows, on average. I worked at a big (40,000+ student) university for around 30 years: That's a lot of opportunity to observe this age group. They are not grown-ups yet, not really.
Some of us (me included), if we honestly think back to our own age 18-22 age period, may acknowledge that we did some pretty dumb stuff, too (not everyone did, I'm sure - this is not an accusation).
I'd also point out that any university has a big bundle of students. As with any other group, the ones you see en masse out in public doing Stupid Stuff are not necessarily the whole population, perhaps not even a majority of it, numerous though they may be. The more careful, prudent undergraduates are in their dorm rooms, watching Netflix or something, not out playing maskless beer pong.
I was thinking this, too. Its always just a few people who ruin it for everyone. Middle daughter's university president sent a strongly worded email to students today. They return to campus this weekend. He said: IT's UP TO YOU, your actions impact every single person in the community, and failure to follow rules for the good of the community will end with campus closing and YOU WILL BE SENT HOME (caps his). He also said anyone who can't or won't commit to the new way "shouldn't be here." He was pretty clear. Time will tell how compliance goes.14 -
18-25 hormones trumps brains.7
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Well let's hope and pray for the best- i STILL wish- it was online for ALL schools in USA(pre-k though college) for a while longer- until we get a better handle on things- but yeah a FEW always mess it up for the majority of folks3
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Anybody else here notice their house/yard gradually getting more unkempt during this pandemic? It's the opposite of what I would expect. I'm already a stay at home person. I figured with extra time from curtailed outside activities, I'd get more done at home - DIYs, deep cleaning, major yardwork. That's not what's happening, though. I'm actually doing less than before. Letting stuff go. Just recently started realizing it. Better formulate a plan to fix this before it becomes habit!
Is it just me, or is this a thing?
My yard is pretty much the same as always...it's very low maintenance to begin with living in the desert...mostly xeriscape rock and gravel paths with desert shrubbery and the pool. I get up around 6 every morning and do a check of the pool chem while I'm having my coffee...throw the robot into vacuum if necessary, and that's about it on that side. Most of the yard really only needs maintenance a couple times per year.
The house is dirtier and just more unkempt looking, which is to be expected IMO...we went from having two adults and an 8 and 10 year old in the house for three or four hours per day during the week before going to bed to having that same ratio in the house basically 24/7...so of course it's going to be a bit more chaotic and unkempt. There's no way to keep up with all of that when you're also working from home and kids are distance learning, etc...there really isn't that much extra time...it's the same time, it's just spent at home doing the things you would normally be doing at work/school. I can't meet deadlines if I'm spending my days making sure the bathrooms are spic and span, etc.
For a great many, there isn't time for deep cleaning, major yard work, etc...because life is going on as usual, it just happens to be that it's happening from home instead of an office or school. Our only curtailed activities are things like going out to eat and certain entertainment options on the weekend...otherwise life remains the same except I'm not in an office building everyday...but my obligations to the company don't change just 'cuz I'm at home.3 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Going into or getting into college has nothing to do with someone being smart or not. People entering college are generally 18 year old kids who's frontal lobes have still yet to fully develop. Going to college allows one to be educated in an area of expertise...like anything, there will be people who graduate with minimum qualifications and people with exemplary qualifications, and everything in between. I'm an accountant that graduated cume laude...I spent a lot of time in school tutoring others...there were also a lot of other accountants that graduated with C's...
For a lot of college students, the first couple years are largely a party with classes before things get serious....there's also a huge flunk/drop ratio during this time. The notion that everyone who gets into college is supposed to be smarter is ridiculous...coming out the other end better educated doesn't mean smarter...it means you received the education.
PS...even as a cume laude I did stupid *kitten*...'cuz young people do stupid *kitten*...I just happened to be a brain wizard at accounting. That didn't ever keep me from keggers, growing weed in my closet, jumping motor bikes, etc.
ETA: I'm biased, but my kids are really damned smart, particularly in mathematics...but they're 8 and 10...and everyday I see some of the dumbest *kitten* ever done that makes me pound my head on the table...every friggin' day...they outdo themselves. Smart has nothing to do with actually being aware/socially aware...it just means they rock the *kitten* out of fractions and division...If they lived on their own they would eat Bagel Bites and do nose dives into a 6' pool while drinking copious amounts of Dr. Pepper and maybe having some Ramen here and there, then jumping their mountain bikes off the roof into the pool...10 -
Went to McDonald’s for drinks today, after our first library trip since 3/10... kids were ecstatic! (Library visits were something they always looked forward to - they devour books). I had to go in because the drive thru was out into the road. The girl at the fry station had a black mask with hot pink “THIS IS STUPID” - I guess it could go a couple directions in terms of meaning, but I assumed she didn’t like having to wear it. Funny thing is, even with her (assumes) opinion being stated loud and proud, she was one of only a couple people in a busy kitchen wearing one correctly. So glad I wasn’t getting food.3
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Going into or getting into college has nothing to do with someone being smart or not. People entering college are generally 18 year old kids who's frontal lobes have still yet to fully develop. Going to college allows one to be educated in an area of expertise...like anything, there will be people who graduate with minimum qualifications and people with exemplary qualifications, and everything in between. I'm an accountant that graduated cume laude...I spent a lot of time in school tutoring others...there were also a lot of other accountants that graduated with C's...
For a lot of college students, the first couple years are largely a party with classes before things get serious....there's also a huge flunk/drop ratio during this time. The notion that everyone who gets into college is supposed to be smarter is ridiculous...coming out the other end better educated doesn't mean smarter...it means you received the education.
PS...even as a cume laude I did stupid *kitten*...'cuz young people do stupid *kitten*...I just happened to be a brain wizard at accounting. That didn't ever keep me from keggers, growing weed in my closet, jumping motor bikes, etc.
ETA: I'm biased, but my kids are really damned smart, particularly in mathematics...but they're 8 and 10...and everyday I see some of the dumbest *kitten* ever done that makes me pound my head on the table...every friggin' day...they outdo themselves. Smart has nothing to do with actually being aware/socially aware...it just means they rock the *kitten* out of fractions and division...If they lived on their own they would eat Bagel Bites and do nose dives into a 6' pool while drinking copious amounts of Dr. Pepper and maybe having some Ramen here and there, then jumping their mountain bikes off the roof into the pool...
Over here (Australia) I thought it is the smarter ones goes to university and then the rest either do TAFE (college)or other regular jobs. Not sure if it's different to there. I certainly didn't think I was up to going to uni. I know I was a lot more sensible than some of my friends that went to uni and totally had no common sense even in later life now.3 -
University is definitely not some elite thing above college here (US). Mainly, college is an undergrad only school (some of which are among the hardest to get into, and the benefit is you get taught by professors, not grad students, and they are evaluated on teaching as well as publications), and university is a school that has undergrad and grad students, some of which are very competitive (Yale, Stanford), but still might have more grad school teaching and bigger classes than some of the best colleges, and some of which are less hard to get into but still good (my state school, U of IL), and some of which are awful (same with some colleges) and a waste of money. Minimal research should show any reasonably intelligent person which is which. There's no clear division in quality between schools known as colleges and those known as universities.6
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Things are getting crazy locally with Monday being first day of on campus classes. This week was party time since the campus March closure.
Left KY this morning and drove straight south nearly to the AL border to pickup a cultipacker. I did not see any face mask usage and was told it was business as usual in West TN which seemed factual based on the 5.5 hours we were in the state.
I expect the pandemic being fake news mindset will be changing for many soon. I'm not sure we'll ever recover from this mental health crises that seems to be world wide.7 -
Here in Finland we’re starting to hit the second wave, and I’m pretty scared of what will happen to the society. If we go into lockdown in the fall season, the mental health crisis will be huge. It’s so dark, last year we got 19 hours of sun in the entire month of November, and we usually don’t get snow until December so it’s really just cold, wet and dark for a month straight (or more, depending on how October and December go). Even if it’s technically light out, it’s usually so heavily cloudy it’s just gray everywhere. On November 30th the sun ”comes up” around 9AM and goes down 3.30PM, so the vast majority of the day is really just darkness. If we’re locked in and socially isolating on top of that, I don’t know how we can survive. On a joke note, Disney+ is going to have a killer year as they’re launching here in September.
A mask advisory was announced on Thursday for public transportation. On Friday less than half wore masks during my commute, but I guess the usage will increase next week once people have time to actually get masks. I wore one, but it really didn’t feel necessary as it was so quiet everyone was able to socially distance. They also announced regional WFH recommendations, and since I live in the most densely populated capital area we were of course hit with one.12 -
Over here (Australia) I thought it is the smarter ones goes to university and then the rest either do TAFE (college)or other regular jobs. Not sure if it's different to there. I certainly didn't think I was up to going to uni. I know I was a lot more sensible than some of my friends that went to uni and totally had no common sense even in later life now.
as a fellow Australian I don't think I would agree with that.
People who are more academic tend to do University degrees.
People who are doing more hands on courses - trades etc, - tend to go to TAFE - thats what TAFE stands for - Technical And Further Education
and anyway there are different sorts of smart - some people are book learning smart (academic) and others are smart in different ways.
2 of my children went to University and 1 went to TAFE and became a qualified tradesman.
I wouldnt say the 2 are neccesarily smarter in life - they just had the inclination and aptitude for academic study
and all may or may not have common sense and good judgement.8 -
paperpudding wrote: »Over here (Australia) I thought it is the smarter ones goes to university and then the rest either do TAFE (college)or other regular jobs. Not sure if it's different to there. I certainly didn't think I was up to going to uni. I know I was a lot more sensible than some of my friends that went to uni and totally had no common sense even in later life now.
as a fellow Australian I don't think I would agree with that.
People who are more academic tend to do University degrees.
People who are doing more hands on courses - trades etc, - tend to go to TAFE - thats what TAFE stands for - Technical And Further Education
and anyway there are different sorts of smart - some people are book learning smart (academic) and others are smart in different ways.
2 of my children went to University and 1 went to TAFE and became a qualified tradesman.
I wouldnt say the 2 are neccesarily smarter in life - they just had the inclination and aptitude for academic study
and all may or may not have common sense and good judgement.
No problem. We don't tend to agree with many things lol. Have a great day. I Think we did agree and we just worded things differently really. I'm not great with words I know.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »Drove through the local university campus early evening. Lines at the bars, beer pong in yards groups walking around not a mask to be seen unless it was around someone's neck. Place will be shut down before classes even start.
I'm not sure what to think about that. Aren't people that go to university supposed to be smarter than the average person? Guess not then.
Going into or getting into college has nothing to do with someone being smart or not. People entering college are generally 18 year old kids who's frontal lobes have still yet to fully develop. Going to college allows one to be educated in an area of expertise...like anything, there will be people who graduate with minimum qualifications and people with exemplary qualifications, and everything in between. I'm an accountant that graduated cume laude...I spent a lot of time in school tutoring others...there were also a lot of other accountants that graduated with C's...
For a lot of college students, the first couple years are largely a party with classes before things get serious....there's also a huge flunk/drop ratio during this time. The notion that everyone who gets into college is supposed to be smarter is ridiculous...coming out the other end better educated doesn't mean smarter...it means you received the education.
PS...even as a cume laude I did stupid *kitten*...'cuz young people do stupid *kitten*...I just happened to be a brain wizard at accounting. That didn't ever keep me from keggers, growing weed in my closet, jumping motor bikes, etc.
ETA: I'm biased, but my kids are really damned smart, particularly in mathematics...but they're 8 and 10...and everyday I see some of the dumbest *kitten* ever done that makes me pound my head on the table...every friggin' day...they outdo themselves. Smart has nothing to do with actually being aware/socially aware...it just means they rock the *kitten* out of fractions and division...If they lived on their own they would eat Bagel Bites and do nose dives into a 6' pool while drinking copious amounts of Dr. Pepper and maybe having some Ramen here and there, then jumping their mountain bikes off the roof into the pool...
For once we are in total agreement. My freshman year of college I dislocated my shoulder rollerblading down the spiral off-ramp from a six-story elevated parking garage. Someone there had a stopwatch and estimated we got up to 60 mph before wiping out, which I think is an exaggeration, but regardless it was way too darned fast and a spectacularly stupid thing to do. And I was known as “the smart one” in my group of college friends. Book smarts and good sense are not the same at all.
Bison tipping, that was also a thing. Because if you have a herd of bison and a herd of college boys, the boys have to break into the grounds of an actual prison at night to tip the dangerous large quadrupeds.4 -
paperpudding wrote: »Over here (Australia) I thought it is the smarter ones goes to university and then the rest either do TAFE (college)or other regular jobs. Not sure if it's different to there. I certainly didn't think I was up to going to uni. I know I was a lot more sensible than some of my friends that went to uni and totally had no common sense even in later life now.
as a fellow Australian I don't think I would agree with that.
People who are more academic tend to do University degrees.
People who are doing more hands on courses - trades etc, - tend to go to TAFE - thats what TAFE stands for - Technical And Further Education
and anyway there are different sorts of smart - some people are book learning smart (academic) and others are smart in different ways.
2 of my children went to University and 1 went to TAFE and became a qualified tradesman.
I wouldnt say the 2 are neccesarily smarter in life - they just had the inclination and aptitude for academic study
and all may or may not have common sense and good judgement.
No problem. We don't tend to agree with many things lol. Have a great day. I Think we did agree and we just worded things differently really. I'm not great with words I know.
yes, maybe.
My post wasnt in direct opposition to yours anyway - was just giving my own view going on from what you said.
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It's fine but I'll stay out of here from now on. Take care.3
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Here in Finland we’re starting to hit the second wave, and I’m pretty scared of what will happen to the society. If we go into lockdown in the fall season, the mental health crisis will be huge. It’s so dark, last year we got 19 hours of sun in the entire month of November, and we usually don’t get snow until December so it’s really just cold, wet and dark for a month straight (or more, depending on how October and December go). Even if it’s technically light out, it’s usually so heavily cloudy it’s just gray everywhere. On November 30th the sun ”comes up” around 9AM and goes down 3.30PM, so the vast majority of the day is really just darkness. If we’re locked in and socially isolating on top of that, I don’t know how we can survive. On a joke note, Disney+ is going to have a killer year as they’re launching here in September.
This is what I'm worried about, I'm in the UK. My job involves looking after the well-being of young people in education, it 's getting worse. Goodness knows what it'll be like once we get into the murk in the winter.5 -
littlegreenparrot1 wrote: »Here in Finland we’re starting to hit the second wave, and I’m pretty scared of what will happen to the society. If we go into lockdown in the fall season, the mental health crisis will be huge. It’s so dark, last year we got 19 hours of sun in the entire month of November, and we usually don’t get snow until December so it’s really just cold, wet and dark for a month straight (or more, depending on how October and December go). Even if it’s technically light out, it’s usually so heavily cloudy it’s just gray everywhere. On November 30th the sun ”comes up” around 9AM and goes down 3.30PM, so the vast majority of the day is really just darkness. If we’re locked in and socially isolating on top of that, I don’t know how we can survive. On a joke note, Disney+ is going to have a killer year as they’re launching here in September.
This is what I'm worried about, I'm in the UK. My job involves looking after the well-being of young people in education, it 's getting worse. Goodness knows what it'll be like once we get into the murk in the winter.
Fall/winter is a worry here, with regular flu, schools reopening, covid continuing. and the people with no common sense (definitely not limited to college age people, there are plenty of people of all ages in this category). They were clearly wrong about their hot weather theory of it slowing it down. New cases have declined somewhat in the US, but experts say that testing has slowed down again.5 -
My friend a science fiction writer wrote this to honor her sister in law who passed away last month from Covid. It's chilling.
http://www.elizabethmoon.com/site/Bring.Out.Your.Dead.html10 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Things are getting crazy locally with Monday being first day of on campus classes. This week was party time since the campus March closure.
Left KY this morning and drove straight south nearly to the AL border to pickup a cultipacker. I did not see any face mask usage and was told it was business as usual in West TN which seemed factual based on the 5.5 hours we were in the state.
I expect the pandemic being fake news mindset will be changing for many soon. I'm not sure we'll ever recover from this mental health crises that seems to be world wide.
Yup. That sounds about right. It's like that in the Eastern part, too.
Schools started here Monday on a hybrid schedule despite being in the Red category still: masks required in the city schools, only suggested but not required for all the county schools. I haven't asked my teacher friend how that's looking. She works in the city schools. I'm forgotten here in the corner. None of my "friends" have time for me. They are out living their lives and having a fine, busy ol' time. I wouldn't know what anywhere else looks like at this particular moment besides Kroger. That's the only place we go besides one other grocery outlet place. No, scratch that: hubby know what it looks like. I'm always at home unless it's a doc appt. Walmart was a joke when we were forced to go there to get an order for something we needed the same day. Hubby went in and was the only customer wearing a mask and people were not keeping their distance. Kroger has masking about 85-90% during the times he goes (morning). The other grocery place almost no wearing and if an employee has one, it's hanging around their neck. We don't go anywhere else. Exposure risk is just too great. We pay more to order online at Target or Amazon. I'm not ordering from Walmart again unless it's a home delivery. A couple weeks ago, hubby had gone to the grocery stores and got takeout. Between those 3 places, he brought a grocery item or food home that was germed. One of my kids got very sick and spent a week on the couch with fever, severe fatigue, lack of appetite, and no other symptoms. Wasn't COVID, but was definitely a virus according to the pediatrician. Doc wanted my daughter tested, and it was negative, even though I told her we never see any human besides my elderly Dad next door. He's practically a hermit anyway besides shopping at Kroger and Walmart during senior hours. The kid's finally back to normal. Can't wait to see the bills from the test and bloodwork. We had to cancel our camping trip that week. We lost money on it.
Meanwhile the kids are doing their homeschool work here at home. My college freshman's classes are all online now. Only lab or experience-based classes are going to be in-person on campus. We have to venture on campus though this week to pick up her books. At least they require masks.
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How to prep for near and long term is becoming more stressful as the game keeps changing.
Murray State University starts physical classes tomorrow so students from many states are back in town. At 11 PM last night there were about 20 cars lined up at McDonald's drive through only option. Kids were socializing in the parking lot.
The county sheriff two years into his second term after retiring from the KY State Police has announced he is resigning tomorrow to go back to the family farming operation. He had stated this was going to be his last term as sheriff but with his inside knowledge this move two years early concerns me. There was a riot downtown yesterday between those wanting to remove Robert E Lee from the courthouse lawn and Harley riders. With students coming in from everywhere and the MSU organizations parties COVID-19 risks are zooming up.
I get it that college students can be less than rational but we have masses of 50-70 years olds in denial making it all about religion and politics. I am concerned because several of my family work at the local hospital and in law enforcement and the daughter has to drive on campus each day attending classes with strangers from far away places. Worse some classes are online starting 15 minutes after on campus classes when she requires 30 minutes to get back home and get online.
The emotional state of people at large is the worse I have ever seen in my 69 years and wish my wife and daughter did not have to be in the middle of this 5 days a week. The hospital staff is so stressed out locally and around the world. The same goes for those working in food services and grocery stores. How does law enforcement break up a riot knowing they are walking into a high COVID-19 risk with unmasked people fighting? I get it that the sheriff with options is moving back to the family farming operations. Few have such options.
We are being told these are good time compared to the upcoming flu season.8 -
Anybody else here notice their house/yard gradually getting more unkempt during this pandemic? It's the opposite of what I would expect. I'm already a stay at home person. I figured with extra time from curtailed outside activities, I'd get more done at home - DIYs, deep cleaning, major yardwork. That's not what's happening, though. I'm actually doing less than before. Letting stuff go. Just recently started realizing it. Better formulate a plan to fix this before it becomes habit!
Is it just me, or is this a thing?
Yes, same here. I never got the extra yardwork done as expected. Work from home became more like work a lot more and have less time for myself.JustSomeEm wrote: »Yeah, totally get this. I had to set hard limits for myself with times/behaviors with regard to work and home life when I was doing most of my working from home. And even now with those hard limits, on work from home days extra work time has a tendency to creep into my 'home time'.
I'd been working remotely since 2011 and learned to balance the unscheduled (but fairly regular) late night working with things like longer lunches and garden breaks.
I did notice that when the lockdown started my coworkers new to WFH were working later than usual. Two of them especially who use to always hit the door right at 6 PM became more available.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Anybody else here notice their house/yard gradually getting more unkempt during this pandemic? It's the opposite of what I would expect. I'm already a stay at home person. I figured with extra time from curtailed outside activities, I'd get more done at home - DIYs, deep cleaning, major yardwork. That's not what's happening, though. I'm actually doing less than before. Letting stuff go. Just recently started realizing it. Better formulate a plan to fix this before it becomes habit!
Is it just me, or is this a thing?
Yes, same here. I never got the extra yardwork done as expected. Work from home became more like work a lot more and have less time for myself.JustSomeEm wrote: »Yeah, totally get this. I had to set hard limits for myself with times/behaviors with regard to work and home life when I was doing most of my working from home. And even now with those hard limits, on work from home days extra work time has a tendency to creep into my 'home time'.
I'd been working remotely since 2011 and learned to balance the unscheduled (but fairly regular) late night working with things like longer lunches and garden breaks.
I did notice that when the lockdown started my coworkers new to WFH were working later than usual. Two of them especially who use to always hit the door right at 6 PM became more available.
I see the staff dealing with customer support issues evening and weekends since we have been WFH for over two years now. Their view is why not respond since they are at the computer because they will have to deal with it the next day or Monday anyway.
By the way I like the rich colors of your cat photo. We have many outside cats thanks to the daughter but until 2 months ago we never had an inside cat. She is orange, black and white and positive for the daughter in these times.8 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Anybody else here notice their house/yard gradually getting more unkempt during this pandemic? It's the opposite of what I would expect. I'm already a stay at home person. I figured with extra time from curtailed outside activities, I'd get more done at home - DIYs, deep cleaning, major yardwork. That's not what's happening, though. I'm actually doing less than before. Letting stuff go. Just recently started realizing it. Better formulate a plan to fix this before it becomes habit!
Is it just me, or is this a thing?
Yes, same here. I never got the extra yardwork done as expected. Work from home became more like work a lot more and have less time for myself.JustSomeEm wrote: »Yeah, totally get this. I had to set hard limits for myself with times/behaviors with regard to work and home life when I was doing most of my working from home. And even now with those hard limits, on work from home days extra work time has a tendency to creep into my 'home time'.
I'd been working remotely since 2011 and learned to balance the unscheduled (but fairly regular) late night working with things like longer lunches and garden breaks.
I did notice that when the lockdown started my coworkers new to WFH were working later than usual. Two of them especially who use to always hit the door right at 6 PM became more available.
I agree, I actually schedule my WFH days this way on purpose now. Rather than force myself to buckle down and work when my head or focus just aren't in it, I'll take time to do something else and then simply work a little later to make up the time and get my work done. I'll even sometimes log back on after dinner and finish a task I neglected if I get a second wind.
Despite everyone I've ever worked with insisting it's not possible, I am way more productive later in the day, a true night owl. So WFH has allowed me to lean into that and do the bare minimum required in the morning, then utilizing more productive hours later in the day more efficiently. Whenever we get out of this mess, I'll be asking to WFH at least a couple of days a week permanently!
On a less positive note, I am getting more and more pushback from my parents and brothers family to "stop living in fear". My mom and SIL are focused on disinfecting everything constantly, but are totally fine with all of us gathering for indoor family meals for hours, and intend to continue to do so after school starts. I tell them we need to be protecting my parents by avoiding all gathering together, indoors specifically, but they blow it off.
I'm already dreading having to be the family party pooper come the holidays. It is even harder to imagine missing Thanksgiving and Christmas knowing my family will be gathering anyway. It would be so much easier if everyone was on board with having a different, safer holiday plan this year.14 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
The opposite is true on my street. Lots of us are taking the opportunity to do home improvement tasks. One neighbor painted their foundation, my OH started pressure-washing the patio, killed that washer, bought another, finished the patio, and then pressure-washed the fence. This inspired another neighbor to pressure-wash his deck, and then paint it. Etc. (I think it's an environmentally irresponsible waste of water during a drought, but...)
On the inside, we finally got around to going through more of his mom's stuff - she passed away 3 years ago. I scrubbed the kitchen floor on my hands and knees and took everything out of the frig and cleaned it. This is NOT normal for me, lol.
Same here! I've been doing much more sorting things out, and my husband has been organizing the kitchen like crazy.
I also learned how to bake bread (my husband has known how for a long time) and am trying a lot more recipes. Onion bread, roasted garlic bread, olive bread, sweet potato cornbread. Just made Cornish pasties for the first time a couple of days ago, and I want to make piroshki soon. Also making different curries. Also making my own spice blends instead of bottled mixes.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
The opposite is true on my street. Lots of us are taking the opportunity to do home improvement tasks. One neighbor painted their foundation, my OH started pressure-washing the patio, killed that washer, bought another, finished the patio, and then pressure-washed the fence. This inspired another neighbor to pressure-wash his deck, and then paint it. Etc. (I think it's an environmentally irresponsible waste of water during a drought, but...)
On the inside, we finally got around to going through more of his mom's stuff - she passed away 3 years ago. I scrubbed the kitchen floor on my hands and knees and took everything out of the frig and cleaned it. This is NOT normal for me, lol.
Same here! I've been doing much more sorting things out, and my husband has been organizing the kitchen like crazy.
I also learned how to bake bread (my husband has known how for a long time) and am trying a lot more recipes. Onion bread, roasted garlic bread, olive bread, sweet potato cornbread. Just made Cornish pasties for the first time a couple of days ago, and I want to make piroshki soon. Also making different curries. Also making my own spice blends instead of bottled mixes.
I didn't pay a lot of attention to my FaceBook feed before the pandemic, but started to in an effort to consume less news. So many of my friends took up baking! And there were so many posts lamenting flour and yeast shortages, lol.0 -
For those of you who have not yet had your fill of Apocalyptic fiction, "On the Media" rebroadcast their 2017 segment featuring interviews of authors of this genre, specifically SLOW apocalypses.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-apocalypse-now-2020-08-14
Jeff VanderMeer's highly acclaimed "Southern Reach" trilogy sounds interesting, and I have just downloaded the book featured in the interview, "Borne," from my library.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_VanderMeer
I've already had Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars series on my reading list, but am going to let "New York 2140," which I just downloaded from my library, skip ahead in the queue.
Also downloaded "Gold Fame Citrus" - while she admits how inaccurate her science is, the passages she read in the interview made me think I will like it for other reasons.1 -
My niece brought her kids up to see my mother. Inside, none of them wearing masks; now I have to isolate from my parents for two weeks. I was furious.
If anyone has Kindle Unlimited they can read my book for free. It's an apocalyptic romance: Something Begins. No pandemic. I've been avoiding anything in the apocalyptic genre myself. Somehow, I don't find them enjoyable when living through one.4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »My friend a science fiction writer wrote this to honor her sister in law who passed away last month from Covid. It's chilling.
http://www.elizabethmoon.com/site/Bring.Out.Your.Dead.html
Powerful fiction writing.4
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