Coronavirus prep
Options
Replies
-
I don't think the mortality rate, at least now, is even 1%. NYC and Italy got hit with the worst strain. The one that hit the West Coast was more contagious, according to scientists, but had mutated to where it wasn't as deadly.
That's what drives me absolutely nuts when I hear "New York's response was terrible". It was a much deadlier strain that hit the US East Coast early on. We've also learned a lot about what works and what doesn't. Remdesivir has lessened the deaths greatly. The rest of us are just fortunate that it's much less deadly now, though so much easier to catch. I still have no desire to catch it because we still just don't know the long term affects.
There was a GA State QB this week that said he's quitting football because docs are telling him that he has long term (possible permanent) heart damage from Covid-19. He was a talented freshman. Great shape and young.6 -
SummerSkier wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »We are such a global community anymore that sadly even if one country/locality/state appears to be nailing the response down, it's only a matter of time before it pops back up again. We are just lucky that the mortality of known cases is "only" 5%, If this were a true plague with higher mortality we would probably be looking at close to an extinction event seeing as how we do not seem to have the ability to work together as a world against a common enemy (virus).
And that's my Debbie downer note for today.
Mortality is less than 1%.
Mortality of closed cases. Of course statistics are all over but I used worldometer and have been watching it there. I'm sure you can find more statistics for all cases versus known which maybe are less. It doesn't truly matter. My point is that this sort of global catastrophe should bring the world together but instead we continue to think local.
Yes, we have to use closed cases because we don't know the outcome of open cases and including them in the Total (denominator) without including the open cases that will result in death in the numerator will result in a mortality rate that is not correct (and lower than the true rate unless 100% of active cases survive). Anyone who passed 3rd grade math should know this already.7 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »I don't think the mortality rate, at least now, is even 1%. NYC and Italy got hit with the worst strain. The one that hit the West Coast was more contagious, according to scientists, but had mutated to where it wasn't as deadly.
That's what drives me absolutely nuts when I hear "New York's response was terrible". It was a much deadlier strain that hit the US East Coast early on. We've also learned a lot about what works and what doesn't. Remdesivir has lessened the deaths greatly. The rest of us are just fortunate that it's much less deadly now, though so much easier to catch. I still have no desire to catch it because we still just don't know the long term affects.
There was a GA State QB this week that said he's quitting football because docs are telling him that he has long term (possible permanent) heart damage from Covid-19. He was a talented freshman. Great shape and young.
Yes, the long term effects of the health of the survivors of COVID-19 may be devastating for some people. It’s encouraging that a young athlete, can take the advice from his doctors. If some leaders would have done this from the beginning, perhaps the US would be in a better place now.9 -
It's been a while since I last posted, so here's a little update from New Zealand...
We as a country had been doing great...101 days with no community transmission! All the active cases were from new arrivals in the country, in managed isolation (and then quarantine facilities). Things were pretty sweet, and day to day life pretty "normal".
Then 10-ish days ago, we had a new community case found...which has led to a cluster. I think as of today, we are looking at around 88 cases from that cluster. We have a total of 105 active cases, including the ones returned from overseas.
The Auckland region quickly went into a fairly high alert level (not quite as harsh as our toughest lockdown, but pretty restricted), and the rest of the country (incl where I am) moved up to "level 2" with a few more restrictions than before.
There's been a huge increase in testing to track down all the links to the known cases. New cases are still appearing each day, but single figures.
But the lockdown is of course taking a big toll on people and their livelihoods.
Being in a different region, my kids are still at school, and DH and I are still at work. But some things have changed - limits on spectators at kids sport, no overnight camps for scouts, no school disco...little things in the scheme of it, really. Makes me appreciate what we CAN do a lot more again
I admire New Zealand. You're in a big island, and I'm in a little one. Our cases were down to ZERO until we started to welcome scheduled flights again. The protocol is that all arriving passengers SHOULD have a certificate of a recent negative COVID19 test, or else they MUST be tested before leaving the airport. And if we test you locally, there will be a follow up test 7 days later. Now we have a few new cases on record every day as a result. Still no local community spread.5 -
missysippy930 wrote: »In the town nearest to us (small town population 20,000 with 2 colleges. About 3000 students enrolled at this college) off campus party has resulted in an outbreak of Covid-19 among the party goers. Annual tuition $50,000/year. How are they going to get a grip on COVID-19 with this occurring at universities and colleges across the country? I’m in Minnesota, and the highest rates of new infections is in the 20-30 age group.
It is happening at colleges here in Indiana. One school just kicked out like 36 students for attending a party. The schools had all students sign documents about NOT doing stupid stuff like that. They broke it. They suffered the consequences. Another school is looking into a party there and those students will be kicked out as well when they are identified. The dean has already said that if it continues, they WILL be going all online which has made a lot of other students upset. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.
So, is anyone stocking up any? With flu season coming up along with Covid, I am wondering how much stocking I should do. I did get to Costco today for the first time since February. Picked up paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, steak, salmon, pork chops, and chicken breasts plus a few more items. Also going to stock up on things I use a lot of in the fall/winter like stocks, cream of X soups, "canned" soup, pasta sauce, pasta, and things like that. Plus a few specialty items like coconut aminos. I spoke to my therapist about it and she said as long as I don't get obsessive or let my "anxiety voice" take charge, then it seems like a solid plan. Just still worried that it's too much.7 -
missysippy930 wrote: »In the town nearest to us (small town population 20,000 with 2 colleges. About 3000 students enrolled at this college) off campus party has resulted in an outbreak of Covid-19 among the party goers. Annual tuition $50,000/year. How are they going to get a grip on COVID-19 with this occurring at universities and colleges across the country? I’m in Minnesota, and the highest rates of new infections is in the 20-30 age group.
It is happening at colleges here in Indiana. One school just kicked out like 36 students for attending a party. The schools had all students sign documents about NOT doing stupid stuff like that. They broke it. They suffered the consequences. Another school is looking into a party there and those students will be kicked out as well when they are identified. The dean has already said that if it continues, they WILL be going all online which has made a lot of other students upset. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.
So, is anyone stocking up any? With flu season coming up along with Covid, I am wondering how much stocking I should do. I did get to Costco today for the first time since February. Picked up paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, steak, salmon, pork chops, and chicken breasts plus a few more items. Also going to stock up on things I use a lot of in the fall/winter like stocks, cream of X soups, "canned" soup, pasta sauce, pasta, and things like that. Plus a few specialty items like coconut aminos. I spoke to my therapist about it and she said as long as I don't get obsessive or let my "anxiety voice" take charge, then it seems like a solid plan. Just still worried that it's too much.
If you will use it before it expires, there should be no need to worry. Here, it's normal to stock up before winter because we never know what will happen with the weather. If stocks run low later, then you won't be part of the problem because you won't need to shop.8 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »We are such a global community anymore that sadly even if one country/locality/state appears to be nailing the response down, it's only a matter of time before it pops back up again. We are just lucky that the mortality of known cases is "only" 5%, If this were a true plague with higher mortality we would probably be looking at close to an extinction event seeing as how we do not seem to have the ability to work together as a world against a common enemy (virus).
And that's my Debbie downer note for today.
I noted something about this the other day. New mathematical models, because scientists are now saying that T Cells are just as, if not more important that antibodies, that we might only need to reach 43% or less of the population ( I think they said 43%) before we have herd immunity. That's great news, actually.
Sweden went for this early and deliberately. The irony is, the US didn't at all, but might achieve it soon after Sweden. Sweden's decision was controversial and (some would say) cost some of their old their lives. Our response would be just utter and complete incompetence.
At this point, I say with the young and dumb and the anti-maskers, as well as those that have already been exposed -- through no fault of their own -- we're inching closer and closer to that 43%. I do think after Fall, which will be bad, that we'll see the numbers dropping dramatically.
I think that's positive in a dark kind of way??
The US population is 328 million people. 45% would be 147,600,000.
Current known infections are 5,620,000 and that's in around 6 months. Obviously that case # is low as many people weren't tested. But even if twice as many people have gotten it (11 million let's say), it would still take several years for us to get anywhere near a 43% threshold, and that would require staying at our current pace, which is yielding 1,000 ish deaths a day.
Sorry to be a party pooper
but that doesn't sound positive to me. But it is Friday night during the Apocalypse and I've already gotten into the box of wine in the fridge... 14 -
missysippy930 wrote: »In the town nearest to us (small town population 20,000 with 2 colleges. About 3000 students enrolled at this college) off campus party has resulted in an outbreak of Covid-19 among the party goers. Annual tuition $50,000/year. How are they going to get a grip on COVID-19 with this occurring at universities and colleges across the country? I’m in Minnesota, and the highest rates of new infections is in the 20-30 age group.
It is happening at colleges here in Indiana. One school just kicked out like 36 students for attending a party. The schools had all students sign documents about NOT doing stupid stuff like that. They broke it. They suffered the consequences. Another school is looking into a party there and those students will be kicked out as well when they are identified. The dean has already said that if it continues, they WILL be going all online which has made a lot of other students upset. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.
So, is anyone stocking up any? With flu season coming up along with Covid, I am wondering how much stocking I should do. I did get to Costco today for the first time since February. Picked up paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, steak, salmon, pork chops, and chicken breasts plus a few more items. Also going to stock up on things I use a lot of in the fall/winter like stocks, cream of X soups, "canned" soup, pasta sauce, pasta, and things like that. Plus a few specialty items like coconut aminos. I spoke to my therapist about it and she said as long as I don't get obsessive or let my "anxiety voice" take charge, then it seems like a solid plan. Just still worried that it's too much.
I'm buying one or two stock-up items whenever I shop to cycle out my previous stock and build it up a little more. I'm hoping to start stretching out the time between shopping trips again, as I've gotten a little lax about it over the summer. Cases are rising in Virginia and some schools are still intending to open soon.8 -
Trying to stock up on supplies again, not bc of covid or flu, but bc there’s two storms in the gulf headed my way. Hey, why not, it’s 202013
-
missysippy930 wrote: »In the town nearest to us (small town population 20,000 with 2 colleges. About 3000 students enrolled at this college) off campus party has resulted in an outbreak of Covid-19 among the party goers. Annual tuition $50,000/year. How are they going to get a grip on COVID-19 with this occurring at universities and colleges across the country? I’m in Minnesota, and the highest rates of new infections is in the 20-30 age group.
It is happening at colleges here in Indiana. One school just kicked out like 36 students for attending a party. The schools had all students sign documents about NOT doing stupid stuff like that. They broke it. They suffered the consequences. Another school is looking into a party there and those students will be kicked out as well when they are identified. The dean has already said that if it continues, they WILL be going all online which has made a lot of other students upset. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.
So, is anyone stocking up any? With flu season coming up along with Covid, I am wondering how much stocking I should do. I did get to Costco today for the first time since February. Picked up paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, steak, salmon, pork chops, and chicken breasts plus a few more items. Also going to stock up on things I use a lot of in the fall/winter like stocks, cream of X soups, "canned" soup, pasta sauce, pasta, and things like that. Plus a few specialty items like coconut aminos. I spoke to my therapist about it and she said as long as I don't get obsessive or let my "anxiety voice" take charge, then it seems like a solid plan. Just still worried that it's too much.
If you will use it before it expires, there should be no need to worry. Here, it's normal to stock up before winter because we never know what will happen with the weather. If stocks run low later, then you won't be part of the problem because you won't need to shop.
Exactly!! And here it is normal to stock up for the hurricane season, but I'm not "normal". I don't even panic when the storm is very near and predicted to unleash imminent destruction. I live life one day at a time, so won't be buying 6 weeks stock of goods for any reason.0 -
missysippy930 wrote: »In the town nearest to us (small town population 20,000 with 2 colleges. About 3000 students enrolled at this college) off campus party has resulted in an outbreak of Covid-19 among the party goers. Annual tuition $50,000/year. How are they going to get a grip on COVID-19 with this occurring at universities and colleges across the country? I’m in Minnesota, and the highest rates of new infections is in the 20-30 age group.
It is happening at colleges here in Indiana. One school just kicked out like 36 students for attending a party. The schools had all students sign documents about NOT doing stupid stuff like that. They broke it. They suffered the consequences. Another school is looking into a party there and those students will be kicked out as well when they are identified. The dean has already said that if it continues, they WILL be going all online which has made a lot of other students upset. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.
So, is anyone stocking up any? With flu season coming up along with Covid, I am wondering how much stocking I should do. I did get to Costco today for the first time since February. Picked up paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, steak, salmon, pork chops, and chicken breasts plus a few more items. Also going to stock up on things I use a lot of in the fall/winter like stocks, cream of X soups, "canned" soup, pasta sauce, pasta, and things like that. Plus a few specialty items like coconut aminos. I spoke to my therapist about it and she said as long as I don't get obsessive or let my "anxiety voice" take charge, then it seems like a solid plan. Just still worried that it's too much.
If you will use it before it expires, there should be no need to worry. Here, it's normal to stock up before winter because we never know what will happen with the weather. If stocks run low later, then you won't be part of the problem because you won't need to shop.
Exactly!! And here it is normal to stock up for the hurricane season, but I'm not "normal". I don't even panic when the storm is very near and predicted to unleash imminent destruction. I live life one day at a time, so won't be buying 6 weeks stock of goods for any reason.
I didn't stock up either. I threw almost everything we own on the front lawn because it was soaked in sewage water when we got flooded. That was fun. Isn't life awesome?9 -
I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.6
-
missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
I have not seen Clorox wipes in the stores since early March.
4 -
Lynn, we don't have that brand here but I don't mind posting something similar as a gift to you if you'd like. Let me know.1
-
lynn_glenmont wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
I have not seen Clorox wipes in the stores since early March.
Do you have Clorox/Lysol or similar sprays? I rarely use the pre-wetted wipes at home anyway. Since paper towels came back in stock, it is not an issue to just spray on a paper towel and wipe. This is the old fashioned method that I grew up with, but some of us still do that.4 -
So oddly enough I don't normally watch network TV that much but I had recorded a series starting in early March thru April/May. It's amazing to see how the commercials change thru that time period. So much that I am almost watching the episodes just to see the commercials instead of the show.
At work we had manager zoom training the other day about Covid and guidelines. All I could think of the entire time we were having the training was that in a year from now will any of the training have been valid? Mostly things like when are you contagious and how long to isolate etc.
One thing is for certain EVERYONE will remember the great toilet paper run for the rest of history..
5 -
SummerSkier wrote: »So oddly enough I don't normally watch network TV that much but I had recorded a series starting in early March thru April/May. It's amazing to see how the commercials change thru that time period. So much that I am almost watching the episodes just to see the commercials instead of the show.
At work we had manager zoom training the other day about Covid and guidelines. All I could think of the entire time we were having the training was that in a year from now will any of the training have been valid? Mostly things like when are you contagious and how long to isolate etc.
One thing is for certain EVERYONE will remember the great toilet paper run for the rest of history..
Even the 14 days is changing. At one time, they were requiring people who test positive to have 2 negative tests more than 24 hours apart to be considered Covid-free again. When my mom tested positive, she was told 10 days after symptoms stopped. Partly because they are trying to conserve tests, I think.
The person who works next to me had her grand-daughter sent home from school yesterday and is supposed to quarantine for 14 days because a student sitting next to her tested positive. The mom of this student (contact of a contact) / i.e. my co-worker's daughter is also a teacher and is not being sent home by the school.
Interestingly enough, the State of TN also now says that contacts in the same household need to add 10 days to the 14 and quarantine for 24 days. https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/new-24-day-quarantine-required-for-tennessee-families-after-positive-covid-19-cases5 -
missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
My anxiety has just been getting worse because of the increased infection rates, the news coming out about schools and colleges, and flu season. So I am struggling with making sense if it is my "anxiety brain" wanting to stock up or if it is a logical idea. Seeing that others are grabbing a few items each grocery trip makes me feel better about the idea. I wasn't planning on going crazy (I don't have the space even if I wanted to) but a few boxes of chicken, beef, and veggie broth and a few boxes of cream of chicken and cream of mushroom soup... that sort of thing. Especially since I am more restricted on what brands I can I buy due to food allergies and restrictions. For example, a ton of "cream of..." brands of soup use soy protein or soy sauce in them which I can't have. Same with canned soups. So I would like to be sure I have a handful of those that I know I can safely have.14 -
Athijade, I'm becoming more anxious too, may be many of us are. I feel for you so much having dietary issues. They put soy in so much which makes it so difficult to avoid. You have every reason to have a little store by you if only for when the winter sets in. I hope you can find some help to overcome your soy issues.4
-
missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
My anxiety has just been getting worse because of the increased infection rates, the news coming out about schools and colleges, and flu season. So I am struggling with making sense if it is my "anxiety brain" wanting to stock up or if it is a logical idea. Seeing that others are grabbing a few items each grocery trip makes me feel better about the idea. I wasn't planning on going crazy (I don't have the space even if I wanted to) but a few boxes of chicken, beef, and veggie broth and a few boxes of cream of chicken and cream of mushroom soup... that sort of thing. Especially since I am more restricted on what brands I can I buy due to food allergies and restrictions. For example, a ton of "cream of..." brands of soup use soy protein or soy sauce in them which I can't have. Same with canned soups. So I would like to be sure I have a handful of those that I know I can safely have.
With schools and colleges going back, I also fear new cases are going to start to skyrocket soon (within the next 3 weeks) and will not abate because too few schools and colleges are willing to take the proper actions even after infections have been reported.
I'm extremely nervous because, as a type 1 diabetic, if I get sick, I'm probably going to have uncontrollably high BG's - this is common with any infection. Hyperglycemia will then increase glycosylation of the ACE2 receptors, a condition required for SARS-COV-2 to enter cells. This means the viral load that enters my cells will be higher than a non-diabetic. Meanwhile, the hyperglycemia may also lead to DKA and I'll most likely die from DKA. I really really do not want to get infected and now infections are getting worse and worse. I'm the anxious type anyway, but this is more fear than anxiety.18 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
My anxiety has just been getting worse because of the increased infection rates, the news coming out about schools and colleges, and flu season. So I am struggling with making sense if it is my "anxiety brain" wanting to stock up or if it is a logical idea. Seeing that others are grabbing a few items each grocery trip makes me feel better about the idea. I wasn't planning on going crazy (I don't have the space even if I wanted to) but a few boxes of chicken, beef, and veggie broth and a few boxes of cream of chicken and cream of mushroom soup... that sort of thing. Especially since I am more restricted on what brands I can I buy due to food allergies and restrictions. For example, a ton of "cream of..." brands of soup use soy protein or soy sauce in them which I can't have. Same with canned soups. So I would like to be sure I have a handful of those that I know I can safely have.
With schools and colleges going back, I also fear new cases are going to start to skyrocket soon (within the next 3 weeks) and will not abate because too few schools and colleges are willing to take the proper actions even after infections have been reported.
I'm extremely nervous because, as a type 1 diabetic, if I get sick, I'm probably going to have uncontrollably high BG's - this is common with any infection. Hyperglycemia will then increase glycosylation of the ACE2 receptors, a condition required for SARS-COV-2 to enter cells. This means the viral load that enters my cells will be higher than a non-diabetic. Meanwhile, the hyperglycemia may also lead to DKA and I'll most likely die from DKA. I really really do not want to get infected and now infections are getting worse and worse. I'm the anxious type anyway, but this is more fear than anxiety.
Fear change us.
https://bbc.com/future/article/20200401-covid-19-how-fear-of-coronavirus-is-changing-our-psychology1 -
missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
My anxiety has just been getting worse because of the increased infection rates, the news coming out about schools and colleges, and flu season. So I am struggling with making sense if it is my "anxiety brain" wanting to stock up or if it is a logical idea. Seeing that others are grabbing a few items each grocery trip makes me feel better about the idea. I wasn't planning on going crazy (I don't have the space even if I wanted to) but a few boxes of chicken, beef, and veggie broth and a few boxes of cream of chicken and cream of mushroom soup... that sort of thing. Especially since I am more restricted on what brands I can I buy due to food allergies and restrictions. For example, a ton of "cream of..." brands of soup use soy protein or soy sauce in them which I can't have. Same with canned soups. So I would like to be sure I have a handful of those that I know I can safely have.
Why not both? As far as I'm concerned, stocking up on non-perishables within your budget and space constraints IS a logical idea, that can also soothe your anxiety brain
I used to be a HUGE consumer of news, but this makes me anxious these days, so I cut way back. My gardening group on FaceBook has been a blessing.
I also listen to cooking podcasts more, but this leads me to make more baked goods, not necessarily a good thing
Exercise, especially cardio, helps me manage anxiety, but it has been challenging these days, between the heat trapping me indoors, and issues with my knee, hip, and elbow, but I'm trying to be creative.10 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
I have not seen Clorox wipes in the stores since early March.
Do you have Clorox/Lysol or similar sprays? I rarely use the pre-wetted wipes at home anyway. Since paper towels came back in stock, it is not an issue to just spray on a paper towel and wipe. This is the old fashioned method that I grew up with, but some of us still do that.
Yes, I was able to buy some Clorox wipes recently, but previously I was making bleach spray and spraying it on paper towels.0 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »*kitten* Karen
Went to a roadside produce stand on the edge of our city. Everyone with mask and social distancing. I get in the end of the line, Karen walks up behind me (she was the stereotypical Karen as well as having a personalized "Karen" license plate on her Lexus SUV). Karen wasn't wearing a mask and stood 2 feet away from me. I gave her the stinkeye but she didn't get it. Since I was probably 10 feet behind the person in front of me I moved up a couple feet, Karen moved right with me. At that point I turned and asked if she had any clue what 6 feet was. She mumbled something and walked away.
A true "Karen" would have been in your face chewing you out about her personal freedoms, etc.
Your person was just being clueless.9 -
Listened to an ER doctor on NPR relate their symptoms 6 months after 'Rona. They've not fully recovered yet. Chronic fatigue, hair falling out, brain fog and memory problems and others. Can no longer work fulltime. They're hot off and on throughout the day, low grade fever. Initially, they didn't have the high fever and their symptoms were relatively mild in the first few weeks but they have not recovered. It's almost like being poisoned or having a concussion that will not go away. They're wondering if this will be with them for the rest of their life.
It seems the stronger the amount of saturation, the more 'poisoned' and severe it is. It's like it's a total cluster of viruses thrown together and just a roll of the dice how it will react in your body. Which one will come to center stage and fight against you as the strongest enemy. It's causing organ failure in some with kidneys and livers. It seems like mono, hepatitis and other flu viruses in one and your body must fight against all of it at one time.
We have no idea what the fall and winter will hold for the population. How many will get it all over again without the herd immunity they were banking on. That all fell by the wayside because it is short-lived. It's still a very fluid situation much like it was on Day One.7 -
@MikePfirrman I just want to bounce this off your head. One day there was all of that unrest over yonder and the next day they were dropping like flies. It all stopped. No reply required but that was first thought back then and it's still there. That is all. 0
-
Lynn, we don't have that brand here but I don't mind posting something similar as a gift to you if you'd like. Let me know.
That's very kind, but I should be good for a few more weeks, plus I haven't even tried online, yet. And I have lots of plain bleach, so I could always dilute it and use a cloth rag.
It's interesting how shortages for different products aren't consistent across different areas.
We've long since recovered in the paper products (paper towels, toilet/loo paper, facial tissues), although not the same brands and packaging sizes as we had in the past. I spied my preferred toilet paper last weekend for the first time since March and bought a four-roll pack. Used to be available in nine-roll packs, but not now. And we now have massive cardboard cartons of some unknown brand of toilet paper -- I think it holds at least 20 rolls. Possibly originally intended for sales to businesses, office buildings, etc.0 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m stocking up on canned goods again (so husband will eat if I get sick) and paper products, Clorox wipes and some frozen fruit and veggies. I’m worried about hoarding again with seasonal flu approaching. The leaves are beginning to change, autumn is approaching and with schools starting up, there will be a lot more exposure possible.
I have not seen Clorox wipes in the stores since early March.
Do you have Clorox/Lysol or similar sprays? I rarely use the pre-wetted wipes at home anyway. Since paper towels came back in stock, it is not an issue to just spray on a paper towel and wipe. This is the old fashioned method that I grew up with, but some of us still do that.
I'm nearing the bottom of my last can of Lysol spray and the bottom of a container of Clorox spray. Which I will miss more than the wipes, as I like to directly spray the sink fixtures after I first wash my hands when coming back into the house from outside, before I touch them again to turn the water off.
I used to only use the wipes on the toilet, rather than have to disinfect a cloth after using it on the toilet, which was the old-fashioned method I grew up with But the early covid prevention advice seemed so heavily focused on the dangers of surfaces that I started cleaning frequently touched surfaces with the wipes on a daily basis, which I'm sure many people were doing more frequently, but I live alone and worked from home even before covid, so it's probably overkill, given how few people I've let into the house in the past five months -- one HVAC tech for the spring system checkup, and my similarly isolated brother, who came into the kitchen by himself a few times to manage his own food during a socially distanced backyard meal.
I actually had a pretty big stockpile (accumulated before covid) when this all started, but my brother didn't, so I have shared with him a couple of times. I would never have dreamed that five months on there would still be shortages.
3 -
I still have the can of wipes I bought the first day of the shutdown. They are nearing empty. I have bought wipes twice since then, the second time I gave them all to MIL though.
I work from home. I leave the house to go to church, the gym, and pick up groceries. I sanitize my hands when I get to church and when I get back in the car. I sanitize my hands when I get to the gym and when I get back in the car. I don't usually when I just pick up groceries because I don't leave the car. I wash my hands with soap and water when I get home from anywhere.
That is about all extra I do, well I already washed my hands when I got home from anywhere - the sanitizing is COVID.
I use the disinfecting wipes to clean raw meat/bodily waste messes (including the toilet). I use regular spray cleaner for everything else.
The shortages are not due to people buying wipes entirely, the material used is also used for PPE - so there is a manufacturing shortage.5 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »*kitten* Karen
Went to a roadside produce stand on the edge of our city. Everyone with mask and social distancing. I get in the end of the line, Karen walks up behind me (she was the stereotypical Karen as well as having a personalized "Karen" license plate on her Lexus SUV). Karen wasn't wearing a mask and stood 2 feet away from me. I gave her the stinkeye but she didn't get it. Since I was probably 10 feet behind the person in front of me I moved up a couple feet, Karen moved right with me. At that point I turned and asked if she had any clue what 6 feet was. She mumbled something and walked away.
A true "Karen" would have been in your face chewing you out about her personal freedoms, etc.
Your person was just being clueless.
I always find it funny when Karen is stereotyped as someone who won't wear a mask, as usually it's someone threatening to call the authorities/manager on someone allegedly not following the rules. In my (increasingly toxic) NextDoor, there are endless threads about people not wearing masks in circumstances people think they should (usually outside but not social distancing)* and the complainers (even though they don't do anything but complain on social media) get called Karens. Similarly, when fireworks were never-ending (starting WAY before the 4th), people who vented online (again, without doing anything more) were called "no-fun Karens." (In both cases the people who employed the "Karen" name-calling were in the minority.
I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but given how widely it gets used for completely different things I now think it means "not especially young woman who does something that I find annoying." (Plus I have a friend named Karen and feel a bit bad for all Karens everywhere.)
Ah, well! ;-) It doesn't really bug me that much, I just find it a bit incoherent.9
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 396.5K Introduce Yourself
- 44.2K Getting Started
- 260.8K Health and Weight Loss
- 176.3K Food and Nutrition
- 47.6K Recipes
- 232.8K Fitness and Exercise
- 449 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.7K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153.3K Motivation and Support
- 8.3K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.5K Chit-Chat
- 2.6K Fun and Games
- 4.5K MyFitnessPal Information
- 16 News and Announcements
- 18 MyFitnessPal Academy
- 1.4K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 3K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions