Coronavirus prep

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  • Theoldguy1
    Theoldguy1 Posts: 2,494 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.

    I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.

    See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.

    Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).

    Think it would have been virtually impossible to check that many people at an area that really isn't designed as a concert venue.
  • Theoldguy1
    Theoldguy1 Posts: 2,494 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.

    I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.

    See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.

    Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).

    Think it would have been virtually impossible to check that many people at an area that really isn't designed as a concert venue.

    Lolla concert-goers were required to show either proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test within 3 days prior.

    https://support.lollapalooza.com/hc/en-us/articles/4403048984852-Covid-19-Health-Policy-and-Lollapalooza-Entry-Requirements

    Interesting, can't imagine a fair number didn't slip by.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.

    I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.

    See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.

    Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).

    Think it would have been virtually impossible to check that many people at an area that really isn't designed as a concert venue.

    They were checking. You just also could have a negative test (w/in 72 hours).
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited August 2021
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.

    If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.


    I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.

    I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.

    I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all. :(
    Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?

    The way to keep an eye on that is the positivity rate. When I checked a couple of days ago NH had a low positivity rate, so it appears people are getting tested or at least that the low numbers aren't simply due to low tests.
  • 33gail33
    33gail33 Posts: 1,155 Member
    ythannah wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?

    Hard not to get "political". I think we've heard me rant about a certain province and about the "feeling" that once we've been vaccinated we're good to go hug everyone without masks or restrictions and no matter what.

    Up to now I haven't encouraged my dad to move out of "that" province because a) he has built his life and support network there and because b) I've felt that him moving to a congregate facility currently represents a risk that he can/could still afford to avoid by remaining home alone c) I was hoping that things would improve so that he could move to an independent living facility near his current location so as to retain contact with people he knows

    With the decision to hide our head in the sand and avoid further testing (as of the end of August testing in Alberta will only be available when your doctor feels that testing you for COVID is relevant in terms of providing care to you), and with the general anti-masking attitude in the province (here's looking at you Superstore employees not wearing masks... oh, sorry, I'm not looking, because I'm shopping at Walmart where they do wear them)... anyway, I am seriously considering whether it is time to start arguing for him to move to an independent living facility in another province where we still consider masking indoors to be appropriate and closer to where I live.

    Throughout all of this I have been incredibly thankful that my frail, mobility-impaired 82 year old father has continued to live independently in his own home, even though it has meant an extra house for me to maintain. At least he's been safe.

    I don't know if you have Chartwell homes there, or if his budget can accommodate the price tag, but they fared very well locally. Not a single outbreak.

    You heard a lot about how bad the homes were - but my mom lives in a Chartwell retirement home that had an "outbreak" in Dec/Jan before they were vaccinated. Three people tested positive, all staff, not one resident got infected. (But yeah it costs me almost $5000 a month.)
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Looking into Chartwell, thank you for the tip.

    There are several in a circle around my home location and also some in Edmonton and Calgary but none in a three hour radius from dad's current location...

    I don't believe any of the three we checked out near dad actually got outbreaks; but they were extensively locked down with visitors banned.

    I know that near home at least three of the places we looked at and were considering had outbreaks and at least one death each.