My Experience with Dr. Oz Detox/Cleanse Smoothies

deksgrl

And to the ones complaining about the snark...well, you're in a community full of people who have tried every milkshake, pill and trick in the book, and who KNOW it's all pseudosciencey BS. When I see responses from people who have lost 50, 100, 200 pounds in a healthy, sustainable way...yeah, I'll listen to them over Dr. Oz or any other shill.

Whatever the reason, it's hard for me to grasp that there are folks who believe, especially in a public forum or 'community full of people' like this, that sarcasm and 'snark' are helpful ways of communicating valuable information, or that that sort of tone provides effective support. A demeaning tone seems more likely to end participation and discussion, rather than encourage it, which, imo, is unfortunate.

Well, you can't control the reaction you're going to get from a public post so there's no point in being butthurt over it. I've only been reading the forums for a short while and cleansing/detoxing/magic potion/latest fad comes up basically every day so I think as a community MFP is "over it" and has lost patience. The OP even started with "If you don't like Dr. Oz or have your arguments over detox and cleansing that's fine"...so she knows.

I 'm not sure anyone's 'butthurt over it'. The point is, especially in an environment where people are feeling somewhat insecure and vulnerable, (and folks who have been battling weight issues often are), that rude and sarcastic feedback is more likely to end discussion than encourage it. On the other hand, thoughtful, honest, respectful feedback is more likely to be heard and invite discussion.

Oh, really? Because we have had this discussion several thousand times on this site.

I wish it were that easy to end these types of discussions. We don't want these types of discussions here. So anything that shortens them is good thing.

So, cat gifs!!

skullshank

Whatever a least I don't believe in pizza, and those juices are blended vegetables!

i cant even....

is this.....

missomgitsica

Lol I stoppd reading after 3 days. Lots of things are doable for 3 days . . . let us know how you feel after 2 or 3 weeks of this crap.

smittybuilt19

What do I have to do to get a strike around here


Someone please report me for being obscene.


Maybe something off topic...I like diet Dr. Pepper. If you don't like diet Dr. Pepper, you are an *kitten* hole.

_HeartsOnFire_

Oh, really? Because we have had this discussion several thousand times on this site.

I wish it were that easy to end these types of discussions. We don't want these types of discussions here. So anything that shortens them is good thing.

So, cat gifs!!

cat gif's it is!

Othelie157

A little of topic, but I laughed when I saw you use your Wii as your scale, I was pretty sure I was the only one who did that.

As for the smoothies, it's to expensive for my taste (and have to much kale in it for my taste) and I like food that I can chew. But if you like it then good for you for finding something you like.

MaryJane_8810002

I stopped reading after I saw Dr. Oz

thesupremeforce

Whatever a least I don't believe in pizza, and those juices are blended vegetables!

You'll get a lot further eating pizza than you would sucking down nothing but liquefied vegetables, especially since dropping some veggies on a pizza tends to work better than tossing some chicken, beef or pork into the blender for a smoothie.

Really? I watched an episode of Extreme Eaters where a guy ate nothing but pizza for years. Eventually, he was throwing up every morning and having terrible headaches. It turned out that his body had developed a toxic response to the dairy from being overwhelmed with it. Some pizza is fine, but I think the smoothies are probably healthier. I read the recipes and other than being too low cal to be permanent, they seem pretty healthy. I don't see what the big concern is.

I wasn't concerned. I was merely responding to a ridiculous comment with something that made roughly the same amount of sense. I will, however, make a note of this for the next time someone attempts to over-cheese my pizza, since I'd hate to develop life-threatening cheese toxicity.

lovelayla

Because if THIS and all the other BULLY stuff going on I just discover the BLOCK USER feature! There seems to be a group of people that lost weight and make it their business to jump on EVERY thread that does no agree with Their way and insult people.YOU were once trying to lose weight too,and there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss! She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

Zaftique

This and if all you have is sugar coated *kitten*, it's still just *kitten* isn't it? (this is NOT meant to be mean or rude or whatever it is you want to call it. I'm just saying.)

I came in here solely to steal this .gif.

*yoink*

_HeartsOnFire_

Because if THIS and all the other BULLY stuff going on I just discover the BLOCK USER feature! There seems to be a group of people that lost weight and make it their business to jump on EVERY thread that does no agree with Their way and insult people.YOU were once trying to lose weight too,and there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss! She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

Again, disagreement does not equal rude and it certainly doesn't equal bully. You might want to learn those definitions.

I'll make it easy for you...
bul·ly1 [bool-ee] noun, plural bul·lies. 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

Of which NO one is doing...

rude [rood] adjective, rud·er, rud·est. 1. discourteous or impolite, especially in a deliberate way: a rude reply.

Honest answers does NOT equal rude.

There are a couple posts a couple pages back explaining why people who disagree post in these threads. So you MAY want to go check those out and try to understand why these threads can actually be harmful to new users. I know it's 8 pages and a lot of reading, but I know you can do it. I have faith.

Here's a cute cat for you. So you don't think I'm mean.

ComradeTovarich

Because if THIS and all the other BULLY stuff going on I just discover the BLOCK USER feature! There seems to be a group of people that lost weight and make it their business to jump on EVERY thread that does no agree with Their way and insult people.YOU were once trying to lose weight too,and there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss! She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

Yeah guys! Stop telling the truth! It's mean!

deksgrl

Again, disagreement does not equal rude and it certainly doesn't equal bully. You might want to learn those definitions.

I'll make it easy for you...
bul·ly1 [bool-ee] noun, plural bul·lies. 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

Of which NO one is doing...

rude [rood] adjective, rud·er, rud·est. 1. discourteous or impolite, especially in a deliberate way: a rude reply.

Honest answers does NOT equal rude.

There are a couple posts a couple pages back explaining why people who disagree post in these threads. So you MAY want to go check those out and try to understand why these threads can actually be harmful to new users. I know it's 8 pages and a lot of reading, but I know you can do it. I have faith.

Here, I'll even help by pulling this one which I thought explained it nicely:

Misinformation is ALWAYS HARMFUL. Maybe drinking juice for 3 days won't cause any noticeable, physical harm. But the attitude that even though science tells us there's no benefit to detoxing we're just going to do it anyway, and anyone who thinks it's a bad idea should just STFU, is harmful.

It's the same attitude that has caused my MiL to take my 16-year-old sister-in-law to a naturopath who consults with the spirits instead of to a real doctor. Anti-science sentiments do cause harm. To believe that they don't is naive.

sue_langley

What a great feeling. Let me know when you do it again. I will do it with you.

smelius22

Congrats on completing your challenge, I'm glad it has made you happy!

side note: It is annoying me that so many posters are being so negative and saying that OP thinks this is a "magical recipe" that will make her lose weight.. that's not at all the idea I got when I read the whole post (unlike most who only read parts or didn't read it at all, yet somehow have an opinion on it).

Good luck on your journey to healthy eating!

daybehavior

there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss!

Uh yeah there is. It's called move more, eat less. Mind blowing I know.

She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

This is a message board, not a profile wall

lovelayla

Because if THIS and all the other BULLY stuff going on I just discover the BLOCK USER feature! There seems to be a group of people that lost weight and make it their business to jump on EVERY thread that does no agree with Their way and insult people.YOU were once trying to lose weight too,and there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss! She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

Again, disagreement does not equal rude and it certainly doesn't equal bully. You might want to learn those definitions.

I'll make it easy for you...


bul·ly1 [bool-ee] noun, plural bul·lies. 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

Of which NO one is doing...

rude [rood] adjective, rud·er, rud·est. 1. discourteous or impolite, especially in a deliberate way: a rude reply.

Honest answers does NOT equal rude.

There are a couple posts a couple pages back explaining why people who disagree post in these threads. So you MAY want to go check those out and try to understand why these threads can actually be harmful to new users. I know it's 8 pages and a lot of reading, but I know you can do it. I have faith.

Here's a cute cat for you. So you don't think I'm mean.

That is Exactly what is going on.I have something for you too and it ain't my pinky.

_HeartsOnFire_

Congrats on completing your challenge, I'm glad it has made you happy!

side note: It is annoying me that so many posters are being so negative and saying that OP thinks this is a "magical recipe" that will make her lose weight.. that's not at all the idea I got when I read the whole post (unlike most who only read parts or didn't read it at all, yet somehow have an opinion on it).

Good luck on your journey to healthy eating!

Last time...

Disagreement or honesty does not equal negativity.

if you sugar coat *kitten* it's still just *kitten*.

RinnyLush

I believe in pizza...

ThickMcRunFast

Wait...

Someone doesn't believe in pizza?

lovelayla

The BLOCK USER feature is under the persons user name where you find their profile information......for those who messaged me.

_HeartsOnFire_

Because if THIS and all the other BULLY stuff going on I just discover the BLOCK USER feature! There seems to be a group of people that lost weight and make it their business to jump on EVERY thread that does no agree with Their way and insult people.YOU were once trying to lose weight too,and there is NO one sized fits all approach to weight loss! She came to share HER experience....she DID not ask for your RUDE advice.

Again, disagreement does not equal rude and it certainly doesn't equal bully. You might want to learn those definitions.

I'll make it easy for you...


bul·ly1 [bool-ee] noun, plural bul·lies. 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

Of which NO one is doing...

rude [rood] adjective, rud·er, rud·est. 1. discourteous or impolite, especially in a deliberate way: a rude reply.

Honest answers does NOT equal rude.

There are a couple posts a couple pages back explaining why people who disagree post in these threads. So you MAY want to go check those out and try to understand why these threads can actually be harmful to new users. I know it's 8 pages and a lot of reading, but I know you can do it. I have faith.

Here's a cute cat for you. So you don't think I'm mean.

That is Exactly what is going on.I have something for you too and it ain't my pinky.

I can tell you're real classy.

I'm gonna leave this here for you...


Lastly...from...this article...http://www.forgetlimits.com/name-calling-is-the-sign-of-a-weak-argument/

Rather than admit a mistake, when an argument is blown away, most people resort to “Plan B” – the personal attack. If a victory cannot be one on the battleground of ideas, one must try to make the opponent out to be defective. That’s when the name calling starts. It’s an attempt to save face and resurrect a dead argument.

I will tell you that it became easier once I began to see their taunts for what they really are… a sign of desperation. Now, I start to grin (on the inside) as soon as the name calling starts because I know that I’ve got them and I just won this debate (argument).

ComradeTovarich

Uh yeah there is. It's called move more, eat less. Mind blowing I know.

psych101

That is Exactly what is going on.I have something for you too and it ain't my pinky.

wow, now see that IS rude

skullshank

That is Exactly what is going on.I have something for you too and it ain't my pinky.

unless it's real food, then

smelius22

Congrats on completing your challenge, I'm glad it has made you happy!

side note: It is annoying me that so many posters are being so negative and saying that OP thinks this is a "magical recipe" that will make her lose weight.. that's not at all the idea I got when I read the whole post (unlike most who only read parts or didn't read it at all, yet somehow have an opinion on it).

Good luck on your journey to healthy eating!

Last time...

Disagreement or honesty does not equal negativity.

if you sugar coat *kitten* it's still just *kitten*.

totally understand that some people on here have simply disagreed, but then there are others who have made a point to be rude about it.

also, if she had instead chosen to go home and drink smoothies that included fruits and veggies for 3 days without mentioning "cleanse" or "dr oz," would that have been okay? I don't think there would have been such a disagreement about it if it happened that way.

lovelayla

You can disagree without being RUDE and snarky.I love a good debate/discussion but making fun of people who are sharing an experience is uncalled for.The op did not ask for advice,so everyone who disagreed should have never entered the thread.The title was not asking for advice,it was SHARING an experience......not sure why that is hard to comprehend...Your responses are off the topic.

ThickMcRunFast

lovelayla

The BLOCK USER feature is under the persons user name where you find their profile information......for those who messaged me.

Cowards way out

Here we go with the name calling...I feel sad for you that you have to insult people to feel better.

_HeartsOnFire_

You can disagree without being RUDE and snarky.I love a good debate/discussion but making fun of people who are sharing an experience is uncalled for.The op did not ask for advice,so everyone who disagreed should have never entered the thread.The title was not asking for advice,it was SHARING an experience......not sure why that is hard to comprehend...Your responses are off the topic.

Again, let's sum this up for you.

Threads like these can be harmful. If you don't understand that, then again, see Deksgrl who explained it for you in a short version and if you want the long version it's a couple pages back.

My responses aren't off topic, I'm replying to you who came in here and called everyone rude and bullies, which is simply not true.