Dairy Alarmism
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...however, if you want to be worried, be worried about Big Brussels Sprouts. now *THAT* is a cabal with truly evil intentions.
thats why we need to eat them quickly before they eat us!
eat brussels sprouts? :noway:
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hippie!
thank you for the compliment
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People have been consuming dairy loooong before the dairy industryI haven't seen anything beyond alarmism and agenda-pushing.
it is in fact the dairy industry that is agenda-pushing by making people believe dairy is good for them. oh the money that can be made off gambling with other peoples health!0 -
People have been consuming dairy loooong before the dairy industryI haven't seen anything beyond alarmism and agenda-pushing.
it is in fact the dairy industry that is agenda-pushing by making people believe dairy is good for them. oh the money that can be made off gambling with other peoples health!
I'm more concerned about the organic vegetable industry pushing vegetables that can kill you. More pesticides please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis0 -
yes, when it was all they had, because its better than starving or living on potatoes alone. and from an ethical point of view: back in the day they didnt have mass dairy farms like today. we have unlearned moderation.0
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I'm more concerned about the organic vegetable industry pushing vegetables that can kill you. More pesticides please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis
wow thats gross
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That's just downright logical. How dare you bring logic into a MFP forum. Be prepared, the dairy industry plants are about to try and discredit you......My only question about dairy (and I am a huge ice cream lover) is that, at its foremost, it is food intended for a baby cow. Humans, as should come as no surprise, have nutrition requirements that are MILES away from a cow. Take a look at the constituents of bovine milk vs. human milk. It is pretty interesting. Is it the best thing to use dairy products formulated for a species so vastly different from our own? That is what makes me wonder. Of course, not when I eat my appropriate serving of Ben & Jerry's ice cream!
Edited to add: be wary when using the UDSA to evaluate meat and milk. The USDA's mission (at least one of them) is to promote our over-consumption of meat and dairy. That is why our food pyramids, for so long, has pushed meat, dairy, and cheese as particularly healthy. They are all loaded with saturated fats! There is a really good study out there about dairy, but I don't have my notes in front of me. I think it was the Nurses Heart research study or something like that. Try googling it. It is a real an eye opener about dairy.
LOL, more like a downright logical fallacy.0 -
Huh? We've been keeping cattle for thousands of years. We've been drinking milk and eating cheese for those same thousands of years (around 10,000 I believe.) To say that dairy isn't good for us, and to even make the claim that the dairy industry is responsible for people thinking that dairy is healthy, is absolutely laughable.yes, when it was all they had, because its better than starving or living on potatoes alone. and from an ethical point of view: back in the day they didnt have mass dairy farms like today. we have unlearned moderation.
By the time humans were drinking cow's milk, we were an agricultural species, farming crops and growing livestock. It wasn't something that we needed to prevent starving. It was something that we realized we could thrive on, and we know now that it's due to its nearly perfect nutrient ratio.0 -
People have been consuming dairy loooong before the dairy industryI haven't seen anything beyond alarmism and agenda-pushing.
it is in fact the dairy industry that is agenda-pushing by making people believe dairy is good for them. oh the money that can be made off gambling with other peoples health!
I'm more concerned about the organic vegetable industry pushing vegetables that can kill you. More pesticides please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis
Or you could, you know, just wash your veggies..... You should be doing that with the pesticides too.0 -
^^^^ See, told ya.
That's just downright logical. How dare you bring logic into a MFP forum. Be prepared, the dairy industry plants are about to try and discredit you......My only question about dairy (and I am a huge ice cream lover) is that, at its foremost, it is food intended for a baby cow. Humans, as should come as no surprise, have nutrition requirements that are MILES away from a cow. Take a look at the constituents of bovine milk vs. human milk. It is pretty interesting. Is it the best thing to use dairy products formulated for a species so vastly different from our own? That is what makes me wonder. Of course, not when I eat my appropriate serving of Ben & Jerry's ice cream!
Edited to add: be wary when using the UDSA to evaluate meat and milk. The USDA's mission (at least one of them) is to promote our over-consumption of meat and dairy. That is why our food pyramids, for so long, has pushed meat, dairy, and cheese as particularly healthy. They are all loaded with saturated fats! There is a really good study out there about dairy, but I don't have my notes in front of me. I think it was the Nurses Heart research study or something like that. Try googling it. It is a real an eye opener about dairy.
LOL, more like a downright logical fallacy.0 -
^^^^ See, told ya.
That's just downright logical. How dare you bring logic into a MFP forum. Be prepared, the dairy industry plants are about to try and discredit you......My only question about dairy (and I am a huge ice cream lover) is that, at its foremost, it is food intended for a baby cow. Humans, as should come as no surprise, have nutrition requirements that are MILES away from a cow. Take a look at the constituents of bovine milk vs. human milk. It is pretty interesting. Is it the best thing to use dairy products formulated for a species so vastly different from our own? That is what makes me wonder. Of course, not when I eat my appropriate serving of Ben & Jerry's ice cream!
Edited to add: be wary when using the UDSA to evaluate meat and milk. The USDA's mission (at least one of them) is to promote our over-consumption of meat and dairy. That is why our food pyramids, for so long, has pushed meat, dairy, and cheese as particularly healthy. They are all loaded with saturated fats! There is a really good study out there about dairy, but I don't have my notes in front of me. I think it was the Nurses Heart research study or something like that. Try googling it. It is a real an eye opener about dairy.
LOL, more like a downright logical fallacy.
Dairy is fine... saturated fat is fine... you've told us nothing.0 -
Sweet ,my check from the Dairy Farmers of America just arrived in the mail!
So glad I opted for direct deposit. Mine deposited last week. I bought cheese with it!
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/thread LOLa dairy cow ran over my wife and slept with my cat.
so, i'm opposed to dairy.0 -
My only question about dairy (and I am a huge ice cream lover) is that, at its foremost, it is food intended for a baby cow. Humans, as should come as no surprise, have nutrition requirements that are MILES away from a cow. Take a look at the constituents of bovine milk vs. human milk. It is pretty interesting. Is it the best thing to use dairy products formulated for a species so vastly different from our own? That is what makes me wonder. Of course, not when I eat my appropriate serving of Ben & Jerry's ice cream!
Edited to add: be wary when using the UDSA to evaluate meat and milk. The USDA's mission (at least one of them) is to promote our over-consumption of meat and dairy. That is why our food pyramids, for so long, has pushed meat, dairy, and cheese as particularly healthy. They are all loaded with saturated fats! There is a really good study out there about dairy, but I don't have my notes in front of me. I think it was the Nurses Heart research study or something like that. Try googling it. It is a real an eye opener about dairy.
Not sure if anyone has actually answered this question, but I just want to point out that the ratio of milk to other foods in the diets of calfs is also vastly different from our own.
Our diet is not primarily cow's milk.0 -
No no no, the pro dairy side doesn't give a **** if you want to drink milk or not. The anti dairy side is strongly against anyone drinking milk. Big difference.
Got Milk?
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. If you are, you're wrong*. There's big money promoting dairy, especially milk. The latest TV ads have milk splashing all over stuff. (I'll have to pay more attention next time to see why milk is splattering everywhere.) There's no comparison to the anti dairy industry, mostly because there is no anti dairy industry.
* Maybe you were talking strictly about people on this forum. If so, I'd agree with you for the most part.0 -
People can choose to drink it or not, make a decision and move on. Geez us.0
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