Dairy Alarmism
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ok, that gets into an argument about being "natural" and blah blah, and the ultimate comeback becomes anyone who eats a fruit or vegetable grown out of season or not in their native area that complains about something being "natural" then they are ultimately as big of a hypocrit as anyone else...
so basically we're all just blowing hot air...
hahaha yes, pretty much a summary of how all the threads end here. It's really ridiculous to talk about how dairy is unnatural. If we go there pretty much nothing is natural so we shouldn't eat anything.0 -
Whoever wrote that morally opposed comment does not get to speak for me. It's bad for human health, and that has nothing to do with morals.
because he is morally opposed to it...
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
Why is cows milk bad for humans?
Sounds legit. :yawn:
Not sure who wrote it, though, because this thread looks like this to me:
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Just because we make other mistakes as a species does not make this one is ok.
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
AH! And here is the flaw in your logic. We are also the only animals to not only PLAN crops but to then harvest them. We are the only ones to cook. We also invent and improve. There are a LOT of things that humans do that our animal counterparts don't do or don't do as much of or to the same extent.. Like processing food. Baby food or juiced foods being one that we do for our young and continue to do into adulthood. It's what makes us different is finding the things that can benefit us and then using those items, ideas, innovations, and improvements to continue our species and allow it to THRIVE. And we have. And humans are NOT carnivores -- we are OMNIVORES. As another poster has explained. Several times. Who actually works in the field of human history and evolution and backs up ALL of the info with facts.0 -
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Whoever wrote that morally opposed comment does not get to speak for me. It's bad for human health, and that has nothing to do with morals.
because he is morally opposed to it...
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
Why is cows milk bad for humans?
Sounds legit. :yawn:
Not sure who wrote it, though, because this thread looks like this to me:
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
Yeah, I had you on ignore until this thread also. But if you can't rationally debate with so many different people, then perhaps the problem lies somewhere other than where you think it does. :huh:0 -
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And no real answer provided, again.
Whoever wrote that morally opposed comment does not get to speak for me. It's bad for human health, and that has nothing to do with morals.
because he is morally opposed to it...
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
Why is cows milk bad for humans?
Sounds legit. :yawn:
Not sure who wrote it, though, because this thread looks like this to me:
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
I guess it's easier to just block anyone who asks for actual evidence instead of actually providing it.
No kidding. You don't learn new things or ideas from people you agree with...0 -
Whoever wrote that morally opposed comment does not get to speak for me. It's bad for human health, and that has nothing to do with morals.
because he is morally opposed to it...
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
Why is cows milk bad for humans?
Sounds legit. :yawn:
Not sure who wrote it, though, because this thread looks like this to me:
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
Yeah, I had you on ignore until this thread also. But if you can't rationally debate with so many different people, then perhaps the problem lies somewhere other than where you think it does. :huh:
Whatever, they're ALL industry plants out to destroy us.
LA, LA, LA, LA .... I can't hear you!0 -
This thread would still be on page one if you guys would quit quoting each other.0
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Just because we make other mistakes as a species does not make this one is ok.AH! And here is the flaw in your logic. We are also the only animals to not only PLAN crops but to then harvest them. We are the only ones to cook. We also invent and improve. There are a LOT of things that humans do that our animal counterparts don't do or don't do as much of or to the same extent.. Like processing food. Baby food or juiced foods being one that we do for our young and continue to do into adulthood. It's what makes us different is finding the things that can benefit us and then using those items, ideas, innovations, and improvements to continue our species and allow it to THRIVE. And we have. And humans are NOT carnivores -- we are OMNIVORES. As another poster has explained. Several times. Who actually works in the field of human history and evolution and backs up ALL of the info with facts.
Cooking food is a mistake?!
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Drink Beer instead... problem solved0
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i honestly dont understand why people cant have different opinions and believe in different things and still not be nasty? also, not everyone who is against dairy is out to convert everyone, some just want to state their opinion, as it is their right. its fine if you say you disagree or you havent seen proof, etc.. but its not ok to insult people for having different beliefs.
so you love milk, noone was attacking you! noone calls you dilusional. noone ridicules you. so please dont attack people who dont agree with the milk industry, thanks.
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Marionmmm and Spicesoflife, thank you for both making sense.0
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i honestly dont understand why people cant have different opinions and believe in different things and still not be nasty? also, not everyone who is against dairy is out to convert everyone, some just want to state their opinion, as it is their right. its fine if you say you disagree or you havent seen proof, etc.. but its not ok to insult people for having different beliefs.
so you love milk, noone was attacking you! noone calls you dilusional. noone ridicules you. so please dont attack people who dont agree with the milk industry, thanks.
I agree with you, but the insults have been flying from both directions.
It's unfortunate that we can't disagree while still treating each other with some respect.0 -
I agree with you, but the insults have been flying from both directions.
It's unfortunate that we can't disagree while still treating each other with some respect.
but in self defense, if i remember correctly.. :P0 -
I think as long as it's in moderation, nothing is off limits!0
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I agree with you, but the insults have been flying from both directions.
It's unfortunate that we can't disagree while still treating each other with some respect.
but in self defense, if i remember correctly.. :P
You could be right. This thread is too long to reread.0 -
I think as long as it's in moderation, nothing is off limits!
Except pineapple.0 -
I'm allergic to all forms of dairy. Whey, Lactose, Casein...apparently there are more people in the world that can't tolerate dairy as apposed to those that can (No I don't have scientific stats to back me up, I'm just going by what my doctor and nutrionist said), however if I could, I would EAT ALL THE ICECREAM!!! Be thankful that you can handle such a high protein source, the rest of us have to spend tons of money for dairy free protein powder and consume a lot more food to get our calcium intake up. I fear osteoporosis.0
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You could be right. This thread is too long to reread.
that it is.. also i think this is my stop
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Whoever wrote that morally opposed comment does not get to speak for me. It's bad for human health, and that has nothing to do with morals.
because he is morally opposed to it...
I noticed, but i still think cow's milk is not a good food for humans. We are the only species who makes a daily habit of harvesting and processing the milk from another species, and then consuming it long into adulthood.The ones drinking milk in this pic are:
babies
carnivores
Human adults are neither.
True; however, I don't know if you noticed but she referred to the line that said "we are the only mammals that consume milk from another mammal".
Why is cows milk bad for humans?
Sounds legit. :yawn:
Not sure who wrote it, though, because this thread looks like this to me:
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
You are ignoring this user undo
Wow, so that is how you are. I suspected that. You really don't care about other peoples opinions or facts. You have your opinion without fact and that is all that matters. You don't have science to back it up, just YOUR OPINION. I have been seeing you post a lot the last few days and every time I see your name my first thought is I sure hope you are not this opinionated outside the forums because if you are I would expect there to be some emergency room visits. I have met people that act like you outside the internetz in the past and most are not well liked.
By the way, that video you posted was a very poor descriptor of what it is really like on a dairy farm. Nothing like someone taking a hidden video and then editing it to show only what they want. I used to work on a dairy farm and it was nothing like that.
We love milk (family goes through 3 - 4 gallons a week), cheese, yogurt, butter and cheese in our house.
Also, to those on his blocked list. Kudos!!!!!!!!0 -
No worries, I'm sure a certain someone will come along soon to tell you that diary causes osteoporosis.I'm allergic to all forms of dairy. Whey, Lactose, Casein...apparently there are more people in the world that can't tolerate dairy as apposed to those that can (No I don't have scientific stats to back me up, I'm just going by what my doctor and nutrionist said), however if I could, I would EAT ALL THE ICECREAM!!! Be thankful that you can handle such a high protein source, the rest of us have to spend tons of money for dairy free protein powder and consume a lot more food to get our calcium intake up. I fear osteoporosis.
EDIT: Oh, and he'll also say you don't need much protein at all and it's just a conspiracy.0 -
I agree with you, but the insults have been flying from both directions.
It's unfortunate that we can't disagree while still treating each other with some respect.
but in self defense, if i remember correctly.. :P
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This thread would still be on page one if you guys would quit quoting each other.
Each page has X number of posts. It doesn't matter how big or small those posts are... so quoting doesn't do anything other than shrink the scroll bar.0 -
Cooking food is a mistake?!
(edited to narrow down the quotes.. ;D)
According to him, yes. He is a raw vegan, IIRC.0 -
This thread would still be on page one if you guys would quit quoting each other.
Each page has X number of posts. It doesn't matter how big or small those posts are... so quoting doesn't do anything other than shrink the scroll bar.
Oh. I stand corrected.
Then how about this:
My eyes wouldn't be all worn out if you guys would quit quoting each other.0 -
Then how about this:
My eyes wouldn't be all worn out if you guys would quit quoting each other.
seriously, it isn't that hard to delete the quotes of quotes you don't need and only quote what you're replying to.0 -
No i'm not a raw vegan, but i'm close. Cooked food is not as nutritious as raw fruits and veg.Cooking food is a mistake?!
(edited to narrow down the quotes.. ;D)
According to him, yes. He is a raw vegan, IIRC.0 -
True, John.
Also, it'd be nice if the quotes included names. As entertaining as some of these arguments are, it's hard to remember who's arguing with who.0
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