Guns??
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If you are knowledgeable about guns, there is nothing wrong with owning them.
Be educated and smart about them.
We own two
I agree with this too. I would only add, learn how to shoot it.
This this this!
Guns shouldn't be treated lightly as when handled by the wrong or untrained person, can be very dangerous.
However, I think of it as anything else....a car can be dangerous too if you don't know what the hell you are doing.
Guns themselves are not the problem...the people who abuse them are. The same people who could abuse a baseball bat, car, wrench, etc etc etc.
That being said...if a gun is on a gift list for a house that is trained with guns and knows teh safety, why not?!0 -
Wise wordsWithout guns, the Brits would be speaking German, and the USA would be speaking Japanese.
Guns are merely an instrument. It takes a person to make an instrument dangerous.
Why don't we give a nuclear weapon to everyone then?
Of course it is people who make a "tool" (weapon) dangerous or not, but then the real question is: where do you draw the line?
Fork? Knife? Gun? Rocket launcher? Tank? Nuclear weapon?
You guys just think the limit is at "guns". Fine.
I'm trying to understand how your comments thus far have anything to do with the OPs original question.
1) Can you please reply this to everyone who did not reply directly to OP, so that this thread becomes really interesting... not. (also neither can I see either how your more recent comments are helping, so I am not sure what you are trying to do here and not really interested in knowing to be honest with you)
2) Also about 10 minutes ago, I edited my original post (first page), so please go back and read it for my opinion on OP's question if you are that much interested.0 -
My guns are for protection only, there's nothing wrong with having a gun in the house as long as you are responsible with it, and lock it up so that your kids don't get to it. If someone decides to break in my house and my family is there, I would want to have something to protect my family with. Pray about it and go from there, GOOD LUCK0
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I would love a gun as a gift... wanted one for Christmas but license appointment pushed till Jan so it's now going to be a Feb birthday present.
My household right now consists of myself and my husband. He is law enforcement - is trained and carries loaded for work.
I have taken the required safety courses and got comfortable with guns. I have no problems with them. I want to be able to defend myself, home, and family should the need arise.
I'm not going to debate the whole gun control thing - the fact is - criminals don't obey laws - and they will buy guns from other criminals.
Anyway - I think it's an awesome gift:) They aren't cheap. If your household is comfortable with them I think it's great.0 -
I would not personally buy a gun as a gift for someone, but that's just my personal comfort level. I do not want guns in my house. I grew up in a home with guns, my Dad took me out on the farm and taught me to shoot handguns, rifles, etc. So it's not like I was not around them. I just simply do not want them in my home at this time.
But the question is not about me, it's about OP. OP I would take into consideration whether the people in the home are already familiar with safety, proper handling, etc. I would consider whether everyone would be comfortable having a firearm in the home and handling it if necessary. And I would consider the reason why it's been requested. I'd think on it and then I would decide.0 -
I am in the UK, so the image of guns is completely different here, as in they are illegal, but there is no way in a million years I would ever allow a gun in the house with my children.
Countries with more guns have more gun crime. At least here the teenagers only manage to stab each other.
If countries where the public has more guns have more crime, what do you call all of the riots going on in the UK right now? Also take a real look at the statistics not what you are being spoon fed. Haven't you heard of unground sales of illegal guns? Criminals will find a way to get guns whether they are illegal or not. Making something illegal doesn't make it impossible to get... look at the drug trade.
^This. Laws against guns just prevent the people who dont commit the crimes from getting them. Criminals will always find a way to get what they want, regardless of laws. If you think guns cause crime.......i dunno what to even say about that. Guns cause crime like flies cause trash /facepalm0 -
I'm completely terrified of guns and don't prefer to have them around at all (grew up with them and had a neighbor lose their infant daughter when their 6 year old son was able to unlock the cabinet and also the seperate safe that had bullets, loaded it and accidentally killed his little sister thinking it was all in fun). It all terrified me with kids in the house and thankfully my hubby also hates guns. So for us it's a no brainer - no guns. I also don't like sharp knives in the house. My husband is a meat cutter by trade and if he has to bring home a knife I get all freaked out and make him put it in a locked box super high up.
I think it's also a total personal preference and everyone has their own experiences. I'm wimpier then most by nature.0 -
I am in the UK, so the image of guns is completely different here, as in they are illegal, but there is no way in a million years I would ever allow a gun in the house with my children.
Countries with more guns have more gun crime. At least here the teenagers only manage to stab each other.
If countries where the public has more guns have more crime, what do you call all of the riots going on in the UK right now? Also take a real look at the statistics not what you are being spoon fed. Haven't you heard of unground sales of illegal guns? Criminals will find a way to get guns whether they are illegal or not. Making something illegal doesn't make it impossible to get... look at the drug trade.
^This. Laws against guns just prevent the people who dont commit the crimes from getting them. Criminals will always find a way to get what they want, regardless of laws. If you think guns cause crime.......i dunno what to even say about that. Guns cause crime like flies cause trash /facepalm
Guns do occasionally kill or seriously injure small children accidentally when not properly secured. :-( I hear these tragedies on the news all too often. But to be fair, it's not the gun's fault, it's the fault of the person that did not lock it away properly in the first place. So all I have to say is that if there are children in the household or even a possibility of children visiting, please use proper precautions with your firearm to prevent something awful from happening.0 -
I have one and personally want another one (Santa if your listening... a pink .45) :happy:
That said, I wouldnt give one as a gift because Im weird like that. (unless of course it was my husband)0 -
I fully agree. If you buy a gun for your house, educate everyone appropriately on their use and to respect them.0
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I would not personally buy a gun as a gift for someone, but that's just my personal comfort level. I do not want guns in my house. I grew up in a home with guns, my Dad took me out on the farm and taught me to shoot handguns, rifles, etc. So it's not like I was not around them. I just simply do not want them in my home at this time.
But the question is not about me, it's about OP. OP I would take into consideration whether the people in the home are already familiar with safety, proper handling, etc. I would consider whether everyone would be comfortable having a firearm in the home and handling it if necessary. And I would consider the reason why it's been requested. I'd think on it and then I would decide.
Agree here. Like if the person on the list is former murderer whose really ticked at his or her spouse maybe you shouldn't buy one
You know - depends on who - are they people who already have guns and are safe around them etc... I'd probably just send cash - then they can buy their own gun. Everyone loves cash. 0 -
Sooo on my xmas lists I got this year, I got a request to buy a riffle gun for our household this year!!
You'll shoot your eye out.
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LOL This cracks me up0 -
i thought this thread was going to be about the gun show. or *a* gun show. any gun show. *flexes biceps*0
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As long as the plan is not to point it in my direction, no problem.
Give people what they want if your intention is to give a pleasing gift and the person is of age or his folks don't mind.0 -
People keep talking about having the guns locked up and separate from the ammunition. The problem with that is owners and parents think that's enough.
No matter how you store your weapons, you need to teach people (kids for the most part) what to do or not to do with them. My dad's teaching was, "leave it alone or I'll spank you" along with showing me what they do. After I saw that groundhog digging a hole by the power pole get very dead, I never even thought about playing with them.0 -
Since the English and Canadians aren't allowed the freedom to own a gun, then the OPs question shouldn't apply to them, since you have no choice in the matter.
Canadians can own guns!!! LOL I have a cabinet full of them!!!!
I personally think that a gun is a great gift provided everyone in the house hold is taught how to use it safely. I love guns.....if you are worried about children. You could purchase trigger locks to lock the trigger so you can't shoot it. Depending on the type of rifle, you could take the bolt out....etc.
Or better yet..you could purchase a cabinet to lock it up in, plus put a trigger lock on if you really want to be safe.....there are so many safety measures you could take to ensure nothing happens.
You will have to educate your children about guns as well. That is very important.
If you would like more information.....send me a PM...I'd be happy to give you suggestions. Don't let the whole crime talk sway you on your decision.....Crime is everywhere.......guns don't kill people....people kill people.....they also stab with knives, beat with bats, and strangle with bare hands......if crimes an issue....people should start getting their hands chopped off!!! LOL
Here's something to lighten up the mood!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk
Good luck!0 -
Since the English and Canadians aren't allowed the freedom to own a gun, then the OPs question shouldn't apply to them, since you have no choice in the matter.
Really? I am Canadian and there are guns in my uncles house. all of which are licensed and have been used. I personally do not have a gun, nor do I want one as I have no reason to have them but one of my good friends goes to a range 2 - 3 times a week, she owns her own gun. I do not see how we are not allowed the freedom to own a gun, we do not carry guns in our purses but we can own them.
To the OP, I believe as long as everyone is properly trained in how to handle them safetly guns are just fine.0 -
1) Guns are really fun to shoot. I love a day at the range.
2) Some guns have a trigger lock so guests (read: children) can't get into too much trouble, assuming the gun is not safely locked up.0 -
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^This. Laws against guns just prevent the people who dont commit the crimes from getting them. Criminals will always find a way to get what they want, regardless of laws. If you think guns cause crime.......i dunno what to even say about that. Guns cause crime like flies cause trash /facepalm
The only person who has said that guns cause more crime was someone arguing for them and misquoting.
I said guns cause more GUN CRIME, which is not up for debate, surely?0 -
People keep talking about having the guns locked up and separate from the ammunition. The problem with that is owners and parents think that's enough.
No matter how you store your weapons, you need to teach people (kids for the most part) what to do or not to do with them. My dad's teaching was, "leave it alone or I'll spank you" along with showing me what they do. After I saw that groundhog digging a hole by the power pole get very dead, I never even thought about playing with them.
This!
I grew up in an age of no gun safes, trigger locks or the like. My dad had a closet full of guns, I learned to shoot when I was 4 (we lived way out in the country). He did that so I would understand what a gun was and so I would be cautious. Hell we weren't even allowed to play with toy squirt guns.
Quite frankly, I was more afraid of what my dad would do if I was caught monkeying around with his guns.
Gun safety is more than just what you may have at home. Even if you don't own a gun, if you have children you should talk to them about gun safety and possible scenarios (such as "Show & Tell" at a friends house).0 -
People keep talking about having the guns locked up and separate from the ammunition. The problem with that is owners and parents think that's enough.
No matter how you store your weapons, you need to teach people (kids for the most part) what to do or not to do with them. My dad's teaching was, "leave it alone or I'll spank you" along with showing me what they do. After I saw that groundhog digging a hole by the power pole get very dead, I never even thought about playing with them.
This!
I grew up in an age of no gun safes, trigger locks or the like. My dad had a closet full of guns, I learned to shoot when I was 4 (we lived way out in the country). He did that so I would understand what a gun was and so I would be cautious. Hell we weren't even allowed to play with toy squirt guns.
Quite frankly, I was more afraid of what my dad would do if I was caught monkeying around with his guns.
Gun safety is more than just what you may have at home. Even if you don't own a gun, if you have children you should talk to them about gun safety and possible scenarios (such as "Show & Tell" at a friends house).
I consider guns and pools to be the same threat. Just because I don't have a pool, doesn't mean my child won't be at someone's house that does. So either I ban my child from going to their friends' houses or I teach my child how to swim.
Education will always override fear and ignorance.0 -
^This. Laws against guns just prevent the people who dont commit the crimes from getting them. Criminals will always find a way to get what they want, regardless of laws. If you think guns cause crime.......i dunno what to even say about that. Guns cause crime like flies cause trash /facepalm
The only person who has said that guns cause more crime was someone arguing for them and misquoting.
I said guns cause more GUN CRIME, which is not up for debate, surely?
Guns don't cause "gun crime". People cause ALL crimes - knife, gun, assault, theft, etc.0 -
People keep talking about having the guns locked up and separate from the ammunition. The problem with that is owners and parents think that's enough.
No matter how you store your weapons, you need to teach people (kids for the most part) what to do or not to do with them. My dad's teaching was, "leave it alone or I'll spank you" along with showing me what they do. After I saw that groundhog digging a hole by the power pole get very dead, I never even thought about playing with them.
This!
I grew up in an age of no gun safes, trigger locks or the like. My dad had a closet full of guns, I learned to shoot when I was 4 (we lived way out in the country). He did that so I would understand what a gun was and so I would be cautious. Hell we weren't even allowed to play with toy squirt guns.
Quite frankly, I was more afraid of what my dad would do if I was caught monkeying around with his guns.
Gun safety is more than just what you may have at home. Even if you don't own a gun, if you have children you should talk to them about gun safety and possible scenarios (such as "Show & Tell" at a friends house).
I consider guns and pools to be the same threat. Just because I don't have a pool, doesn't mean my child won't be at someone's house that doesn't. So either I ban my child from going to their friends' houses or I teach my child how to swim.
Education will always override fear and ignorance.
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I don't have a problem in fact I own a 9MM 0
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MY DISCLAIMER: I am not posting anything with regards pro gun or anti gun groups or individuals. I am not interested in debating the subject of gun control due to the fact that my opinion is exactly that, my opinion. I respect and defend the right for
each person to be able to express their opinion. This also include the pursuit of happiness and yada, yada.......with that being said
Since you asked a personal opinion type question, In my humble opinion, guns are great home protection as long as the following is met:
a. If you have never owned a gun...take a safety class. I'm not talking about uncle Bob who is a sharp shooter, a real qualified
and licensed trainer. And DO YOUR RESEARCH....
b. Have a safe and secure place for storage...I hate taking burglary reports and people tell us...." I had guns all over the house
and now they are gone...safe, no I dont have a safe".
c. If you have kids...dont make guns taboo. Let them shoot, then make them clean them. It is much safer if they have
knowledge about gun safety. (MAKE SURE THEY (KIDS) CANNOT ACCESS THEM....SAFE, TRIGGER LOCKS ECT)
d. You have to be prepared for any confrontation. You don't need your gun taken away from you and used against you. There
are several books out there about the psychology of deadly force encounters....ie On Killing or On Conbat by Lt Col Dave
Grossman. There are also several self defense training classes which train in alternative less leathal self defense tactics.
Also some local law enforcement agencies offer a civilian police academy which include a firearms portion.....note: some
offer. No....I dont know which ones....
e. You also need to educate yourself with regards to federal as well as your local jurisdiction laws with regards to the use of
deadly force.
There are several thing folks may not be aware of when it comes to the subject of the use of deadly force in self defense. Hopefully this information was not to confusing and was somewhat helpful...... Good luck and no matter what you decide, be safe.
But yes...if someone would like a gun, you should buy. As long as the above is being met.....0 -
In the UK many years ago we stopped capital punishment ie hanging/execution in the USA there are only some states that agree with lethal injection I am pretty sure the gas chamber is a thing of the past?
what I am trying to say is once you have killed somebody, you cannot take it back???
Is your gun for protection/the big I AM/ killing somebody?
I live in the UK and feel no need to have a gun in the home and I would certainly not want to gift a gun to someone!0 -
I have guns, but I raised my son teaching him gun safety, and we have never had a problem.0
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Sooo on my xmas lists I got this year, I got a request to buy a riffle gun for our household this year!! what are your thoughts about guns in the house?? I dont have problems with guns I just dont know if that would be a good gift to give someone!
Well, if they requested a gun, and you don't have strong feelings against one, I don't see the problem.
My thoughts on guns in the house is I don't want one in mine. I realize many children grow up with guns in the home, have been taught safety, rules, how to shoot them, etc. I also know a senior at our school who had a party at his house, alcholol was involved, and he brought a gun out. Alcohol impaired his judgment and he ended up in jail and his best friend ended up shot in the head. My kids know the rules in our home, but that doesn't mean they always follow them. I don't knock anyone else's rules, though.0 -
Luckily I live in a country that is safe enough and the people secure enough to not feel the fear and need to own deadly weapons in my home to protect myself. I feel very lucky. The only people that need guns are soldiers. Our police don't routinely carry them and I don't consider widespread gun ownership as being a freedom, I think it is scary and disturbing.
So in answer to the question, I think a gun is NOT a good present, I think a gun is not a good thing in anyway. I think guns are for shooting things, they can and are used to kill and injure people and animals. This is not something that makes a suitable Christmas gift.0
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