Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out

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  • peinek
    peinek Posts: 6
    thanks
  • Kikilicious84
    Kikilicious84 Posts: 312
    I have 2 back scabards for my pump action shotguns. If you've seen Woody Harrelsons character in Zombieland, you'll know what I mean.. You hardly know that they are there when you're out running.

    Nice.
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
    For the Canadians and Europeans who cannot fathom running with a gun...

    I live in the country. My neighbor is 1.5 miles away. I have seen alligator on the road, had dogs attacked by bobcats, and cattle dragged off by black bear. I have a 4 year old that sometimes runs with me. What would you suggest I carry? A knife? A taser? I don't want to give these things the opportunity to get that close.

    Don't judge.

    Exactly. It's not just people but animals that can be a danger also. My bosses son works in Alaska a few months out of the year and they are having to sleep with shotguns because the bears are getting TOO comfortable with them being there.

    Of course any thread that mentions guns or weapons they people who live in Europe automatically freak out and call you crazy. :grumble:
  • half_moon
    half_moon Posts: 807 Member
    Like I said, I SURE glad I live in Texas. It's not a "crazy" world we live in... It's the real world. And you've got to be prepared to defend yourself or your family. Bad things happen to everybody, and NOBODY is special. The people that use a gun illegally usually obtained the gun illegally.
  • trackercasey76
    trackercasey76 Posts: 781 Member
    Just read about major gun Crimes in France and Canada in the last two days...Glad they don't have any violent crimes there.
  • jaye121
    jaye121 Posts: 6
    Why conceal?

    Carry open and avoid the problems you describe, and the problem to begin with.

    Seriously.

    Many people are uneasy seeing someone openly carrying a firearm. I'm sure his run would be interrupted at least once by policemen following up on a complaint from someone concerned to see a man running while carrying a pistol. ;)
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
    That's the funny part, about the cultural differences.

    Carrying a gun is really no big deal. It's just a thing. Like a cell phone, or pocket book.
    Except you can't kill anyone - or yourself - with a cell phone or a pocket book (althoug I'm sure you could if you tried hard enough).

    And you can't kill someone with a gun unless you are TRYING. Any person who has been around guns and is educated on gun safety knows that. They don't have a mind of their own that seeks out human life.....
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    Not judging. Just it's illegal in the UK to carry a weapon. We may speak ( sort of) the same language but it's posts like this that make me realise how different our lives can be.

    It's just the idea that even "normal" people are literally running around with guns and knives quite happily, makes me wonder how the crazies are.

    I rarely even see an armed policeman here, unless for a SUPER high security risk. I live in Central London.

    It's just unfathomable.

    Above anything else, I see so many people who are terrible drivers despite the fact they drive almost daily and then think they're better than 90% of other drivers. I dread to think how these people would react to being allowed to carry weapons that they wouldn't use as regularly. How often would it be misused? misfired? badly maintained? Badly aimed?

    No wonder all the horror films have to upgrade to loonies with chainsaws when knives & guns are every day


    seriously? My friends and I were mugged in London. In broad daylight, in a public place.
    And all the "Londoners" in the place stood around and did nothing to help us.

    I'd trust my gun over citizens any day, And for the record, gun owners in the US are trained on how to use them before we can carry.
  • KS_4691
    KS_4691 Posts: 228 Member
    Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

    I am very glad I live in Europe!

    Have you never seen TAKEN?? haha.
  • half_moon
    half_moon Posts: 807 Member
    Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

    I am very glad I live in Europe!

    Have you never seen TAKEN?? haha.


    PAHAHA.

    Self-righteous something-or-others....
  • CinRyan
    CinRyan Posts: 16
    AMEN!
    I prefer to be the sheepdog, thank you very much.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

    I am very glad I live in Europe!

    Have you never seen TAKEN?? haha.


    PAHAHA.

    Self-righteous something-or-others....

    I feel like they have this image of concealed carry holders having a shoot-out OK-Corral style over parking spaces and the last box of nutella at the grocery store...
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    I'm not anti-gun, but I think the stats speak for themselves. You're more likely to be injured in a gun accident than you are to successfully defend yourself with a gun.
  • HisShadow
    HisShadow Posts: 59 Member

    No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
    You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:

    A. Mace
    B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
    C. Firearm
    D. Nothing

    Which do you pick?

    At least 90% of people will never be in that situation.

    It's not the odds. It's the stakes.

    QFT. I'm always amused by people who want to quote statistics. If I'm ever attacked I'll just console myself on my way to meet my maker that I was just a statistical outlier. Oh wait, no I won't. I choose to protect myself.
  • now_or_never12
    now_or_never12 Posts: 849 Member
    I live in Canada. That stuff doesn't happen here. I'd be more worried about being run down by someone talking on their cell phone.

    I'm from the same area as you and you would be surprised as what crimes actually do happen here. Waterloo Region has a habit of not telling the citizens about the crimes that do happen. You'd be surprised at how many guns are in Cambridge and how many gun crimes happen in the Region along with all other crimes. Knives and guns are in Waterloo Region. Cambridge isn't the small, quiet town it used to be.

    We can't carry guns here in Canada however if I could, I would. Better safe than sorry. With what I do for work I don't run alone in my area. I only go if my husband is with me because I have been threatened on the street, bus, in the store, etc. I carry a can of dog spray with me (pepper spray is illegal to carry here unless you are a Police Officer) along with a small pocket knife.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    I'm not anti-gun, but I think the stats speak for themselves. You're more likely to be injured in a gun accident than you are to successfully defend yourself with a gun.

    The injury rate approaches 0 if one is not an idiot and obeys a few very simple rules.
  • jaye121
    jaye121 Posts: 6
    I have something like this:
    http://www.chuckhawks.com/galco_escort_elite.htm

    Carrying a gun is awkward because it is heavy and I have to strap the pack on very tightly. A smaller LCP would be a good choice. I just haven't had the extra $$ to buy another gun yet.

    I carry when I'm out running and walking because I live in a VERY rural area and run on roads where the houses can be miles apart. One passing car with one bad person inside and I could be gone and never found again. I just can't count on any bystanders/witnesses being around to help.

    Bad people are out there, believe me. Here in Maine, we are also experiencing an explosion in the use of a synthetic drug called "bath salts". People overdosing on bath salts become paranoid and violent and immune to pain. Pepper spray does not subdue them and they are extremely difficult to subdue. That means innocent people in Maine run a good chance of running into someone who is incoherent, thinks someone is trying to murder them, is capable of feats of extreme strength and cannot be subdued by pepper spray. It may never happen to me, but if it does, I don't want to be a victim.
  • jyuill86
    jyuill86 Posts: 10
    Icyrain- It would not be legal to carry a screwdriver without a permit too. I know it sounds stupid but if you carry it "As a weapon" then it is considered a weapon and if you got caught carrying it, it might as well be a knife or brass knuckles.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    Icyrain- It would not be legal to carry a screwdriver without a permit too. I know it sounds stupid but if you carry it "As a weapon" then it is considered a weapon and if you got caught carrying it, it might as well be a knife or brass knuckles.

    Every state has different laws and many localities have laws that are more specific than state laws. The best thing to do is know the laws for your specific location.
  • lauren3382
    lauren3382 Posts: 372 Member
    "Guns don't kill people; people kill people."
  • KS_4691
    KS_4691 Posts: 228 Member
    Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

    I am very glad I live in Europe!

    Have you never seen TAKEN?? haha.


    PAHAHA.

    Self-righteous something-or-others....

    I feel like they have this image of concealed carry holders having a shoot-out OK-Corral style over parking spaces and the last box of nutella at the grocery store...


    Actually, Europe probably is a lot safer now that Liam Neeson killed half the continent's criminals.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I feel like they have this image of concealed carry holders having a shoot-out OK-Corral style over parking spaces and the last box of nutella at the grocery store...
    Never a parking space but the last box of nutella........ that might be justifiable.
  • now_or_never12
    now_or_never12 Posts: 849 Member
    Gotta tell ya... I am glad I live in Canada.......no guns ....phew!!!!!

    No guns in Canada????? Where in the country do you live?

    Not sure if you are serious or it's sarcasim.

    I live in a small town and there have been multiple gun related incidents here lately. You'd be surprised at how many people here in Canada have guns and how often they are used.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I understand the OP has most likely tuned out by now but I would suggest he set up a little test for himself before he invests in a carry weapon for running. I think it might help to get a feeling of your competence with the hand gun at the end of the run.t would Be a shame to go for a run and end up being robed after you shot yourself in the foot. I know I can't work a TV remote right after a hard run I cant imagine try to use a hand gun.

    I often do drills where I get my heart rate up and get sweaty before I draw and shoot at targets while moving to cover. Standing on a square range in one spot and shooting slowly at stationary targets does very little to prepare one for a violent encounter.
  • PetulantOne
    PetulantOne Posts: 2,131 Member
    My mother, just got her conceal/carry and purchased her first gun. (Along with her crank radio....but thats another topic lol)

    She is also an experienced runner - still running marathons, 10ks, etc. I plan to get here these for Christmas...as well as a pair for myself. I live in a downtown area, right next to the Dorathy Day center, which is a food shelter/homeless shelter. Id rather be safe, than sorry. (Not saying all homeless people are attackers, rapist, etc) I also love to run down by the river, which the paths twist and turn away from the city a bit and are secluded.

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    http://www.undertechundercover.com/

    <3 this!!
  • MrDude_1
    MrDude_1 Posts: 2,510 Member
    I run with a portal gun.

    Portal.png

    I want a real portal gun.

    infinite energy.. just drop a magnet between two vertical portals and wrap a coil around where it falls.

    then put a portal in a electric car, and the other portal at home next to the 220v wall outlet.... long range electric car.

    dont like the magnetic-gravity generator? launch portal into space.. push solar array through it.

    etc..
  • swordsmith
    swordsmith Posts: 599 Member
    This is why you carry a gun. For all of those who say I live in a quiet, safe area you probably due. And your chance of being a crime victim is extremely low (just as it is for most people). I personally have been mugged twice in 49 years and both times simply drawing my weapon caused the assailant to decide it would be better to be somewhere else.

    Just found out my baby sister was mugged yesterday while out jogging in St Augustine, FL. ****ers took her cell phone and wedding/engagement rings but thankfully didnt touch her - it was broad daylight in a nice neighborhood. She said it happened very fast- car pulled up in front of her, the two urban yutes got out the passenger doors, displayed a knife, said "give me the phone and rings *****", back in car and gone. She realizes that she is uber lucky not to have been snatched.

    The only happy ending was they did catch the *kitten* fairly quickly- someone saw it go down from their house, called the cops and a patrol car was nearby. The neighbors that saw it go down came out and took my sister into their home as she went hysterical. There were three gang members between the ages of 15 and 17 - she IDed the two, recovered her rings and cell phone and the entire time she was being cursed out by these yutes who claimed alternately that they found everything on a bench or that they bought the items from her. In the car she said the cops pulled out some other loot from others they had mugged in the general area over the previous hour (which is why a patrol car was nearby apparently- they were trying to find them)

    She normally carries but decided "she didnt need a pistol" on her while simply running around her white picket fence neighborhood at 9 AM. That attitude has now changed and she is going to run with a fanny pack or belly band that has quick access to the gun. Being Florida she runs typically in underamor compression gear (shorts and tank top). Her normal carry piece is a Combat Commander but she is going out shopping for a smaller, lighter piece tonight.

    For running I told her to look at something in stainless and/or polymer with a stainless slide due to sweat.
  • _LilPowerHouse
    _LilPowerHouse Posts: 365 Member
    Yeah, there are no guns In Canada!! *rolls eyes** have a quick read at this..
    http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/57594324?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

    http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/08/13/20097856.html
  • laprovocateur
    laprovocateur Posts: 128 Member
    baby beretta .25 jetfire. fits nicely just about anywhere i want to carry it.

    it's a close range weapon, but i could just about hide it in my hands because it's so small, and trust me... it's lethal.
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    I'm not anti-gun, but I think the stats speak for themselves. You're more likely to be injured in a gun accident than you are to successfully defend yourself with a gun.

    The injury rate approaches 0 if one is not an idiot and obeys a few very simple rules.

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there. It's unsettling to think that anyone around me could be carrying.

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