Embarrassed to go jogging because of pervs.

this thread has taken a serious turn for the worse. for goodness sake even the OP wasn't concerned about being physically assaulted. by her own words she was made to feel uncomfortable by comments that passerby would make as she was running. I'm firmly in the "suck it up, buttercup" camp, but i can understand how people feel differently.

so someone PUHLEEEZE tell me how a thread that was basically "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me" has turned into fear mongering rape thread? yes, rape is a serious and pervasive threat, but this wasn't a rape thread. "nice *kitten*!" yelled from a car window is neither rape nor a sign of impending assault.

I agree the attention I get is Obscene

this thread has taken a serious turn for the worse. for goodness sake even the OP wasn't concerned about being physically assaulted. by her own words she was made to feel uncomfortable by comments that passerby would make as she was running. I'm firmly in the "suck it up, buttercup" camp, but i can understand how people feel differently.

so someone PUHLEEEZE tell me how a thread that was basically "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me" has turned into fear mongering rape thread? yes, rape is a serious and pervasive threat, but this wasn't a rape thread. "nice *kitten*!" yelled from a car window is neither rape nor a sign of impending assault.

Agreed. I have been exercising outside for years. Pretty much every time, I get honks or whistles, usually several. When I was a teenager, my friends and I got honks, whistles, you name it. We were even stupid enough to accept rides from random complete strangers. I have never been raped.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen and I'm very sad as an adult to have realized especially how often children are molested. It seems like a majority of women have been victims of sexual assault. But I don't think you're at a high risk of it by walking or jogging along a busy public street just because there are some catcalls and honks.

Try to ignore them. You are out for you and your physical/mental well-being. Enjoy getting out into the fresh air whether its running the roads or on your bike and don't let ****heads ruin your training. Remember you are better than them.

It's British slang, dude.

g'day to you too, friend!

It's "MATE". Get it right.

Whoa there! No one is asking to mate. Now you're the one being creepy. Slow down and get to know the guy first.


I run at 5:30 am and it's pretty rare for me to see much of anyone.

srsly, i hardly know ye!

We can fix that...

this thread has taken a serious turn for the worse. for goodness sake even the OP wasn't concerned about being physically assaulted. by her own words she was made to feel uncomfortable by comments that passerby would make as she was running. I'm firmly in the "suck it up, buttercup" camp, but i can understand how people feel differently.

so someone PUHLEEEZE tell me how a thread that was basically "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me" has turned into fear mongering rape thread? yes, rape is a serious and pervasive threat, but this wasn't a rape thread. "nice *kitten*!" yelled from a car window is neither rape nor a sign of impending assault.

But here's the thing: the woman you are yelling "nice *kitten*!" at does not KNOW you. She doesn't KNOW your intention. She doesn't KNOW your history. The assault statistics reported above are not inflated. They are real. Most women (most people, actually, if they bothered to ask) know several other women who have been raped or assaulted or at least had an attempt made, so we have to be on our guard.

Whether or not your intention is just to make a catcall or to escalate that into something more, the person you are directing this at has no way of knowing. On a more basic level, it all still stems from the same cultural attitude where men feel they have a RIGHT to sexualize a complete stranger. Would you say "nice *kitten*!" to your college professor, or to your child's teacher, or to your doctor? No. Because it's disrespectful. I'm out here running because I'm running. Not because I have any interest in being your eye candy. If you want to be complimentary and supportive, and you feel you need to inflict yourself on to a complete stranger, support their EFFORT ("keep it up!" "you're doing great!") instead of diminishing everything about that person to their sexual attractiveness.

you're right. all women should assume all men are going to rape them all the time. and every conversation about anything should turn to a conversation about rape, because rape is all that happens in the world, ever. it's not a question of have you been raped, it's have you been raped YET. so yes, you're jogging down a public street in broad daylight and there are dozens of witnesses, but you damn well be protecting yourself because if someone yells "Nice rack!" they are probably going to rape you right there in the middle of Main Street at 4pm.

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this thread has taken a serious turn for the worse. for goodness sake even the OP wasn't concerned about being physically assaulted. by her own words she was made to feel uncomfortable by comments that passerby would make as she was running. I'm firmly in the "suck it up, buttercup" camp, but i can understand how people feel differently.

so someone PUHLEEEZE tell me how a thread that was basically "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me" has turned into fear mongering rape thread? yes, rape is a serious and pervasive threat, but this wasn't a rape thread. "nice *kitten*!" yelled from a car window is neither rape nor a sign of impending assault.

But here's the thing: the woman you are yelling "nice *kitten*!" at does not KNOW you. She doesn't KNOW your intention. She doesn't KNOW your history. The assault statistics reported above are not inflated. They are real. Most women (most people, actually, if they bothered to ask) know several other women who have been raped or assaulted or at least had an attempt made, so we have to be on our guard.

Whether or not your intention is just to make a catcall or to escalate that into something more, the person you are directing this at has no way of knowing. On a more basic level, it all still stems from the same cultural attitude where men feel they have a RIGHT to sexualize a complete stranger. Would you say "nice *kitten*!" to your college professor, or to your child's teacher, or to your doctor? No. Because it's disrespectful. I'm out here running because I'm running. Not because I have any interest in being your eye candy. If you want to be complimentary and supportive, and you feel you need to inflict yourself on to a complete stranger, support their EFFORT ("keep it up!" "you're doing great!") instead of diminishing everything about that person to their sexual attractiveness.

you're right. all women should assume all men are going to rape them all the time. and every conversation about anything should turn to a conversation about rape, because rape is all that happens in the world, ever. it's not a question of have you been raped, it's have you been raped YET. so yes, you're jogging down a public street in broad daylight and there are dozens of witnesses, but you damn well be protecting yourself because if someone yells "Nice rack!" they are probably going to rape you right there in the middle of Main Street at 4pm.

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Is that what she said??? Damn, apparently I can't read!

No, I'm not saying that people on here not agreeing with me is harassment.... I'm saying that old guys saying stuff from their vans is harassment.

So do you NOT consider it pervy if the guys are young?

Exactly how old are you anyway?

Wow what did I come back to?

doesn't anyone have the power to kill this thread? pls put it out of its misery. i think op got the answers she was looking for (and then some).

This may sound creepy, but I'm pretty sure no one will say anything. I see people running in the cemetary.

Okay so I was out and about yesterday and this guy chased me down to hand me a flyer to sign up for a bikini contest next Friday night.

That was pretty cool.

Carry on.

how do we get tickets to that event????

The simple fact that they now make running pants with built in gun holsters in the back waist band makes me refuse to go out for a run. Forget the pervs, I'm too scared of what else is out there....

Okay so I was out and about yesterday and this guy chased me down to hand me a flyer to sign up for a bikini contest next Friday night.

That was pretty cool.

Carry on.

Woo Hoo!! :drinker:

Here's some helpful information for those who are totally ignorant on the subject:

1 in 5 women have been raped according to the CDC. Of those, 12% were raped before age 11. 1in 4 women have been the victim of violence from a partner.

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_factsheet-a.pdf

Here is a helpful graphic and information about the graphic. One important thing to note about this is that false rape reports are low (about 2%) and VERY VERY VERY RARELY does a false report of rape ever name the perp. Most false rapes reported are reports of stranger rapes.

http://theenlivenproject.com/the-truth-about-false-accusation/

And these are the ones that are REPORTED. Many women don't report being raped.
And children can't.

Do you have statistics on the number of unreported rapes? How were they derived?

You have access to google. Look it up. Generally tho, the term "reported" means reported to the police. The CDC study may actually include rapes not reported to the police, but reported in other ways (sociological studies, perhaps.... Or perhaps from rape crisis centers or from counselors).

I ask because the very nature of "unreported rapes" makes them all but impossible to compile statistically. I ask because I have had professors and "workplace harassment workshop leaders" throw numbers at the classes/workshop I was in that indicated that 7 out of every 5 women were rape victims. That's not a typo: they presented numbers indicating that more than 100% of women had been raped, *not* counting women who were attacked more than once. This was not an isolated incident of one person who didn't understand how to read statistics, because it was multiple people in multiple settings.

You do understand why I am somewhat skeptical of these numbers?

Yes of course I understand. It isn't more than 100%. I know at least one woman who wasn't raped, molested, or beaten. It does happen. And it doesn't help anyone to throw out numbers that are completely off- especially when something is already a very verifiable epidemic.

One thing I think is good to note- the average rapist racks up six victims. Just because a disturbingly large number of women have been sexually assaulted does not mean a disturbingly large number of men are rapists. I don't think anyone has been trying to say that (despit Davpaul's ignorant post here). What *is* common, and totally logical, is for women who have experienced sexual violence or sexually motivated violence to be a bit fearful. I don't think it's "rape mongering" (this is in response to dav not you) to talk about something that is a serious problem.

I agree this is a bit off topic from OP .... But not really if she is scared of sexual harassment. Harassment that is sexually motivated is part of a spectrum of sexually motivated antisocial behavior which includes rape and murder. No, it's not rape and of course people who engage in harassment may have a moral compass that would prevent them from physically harming someone. I think the point one poster here may be trying to make is that some who engage in sexual harassment may be ignorant of how it can e harmful even if they never touch the woman- perhaps their behavior isn't antisocial but just simply ignorance.