MFP has changed
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Too newb to know what QFT means? :huh:
QFT = Quoted for Truth. Valid question!
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I think your missing the point.I have been on MFP for some time now and rarely post and know by posting this I am opening myself up for attacks. When I started on here other posters were encouraging and tried to motivate people now a lot just attack. I just finished reading the one "law school made me fat" and the op got attacked. I mean obviously the law school didn't make him eat bad, it did however cause a significant increase in stress which releases corticosteriods which increase belly fat and appetite. Studying did take away a lot of free time so maybe there wasn't much exercise. We also have no idea what else is happening in the posters life. In my opinion the op was looking for support and motivation not an attack on how there is no personal accountability. Just by coming to MFP the op is starting to take accountability. Wouldn't it be shameful if the op never came back because of the lack of kindness.
I am here to live better to maintain a healthy lifestyle not be shamed because in my past I gained weight because I lacked time to exercise while going through grad school, working full time, and raising a family not to mention the seasonal depression. I'm sure all of us started on here to live a healthier life and what is healthier for one may not meet the same definition for someone else.
It would be nice if the MFP community could be more welcoming and less bashing.
He Choose to eat junk. he could have eaten zucchini, carrots , cucumbers , a number of healthy items, but he opted for the junk food and blamed it on Law school0 -
Back when I was young, MFP sent people to your house to do your grocery shopping, cut up your food, and give you massages. Boy, those were the good old days.
Every time and every place has people complaining about how things used to be better.
Well, honestly, like much of life, it's mostly what you make it.
You can complain, whine, and flounce. Or you can get busy and make a difference in your life and others.0 -
I think your missing the point.
He Choose to eat junk. he could have eaten zucchini, carrots , cucumbers , a number of healthy items, but he opted for the junk food and blamed it on Law school
No, no one is missing the point. But the point I've made several times already is that not everyone is able to take control for themselves. They rely on outsiders to help and to support them. He wasn't being stupid or uncooperative. He just needed support and education. No one would be on this site if everyone were perfect and had always had control over their diets and their weight.
You can complain, whine, and flounce. Or you can get busy and make a difference in your life and others.
You're assuming that anyone who complains, whines, and flounces does not make a difference in his/her own life.0 -
You can complain, whine, and flounce. Or you can get busy and make a difference in your life and others.
You're assuming that anyone who complains, whines, and flounces does not make a difference in his/her own life.
no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.0 -
no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.
No one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside the forum. You should not be the judge of what is making a difference here in his or her life. And, since you seem to enjoy derailing threads and being derisive (Chick-fil-A thread) then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's actions.0 -
No, no one is missing the point. But the point I've made several times already is that not everyone is able to take control for themselves. They rely on outsiders to help and to support them. He wasn't being stupid or uncooperative. He just needed support and education. No one would be on this site if everyone were perfect and had always had control over their diets and their weight.
The thing is that they are able to. If they choose to is a completely different issue.0 -
I've noticed this too. I've been on here for 2 or 3 years on and off, and this site went from "Let's motivate each other!" to "date, f-ck, or pass" crap. No one can post without being attacked or called names. I'm about done with this site, since I came for support. Sucks, but this is what happens when sites get popular and get tons of people.
Every time I see this sentiment it makes me scratch my head because I think MFP is exactly the same as when I joined in February 2011.
I'm also scratching my head because I've been using the site seriously for about a month and haven't seen any particularly mean trend at all. Usually people go out of their way to be nice and helpful. Certain trigger subjects (sugar, carbs, supplements, extreme calorie cutting) do spur a more stringent response, but none that I would classify as "mean." The closest I've seen is when an OP spent multiple pages (the thread went into part 3) basically either in extreme denial or trolling, and then did the same on another site. Quite a few people called her out for it, and some got not-so-nice, but there were literally hundreds of good, helpful posts before things devolved to that level.0 -
No, no one is missing the point. But the point I've made several times already is that not everyone is able to take control for themselves. They rely on outsiders to help and to support them. He wasn't being stupid or uncooperative. He just needed support and education. No one would be on this site if everyone were perfect and had always had control over their diets and their weight.
The thing is that they are able to. If they choose to is a completely different issue.
Yes. Just like every depressed person should just be able to suck it up and get over what is bothering them.
Get real.
Sometimes people can't just decide to do better on their own. Would it kill people to try to offer them some assistance?0 -
no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.
No one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside the forum. You should not be the judge of what is making a difference here in his or her life. And, since you seem to enjoy derailing threads and being derisive (Chick-fil-A thread) then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's actions.
i'm sorry, which action have i judged?
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i'm enjoying the judging you're doing. is your mention of chick fil a thread supposed to make me feel.........anything?
and since no one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside of the forum......perhaps you should drink some of your own kool aid and stop judging people by what you see of them in the forums?
i certainly hope you didn't take any of that as derision.0 -
I want to suggest that if people want to call people out, do it on the spot and then leave it be, don't drag their names into discussions they have nothing to do with later. One of the people discussed in this thread no longer has the ability to defend himself.0
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Deleted for good reason. My apologies, FlaxMilk.0
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no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.
No one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside the forum. You should not be the judge of what is making a difference here in his or her life. And, since you seem to enjoy derailing threads and being derisive (Chick-fil-A thread) then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's actions.
i'm sorry, which action have i judged?
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i'm enjoying the judging you're doing. is your mention of chick fil a thread supposed to make me feel.........anything?
and since no one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside of the forum......perhaps you should drink some of your own kool aid and stop judging people by what you see of them in the forums?
i certainly hope you didn't take any of that as derision.
Your personal agendas and desire to troll make no nevermind to me.0 -
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no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.
No one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside the forum. You should not be the judge of what is making a difference here in his or her life. And, since you seem to enjoy derailing threads and being derisive (Chick-fil-A thread) then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's actions.
i'm sorry, which action have i judged?
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i'm enjoying the judging you're doing. is your mention of chick fil a thread supposed to make me feel.........anything?
and since no one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside of the forum......perhaps you should drink some of your own kool aid and stop judging people by what you see of them in the forums?
i certainly hope you didn't take any of that as derision.
Your personal agendas and desire to troll make no nevermind to me.
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho0 -
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
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Back when I was young, MFP sent people to your house to do your grocery shopping, cut up your food, and give you massages. Boy, those were the good old days.
Every time and every place has people complaining about how things used to be better.
Well, honestly, like much of life, it's mostly what you make it.
You can complain, whine, and flounce. Or you can get busy and make a difference in your life and others.
Dear Sad Grandpa,
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It just bad manners.
If you can't be nice or helpful, don't write anything.
I agree. When people want encouragement or advice they don't want to be bashed or ridiculed. This would be more effective overall if it was a safe place where people can reach out, but there are a lot of people in the world who enjoy being hurtful and call it being honest.
OP, I'm with you on this.0 -
no one cares about thier life. if all a person is doing is complaining, whining and flouncing on the site then they're not making a difference ON THE SITE. unless the topic is "Our Own Lives Have Changed" and i missed it.
either be the force for good that you want everyone else to be or be quiet about it.
No one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside the forum. You should not be the judge of what is making a difference here in his or her life. And, since you seem to enjoy derailing threads and being derisive (Chick-fil-A thread) then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's actions.
i'm sorry, which action have i judged?
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i'm enjoying the judging you're doing. is your mention of chick fil a thread supposed to make me feel.........anything?
and since no one knows what changes a person is making in his or her life outside of the forum......perhaps you should drink some of your own kool aid and stop judging people by what you see of them in the forums?
i certainly hope you didn't take any of that as derision.
Your personal agendas and desire to troll make no nevermind to me.
Can someone make me an egg? I'm hungry and I heard this place was all helpful and whatnot.0 -
AMEN!!!0
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My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
Rather than being the change you wish to see in others...
...you've become the very thing that you were complaining about in others.
I suspect you won't see it that way, because in your mind, your behavior is justified...
...however, I trust that others see at least what appears to me to be rather blatant hypocrisy.
Fascinating, really.0 -
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
Nice try. But if you look above you'll see where you called me out personally and directly. Three times, in fact. I didn't come in here and personally attack you but it's open season on me.....and if I point that out, I'm playing the victim card. Fair enough. I'm done posting here. You don't have to call me any more names. You win0 -
Back when I was young, MFP sent people to your house to do your grocery shopping, cut up your food, and give you massages. Boy, those were the good old days.
Every time and every place has people complaining about how things used to be better.
Well, honestly, like much of life, it's mostly what you make it.
You can complain, whine, and flounce. Or you can get busy and make a difference in your life and others.
And this is exactly why you are on my FL.
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My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
If it's not about him why are you spending so spending so much time addressing him and insisting things aren't about him or his supposed desire to troll.0 -
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
If it's not about him why are you spending so spending so much time addressing him and insisting things aren't about him or his supposed desire to troll.
And people say reverse trolling doesn't exist0 -
Whelp, I enjoyed my dinner, what's going on here?0
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My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
If it's not about him why are you spending so spending so much time addressing him and insisting things aren't about him or his supposed desire to troll.
And people say reverse trolling doesn't exist
I lolled.
Also amberglover has a nice
pair of jeans.0 -
You are not the only one who sees it. That brand of hypocrisy is rampant in these threads.
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
Rather than being the change you wish to see in others...
...you've become the very thing that you were complaining about in others.
I suspect you won't see it that way, because in your mind, your behavior is justified...
...however, I trust that others see at least what appears to me to be rather blatant hypocrisy.
Fascinating, really.0 -
I have become more of a lurker on the main MFP forums in the last year or so because of the climate here. I have found the greatest motivation and support on this site to come from friends or groups. I have never understood the hostility and meanness, especially on something that is as difficult as weight loss. If it was so easy, none of us would even be on MFP. If life never got in the way, ex. law school, then weight loss and fitness would not be the billion dollar industry it is. It is hard to lose weight. It is hard to stay committed. It is hard to workout everyday when you have other obligations. It is hard to change unhealthy habits you have had your entire life. This is why support and motivation is important, because your post could be the difference between someone making a change in their life for the better or continuing on a bad path.
Of course it would be great if everyone had a thick skin and if tough love worked like a a magic pill, but that is not the reality. These topics are common and they tend to bring out many of the posters who have made a habit of making others uncomfortable with their tough love.. But i say to those members, have you ever thought that maybe that person isn't ready for your help or missed the message based on your delivery. Attacking them, insulting them or making fun of them doesn't help anyone. So if help is what you truly want to offer then recognize that some posters will be sensitive, insecure, uniformed or just not interested and tough love or brutal honesty may not be the best course of action for everyone.0 -
My only wish is that I had any idea what you are talking about.
Keep on judging tho
Sorry. As much as you'd like to make it so, this thread isn't about you. Feel free to keep playing the victim, though.
If it's not about him why are you spending so spending so much time addressing him and insisting things aren't about him or his supposed desire to troll.
And people say reverse trolling doesn't exist
He went into the CFA thread with an agenda and derailed it the third post in. After that, the thread became all about his topic and not about the opening post. He was spoiling for a fight when he came here and, apparently, succeeded in becoming the victim. Oh well. Funny you'll let him get away with it and not people like the one who started the law school thread.0
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