The Cleanse
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kimmiebrito wrote: »Fat sick & nearly dead
Food inc
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The gerson miracle
You guys need to stop being ignorant, food fuels our body.
You put *kitten* into it you get *kitten* in return
You overload your micronutrients -- it'll work wonders.
That's why you hear of so many people ridding of their diabetes by changing the way they eat.
And it's not a coincidence that some people who live under the same household, though not related, develop diabetes.
Your diet is crucial to how your body functions.
Thank you for the list of movies targeting the gullible to push an agenda ... not documentaries based upon fact or science.
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kimmiebrito wrote: »AND I personally know two people who cured their diabetes using herbalife & the nutribullet. They are both over 40 and never looked better. I know even more people without any diseases who have lost weight using these plans as well.
Impossible. You do not cure diabetes. You can manage it and keep you blood sugar normal through weight loss and/or moderating carbs, but the underlying problem of you body not being able to regulate the blood glucose optimally is still there. Once a diabetic, always a diabetic. The only difference is how it gets managed.
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kimmiebrito wrote: »AND I personally know two people who cured their diabetes using herbalife & the nutribullet. They are both over 40 and never looked better. I know even more people without any diseases who have lost weight using these plans as well.
Impossible. You do not cure diabetes. You can manage it and keep you blood sugar normal through weight loss and/or moderating carbs, but the underlying problem of you body not being able to regulate the blood glucose optimally is still there. Once a diabetic, always a diabetic. The only difference is how it gets managed.
but but but....the guy in the documentary did...It MUST be true because documentary!!!0 -
kimmiebrito wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »The world cleanse is the problem. It fools people into thinking something special is happening when it's not. People can juice if they like but they are no better off than someone who eats the fruit whole. Also it's not something everyone can sustain for long periods
Actually, it's just a little better than eating it whole because you can absorb more of the nutrients than when it's in its solid state & also, when you juice the foods you can eat more in a single sitting. So it'd be easier to eat 1 Apple 3 cups of kale 1 banana & 2 cups of water in one drink than just to eat all of those foods whole at once.. Just has to do with convenience on that part.
Convenience isn't the point, your original post was about cleanses. Now you are backpedaling and trying to make it sound as if all you were talking about was drinking juice. And it's not 'easier' to eat those things in one glass of juice, you lose a large portion of each, as the solid bulk of the fruit is discarded when the juice is brought out.0 -
Is "The Cleanse" a sequel to "The Purge"?
That movie was messed up.0 -
Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
OP thinks there is a generational gap contributing to the misunderstanding.
OP says she is a Paleontologist
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...0 -
Also, it may be that the old posters here just have a different definition of cleanse than the younger, hipper OP.WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
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kimmiebrito wrote: »kimmiebrito wrote: »AND I personally know two people who cured their diabetes using herbalife & the nutribullet. They are both over 40 and never looked better. I know even more people without any diseases who have lost weight using these plans as well.
Point 1: Type 2 diabetes can be caused by obesity. Lose the weight and it can correct itself. Has nothing to do with Herbalife or Nutribullet. Those are just tools to help people lose weight.
Point 2: Unless you have scientific proof of these people being cured of diseases from doing cleanses, I'm going to have to say no. And pretty much everyone else here will as well.
Point 3: Your diet and how you eat is crucial to your health. No one is disagreeing with that! But by your logic, using a cleanse of putting random ingrediants into your body that have little to no nutrtional value and nothing else for however long means what? Anybody? Anybody? Buller? Yeah, you're putting *kitten* into you body, so you'll be getting *kitten* out of it. Literally.
1) "Tools to help people lose weight" is exactly what I meant. If you saw the original post, I was directing it at someone who said juicing has NO benefits whatsoever.
2)The documentaries I provided have been backed up by A LOT of scientific proof. Watch them.
3) Random ingredients with no nutritional value? Many fruits and vegetables are VERY high in micronutrients, IMO.
1. Diabetes cannot be cured. In diabetes II, the symptoms can be reversed but if they don't sustain their healthy weight/fitness for the rest of their life, it will come back. So NO, the nutribullet and herbalife did not cure their disease, it enabled them to lose weight to help their blood glucose return to normal. If you want more information on Diabetes, check out this link
2. Those documentaries cherry pick science all the time. The bigger question is, have you validated the sources of information or did you take it at hand. Because the fitness industry (you know, the actual scientist) have done reviews on pretty much all of the documentaries and talk about how bad they are. For example, Sugar - the bitter truth
3. We all understand the benefits of having a diet high in macro and micronutrients. But here is the funny thing, once your body gets it's daily requirements, it doesnt' get benefits from additional micros. In fact, you just pee it out. If you actually stay around for awhile, you will notice how we promote a diet with a variety of foods to maximize nutrient intake.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Also, it may be that the old posters here just have a different definition of cleanse than the younger, hipper OP.WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
Oh yeah thanks! Went back and added it to mine. Also that she's a paleontologist.
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WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
OP thinks there is a generational gap contributing to the misunderstanding.
OP says she is a Paleontologist
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
You forgot about the part where we are all "haters".
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WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
OP thinks there is a generational gap contributing to the misunderstanding.
OP says she is a Paleontologist
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
You forgot about the part where we are all "haters".
Insert Taylor Swift gif...
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Also, it may be that the old posters here just have a different definition of cleanse than the younger, hipper OP.WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
I grew up in the small towns of KY...believe me...there is not any "hipper" in any of them. To be nice...because my momma taught me to be...I will just not say any more about those wide spots in the road.
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Cleanses can help you loose weight,
gain weight, stop caffeine addictions, fight intestinal bacterial overgrowth, identify allergies (add foods back in one at a time). Depends on the cleanse. But I didnt know people spent actual money on "buying a detox." Never heard of that.
Could you please cite the sources where you got this information?
Preferably somewhere that has creditable scientific background.0 -
Just catch the norovirus. Cleaned me right out to the tune of 5lbs in 4 hours a couple of nights ago. I'm assuming my insides were clean as a whistle for the 24 hours I didn't eat. Tip top cleanse.0
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VintageFeline wrote: »Just catch the norovirus. Cleaned me right out to the tune of 5lbs in 4 hours a couple of nights ago. I'm assuming my insides were clean as a whistle for the 24 hours I didn't eat. Tip top cleanse.
I've had this cleanse I 100% vouch for it go out there and lick some doorknobs kids
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And here I thought we were joking about detoxing our little canine and feline buddies.
But noooooooo.
Life Gold - Cat Detox
Detoxify your cat from toxins, and harsh chemicals
Support for the immune system
Supports vital systems of detoxification
Helps to reduce oxidative stress
Scavenges free radicals
Supports antioxidant function
I weep for humanity.
Though I could get a laugh out of thinking about whether anyone could actually survive trying to get the Cat Detox INTO the cat.
The only cleanses cats usually need are the deworming kind.0 -
kimmiebrito wrote: »Fat sick & nearly dead
Food inc
Supersize me
Forks over knives
The gerson miracle
You guys need to stop being ignorant, food fuels our body.
You put *kitten* into it you get *kitten* in return
You overload your micronutrients -- it'll work wonders.
That's why you hear of so many people ridding of their diabetes by changing the way they eat.
And it's not a coincidence that some people who live under the same household, though not related, develop diabetes.
Your diet is crucial to how your body functions.
So no documentaries then, mainly just infomercials and propaganda.0 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »soapsandropes wrote: »In fact, scientist within GI Departments at some of our leading institutions, (Cleveland Clinic is one
example) are now discovering diverse genetic disparities across the board with gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance, various mild allergies, inabilities to process B12 all causes by the inherited bacterial set of individual intestinal tracts. The rise of antibiotic use attributed to the rise in acid reflux in the past few decades and the need to use probiotics to no avail. In conclusion, a diet for one person may not work for another, due to their bacterial fauna in their gut. Cleanses can correct this.
No they don't. There are numerous studies that describe how difficult it is to change your gut microflora. Some people do change it but they basically have to clear it out and get a fecal transplant to add new bacteria back in.
I pray to the powers that be every day that I never have to get something called a "fecal transplant."
Can I somehow make money being a fecal donor? I mean, I'm aware they kinda lab it up a bit before the implant, but I can donate at least once a day, right?
Apparently, you can make a *kitten*-ton of money. Get started on your journey to become a professional poop donor
Holy s*it!
(pun intended)
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WinoGelato wrote: »Man I missed this thread yesterday. Glad at least past if it is still around so I can catch up. Let me see if I've got this:
We have an OP who asks about benefits of a cleanse.
People say there is no benefit, and they are expensive.
OP gets defensive talks about the success her dog had on a thread and repeatedly proclaims that she's not wasting money because the ingredients are all readily available in her pantry.
OP mentions Beyoncé and cuts and pastes some internet babble including a gem about formula being poisonous to babies.
OP thinks there is a generational gap contributing to the misunderstanding.
OP says she is a Paleontologist
Troll is identified
Hilarity ensues
But wait, there's more! Suddenly, from out of nowhere, a Netflix loving, White Knight shows up, proclaiming all the benefits of juicing to cure disease.
Did I miss anything?
This thread really does deliver...
You got it about right.
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kimmiebrito wrote: »If the sole purpose of it is to loseTherealobi1 wrote: »
I hear you but a cleanse is still not needed. Change of some habits is neededkimmiebrito wrote: »Fat sick & nearly dead
Food inc
Supersize me
Forks over knives
The gersom miracle
You guys need to stop being ignorant, food is fuels our body.
You put *kitten* into it you get *kitten* in return
You overload your micronutrients -- it'll work wonders.
That's why you hear of many people ridding of their diabetes by changing the way they eat.
Your diet is crucial to how your body functions.
If the sole purpose of it is to lose weight, it is not needed. It still does provide many benefits.. It was annoying me how people say it was a waste of money and does nothing, which is absolutely NOT true. I was addressing the people who said it does nothing for you. Remember, juicing isnt made up of processed food. It is made up of natural foods juiced, so that the body may absorb more of the nutrients. And juicing allows you to eat more fruit AND vegetables than you could if it was not in a liquid state, or in a single serving
Juicing just removes all the healthy fiber from the fruits and vegetables, and you get an overload of the fructose. I don't see how that's healthier than just eating them.0 -
I think I'm going to do a coffee cleanse 0
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Ignorance would be making claims when not looking at the issue as a whole. Diabetes is more genetically determined. Type II people are more prone to reduce having it by just lowering their weight. You CAN'T just overload on micronutrients. Ever hear of vitamin A poisoning?kimmiebrito wrote: »Fat sick & nearly dead
Food inc
Supersize me
Forks over knives
The gerson miracle
You guys need to stop being ignorant, food fuels our body.
You put *kitten* into it you get *kitten* in return
You overload your micronutrients -- it'll work wonders.
That's why you hear of so many people ridding of their diabetes by changing the way they eat.
And it's not a coincidence that some people who live under the same household, though not related, develop diabetes.
Your diet is crucial to how your body functions.
While a good diet is essential for better performance and health, one doesn't have to juice to or eat unprocessed to attain it.
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brianpperkins wrote: »kimmiebrito wrote: »Fat sick & nearly dead
Food inc
Supersize me
Forks over knives
The gerson miracle
You guys need to stop being ignorant, food fuels our body.
You put *kitten* into it you get *kitten* in return
You overload your micronutrients -- it'll work wonders.
That's why you hear of so many people ridding of their diabetes by changing the way they eat.
And it's not a coincidence that some people who live under the same household, though not related, develop diabetes.
Your diet is crucial to how your body functions.
Thank you for the list of movies targeting the gullible to push an agenda ... not documentaries based upon fact or science.
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Why is everyone saying "waste of money." I thought cleanses were
just paprika, honey, lemon and water
I'll admit to only having read the first page.
But paprika, honey, lemon, and water aren't free. Well, I guess water can be, and if you happen to have a lemon tree, honeybees, and the right chili peppers with which to make paprika on your land that you didn't plant yourself, OK. As such, waste of money.0 -
chivalryder wrote: »
It also sounds like detox0 -
FFFFUUUUUU
Got suckered into a troll thread.0
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