Diet Cokes ?

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  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    For some people it does cause cravings, for other it doesn't. You just have to go by how diet soda effects you personally.

    I'm one of those people that is/was greatly affected by artificial sweeteners. It did affect my cravings, I did gain a tremendous amount of weight drinking them (b/c it affects cravings which affected my appetite). And to top it off, the AS gave me a severe case of pancreatitis while pregnant (not a good thing!). Needless to say, I abruptly stopped my 6-8 can a day diet coke habit 15+ years ago and can't touch artificial sweeteners (they still affect me). That said, I still like a fizzy drink once in awhile so I drink Blue Sky Root Beer sweetened with stevia. Neither stevia nor xylitol seem to affect me. But I don't drink it often. Maybe one a week. I'm a water girl mostly. Because of my experience (and plenty of reading), I am firmly in the corner of the stuff is crap and no one should touch it. But like Christine said, not everyone is affected the way I was.
  • gwenster89
    gwenster89 Posts: 48 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    Feel free to post some of those totally countless studies which show it's soooooooo bad for youuuuuuu.

    oops I completely meant to. here's a bunch:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2008.284/full

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.short

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.355.2133&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/4/872.short

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150911094912.htm

    and one article that isn't from a peer-reviewed journal or academic institution buttttt it's jillian michaels, and she's the *kitten*...

    http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-diet-soda

    there are a bunch more. just type it into google scholar. it's all about just eating whole foods, man. the point is, these giant corporations want to keep you addicted to this stuff so you keep buying it. they put stuff in it that messes with your head. i think someone else mentioned that... the artificial sweeteners actually make you more hungry and crave more soda. point is, it's full of garbage. and like i said, there are totally other diet sodas out there that just don't have all the crap in them! my favorite is blue sky :) not a shaming thing at all. believeeeee me, i speak from experience.
  • jo_nz
    jo_nz Posts: 548 Member
    I'm pretty well convinced that soda is pretty bad....for teeth. I try to minimise my consumption of regular and diet soda as I have spent enough in dental care in recent years to make me keen to try anything I can to minimise future costs!

    I do occasionally drink diet drinks and I don't find diet affects my hunger.

    Interestingly though, I was watching a food doco on TV last week (Food Detectives, BBC) and they did a segment regarding diet/regular soda - giving a group of young men soda and then food after a sport training session.
    They found that when given diet soda, the men ate more, and overall both groups consumed the same approx calories.
    It wasn't clear to me whether they knew which drink they were getting (so the diet drinkers then felt they could "get away with" eating more).
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    malibu927 wrote: »
    Nope, no problem.

    The only problem I have with diet cokes are the taste. Pepsi max ftw.

    I don't know if you have the new Pepsi Zero in Canada yet, but I tried it the other day and I love it, almost as much as my Diet Dr. Pepper.

    I was trying to remember who it was that put the buzz in my brain about diet Dr Pepper. I had never tried it. Delightful.
  • gwenster89
    gwenster89 Posts: 48 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    There has literally been no studies that shows it's bad for you. 0. Could you point me to one?

    see above :)
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    .

    Would like link to one of these countless studies please.

    I never drank diet sodas until I started trying to lose weight - prior to that, when I drank sodas it was regular soda.

    Then I switched to Pepsi Max/diet coke about 3 years ago - my head seems the same, haven't noticed any messing being done to it.

    So would like link to see what is supposed to have happened to me.

    I'm pretty sure you're dead LOL :drinker:
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,347 Member
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    Feel free to post some of those totally countless studies which show it's soooooooo bad for youuuuuuu.

    oops I completely meant to. here's a bunch:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2008.284/full

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.short

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.355.2133&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/4/872.short

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150911094912.htm

    and one article that isn't from a peer-reviewed journal or academic institution buttttt it's jillian michaels, and she's the *kitten*...

    http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-diet-soda

    there are a bunch more. just type it into google scholar. it's all about just eating whole foods, man. the point is, these giant corporations want to keep you addicted to this stuff so you keep buying it. they put stuff in it that messes with your head. i think someone else mentioned that... the artificial sweeteners actually make you more hungry and crave more soda. point is, it's full of garbage. and like i said, there are totally other diet sodas out there that just don't have all the crap in them! my favorite is blue sky :) not a shaming thing at all. believeeeee me, i speak from experience.

    From your first link:
    Possible explanations for our findings

    There may be no causal relationship between AS use and weight gain. Individuals seeking to lose weight often switch to *kitten* in order to reduce their caloric intake. AS use might therefore simply be a marker for individuals already on weight-gain trajectories, which continued despite their switching to *kitten*. This is the most obvious possible explanation of our findings.

    LMFAO I could NOT work out why there were *kitten*'s cropping up in there. AS's.
  • gwenster89
    gwenster89 Posts: 48 Member
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    Feel free to post some of those totally countless studies which show it's soooooooo bad for youuuuuuu.

    oops I completely meant to. here's a bunch:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2008.284/full

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.short

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.355.2133&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/4/872.short

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150911094912.htm

    and one article that isn't from a peer-reviewed journal or academic institution buttttt it's jillian michaels, and she's the *kitten*...

    http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-diet-soda

    there are a bunch more. just type it into google scholar. it's all about just eating whole foods, man. the point is, these giant corporations want to keep you addicted to this stuff so you keep buying it. they put stuff in it that messes with your head. i think someone else mentioned that... the artificial sweeteners actually make you more hungry and crave more soda. point is, it's full of garbage. and like i said, there are totally other diet sodas out there that just don't have all the crap in them! my favorite is blue sky :) not a shaming thing at all. believeeeee me, i speak from experience.

    From your first link:
    Possible explanations for our findings

    There may be no causal relationship between AS use and weight gain. Individuals seeking to lose weight often switch to *kitten* in order to reduce their caloric intake. AS use might therefore simply be a marker for individuals already on weight-gain trajectories, which continued despite their switching to *kitten*. This is the most obvious possible explanation of our findings.

    Any good scientific study should explore sources of error. If you read the rest of the study, and the actual numbers, and not just take a tiny quote out of it, there's still a very strong correlation between diet soda consumption and weight gain.

    With that said, I'm not interested in getting in an argument about it. This is a place for mutual support, not to be yet another source of endless trolling. You asked for articles, and I provided. Be well.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    Feel free to post some of those totally countless studies which show it's soooooooo bad for youuuuuuu.

    oops I completely meant to. here's a bunch:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2008.284/full

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.short

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.355.2133&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/4/872.short

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150911094912.htm

    and one article that isn't from a peer-reviewed journal or academic institution buttttt it's jillian michaels, and she's the *kitten*...

    http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-diet-soda

    there are a bunch more. just type it into google scholar. it's all about just eating whole foods, man. the point is, these giant corporations want to keep you addicted to this stuff so you keep buying it. they put stuff in it that messes with your head. i think someone else mentioned that... the artificial sweeteners actually make you more hungry and crave more soda. point is, it's full of garbage. and like i said, there are totally other diet sodas out there that just don't have all the crap in them! my favorite is blue sky :) not a shaming thing at all. believeeeee me, i speak from experience.

    From your first link:
    Possible explanations for our findings

    There may be no causal relationship between AS use and weight gain. Individuals seeking to lose weight often switch to *kitten* in order to reduce their caloric intake. AS use might therefore simply be a marker for individuals already on weight-gain trajectories, which continued despite their switching to *kitten*. This is the most obvious possible explanation of our findings.

    LMFAO I could NOT work out why there were *kitten*'s cropping up in there. AS's.

    :laugh:
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    gwenster89 wrote: »
    i'm sure tons of people have been able to lose weight and keep drinking diet soda but it's soooooo bad for youuuuuuu. the chemicals in it seriously mess with your head and there have been a ton of studies to prove this. like, not just one fringe study with iffy results, but truly countless studies.

    i used to be a hopeless diet coke addict and then i finally switched to seltzer. i realized that when i craved diet coke, the fizziness of seltzer totally did the trick. there are also tons of diet sodas that are sweetened with natural zero-calorie sweeteners like stevia instead of aspartame. or you can drink kombucha! it does have sugar but it's processed by yeast and bacteria so it doesn't cause the same insulin spike.

    Feel free to post some of those totally countless studies which show it's soooooooo bad for youuuuuuu.

    oops I completely meant to. here's a bunch:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2008.284/full

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.short

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.355.2133&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/53/4/872.short

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150911094912.htm

    and one article that isn't from a peer-reviewed journal or academic institution buttttt it's jillian michaels, and she's the *kitten*...

    http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fit/lose-weight/myth-diet-soda

    there are a bunch more. just type it into google scholar. it's all about just eating whole foods, man. the point is, these giant corporations want to keep you addicted to this stuff so you keep buying it. they put stuff in it that messes with your head. i think someone else mentioned that... the artificial sweeteners actually make you more hungry and crave more soda. point is, it's full of garbage. and like i said, there are totally other diet sodas out there that just don't have all the crap in them! my favorite is blue sky :) not a shaming thing at all. believeeeee me, i speak from experience.

    From your first link:
    Possible explanations for our findings

    There may be no causal relationship between AS use and weight gain. Individuals seeking to lose weight often switch to *kitten* in order to reduce their caloric intake. AS use might therefore simply be a marker for individuals already on weight-gain trajectories, which continued despite their switching to *kitten*. This is the most obvious possible explanation of our findings.

    LMFAO I could NOT work out why there were *kitten*'s cropping up in there. AS's.

    I did not even think about what the kitten filter would do to that quote! :drinker:
  • misskarne
    misskarne Posts: 1,765 Member
    how specific. Its weird though, do you not agree that water is the best way to go? There is nothing good for you in diet coke or soda in general. Given it won't make you fat, but it is not healthy. It's best to KICK THE HABIT and learn to drink water instead. I researched this on my own and came to my own opinion, I encourage anyone to do the same! It's a lifestyle, so everyone's will be different. Things you choose as important will be different than mine. Soda was my first thing to go, coffee however is most important!

    Do you even know what aspartame is?
    Did you know that diet drinks are actually 99% water?
    Can you post your diet soda research?
    And, do you avoid DHMO?

    Thankfully, I wasn't taking a sip of my diet soda when I read this. It may have ended up leaving my body through my nose. LOL

    Lucky you. I was.

    :s
  • joburnolt
    joburnolt Posts: 16 Member
    Diet coke is actually a great option. And don't worry about the artificial sweeteners, your body doesn't even process those, and they come out the other end without any harm done. I'd actually recommend Monster Zero Calorie Energy drinks, and coffee with non-fat milk. Good tasting options with hardly any calories.
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