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  • cambridgestylist
    cambridgestylist Posts: 37 Member
    When I tried low carb in the past I didn't feel good on it. It just wasn't for me. I did have a boyfriend who lost 50 pounds on Atkins and kept it off for a while. Following the MFP plan and having a balanced diet has worked really well for me so far. I have cut out a lot of refined carbs and table sugar, only because it makes it easier to stay within my calorie allowance. Just personal preference.

    I'm down 18 pounds and counting, I'm not miserable eating this way and logging food on this site is very easy.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    livingleanlivingclean wrote: »
    Sandtigress wrote: »
    Sugar didn't make you gain weight...EXCESS CALORIES DID!

    Well yeah, obviously! Overeating sugar ;) Bash fat all you want, but I can tell you that I have never sat with a tub of butter, unable to put the utensil down because I just HAD to have another bite. Substitute butter with ice cream however, and you'll see where my weight problems come from.

    If you re-read my post, I had nothing bad to say about restricting all calories and keeping sugar in your diet. It is (not-so-simple) physics of energy in, energy out (not-so-simple due to the variables that can change the rate (metabolism) of the individual's energy expenditure, but simple due to the easy to understand concept of what goes in, must come out) This was just my viewpoint on a type of diet that a lot of people seem misinformed about. I don't think many people just jump on the ketogenic diet without doing some research first. And the research predominantly states that it's hella good for my purposes.

    But you've sat down with a bag of sugar and a spoon and eaten the whole thing?

    This^

    Ice cream is NOT just carbs. It's a combination of ingredients (a recipe) and the macros are carbs, fat & protein.

    My problem is I like "yummy" foods....so no, I don't see myself sitting down to a stick of butter.
  • Skyblueyellow
    Skyblueyellow Posts: 225 Member
    Firesprite93 wrote: »
    My dietician has put me on something similar. I'm only allowed a total of 105g of carbs a day. And they have to be consumed in small 15g increments except lunch which is 30g.
    It is because I am insulin resistant, and have hypothyroidism. Making it very difficult to lose weight, even on a calorie deficit

    I get 130 grams of carbohydrates daily (macro goal is set to 35% of 1,490 calories). Sometimes I eat all 130 grams, sometimes I'm shy of that. I have Hashi's with associated hypothyroidism and Type II diabetes. Are you taking your blood sugar? Just curious because 15 g/carb at a clip isn't a lot. I actually eat the vast majority of my carbs between 5 and 10 pm. The salad I'm eating right now (romaine, tomatoes, cucumbers, whole fat mozzarella, and a hard-boiled egg) is about 10 grams of carbs. Just be careful about low blood sugar is what I'm saying, I suppose. Last Thursday I had a horrible incident after eating only a salad and then doing a 45 minute yoga session. It was not enough to sustain me and they had to bring me juice.
  • Skyblueyellow
    Skyblueyellow Posts: 225 Member
    I also wanted to point out that you most definitely can lose weight with hypothyroidism. My TSH is WAY OFF. Like they want it between 1 and 2 and we are having one heck of a time getting me lower than 30. I've lost about 36 lbs since I've been consistently logging in August 2016. In that time I've taken some breaks. I took about 2 weeks off (spread over the fall holidays) that I ate at maintenance. I think what you might mean is that hypothyroidism can throw off your BMR, in which case you will need to adjust your deficit. You will still lose if you adjust your calories around that, however.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    tiffaninghs wrote: »
    tinaisstillwell wrote: »
    This is basically a Ketogenic, or high fat/low carb diet (HFLC). I've eaten this way for over a year and have lost over 30 lbs.
    This type of diet is good for those who have a lot of weight to lose. The fat consumed helps increase the feeling of satiety; allowing for decreased cravings and hunger.
    Mainstream nutrition generally doesn't agree with this type of diet, but it works.

    i too had great results from this over a short period of time. i definitely recommend it.. but not forever since it can be hard on the heart

    Okay - not forever. Because low carb will not be a lifestyle change for you please have a replacement plan in place before you get to maintenance.
  • kendahlj
    kendahlj Posts: 243 Member
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    kendahlj wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!

    Not necessarily. If she stays on it as the doctor explained the diet to her without a set calorie goal, she may or may not be successful. Only time will tell.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
    CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    I questioned my doctor about the bacon because he said no fried food and I also know it's fat is high.



    Pigs do not contain sugar.

    But the babies are so sweet!

    Lm5JL.gif

    If I had to choose between giving up bacon forever and killing that poor sweet little adorable piggy myself.......hand me the knife, I'm hungry.

    It needs a feed bag and a couple of year first....
  • kendahlj
    kendahlj Posts: 243 Member
    PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »
    kendahlj wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!

    Not necessarily. If she stays on it as the doctor explained the diet to her without a set calorie goal, she may or may not be successful. Only time will tell.

    There has to be a reasonable amount of common sense with any new way of eating. The doctor basically suggested she cut out sweets and starchy foods. If she does this and eats reasonably the things on the list that are "okay," she'll feel great and lose weight. If it doesn't work in helping her lose weight (not every way of eating works for everyone), then no harm done and she can try something else. It's certainly not going to hurt her, like people on this thread have suggested.
  • kendahlj
    kendahlj Posts: 243 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    kendahlj wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!

    Goodness knows it's important to get those pesky lentils and fruit out of everyone's diet. They are such a scourge!

    Why are you projecting false information? Nothing in her post said she couldn't eat lentils. In fact, she said she could eat beans (lumping them with vegetables). I don't necessarily think you need to cut out fruit, but if you're trying to lose weight you can safely eliminate it from your diet and introduce it slowly later if you want. You can get the vitamins and nutrients you get from fruit elsewhere.
  • whiskeykittentoo
    whiskeykittentoo Posts: 43 Member
    I'm on LCHF (ketogenic) and only been on it for just over 2 weeks and already seeing results. I'm not hungry - I never have to count calories or starve myself - and I am losing body fat daily. dietdoctor.com has been a great asset in this for me. Feel free to add me if you want support and help.
  • hbunting86
    hbunting86 Posts: 952 Member
    Just to play devil's avocado - where do legumes fit in with this and fibre? Also that important issue that hasn't really been mentioned a lot: exercise. GP's aren't known for their prowess in terms of dietary knowledge. They're called 'general practitioners' for exactly that reason. I'd be far more inclined to ask for a referral to a dietitian (not nutritionist) to really have a more in-depth look at your diet and how exactly you can make the weight loss manageable and a lifestyle change rather than to 'fix' a problem. Lifestyle change is sustainable whereas crash dieting or diet plans which are really restrictive just set you up to fail. They're not sustainable in the long term and in some cases can do more harm than good. It's all well and good saying that you can eat as much meat as you like - is this really a good thing? If we look at the global trends and statistics, the countries with the highest red meat consumption per capita also proportionately have the highest rates of colorectal cancers. In this sense, it can be a case of trading in one health complaint in lieu of another.

    Protein can be found in many many plant sources. Edamame beans are particularly high in protein, and if you like tofu, that's another great source. I'm not a vegetarian but am mindful of the concept of moderation. It's far more reasonable to eliminate 'added' or refined sugars in your diet as has been mentioned. Regardless of composition, if you eat in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. You need to work out the deficit that gives you a steady progressive weight loss that is sustainable and also enjoyable. Bear in mind exercising brings the added benefits of speeding up metabolism, improving overall health - plus you can eat back your exercise calories. I'd do a bit more reading and don't be afraid to question your GP. Good luck!
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    kendahlj wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    kendahlj wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!

    Goodness knows it's important to get those pesky lentils and fruit out of everyone's diet. They are such a scourge!

    Why are you projecting false information? Nothing in her post said she couldn't eat lentils. In fact, she said she could eat beans (lumping them with vegetables). I don't necessarily think you need to cut out fruit, but if you're trying to lose weight you can safely eliminate it from your diet and introduce it slowly later if you want. You can get the vitamins and nutrients you get from fruit elsewhere.



    OP's "plan" specifically excludes beans:
    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas.
  • Yooperm35
    Yooperm35 Posts: 787 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    scibba wrote: »

    For the person who said "This site is based on calorie reduction...with guidelines on nutritional macros (fiber, sodium, protein, etc.) to aim for...and promoting it in a SUSTAINABLE way." THAT Is a crazy diet.

    calorie reduction is impossible to sustain. If it wasn't - jenny craig, weight watchers and all of those other 'calorie counting' diets would not be making money and getting repeat clients. Why? We all know, once you go back to eating all those calories, you gain the weight back.

    I just wanted to address the last two paragraphs. I'm curious how you perceive eating a balanced diet with a variety of foods in a calorie deficit and the recommendation to eat in a way that is sustainable as a crazy diet? Yet cutting out entire food groups to help achieve that calorie deficit is not?

    Also, to the final paragraph: A calorie deficit is not something that is meant to be sustained forever. What is advocated for on this site is to eat at an appropriate calorie deficit based on your goals (how much to lose and a reasonable rate of loss). As a user gets closer to goal, the deficit is reduced and weight loss is slowed to 0.5 lb/week in order to help ease the transition into maintenance at an appropriate calorie level for the new weight.

    Of course if you go back to eating the same number of calories as before, i.e. an energy surplus, you would gain the weight back. That also goes for people who cut out foods in order to lose weight, if they go back to eating the same as before in a calorie surplus, they too would gain the weight back. Certainly there are a lot of people who are successful at losing but not at maintaining - but in my opinion, the more dramatic the approach during weight loss, the lower the chances for long term success. For me, something that involves the word NO anything would be extreme and less likely to be sustainable even during the weight loss process. NSNG would be something that I think is way more restrictive than what the majority of people need to undertake in order to be successful.

    what 'entire food group' exactly did I cut out?
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    kendahlj wrote: »
    PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »
    kendahlj wrote: »
    microwoman999 wrote: »
    Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
    The paper he gave me states
    1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
    2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.

    Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it

    Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.

    Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok

    Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.

    Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like

    Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.

    Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.

    I think this sounds great! Ignore the naysayers. If you stick to this, you'll lose weight and feel great. Good luck!!

    Not necessarily. If she stays on it as the doctor explained the diet to her without a set calorie goal, she may or may not be successful. Only time will tell.

    There has to be a reasonable amount of common sense with any new way of eating. The doctor basically suggested she cut out sweets and starchy foods. If she does this and eats reasonably the things on the list that are "okay," she'll feel great and lose weight. If it doesn't work in helping her lose weight (not every way of eating works for everyone), then no harm done and she can try something else. It's certainly not going to hurt her, like people on this thread have suggested.

    I agree. I was one of them.

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