Looking for friends who don't eat "clean" and healthy
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quiksylver296 wrote: »It's my birthday! Dutch Bros frou-frou coffee, cheeseburgers, and cheesecake will be consumed!
Happy birthday! I hope you had a great day!
(And what kind of "frou-frou" coffee did you have? (Don't know what Dutch Bros. is - is that a brand, or a restaurant? ) I used to love getting one of the alcoholic types of coffee with about an inch of cream on the top for a special treat, but I can't even remember the last time I had one of those!)
Very late answering, sorry.
Dutch Bros is a coffee shop, started in Oregon in 1992 and spreading out. Their coffee is awesome (so much better than Charbucks)! I always get an ER911, which is an Irish Cream mocha with six shots of espresso. 20 ounces = ~400 calories, so it's only a "sometimes food"
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Clean Eating is a scam and does not have an objective definition.
-Eating some of your calories from less nutrient dense sources is not going to give you a nutrient deficiency.
-There is no evidence that moderate amounts of any food directly damages your health
-Before you quibble with me over what is moderate.. I don't have a direct answer as the definition of depends on who’s eating the food and how much they’re eating.
-Personal preference matters.
It's worth noting that some individuals have a hard time eating in moderation, and it may be smart to remove some foods that they normally binge on, at least for a while. Put another way, a food that is “healthy” for one person might be inappropriate for another in a given context. Furthermore, purposefully overeating can be an effective tool in making progress.
So go ahead demonize pizza, pop tarts, bacon, ice cream or whatever but these are not banned from my food list...
Do I eat "less" junk" sure but that doesn't mean I eat "zero junk"....
/end of rant
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Clean Eating is a scam and does not have an objective definition.
-Eating some of your calories from less nutrient dense sources is not going to give you a nutrient deficiency.
-There is no evidence that moderate amounts of any food directly damages your health
-Before you quibble with me over what is moderate.. but I don't have a direct answer as the definition of terms depends on who’s eating the food and how much they’re eating.
-Personal preference matters.
It's worth noting that some individuals have a hard time eating in moderation, and it may be smart to remove some foods that they normally binge on, at least for a while. Put another way, a food that is “healthy” for one person might be inappropriate for another in a given context. Furthermore, purposefully overeating can be an effective tool in making progress.
So go ahead demonize pizza, pop tarts, bacon, ice cream or whatever but these are not banned from my food list...
Do I eat "less" junk" sure but that doesn't mean I eat "zero junk"....
/end of rant
Preaching Ranting to the choir, @_Bro.4 -
Obviously it's your choice. I don't know about you, but I'd rather eat clean and look like the girl on the right.
not enough info to make a distinction ..
what do they mean by "bad' diet..
and no one in this thread is saying that you can out exercise a bad diet. What we are saying is that you can eat the food you like, hit micros and macros, and still meet your body composition goals.6 -
Guyyysss it was my beeday yesterday and this weekend I ate EVERYTHING.
Made homemade ravioli and sauce and served with garlic bread Friday
Saturday was my birthday dinner at a steakhouse with filet mignon, sides, moscato, and a hot fudge sundae
Saturday I had lunch at Panera and had thier broccoli cheddar soup
And yesterday for my actual birthday I had Taco Bell, ramen, and the homemade chocolate cheesecake that my husband made me:
(Here is said sexy husband lighting my candles)
Annnddd now I'm done for a while. Back on track. Macros and exercise . I am not Catholic but I view Lent as a challenge, and I have given up pre-prepared sweets (so if I want cookies I better make em). I feel good. I'm happy. I'm ready to ride the wagon another few miles before another get-off-and-strech break7 -
Illy_Mooncat wrote: »Guyyysss it was my beeday yesterday and this weekend I ate EVERYTHING.
Made homemade ravioli and sauce and served with garlic bread Friday
Saturday was my birthday dinner at a steakhouse with filet mignon, sides, moscato, and a hot fudge sundae
Saturday I had lunch at Panera and had thier broccoli cheddar soup
And yesterday for my actual birthday I had Taco Bell, ramen, and the homemade chocolate cheesecake that my husband made me:
(Here is said sexy husband lighting my candles)
Annnddd now I'm done for a while. Back on track. Macros and exercise . I am not Catholic but I view Lent as a challenge, and I have given up pre-prepared sweets (so if I want cookies I better make em). I feel good. I'm happy. I'm ready to ride the wagon another few miles before another get-off-and-strech break
Happy birthday! Yay for birthday cheesecake!2 -
Illy_Mooncat wrote: »Guyyysss it was my beeday yesterday and this weekend I ate EVERYTHING.
Made homemade ravioli and sauce and served with garlic bread Friday
Saturday was my birthday dinner at a steakhouse with filet mignon, sides, moscato, and a hot fudge sundae
Saturday I had lunch at Panera and had thier broccoli cheddar soup
And yesterday for my actual birthday I had Taco Bell, ramen, and the homemade chocolate cheesecake that my husband made me:
(Here is said sexy husband lighting my candles)
Annnddd now I'm done for a while. Back on track. Macros and exercise . I am not Catholic but I view Lent as a challenge, and I have given up pre-prepared sweets (so if I want cookies I better make em). I feel good. I'm happy. I'm ready to ride the wagon another few miles before another get-off-and-strech break
Happy belated birthday!!!! Glad you enjoyed yesterday, sounds delicious!!2 -
@Illy_Mooncat Happy Birthday...and wait, your husband cooks?? jelly3
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happy birthday recent birthdayers!
@Verity1111 i made the vegetarian chicken and dumplings for dinner last night! (and lunch for the next 3 days) and it's super good! it's 560 cals per serving and you are not kidding about the sodium! my ankles are like balloons today. i know it will flush out though, i have a sensitivity to salt but only in bloating and not for health.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »It's my birthday! Dutch Bros frou-frou coffee, cheeseburgers, and cheesecake will be consumed!
Happy birthday! I hope you had a great day!
(And what kind of "frou-frou" coffee did you have? (Don't know what Dutch Bros. is - is that a brand, or a restaurant? ) I used to love getting one of the alcoholic types of coffee with about an inch of cream on the top for a special treat, but I can't even remember the last time I had one of those!)
Very late answering, sorry.
Dutch Bros is a coffee shop, started in Oregon in 1992 and spreading out. Their coffee is awesome (so much better than Charbucks)! I always get an ER911, which is an Irish Cream mocha with six shots of espresso. 20 ounces = ~400 calories, so it's only a "sometimes food"
Sounds delicious! (Some of those others sound pretty good too...) Glad you got to enjoy one as a treat.0 -
Illy_Mooncat wrote: »Guyyysss it was my beeday yesterday and this weekend I ate EVERYTHING.
Made homemade ravioli and sauce and served with garlic bread Friday
Saturday was my birthday dinner at a steakhouse with filet mignon, sides, moscato, and a hot fudge sundae
Saturday I had lunch at Panera and had thier broccoli cheddar soup
And yesterday for my actual birthday I had Taco Bell, ramen, and the homemade chocolate cheesecake that my husband made me:
Annnddd now I'm done for a while. Back on track. Macros and exercise . I am not Catholic but I view Lent as a challenge, and I have given up pre-prepared sweets (so if I want cookies I better make em). I feel good. I'm happy. I'm ready to ride the wagon another few miles before another get-off-and-strech break
Happy birthday! And congrats on finding a man who'll cook for you...1 -
@Illy_Mooncat Happy Birthday...and wait, your husband cooks?? jelly
I know, right?1 -
Obviously it's your choice. I don't know about you, but I'd rather eat clean and look like the girl on the right.
1. The girl on the right has most likely been retouched...
2. You do not need to eat "clean" to look like that...
3. If you want to eat "clean" that's fine, but just think how pissed you'd be when you find out that it was not necessary...
Finally getting caught up on this thread and yeah to all of this
Back when I first transitioned into maintenance my bmi got down to around 19, and then I did a push-ups challenge where at the end of 6ish weeks I was able to do 100 push ups. The results were very defined/noticeable abs (and back/shoulders). I didn't eat 'clean' though, in fact during this time I was eating fast food 4-5 times a week. I went through my old stuff and found this untouched picture, done while eating 'dirty'.
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jessiferrrb wrote: »happy birthday recent birthdayers!
@Verity1111 i made the vegetarian chicken and dumplings for dinner last night! (and lunch for the next 3 days) and it's super good! it's 560 cals per serving and you are not kidding about the sodium! my ankles are like balloons today. i know it will flush out though, i have a sensitivity to salt but only in bloating and not for health.
Lol! Mine was 290cal per serving but I used smallish biscuit dough (I got it from aldi) compared to what I usually see they were a lot smaller! Plus I barely used any "chicken" lol but yeah I really did enjoy it0 -
I'm thinking I found my place. I am not giving up my quick and easy after work McDonald's grilled chicken bacon wrap. I also feel real poutine is a NEED in my life (as long as I don't eat it too often).5
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Totally over my calories for the day, but it was a celebration lunch with my mom for my new job. Totally worth it!7
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I had a lot of extra cals today...Because I feel like it dangit.3
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Staceygram wrote: »I'm thinking I found my place. I am not giving up my quick and easy after work McDonald's grilled chicken bacon wrap. I also feel real poutine is a NEED in my life (as long as I don't eat it too often).
I'm pretty new in this thread myself! Welcome!!3 -
Thank you everyone for the beeday wishes! @SueSueDio @jcraig10 he doesn't cook often... But when he does it's things like my birthday cheesecake, or curry with homemade curry paste... So if he gets a bee in his bonnet to make some thing I just stand aside and offer tips as needed ("Do I have to use the food processor or do you think the blender will be okay instead?") LOL1
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