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I don't support the fat acceptance/plus size movement.

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  • Posts: 4,855 Member
    I just think its a way for the medical industry to just cash in on peoples un-healthy life styles while at the same time justifying a reason for someone not to care about them selfs or get "fit" because they should be "perfect" the way they are.
    Although good intentioned it is, and I do believe it is good to love yourself...but you should have loved yourself enough to make your only body you have, healthy...

    Agree except I would think the fashion industry is the one trying to cash in.
  • Posts: 471 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »

    Agree except I would think the fashion industry is the one trying to cash in.

    Yeah they are both big empires that strive to make money... its kinda ironic fashion and medical industry is kinda like yin yang in some ways
  • Posts: 4,855 Member
    If you have group insurance, which almost everyone does, it still affects you.

    And where your tax dollars support many that don't have group or purchase their own insurance.

  • Posts: 428 Member
    They called you a "shallow bully"? They should look in the mirror and say that to themselves.

    Can't make everyone happy. Swipe them off your shoulder and be glad you are not part of their clique.
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    Meh. Super fit people have falls, accidents, and injuries resulting from their healthy activities that result in countless doctor visits, surgeries and procedures, rehabilitation, and sometimes hospitalization. My job allows me to witness this sort of thing regularly. All of that also raises rates. If you choose to share a health insurance plan, you share it with all.

    I don't chose to share a health insurance. It's obligatory where I live. If you can't prove you have a health insurance (or forget to submit the proof to the proper government office), they issue a health insurance police in your name that you pay, regardless of whether you want it or not. So I pay upwards of 400$ each month and I'm not given a choice about it. Paying that amount, does not mean I get every medical intervention for free. I still pay up to a deductible and once that deductible is reach I keep on paying 10%. That concerns only illnesses.

    Injuries due to accident are payed for by a different insurance and covered to 100%. So my monthly payment doesn't even go to cover that. That's a different payment plan (deducted from your salary as a percentage of what you earn). :neutral:

  • Posts: 2,468 Member
    ladyreva78 wrote: »

    I don't chose to share a health insurance. It's obligatory where I live. If you can't prove you have a health insurance (or forget to submit the proof to the proper government office), they issue a health insurance police in your name that you pay, regardless of whether you want it or not. So I pay upwards of 400$ each month and I'm not given a choice about it. Paying that amount, does not mean I get every medical intervention for free. I still pay up to a deductible and once that deductible is reach I keep on paying 10%. That concerns only illnesses.

    Injuries due to accident are payed for by a different insurance and covered to 100%. So my monthly payment doesn't even go to cover that. That's a different payment plan (deducted from your salary as a percentage of what you earn). :neutral:
    Where do you live Ladyrva? Proof of health insurance is now obligatory in your country, how long has that been put into place? Just interested.

  • Posts: 4,080 Member
    Gamliela wrote: »
    Where do you live Ladyrva? Proof of health insurance is now obligatory in your country, how long has that been put into place? Just interested.

    Switzerland.
    It's been like that for as long as I've been an adult and in charge of paying my own health insurance (I'm 35), so can't really say how long. Not sure how my mom's illness when she was 6 was paid for (my grandparents were dirt poor and could never have afforded a 3 months hospital stay or the follow up treatment for 2 years after). But I think the system has been in place for several decades - probably since long before my birth.

    So the moment you're 18, you get served with that nice little bill every month. Before that your parents are responsible for paying.

    We still have an excellent system but it's not a system we can really afford anymore (our insurances premiums tend to go up by a double digit percentage on a nearly yearly basis. Last year it went up by a mere 6% and we considered ourselves lucky...). Long term, the added workload from obesity related illnesses, an ever aging population, the better survivability of illnesses such as cancer, and a growing tendency to run to the doctor for every damned cold is going to bankrupt either the system or the people paying for it.

    Reason why I think obesity should be tackled much more aggressively and why I don't find 'fat-acceptance' acceptable in the long term. Yes, someone might be healthy and obese, but it doesn't stay that way forever and the risk of developing conditions just starts to go up and up. I was in the situation where my obesity was making me ill (pre-diabetes, NAFLD, ...) and I chose to do something about that instead of simply treating the symptoms with medications. I wish I had done something much sooner as some of the damage done is permanent (I will probably need knee replacements sooner or later, my skin will never fully recover, and I will never drink another glass of wine because of the risks to my liver - no matter how amazing an organ it is and how much crap it will forgive and forget).

    I'm much happier now (BMI 28 and dropping). I can move around much more freely now and my current 10 year prognosis doesn't include divorcing from my liver and knee replacements.
  • Posts: 4,658 Member
    Health aside, the world is a judgemental place whether people want to believe it or not. By no means do I agree that it's right but that's how it is!
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