June 2017 Running Challenge
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WhatMeRunning wrote: »I'm getting a laugh out of the discussion around announcing you are about to pass vs just blowing right by! I seem to switch back and forth and have yet to find the right method that doesn't result in people getting the kitten scared out of them. When I announce myself to walkers in front of me (I don't pass runners because I'm too slow) they always jump and freak out. Even when they have a dog with them who knows I'm coming because, well, it's a dog! When I have a wider path and just go around, same thing most times.
Actually, just about a week ago I passed by some walkers unannounced because we had already seen each other as I was running up to the intersection, they were just a bit ahead of me by the time I turned on the path, I know they saw me, and should have been a bit aware I was coming, or so I thought. It was a teenage girl and her mom. I was about to go off into the grass to pass in order to give them the path when the daughter stopped to tie her shoes and the mom kept walking ahead. So I just weaved around really quick and as I was headed up to pass the mom her daughter shouted out really loud, "Mom, look out"! The mom leapt off the path freaked out and I said, "You're fine, sorry to scare you". Yeah, that was weird. I could have scared both of them, I guess, by just announcing myself. Not sure which is better. I always hear people behind me long before they pass, so announced or otherwise it doesn't bother me. The only time I remember being scared was when I heard dog tags clinging and closing in on me from behind really fast as two loose dogs flew by. That was nerve wracking knowing a dog was closing in and I had no clue what to expect.
I feel like everybody has a personal preference on this. The posted rules on the multi-use path that I run on a lot are that cyclists are to signal when passing. It doesn't say anything about runners. Personally, I'm grateful when someone on a bike announces themselves because I usually run with headphones in and can't always hear a bike coming up from behind. I also tend to run near the center line when I don't think anyone's around since the path is fairly sloped in places and I'll move over if I know someone's there. I don't really ever announce myself when I'm running past someone else and I don't really expect them to do that for me either. I may say "excuse me" if a particular group is taking up the whole width of the path, but this particular path is fairly wide and gets enough traffic that most people stay on their side of the center line. In the case that I'm coming up behind someone that I don't think knows I'm there, I'll usually cough or make some other noise to let them know I'm there...or just let them be surprised.
My step-dad has a big problem with people who say "On your left" during a race because he takes it to mean that they think their race is more important than his and that they think everyone should move out of the way for them. I think the few times this has happened to him has likely been a situation where the person didn't want an elbow in the chest rather than thinking he should move over for them.MNLittleFinn wrote: »VydorScope wrote: »It is in the 90's here right now. Was planing an easy run after my 15 miles in the upper 80's yesterday. Having a hard time convincing myself to go out. heh
um... I think I'd die if I had to go out in the afternoon in 90 degree weather. You are amazing if you do it, and totally a normal human if you don't....
I was wanting to go to a group pub run tomorrow evening that one of the local running stores has every Monday, but it's supposed to be in the 90s tomorrow. Otherwise, I wasn't planning on running until Tuesday morning. I'm only supposed to run 3 easy miles so we'll see if I make it there or not. I haven't run in anything about 85 so far this year.
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VydorScope wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »VydorScope wrote: »It is in the 90's here right now. Was planing an easy run after my 15 miles in the upper 80's yesterday. Having a hard time convincing myself to go out. heh
um... I think I'd die if I had to go out in the afternoon in 90 degree weather. You are amazing if you do it, and totally a normal human if you don't....
Right now I am telling myself if I wait for the Sun to get low in the sky it will not be so bad. I am not really convincing though.
Well I did it, and my JLabs Epic 2 headphones died when I was couple miles from home. This is my third set ot die, the first set lasted like 8 months, the second less than 30 days (returned to store) and the third (new warrenty replacement for first set) less than 60 days. Not going to bother making a calim this time. Just will find a new brand.1 -
Well. Maybe I should put jingle bells on my feet. Ugh. That be SO annoying. I'll stick to scaring folks and not giving a kitten.5
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Looking awesome!!! @Elise4270
Here's the Embrace the Suck MFP Monthly Running Challenge T-shirts linky in case anyone missed it:
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Ran an easy 5K. Tommorow is weight lifting I might not run or maybe an easy 3.5K we shall see. I tried using Strava for the first time but my app got stuck on the settings screen and there was no back button, anyone have that problem happen to them? I am talking about the settings screen you get after clicking Record an activity and then the top left icon, where you can turn on auto-pause, beacon and stuff like that.
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98 posts so will have some catching up to do.
@katharmonic Your "Hernia Hill" sounds like just about every hill in town that we run, except for the most challenging hill, all 7ft elevation of it - aptly called Sissy Hill. Actually it borders a historical property along the River bank owned by the Sisson Family so more of a play on their name.
10.5 km along the Riverbank tonight, for what is only my second run of the week due to all the work required for our local Heritage Run. Had to do the OCD Lap my street to get the 0.5.
06/02 15.0 km – 145.0 km - 15.0km
06/03 11.5 km – 133.0 km - 26.5km
06/07 5.66 km – 127.34 km - 32.16km
06/11 10.5 km – 116.84 km - 42.66km – YTD 621.41 Post Heritage Run Stretch & Relax
We hosted our Local Heritage Run Race today. At the start line at 0500 for setup/street barricades, marking etc. Tears down at 1300. 1400 sitting in the local Smitty's having Brunch with the other 9 members in the organizing group. It was a very cool day and overcast, perfect for running, not so much for being a Volunteer.
A small event - 94 participants between the 5, 10 and HM distances, plus 50 more in the Team Events.
Most of the Teams were families doing the 10k, except for one team of 10 kids from a local daycare ( all under 5 yrs ) that did 1k each with their adult chaperone. The best part all 9 were waiting about 50m out for there last runner so they came in as a big group of Giggling kids
As a small group we don't have Bling Bags, No medals this year due to a shortage of Sponsors, but a great shirt and only $25.00 with 80-90% donated to the museum. But for the kids we had Cookie Medals.
Okay so I am not a kid and a bad Cookie Medal Model, but a good Cookie Monster.
Now that it's done we can get back to a normal life routine.
@JessicaMcB Since the Smoky River outside GC drains into Peace River - How Much Rain did you get in your area?
I seen a post that the Hwy 40 had a Landslide / wash out and in Tumbler ridge the Murray River Road is washed out. The Peace River that runs through town gets water from the Smoky River and 4 other major rivers feeding into it that come out of the mountains/foothills and they had a major rain storm yesterday. This morning the water level had jumped by 3 meters ( ~ 9.8 ft ) from yesterdays level. There were so many trees floating down stream on the East bank that it looked like you could walk across the River on the Trees.7 -
WhatMeRunning wrote: »I've tried, "On your left" only to scare people and still have to move around, then apologize and look back if they were older. I recall passing an older guy on a hoveround one day and announcing I was passing because I didn't want to startle him. He went up out of his seat!! I looked back a bit later to make sure he was still upright.
I've tried, "Runner", and other things, can't recall the exact words, but whatever came to mind. Same thing. I might as we be wearing a Freddy Kreuger costume and be in a strobe light in a haunted house and step out from the shadows asking someone if they would kindly find it in their hearts to donate to charity.
I like the bikers with the little bell thingy. That to me seems the best way to rather unobtrusively let people know you're coming up. I guess I need to carry one of those on a wrist strap? I've also considered an air horn.
I apparently still am about as graceful and quiet as a drunken elephant when running. Generally walkers will look back at me to figure out what in the holy heck is huffing and puffing and plodding and thumping behind them long before I am poised to go around. If I have an issue it is not because they do not know I am there, it is because they truly want to obstruct the entire path whether I am coming or not.
I appreciate bikers announcing themselves. But my brain has issues with the "on your left" bit. My brain hears that and directs me to MOVE to my left, not my right, and and I can't seem to train it otherwise. It is bad enough my running buddy has learned to just grab my arm and drag me the correct direction with her, if that is the notification given.
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Om nom nom @juliet3455 ! Sounds like an awesome event!1
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@orphia - ordered my shirt yesterday!
@juliet3455 - love the cookie medals and the kindergarten running group! So fun and so aewsome!
On the passing people subject - I always call out but from a ways back though... usually no one gets too startled unless I wait and am too close. I run with my dog and I especially want them to know I am passing, with a dog, if they are also walking with a dog. Often times people walking their dogs are clueless where or what their dog is doing even when on leash and they end up getting yanked around by their dog wanting to see or chase mine. I always keep mine on the side away from people, kids and other dogs if I can. He isn't mean, won't bite or growl but will bark if startled or threatened by another dog or a child. I had a similar experience as @zdyb23456 with a small kid on a bike coming right at us and not slowing or moving out of the way. I screamed at him and at his parents. Basically told them to control their kid if they didn't want him to get hurt or bit by a dog. Mine didn't react but he certainly could have. I do appreciate cyclists who let me know they are coming up behind me and when they don't I usually call after them that I would be happy to move out of their way if they would just let me know they are there.
I had a pretty great run today, tiring but so good! It was cool and drizzly out for almost the entire run and I don't think it ever got above 65F. The trail was pretty much empty and seemed a bit strange with no one else there, just me and all the birds who were also very quiet. I did discover that an area I like to run has been taken over by the homeless community with tents and garbage everywhere along the service trail I run along the river and all along the bike trail on the other side of the river. Mostly I haven't had any problems with them but they throw garbage on the ground that is bad for Hobbes the Vizsla so I probably won't be running that way any longer. There is not an easy solution but it is sad to see it becoming a huge growing community.
Date........Miles.......Total
06/01......0.00........0.00 - Unplanned rest/life day
06/02......6.06........6.06
06/03......0.00........6.06
06/04......6.51......12.57
06/05......3.45......16.02 - + Agility class
06/06......4.27......20.29 - + Strength Training
06/07......0.00......20.29
06/08......5.45......25.74
06/09......5.80......31.54
06/10......0.00......31.54
06/11....13.24......44.78
My completed and upcoming Races - Let me know if you will be running too!
02/05/17 - Surf City Half Marathon
07/23/17 - San Francisco 1st Half Marathon
10/14/17 - AIM for the Cure Melanoma 5K Walk/Run
12/16/17 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon5 -
June Goal: Goal? We don't need no stinkin goal.....
6/1 nothin
6/2 4.00
6/3 4.00
6/4 4.00
6/5 rest
6/6 3.87
6/7 4.13
6/8 3.50
6/9 rest
6/10 6.12
6/11 3.50
Total 33.12
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
upcoming races:
Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)
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6/1 completed day 2 week 2 c25k
6/2 three hours karate lessons / practice
6/3 two hours karate lessons / practice
6/4 rest
6/5 completed day 3 week 2 c25k
6/6 karate lesson
6/7 Completed week 3 day 1 c25k(yay) & karate lesson
6/8 rest
6/9 Completed week 3 day 2 c25k & karate lesson
6/10 karate lesson
6/11 Completed week3 day 3 c25k
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VydorScope wrote: »It is in the 90's here right now. Was planing an easy run after my 15 miles in the upper 80's yesterday. Having a hard time convincing myself to go out. heh
Talking about this yesterdad I did a 15k - 9 miles under 29° C or 84° F and even though I took water before and after, when I got home after resting a little my blood pressure lowered I felt dizzy, I trowed out the water and amost fainted but I was fine after resting, could it be effect of dehydratation, an electrolite imbalance? the excercise wasn't too strenouss.
@Elise4270 @hanlonsk @WhatMeRunning runner problems, I feel you, I sometimes run outside of a sport center, it has a sidewalk to run around it with 5 entries to the facilities, so walkers are very often in the way, I never talk to them except to say thank you when they move aside, since the sidewalk is not too narrow I usually pass by the side, but when there are families obstructing all the road I have get down to the street, I don't like detouring to the street because there's a lot of traffic and something can happen and I'm extremelly grateful at the sensible people that moves when they see me.
I've never startled anybody passing them yet because is pretty common to see runners there, but bikers that pass me startle me. I'd be more glad if they announced themselves, though I'm always at the edge giving them room I just have to get used to it.
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I don’t think passing/being passed by people is exclusive to being out running:
Whilst walking on the pavement (sidewalk or whatever you folks call it), you meet a couple holding hands coming towards you. Their lives/relationship would be utterly destroyed if they stopped holding hands for just the couple of seconds it takes for one to walk behind the other, and so you are forced to step into the road/oncoming traffic.
Running on scree with a sheer drop next to me – a runner comes up behind and overtakes on the inside. Mentally he got short shrift for not warning me – being startled in that location could have been so bad on many levels.
Cyclists too close – yup, many a time. Mostly I like to run on gravel tracks that make enough noise that I can hear them coming. I keep over anyway so there should always be room to pass. On the other hand, when I cycle, I call out ‘coming past on your left’ and have had rude comments that I don’t use a bell. At one point having a bell was almost made into law, but I prefer the whole conversation/warning thing. I don’t tend to run with headphones or at least make sure I can hear my surroundings.
Dogs on extending leads. I effing hate the things. It’s like piano wire/ankle amputation devices. Dogs should be on short leads or well-trained and off-lead. A large dog on a harness on an extendable lead is NOT under control. Mini-rant. Dogs should have time off-lead for their own mental health.
Groups of walkers. We call them ‘ramblers’ in the UK. They travel with poles, large daypacks and gaiters on well-managed paths. I met a large group whilst out for a run on a narrow track. They had a good twenty feet to see me coming. And STILL did not move out of the way. I have sharp elbows.
People in groups who don’t move, take up the whole track, or worse, stand on both sides of the path leaving a six inch gap in between for me to pass. My elbows are wider than six inches.
a local running group. I have changed where I run on the day they go out running. They run in a pack, and seem incapable of giving space for little old me. It’s like I should be the one stepping into the nettles (Ow-ee). I keep my elbows sharp and hold the line……7 -
PinkamenaD8 wrote: »VydorScope wrote: »It is in the 90's here right now. Was planing an easy run after my 15 miles in the upper 80's yesterday. Having a hard time convincing myself to go out. heh
Talking about this yesterdad I did a 15k - 9 miles under 29° C or 84° F and even though I took water before and after, when I got home after resting a little my blood pressure lowered I felt dizzy, I trowed out the water and amost fainted but I was fine after resting, could it be effect of dehydratation, an electrolite imbalance? the excercise wasn't too strenouss.
Not sure, I am no doc. Did you only drink water or did you have a sports drink? Was this a new distance for you? Did you loose a lot of water weight? I can easily lose 10 pounds of water weight on a long summer run. I actually take an electrolyte capsule for every hour I run as recommended to me by a running coach. No idea if it helps or if it is a placebo though0 -
Chiming in on the passing conversation. I usually don't call out, unless there isn't a ton of passing space, or the person/group seems particularly oblivious. Then, I'll either say, 'on your left' or clear my throat loudly. I honestly don't know that there's a perfect solution, because I've been startled by people not calling out, but I've also been startled by the 'on your left' call, lol.
Yesterday though, there was a group of cyclists that really ticked me off, and I seriously regret not shouting something at them. I was on a lovely graveled, mixed-use path that runs along the river. There are walkers, people with dogs, adults and kids on bikes, runners, and even people fishing along the edge. And it can get decently crowded on a weekend. It also curves with the banks of the river, so you don't always have a long sight-line to see who or what is ahead. As I was running, I suddenly hear bicycle tires on the gravel, and two seconds later this single-file line of five cyclists on their road bikes go FLYING past me. This was also as I was going around a gentle curve, where you couldn't really tell if there might be more people just ahead. They did not call out or anything. This path, like I said, gets little kids running around on it, and people with leashed dogs, and if this speeding crew encountered something like that it could end very badly. I'm really quite irritated with myself for not shouting something after them, but it happened so quickly, and I was so startled, I was still struggling to get my thoughts together. Ugh.
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@khtsmith83bea Welcome to the group!
@dkabambe Welcome back, great to see you again!
@WhatMeRunning @Elise4270 Lol at the airhorn and jingle bells! I've tried calling out to people as I come up behind them, only to realize they're listening to music that's so loud that even I can hear it as I'm passing them. The ones that annoy me most though are the dog walkers that stand on the opposite side of the sidewalk to the dog when it's sniffing or getting down to business, thereby taking up the entire sidewalk with the leash. Maybe I should become a hurdler instead.
It's a cutback week for me this week (yay!), so today's run was a lot shorter than normal (yay!), giving me the chance to have a little lie-in until 5am (yay!). Following the 80/20 running guidelines, this run was part of the 20% high intensity runs (boo!), and with temps at 77 degrees and 83% humidity (boo!), that amounted to 5.6 sweaty miles at an average pace of 7.36 min/mi. By the end, when I was stretching out, I felt like I was standing in sweat-puddles.
01 - 11.39
02 - 21.12
05 - 13.44
06 - 10.73
07 - 13.43
08 - 11.43
09 - 21.15
12 - 5.66
Total: 108.34 / 225 miles
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6/1- REST
6/2- 5.2 Miles
6/3- 19
6/4- 4.3
6/5- 4.2
6/6- 3.2
6/7- 8.0
6/8- REST
6/9- 3.2
6/10- 9
6/11- REST
4/12- 4.0
Total: 60.1
Goal for June. Finish Marathon training well, taper well and run Grandma's well
Nominal mileage goal: 100
Today's notes: It was HUMID out this morning. Temp was only 56, but the humidity really thumped me good. Kept my breathing in check for the run at 6-in/6-out, and a little at 6-in/4-out, but my HR ended up at 156. I'm pretty sure that was a dehydration issue, as I woke up pretty dry yesterday, after having had some Dr. Pepper yesterday afternoon.... note to self, caffeine after noon means sleep that isn't as good.
Looks like another hot one today, and it's a "work day" in prep for summer school, so I'll be in my classroom "working" until close to noon... time to Hydrate!
Have a runderful day all!
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2017 Races Scheduled
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon (Full!)
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 50k
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot
Possible? 2017 Races
7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon2 -
6/1 - 6 miles
6/2 - 4 miles
6/3 - rest day
6/4 - 7 miles
6/5 - 3 miles
6/6 - rest day
6/7 - 4 miles (the Big Run 5K and warm up)
6/8 - unscheduled rest day
6/9 - 4 miles
6/10 - 3 miles
6/11 - 7 miles
6/12 - 3 miles of reccovery
41 of 70 miles
Humid and hot and tired legs, but it was okay.
I had to train Skip not to move to either side when someone calls they are passing on the left, just maintain where you are and they will go by. She thought they wanted her to move, no they just want you to know they are passing you. @girlinahat I think you pretty much hit every pet peeve I have. ha ha. I have not issues with doggie's not on leads at all, but honestly not everyone is a dog lover. Our rules for leashes is this, if I'm walking her around the hood she's on an extended leash, running 4' lead. At the greenway I usually take the extended leash but she stays on the right of me so she is off the path or directly in front of me. The minute I see or hear anyone she's pulled in to my side. She is never ever allowed to go across the entire path. Last year our greenways went from having a painted lanes for bikes and one for walker/runner to stay right pass left. Well I'm ready to take some black paint and cover up the lanes because people are confused. In general when I'm walking if someone coming at me is younger than me, they need to move out of my way on the path. Skip is taught to move out of the way of people older than her and I expect the same of others.
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Thank you everyone for the well wishes. I'm still feeling pretty knocked down, but it's maybe because I can't take it easy. I love when my jobs tell me I can't call in sick again because my replacements aren't as good as me, or so they tell me
I think walking the 5k this Friday night is seeing as my only option. I haven't done anything workout related since last Sunday. It's Shaun T week on Beachbody this week, and I am bummed I don't have the energy or breathing capabilities to participate. I was thinking of trying very slow elliptical tonight. If I have to do a breathing treatment when I get home from work, that will answer that question. I feel like @WhatMeRunning and @MNLittleFinn with rest day (week) overthinking things haha2 -
Date Miles today - Miles for June
6/1 10.5 miles - 10.5
6/2 7.5 miles - 18
6/3 14 miles - 32
6/4 REST DAY
6/5 8 miles - 40
6/6 10 miles - 50
6/7 5.4 miles - 55.4
6/8 10 miles - 65.4
6/9 4.15 miles - 69.55
6/10 14 miles - 83.55
6/11 REST DAY
6/12 10.5 miles - 94.05
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (unofficial) - 1/21 << 1:46:48 2 OA
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (rescheduled) - 2/18 << 1:41:04 1 in AG & 24 OA
Kentucky Derby Festival Marathon - 4/29 << 4:09:59
Upcoming races:
None so far
Madkin Mtn repeats again this morning with my buddy. 3x up and down for a total of 1833 ft elevation gain.
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