What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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"Fluffy".
No, it's fat. I can almost hear the slightly self-deprecating "tee hee" that goes along with "fluffy".
Not weight/health related, but often seen here: "XX years young". Bespeaks denial, self-deprecation, and a pathetic, near-apologetic desperation, when said of oneself; patronizing when used to describe others. (P.S., I'm 61; people my age say this. Yuck. Old is a good thing: Consider the actual alternative, which is not "young".)
Own who you are. Don't apologize, don't imply self-hatred by euphemizing. If you want to be different, change what you can influence or control.18 -
Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".3 -
"Fluffy".
No, it's fat. I can almost hear the slightly self-deprecating "tee hee" that goes along with "fluffy".
Not weight/health related, but often seen here: "XX years young". Bespeaks denial, self-deprecation, and a pathetic, near-apologetic desperation, when said of oneself; patronizing when used to describe others. (P.S., I'm 61; people my age say this. Yuck. Old is a good thing: Consider the actual alternative, which is not "young".)
Own who you are. Don't apologize, don't imply self-hatred by euphemizing. If you want to be different, change what you can influence or control.
Being the same age, until next month, I endorse this post.
I am also not your sweetie, darling, honey, baby etc.5 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".
I use lifestyle change and I'm three years in.
I was a sedentary closet eater who would cry if I thought about working out or limiting my intake. Now I love running and yoga (I lift too, but don't love it) and IIFYM. I'm a different, much happier person.
Lifestyle change is really the only way to describe it. I did it through small changes that turned into habits.
Not sure if I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing...11 -
SingRunTing wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".
I use lifestyle change and I'm three years in.
I was a sedentary closet eater who would cry if I thought about working out or limiting my intake. Now I love running and yoga (I lift too, but don't love it) and IIFYM. I'm a different, much happier person.
Lifestyle change is really the only way to describe it. I did it through small changes that turned into habits.
Not sure if I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing...
I'm guilty of this and generally dislike the term diet as it is used in mainstream. I follow where data leads me. In this problem I rely on the data, habits, and behavior of the successful and much of this from the National Weight Control Registry. Implementing small changes over time yields dramatic sustainable results.
To this point I focus on the long term and try to do the same with people new to this concept. Why implement a temporary change for a long term problem?1 -
SingRunTing wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".
I use lifestyle change and I'm three years in.
I was a sedentary closet eater who would cry if I thought about working out or limiting my intake. Now I love running and yoga (I lift too, but don't love it) and IIFYM. I'm a different, much happier person.
Lifestyle change is really the only way to describe it. I did it through small changes that turned into habits.
Not sure if I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing...
That was exactly my point (and why I said "many" not "all"). You built sustainable habits, you did not one day decide to uproot your whole life and run in the other direction. That's what new dieters who use this word often imagine they should be doing and one of the reasons they are using this term. It's just unfair.3 -
'Clean eating', because it implies that food/eating habits can be dirty. Which is bollocks.10
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"if you're hungry drink some water, sometimes people confuse thirst for hunger".
This actually happens to people? Pretty sure I can tell the damn difference between thirst and hunger.16 -
nosebag1212 wrote: »"if you're hungry drink some water, sometimes people confuse thirst for hunger".
This actually happens to people? Pretty sure I can tell the damn difference between thirst and hunger.
Yes. Some people just get a general sense of "I should put something in my stomach" rather than a specific hunger or thirst cue.5 -
I can relate to some of these things - but some seem awfully pedantic - journey, tummy etc just seem normal words to me.
Lots of adults use 'tummy' here, one doesnt have to be a 3 year old.
Maybe just a regional difference like some of the other things mentioned upthread - in which case, that will obviously happen since this is a international forum7 -
nosebag1212 wrote: »"if you're hungry drink some water, sometimes people confuse thirst for hunger".
This actually happens to people? Pretty sure I can tell the damn difference between thirst and hunger.
I can testify that yes I had this problem, but besides previous dieting attempts I never would drink water and I rarely would drink anything at all. I might have a coke with dinner, but just getting something to drink because I was thirsty? That was a foreign concept to me. Anecdotal story, but my mother claimed even as a baby I wouldn't finish a bottle. I don't know if many people have this problem, but I was definitely guilty of confusing hunger and thirst. But I realized eventually I confused a lot of things with hunger. Bored = hungry. Sad = hungry. Happy = hungry. Tired = hungry. Want food = hungry. I didn't really know what the flip being hungry was and I do think a lot of people are guilty of confusing hunger with other emotions.SingRunTing wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".
I use lifestyle change and I'm three years in.
I was a sedentary closet eater who would cry if I thought about working out or limiting my intake. Now I love running and yoga (I lift too, but don't love it) and IIFYM. I'm a different, much happier person.
Lifestyle change is really the only way to describe it. I did it through small changes that turned into habits.
Not sure if I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing...
Yeah, I don't go around throwing the word "lifestyle change" around, but I did have to change the way I lived my life. I was extremely sedentary. Like get maybe 2k steps on a good day sedentary. A typical day I got a thousand steps. I would sit at my desk all day at work and come home do a few things and then sit at home.
Had to stop that. I also had to change my dietary habits. I've always felt that diet implies this is something I'm doing for a certain period of time to lose weight and then it's done. If you use diet to simply mean eating less than you burn it applies, but the thing is even after this "diet" is over I'm still going to eat like this and live like this. Yes, I'll get to eat a few hundred calories more, but I'm not suddenly going to go back to my old way of eating.4 -
BY THE SAME TOKEN: There is no "conspiracy" to hide inexpensive or free treatments for cancer, diabetes, etc from "the people." IF THERE WAS A CHEAP EFFECTIVE CANCER TREATMENT? EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT BECAUSE IT WORKED. "They" are not "hiding it from you so they can sell their expensive 'pHARMa' to you. SERIOUSLY.
Some of my fellow nurses believe this bilge! Makes me insane.
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Shocking or surprising the body in some way.
People who insist you have to change up your diet and/or exercise or it'll stop working because the body gets used to it. I'm still trying to get my head around that one.
Sure, the diet does need looking at now and again as the calorie goal should drop as you lose weight but the thought of continued loss being because the "metabolism is supprised" annoys me a lot.8 -
emmaling142 wrote: »Shocking or surprising the body in some way.
People who insist you have to change up your diet and/or exercise or it'll stop working because the body gets used to it. I'm still trying to get my head around that one.
Sure, the diet does need looking at now and again as the calorie goal should drop as you lose weight but the thought of continued loss being because the "metabolism is supprised" annoys me a lot.
Oh yeah the whole 'you have to shock your body' BS. Because clearly your body will stop burning calories if you keep doing the same things
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amusedmonkey wrote: »SingRunTing wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Lifestyle change. WOE. Anyone using words that indicate they have an aversion to the word "diet" which literally means "the food you eat" and isn't actually supposed to have any temporal indication about the amount you eat.
I found this is mostly used by new or relatively new dieters, because they are desperately trying to distance themselves from the act of dieting due to having been burned by it before. I don't use "lifestyle change" because it doesn't apply to me, but I can understand where this is coming from. What makes me sad is when their chosen "lifestyle change" is very obviously not sustainable and they are doing the same things they've always attempted and then they "fell off the wagon", but they believe they will be able to willpower their way through it this time.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop torturing themselves. Attempting a 180 and expecting it to work is not realistic, and using this term places an unfair burden of expectation on them. Little tweaks here and there are more realistic. They may or may not end up accumulating into a lifestyle "change" depending where you start and where you end, but it's too early to use that term. Interestingly, many successful dieters don't have that knee jerk reaction to the word "diet", and many people who truly did manage to eventually do a 180 successfully do not use the word "lifestyle change".
I use lifestyle change and I'm three years in.
I was a sedentary closet eater who would cry if I thought about working out or limiting my intake. Now I love running and yoga (I lift too, but don't love it) and IIFYM. I'm a different, much happier person.
Lifestyle change is really the only way to describe it. I did it through small changes that turned into habits.
Not sure if I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing...
That was exactly my point (and why I said "many" not "all"). You built sustainable habits, you did not one day decide to uproot your whole life and run in the other direction. That's what new dieters who use this word often imagine they should be doing and one of the reasons they are using this term. It's just unfair.
Truue, but even if not sudden, it IS still a lifestyle change.
But your post did make me realize that one of the reasons I've never objected to it is that I've always interpreted the 'life' part of it as duration - which isn't how I suppose most people mean it! And (at least for me) style is something minor. Like, 'oh, these heels and that dress will be wonderfully classy together, and I'll put my Chucks in my bag and switch out for a funky vibe if my feet get sore.' So, put together - minor changes that you can stick to for the rest of your life.
Like I said - probably not how most people mean it! XD1 -
"Fluffy".
No, it's fat. I can almost hear the slightly self-deprecating "tee hee" that goes along with "fluffy".
Not weight/health related, but often seen here: "XX years young". Bespeaks denial, self-deprecation, and a pathetic, near-apologetic desperation, when said of oneself; patronizing when used to describe others. (P.S., I'm 61; people my age say this. Yuck. Old is a good thing: Consider the actual alternative, which is not "young".)
Own who you are. Don't apologize, don't imply self-hatred by euphemizing. If you want to be different, change what you can influence or control.
I like the expression "Better older than colder"
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The word "fattening" applied to any specific food. No, ice cream is not "fattening." Overconsumption of calories is.12
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"Gluten friendly". It's restaurant code for "gluten free enough if you don't have any medical reason to be gluten free, but not gluten free enough if you have celiac disease or similar so don't sue us if you have a reaction". Either have gluten free options that are actually gluten free or admit that you're not willing to put in the effort.5
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Another peevish, elitist pedantry moment: "Palette" instead of "palate".
People, people, people: You put paint on a palette. You use a palate to appreciate flavors. Do not use your palette to choose foods, unless you improbably need to match your colorful veggies to your paintings.
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Sugar is addicting/addicted to sugar I totally agree with, But also I am addicted to food. I find it so cringeworthy insulting to people that really are addicted to addictive agents.quiksylver296 wrote: »I'm sure it's been said before, but I've been triggered and need a safe space.
"Toxins"
"Dairy is only for baby cows"
"Sugar is addicting"4 -
dutchandkiwi wrote: »
Sugar is addicting/addicted to sugar I totally agree with, But also I am addicted to food. I find it so cringeworthy insulting to people that really are addicted to addictive agents.quiksylver296 wrote: »I'm sure it's been said before, but I've been triggered and need a safe space.
"Toxins"
"Dairy is only for baby cows"
"Sugar is addicting"
If you were truly addicted to sugar, you would chow down on straight-up sugar packets, which I don't think many of us would do (though, I'm sure some would simply because they enjoy straight-up sugar). I think we're more "addicted" to foods that taste good, and not much tastes better than the combination of sugar and fat, especially when you add chocolate.4 -
dutchandkiwi wrote: »
Sugar is addicting/addicted to sugar I totally agree with, But also I am addicted to food. I find it so cringeworthy insulting to people that really are addicted to addictive agents.quiksylver296 wrote: »I'm sure it's been said before, but I've been triggered and need a safe space.
"Toxins"
"Dairy is only for baby cows"
"Sugar is addicting"
If you were truly addicted to sugar, you would chow down on straight-up sugar packets, which I don't think many of us would do (though, I'm sure some would simply because they enjoy straight-up sugar). I think we're more "addicted" to foods that taste good, and not much tastes better than the combination of sugar and fat, especially when you add chocolate.
My favorite are the sugar cubes. There is something about the mouthfeel as they melt. Still don't consider it an addition.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »dutchandkiwi wrote: »
Sugar is addicting/addicted to sugar I totally agree with, But also I am addicted to food. I find it so cringeworthy insulting to people that really are addicted to addictive agents.quiksylver296 wrote: »I'm sure it's been said before, but I've been triggered and need a safe space.
"Toxins"
"Dairy is only for baby cows"
"Sugar is addicting"
If you were truly addicted to sugar, you would chow down on straight-up sugar packets, which I don't think many of us would do (though, I'm sure some would simply because they enjoy straight-up sugar). I think we're more "addicted" to foods that taste good, and not much tastes better than the combination of sugar and fat, especially when you add chocolate.
My favorite are the sugar cubes. There is something about the mouthfeel as they melt. Still don't consider it an addition.
OMG, long ago when we were kids and restaurants used to put those bowls of sugar cubes on the table, my brother would grab as many as he could and eat them, before my parents could confiscate the bowl.2 -
Hi All,
What bothers me is when people tell me, you are so LUCKY to have lost so much weight... Luck doesn't come into it. After being practically immobile for decades due to the excruciating agony of fibromyalgia, I got on some medication which helped with pain relief and I got off my (rather large) backside and started to MOVE after years of inactivity. I thought this would kill me at first, but gradually I was able to do more. I combined this with eating less, cooking practically everything myself (peeling a carrot was agony some years ago), logging everything on MFP, and so far I am doing pretty well. I am proud to announce that I did a 75-km bike ride yesterday with practically no effort at all (OK so it was a flat one yesterday) but a few years ago I couldn't walk to the shop at the end of my street without being in pain.
Luck? I don't think so...
"Good luck" to fellow MFP-ers (joke)
When I hiked the Appalachian Trail I had a lot of people say that to me, "You're so lucky to be able to do this." No, it wasn't luck. I quit my job, put my stuff in storage, trained hard, used up my savings and went for a long hike. Not luck, just choices. Others would say, "I'd love to do that." And reality is, no you wouldn't. If it were something you wanted to do, you'd go do it. Instead of arguing, I'd just smile and keep walking.8 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »When I hiked the Appalachian Trail I had a lot of people say that to me, "You're so lucky to be able to do this." No, it wasn't luck. I quit my job, put my stuff in storage, trained hard, used up my savings and went for a long hike. Not luck, just choices. Others would say, "I'd love to do that." And reality is, no you wouldn't. If it were something you wanted to do, you'd go do it. Instead of arguing, I'd just smile and keep walking.
Got to disagree. There are a LOT of things I want to do...I'd LOVE to do...but I have responsibilities. I have family. I have bills and I don't have much money in the bank. I don't have the money or the ability to just drop everything and go off somewhere...not if I didn't want to starve during my adventure and then be homeless and jobless, bankrupt, possibly arrested and probably divorced, afterwards. Sure...with enough advance planning I could save and avoid that, but it took my husband and I 8 years to save enough for two weeks in Europe. So, not too likely to have any grand adventures again before I'm old and gray.
Pretty sure when people say, "You're lucky to be able to do this." they're talking about that.
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jessiferrrb wrote: »not MFP specific, but it totally irks me when people post about "females"
ayup. as if 'woman' was a dirty word or something.
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I dont get why - if people posted about women would you say females was a dirty word???
Is men a dirty word because people post about males??
Just alternative words, that's all.6 -
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newheavensearth wrote: »I'm tired of the plethora of "food is evil and the government is trying to kill you with it" documentaries. Almost every week another one of my relatives is calling me about how they found "The Solution" after watching another one of these movies. Usually involving raw veganism or juicing. These things usually present a bunch of hype and an oversimplified solution to a complex problem.
Speaking as a former government employee. The government is not competent enough to pull off simple plans, let alone these massive conspiracies.
Speaking as someone who has worked on research projects that try to match data across government databases? SO MUCH THIS. SO MUCH. There is no overarching database that allows the government to put together everything on you. It took us TWO YEARS to even match two databases collected by the same agency well enough to run any stats on it.
BY THE SAME TOKEN: There is no "conspiracy" to hide inexpensive or free treatments for cancer, diabetes, etc from "the people." IF THERE WAS A CHEAP EFFECTIVE CANCER TREATMENT? EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT BECAUSE IT WORKED. "They" are not "hiding it from you so they can sell their expensive 'pHARMa' to you. SERIOUSLY.
That's just what someone involved in the conspiracy would say! (yes that is sarcasm, before someone decides I'm wearing my tin foil hat too tight.)9
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