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Some believe hunger is a fearful terrible thing to be avoided at all costs.
I kinda like it. A little twinge in my tummy makes me feel pleased with myself and I enjoy my food more when I do eat it.
I think people who whine and cry about hunger are babies and I would like to tie them to a chair for a few hours to prove they won't die from skipping a meal.
I don't confront the hungry whiners with these judgments, but I certainly think them. Baggage from going hungry and learning to suck it up as a kid and then seeing kids I had just seen eat a big lunch moaning about how they "need" a snack.
Feeling I have to clear my plate when I eat food (because you might have to wait long for the next) has worked against me in maintaining my weight but I still understand a losing frame of mind better than a gaining one.
(I am 10kg overweight and this lack of patience with the attitude of other losers is a problem I always face, although as I say, I don't let on in real life)12 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Ground Beef Enchilada & Tostada With Beef & Cheese, 1 meal 845
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Chips, 12 Chips 140
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Salsa, 8 oz 43
Chipotle - Margarita, 44 fl. oz. 770
1,798 calorie dinner - look how awesome I am, I can absorb this and still be in good shape! You are welcome for the inspiration, if you are overweight and trying to eat at a deficit I'm sure this is what you joined MFP for...
Perhaps that was all they ate that day. Perhaps they had been "banking" calories all week because they knew they were going to eat that meal. Perhaps their normal daily intake includes 15 serves of fruit and vegies.
That was my dinner last night...3 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Ground Beef Enchilada & Tostada With Beef & Cheese, 1 meal 845
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Chips, 12 Chips 140
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Salsa, 8 oz 43
Chipotle - Margarita, 44 fl. oz. 770
1,798 calorie dinner - look how awesome I am, I can absorb this and still be in good shape! You are welcome for the inspiration, if you are overweight and trying to eat at a deficit I'm sure this is what you joined MFP for...
Perhaps that was all they ate that day. Perhaps they had been "banking" calories all week because they knew they were going to eat that meal. Perhaps their normal daily intake includes 15 serves of fruit and vegies.
That was my dinner last night...
Winning.3 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Ground Beef Enchilada & Tostada With Beef & Cheese, 1 meal 845
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Chips, 12 Chips 140
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Salsa, 8 oz 43
Chipotle - Margarita, 44 fl. oz. 770
1,798 calorie dinner - look how awesome I am, I can absorb this and still be in good shape! You are welcome for the inspiration, if you are overweight and trying to eat at a deficit I'm sure this is what you joined MFP for...
Perhaps that was all they ate that day. Perhaps they had been "banking" calories all week because they knew they were going to eat that meal. Perhaps their normal daily intake includes 15 serves of fruit and vegies.
That was my dinner last night...
Doing it right.4 -
Hemlock, lol. Certainly natural, but kind of ignores the "healthy" part. Keep it relevant.
Foxglove (aka digitalis) helps regulate heart rate on folks with congenital heart failure and can be life saving. But the wrong dosage is deadly. Belladonna is a sedative, but can result in a permanent nap when taken in large doses.
Both have health purposes, both can be poison when not taken in the correct dosage. Both likely fit your definition of natural as well as being "relevant."6 -
SiegfriedXXL wrote: »I am sick of stereotypes you have be a toothpick in order to not considered to be not fat. I know I have to take off over 100 lbs because I gained back some I am on this site to track my diet and find encouragement. But some the profile pictures of the people on here are totally not reality for everyone. I am 5'5" I have a medium frame and not I am not looking for an opinion on my ideal weight. I know feel good at a particular weight below that I don't feel healthy. Another thing why does everyone who loses weight feel that they have post pictures of themselves half naked. Please I stop making me toss my breakfast when I open this app. If you want to go to dating site and do that its totally fine. But not everyone wants to pollute their eyes with your body parts.....just saying.
Pffft, when I achieve the weight and fitness goals I'm aiming for, you'd be lucky if I ever put a shirt on again. I've no time to cater to the puritans of this world. We get one body and when I've finished hammering mine into shape, you can bet it'll be on "display." You're free to avert your eyes if you wish.
Totally this.
And what does "dating" have to do with half dressed photos? Am I trying to date everytime I wear a bikini? No, because I've been with the same dude for 5 years. And I definitely don't need to impress him. People are allowed to be proud, confident, and show off their hard work. That dude/lady can clutch their pearls elsewhere, because this site encourages Progress Photos. And IRL, you're damn right I'm showing off my "progress" everywhere I go!10 -
Very unpopular: You have to exercise. It is not optional. Nobody gets a pass.
You may choose to ignore this obligation, but nature is very unkind to sedentary people.
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If I ever have abs, even for 5 minutes, I'll be in a crop top the entire time..........31
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VintageFeline wrote: »If I ever have abs, even for 5 minutes, I'll be in a crop top the entire time..........
I want this on a tshirt... Preferrably on a crop top.
Shoot, I'll just wear a dang bikini top... YOLO and all of that. :laugh:11 -
CipherZero wrote: »Very unpopular: You have to exercise. It is not optional. Nobody gets a pass.
You may choose to ignore this obligation, but nature is very unkind to sedentary people.
But...
The opposite of sedentary is not exercise.9 -
I'm glad that DDT is banned as it has polluted rivers and killed fish and contaminated everything and killed everything in its path.
The melodramatic speech doesn't help your point. If it "killed everything in it's path" many more things would be dead. If that's a quote from the chemistry text, you need a better book. Also easy for us to say when malaria and most deadly mosquito-born diseases are not found in the US, Canada and Europe. If there were better pesticides, these diseases would not have the prevalence they did and Zika would not have become a thing. And quinine would not be six weeks of hell in order to prevent malaria.
There are two sides to most things. Yes, it damage eagle eggs and made the shells too fragile to hold the hatchlings until birth. But hunting depleted the eagle population just as much, if not more.
Again, easy for people of the first world to say when we don't deal with the diseases other parts of the world do. Though hemorrhagic Ebola appeared in Spain last year by someone who didn't travel to an infected region. They still don't know how he got it. That strain is tick born, by the way.11 -
The_Enginerd wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »And queue the experts... Lol
I haven't heard this much woo dropped in such a short amount of time in one place since HIMYM was on the air.
LOVE that show!!!2 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
What is funny haha about this is I had a person on my Friend list tell me something similar but basically said please stop talking about all the food you are making/eating...
my response was ah no...I am losing weight the way I want and if you don't like it you know where the door is...
I was that person losing weight making and eating donuts...fries...pies...nachos etc.
it's not just fit folks that enjoy food and talking about ti.
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Ground Beef Enchilada & Tostada With Beef & Cheese, 1 meal 845
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Chips, 12 Chips 140
Cozumel Mexican Restaurant - Extra Salsa, 8 oz 43
Chipotle - Margarita, 44 fl. oz. 770
1,798 calorie dinner - look how awesome I am, I can absorb this and still be in good shape! You are welcome for the inspiration, if you are overweight and trying to eat at a deficit I'm sure this is what you joined MFP for...
Are you trying to prove this would bother people?
This is stuff I can't have. I'm genuinely happy you can.
I don't get why you think everyone is so small-minded that they can't be happy for other people having something they can't. Is that really a concept you can't grasp?10 -
welp, here's one.
i find it irritating that almost any question around 'issues' on the fitness side of this community draws a rote 'see a doctor' response. i get the general idea behind it, but imo the bar has been set way too low. it annoys me because it just seems to be unnecessarily draconian and doctrinaire - there's nothing wrong with giving a person who asks a set of options or possibilities and letting them do a little self-help as part of the process of working out whatever the issue is.4 -
jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
Intwresting the dude in thr picture is fat9 -
Oh.. wow. Where do I start?
um..
WLS is a waste of time and money; risky
I'm fine with artificial sweeteners
I don't care about sodium
There are no bad or good fats (except hydrogenated)
I don't believe in cheat days
I don't care to exercise
Cholesterol doesn't matter
Doctors on TV are not real doctors
I think eating something awful to be "healthy" is ridiculous (kale)
Starvation mode doesn't exist
Weight loss pills are a scam
Friends for motivation doesn't work. You need to be determined and accountable.
*Hands out popcorn*7 -
Packerjohn wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
Intwresting the dude in thr picture is fat
He is a potato farmer from Idaho, of course he is happy!5 -
I can't get enough of this thread:P
- I think a lot of the female bodies that are lauded as 'fit' are actually very distasteful - especially in the UK, the Middleton sisters (ugh) are held up as the pinnacle of health/beauty, when in fact one of them is a skinny waif and the other is completely devoid of curves and quite mannishly built.
- And on the other end of the spectrum, the big *kitten* phenomenon is horrid. I don't want a gigantic behind, it looks false and ridiculous.
- I think there will be a proven link one day with aspartame and gall stones... of course, people are free to drink litres of diet soda but I think they'll pay for it later down the line.
- Not enough emphasis is put on "moderation in everything, everything in moderation."
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kristikitter wrote: »I can't get enough of this thread:P
- I think a lot of the female bodies that are lauded as 'fit' are actually very distasteful - especially in the UK, the Middleton sisters (ugh) are held up as the pinnacle of health/beauty, when in fact one of them is a skinny waif and the other is completely devoid of curves and quite mannishly built.
- And on the other end of the spectrum, the big *kitten* phenomenon is horrid. I don't want a gigantic behind, it looks false and ridiculous.
- I think there will be a proven link one day with aspartame and gall stones... of course, people are free to drink litres of diet soda but I think they'll pay for it later down the line.
- Not enough emphasis is put on "moderation in everything, everything in moderation."
Lol bless your heart.9 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »kristikitter wrote: »I can't get enough of this thread:P
- I think a lot of the female bodies that are lauded as 'fit' are actually very distasteful - especially in the UK, the Middleton sisters (ugh) are held up as the pinnacle of health/beauty, when in fact one of them is a skinny waif and the other is completely devoid of curves and quite mannishly built.
- And on the other end of the spectrum, the big *kitten* phenomenon is horrid. I don't want a gigantic behind, it looks false and ridiculous.
- I think there will be a proven link one day with aspartame and gall stones... of course, people are free to drink litres of diet soda but I think they'll pay for it later down the line.
- Not enough emphasis is put on "moderation in everything, everything in moderation."
Lol bless your heart.
Which "bless your heart" was that?
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