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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Just to step out of the "big food" debate, which I don't really GAF about because I'm a grown up and can read labels and make choices for myself.
But who is blaming people for becoming overweight or obese? I don't see that. I see empathy and trying to empower people by making them realise that the self-righteous opinions are coming from those who want to label anything that comes wrapped in plastic or in a tub/box from a window as suddenly being devoid of any nutritional value.
THAT'S being judgemental. That's giving people with a mountain to climb Kilimanjaro instead of Ben Nevis.
I don't understand why those who are encouraging and sharing of their own successes and struggles and the ones being pious.6 -
You can argue that McDonald's (only my example) is trying to sell people what they want.... But I think we've reached a point where they are not so concerned about selling people what they want as much as they are trying to sell what McDonald's has to offer...
But the way marketers these days push anything is just appalling... I see a VW commercial the other day that told a story of an old woman who recently lost her husband who wanted to travel across country, so the family hops in their VW and sets off talking about how they wish the grandfather was there... Tears and all...
What in the world does someone losing their patriarch have to do with VW... I was just disgusted by the marketing and psychological warfare I felt waged against me for the sake of selling a freaking VW... They must think I'm pretty stupid to try and sell me a VW in a manner that has nothing to do with their vehicles...
I know that was a bit of topic but I had to get that out...
Back to McDonald's, now I'm not saying don't ever eat McDonald's again... But don't make McDonald's a habit, because they want you there everyday.5 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »Now I'm wondering if any roasted brussels sprouts contain gluten and, if so... why?
Some people might add bread crumbs.1 -
jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat6 -
Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »You can argue that McDonald's (only my example) is trying to sell people what they want.... But I think we've reached a point where they are not so concerned about selling people what they want as much as they are trying to sell what McDonald's has to offer...
But the way marketers these days push anything is just appalling... I see a VW commercial the other day that told a story of an old woman who recently lost her husband who wanted to travel across country, so the family hops in their VW and sets off talking about how they wish the grandfather was there... Tears and all...
What in the world does someone losing their patriarch have to do with VW... I was just disgusted by the marketing and psychological warfare I felt waged against me for the sake of selling a freaking VW... They must think I'm pretty stupid to try and sell me a VW in a manner that has nothing to do with their vehicles...
I know that was a bit of topic but I had to get that out...
Back to McDonald's, now I'm not saying don't ever eat McDonald's again... But don't make McDonald's a habit, because they want you there everyday.
See this is the bit I don't get. Don't eat at McDonald's every day because you'll probably have a hard time meeting your nutritional needs, sure. Don't make it a habit because that's what they want? Every seller wants you to buy their food. My local farm stand would prefer I get all my fruit and veggies there all the time (and often has samples available to show how delicious it is, which often leads me to buy more than i intended or need). Should I not make a habit of buying there because that's what they want?8 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »The McD's on the Hawaiian offers spam for breakfast along with eggs and rice. They mostly definitely have their consumers in mind. And it was good!
The ones down South serve Grits for breakfast... So yummy.4 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.13 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »The McD's on the Hawaiian offers spam for breakfast along with eggs and rice. They mostly definitely have their consumers in mind. And it was good!
The ones down South serve Grits for breakfast... So yummy.
Where is this? I'm in NC, so maybe not south enough?0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »The McD's on the Hawaiian offers spam for breakfast along with eggs and rice. They mostly definitely have their consumers in mind. And it was good!
The ones down South serve Grits for breakfast... So yummy.
Where is this? I'm in NC, so maybe not south enough?
When I lived in GA.1 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.8 -
Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »You can argue that McDonald's (only my example) is trying to sell people what they want.... But I think we've reached a point where they are not so concerned about selling people what they want as much as they are trying to sell what McDonald's has to offer...
But the way marketers these days push anything is just appalling... I see a VW commercial the other day that told a story of an old woman who recently lost her husband who wanted to travel across country, so the family hops in their VW and sets off talking about how they wish the grandfather was there... Tears and all...
What in the world does someone losing their patriarch have to do with VW... I was just disgusted by the marketing and psychological warfare I felt waged against me for the sake of selling a freaking VW... They must think I'm pretty stupid to try and sell me a VW in a manner that has nothing to do with their vehicles...
I know that was a bit of topic but I had to get that out...
Back to McDonald's, now I'm not saying don't ever eat McDonald's again... But don't make McDonald's a habit, because they want you there everyday.
Most retailers of any kind want you passing through the doors as often as possible.
When we had a local farmstand, I was there just about every day to get the freshest produce possible.
Is wanting frequent custom somehow supposed to be seen as a bad thing if you're a retailer? It seems to me that's rather the point of having a business.9 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.9 -
mommarnurse wrote: »I think I really like cake and well-made burgers.
I thought this thread was about unpopular opinions?
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.5 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
I've always held the unpopular opinion that we talk about food in general way too much on this site. Lots of times someone mentions something that I then can't get out of my head, like a music ear worm does. I've had to learn to accept that people talk about food and figure out how to tune it out. It's just like real life up in here.
I quit drinking alcohol a few years ago and went through the same emotional thing with it.
Somewhere along the line I figured out that not everything is about me. 20 -
cmriverside wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
I've always held the unpopular opinion that we talk about food in general way too much on this site. Lots of times someone mentions something that I then can't get out of my head, like a music ear worm does. I've had to learn to accept that people talk about food and figure out how to tune it out. It's just like real life up in here.
I quit drinking alcohol a few years ago and went through the same emotional thing with it.
Somewhere along the line I figured out that not everything is about me.
I completely agree with this2 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »So don't give in this lunch or dinner to the marketer's and food engineers at fast food chains, their very profits are bet against your ability to free that super hero inside of you! Think about it, why do they have to make their frys so salty?
And remember that if you really know better and give in to McDonald's and the food industry anyway... Then csardiver is right... Otherwise be ready to fight for your health because they are against you, don't believe they are not...
Now it's up to you to eat wise and exercise!
So if I go to McD's or Wendy's or Jack or any other food establishment and get a salad with plain grilled chicken (no fries, no burger, etc), have I then given in to the 'establishment' and lost my soul in the process?!?!?
Imagine if you ordered a cheeseburger and fries!!!
mmm fries
When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...
ETA: we can air fry them if you want
That is the glorious part of MFP - half the people are scratching and clawing to eat at a deficit and the other half are gushing over all of the greasy, high calorie - high fat food they eat
The really fun part is that looking at the respective food diaries, the so-called "greasy high cal - high fat" folks don't eat that differently in practice in a lot of cases from the "oh so clean" . . . and sometimes even eat more nutritiously. I think the recently (semi-)converted can sometimes be the biggest proselytizers. No universals, of course.
I don't think the "oh so clean" people really give a rat's about it it - this site has a lot of "oh so fat" people who probably can't fit 510 calories & 24g of fat from an order of large fries from McDonald's into a deficit oriented diet, so I've always found MFP an odd place to brag about eating these types of foods.
I'm not parsing this.
The truly fat people in many cases have higher TDEEs, so can fit some fries (why would it be large? mostly I see people saying you can eat fast food and giving examples where they skip the fries or have small or have it as a rare indulgence meal).
The "oh so clean" people seem to go on and on about how they don't eat processed foods when the diaries from "clean eaters" I've seen look similar to what I eat (which isn't clean) or often more processed stuff (which is fine, processed stuff can fit in a healthful diet). Very, very often the people going on about eating clean are, as the prior poster said, brand new to cooking at all (after eating way more fast food or frozen stuff than many of us ever did, and having much more fondness for packaged sweets than many of us ever did) and they think that eating McD's only a couple of times a week is "clean" or some such and that everyone not self-proclaimed "clean" must not care about nutrition at all and eating a horrible diet, which is annoying.
Not everyone is on a diet, not everyone eating at a deficit is "scratching and clawing" to get there, and most people who say "I still eat some so called junk food or fast food" will explain it's more rarely or in smaller amounts than before. I love Indian food and decided I didn't want to skip everything I loved most to construct a deficit appropriate meal (this was when I was on a deficit) and so I decided to go only once a month, usually on a long run or long bike day. Nice, but saying I still go have curry and naan doesn't mean I can eat that all the time or wasn't keeping a deficit.
If you are a 6 ft 50 year old man who is 100lbs overweight and trying to lose 1-1.5 lbs per week , running a 500-750 calorie deficit per day and eating 2,000 calories a day after eating 3,500 calories a day +for years, that is scratching and clawing for that person. That is a huge difference and a big lifestyle adjustment. I'm trying to understand why that person (or anyone else, to be honest) would want to read about fit people enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site.
If you are 5ft 3 44-year-old woman who is 124 lbs overweight, trying to lose 1 lbs per week, running a 500-calorie daily deficit, and eating 1710 calories a day after eating who knows how many for years, it's heartening to know that you can enjoy the foods you love, while in a deficit, without 'cheating' or going off the rails. Sure, you may not be able to enjoy them in the portions you used to, but you can still have them on occasion and continue to lose weight.
Not everyone enjoying their fries and donuts on a fitness site is fit, yet. But a lot of us are getting there.28 -
I don't get the argument here. No one is blaming people for being fat. Stuff happens. But at the same time, no one on earth actually thinks fast good is "healthy" or "low cal" when they go and order a bacon cheeseburger with fries. They're well aware of what they're doing. So? That's not the fault of Fast Food tricking anyone. They have made countless changes over the years from including apples and juice in Kid's Meals instead of fries and soda... to putting calories right on the food menu... to having $1 options (smaller portions, more choices, less money) etc etc. Most in response to customer demand.
They're serving what people want (or at least settle for). And people choose to buy it. No one is a victim there.
*Christ, the holier-than-thous would cry if they saw my diary today. Cereal for breakfast, diet Pepsi for lunch, different cereal for dinner, then huge bowl of ice cream with milk for snack. I guess I'm a victim of the Dairy industry? I don't get it.*13 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »People at the farmer's market don't care about your health either. All they care about is making a living. So don't give into this and stop handing money to those who want to take it.
B...but the lady at the farmer's market was just so sweet and nice! She MUST care!
although she became less than nice when I asked her to give me some apples for free.
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jseams1234 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »Okaaaay, let's try this...
True or False...
The world is round...
In fact, it's an oblate spheroid fat in the middle due to centripetal or centrifugal force
That kind of describes me at the moment....
You made me spit coffee on my monitor! 2
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