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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.
- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
Is it in a choux bun? So sort of a giant profiterole/missing its top religieuses?
Exactly! You never cease to impress!!
I did have to ask Google how to spell the latter. But yeah, I'm a foodie with a penchant for baking. Mind you, never made choux pastry, or bake a lot these days for that matter. Because I just don't have the calories to eat whole cake!
Seriously???? Pate'a Choux is one of the easiest things to make: 1 c. water, 1 stick butter, heat until the water boils and butter is melted. Dump 1 cup flour and a pinch of salt all at once and stir until it forms a ball. Take off heat for about 5 minutes and then add 4 eggs, one at a time, stirring after each addition. Voila'.
I never said it was hard, just that I'd yet to bother doing it.
Sorry, didn't mean to disparage. It is my go-to when I need a fast dessert so I make it frequently either for profiteroles or some kind of filled dessert (custard usually but I will do pudding or whipped cream if it is all I have).
Tends to especially much impress people who don't bake, too. There are a few things like that - filled choux pastry, scratch cheesecake, meringues, macaroons etc. - that mysteriously impress all out of proportion to how hard they are to make.
Great to take to potlucks . . . or whatever you call them where you live.
We're asked to "bring a plate". (it the expectation that said plate/bowl/platter contains food to share
I would so show up with an exquisite decorated plate and pretend to be surprised it was supposed to include food...7 -
I'll toss in my opinions which seem to be unpopular in some venues.
You don't need to go all-out for exercise. Moderate exercise and even (*gasp*) gardening or some housework gives you benefits (just be careful if logging them for extra calories to eat!!).
Obesity, and weight loss, are multifaceted issues and usually combine emotional, knowledge, and foodie challenges. Focusing on just one facet will most likely lead to failure.
sure benefits but none have to do with being fit or losing weight.
I say this as a gardener who keeps a clean house...I did all this while I was fat, stayed fat and got fatter.
I did it while I lost then regained
I continue to do it now that I have totally lost.
At no time did the garden give me any benefit except joy and food...my clean house was/is whatever but in no way does it help with weight loss.
and there goes another unpopular thing
You don't need to exercise to lose weight....
and people that log house cleaning and or "regular" activity are lying to themselves.12 -
VintageFeline wrote: »accidentalpancake wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
That gets us into the UK's version of "salad", I suppose.
Let's talk about the ambiguity of the word "pudding" across the pond...
Pudding is interchangeable with dessert in the UK. It predates all those fancy French things becoming de rigueur. I'm cool with the fancy French things though.
Huh. I realize Ireland != UK, but when my wife and I were in Ireland ~8 years ago, we got pudding at breakfast. They brought us sausage. I don't remember which was which, but there was a "black" and a "red" version. IIRC, one of them was called "blood pudding," while the other was not. Or maybe it was just the particular spices in each. I remember liking the "not blood" version, while didn't care much for the "blood" version - and this was, I think, before knowing it was made with blood. So not just a psychological thing.
Just a difference between Ireland and UK, or is "blood pudding" simply like how we call your egg mayo egg "salad?"0 -
I like it when people are honest with me and give me thoughtful, rational advice. I don't think it mean, or snarky, or negative. Having just perused some threads on the general weight loss help forum, I think this might actually be an unpopular opinion.11
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VintageFeline wrote: »accidentalpancake wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
That gets us into the UK's version of "salad", I suppose.
Let's talk about the ambiguity of the word "pudding" across the pond...
Pudding is interchangeable with dessert in the UK. It predates all those fancy French things becoming de rigueur. I'm cool with the fancy French things though.
Huh. I realize Ireland != UK, but when my wife and I were in Ireland ~8 years ago, we got pudding at breakfast. They brought us sausage. I don't remember which was which, but there was a "black" and a "red" version. IIRC, one of them was called "blood pudding," while the other was not. Or maybe it was just the particular spices in each. I remember liking the "not blood" version, while didn't care much for the "blood" version - and this was, I think, before knowing it was made with blood. So not just a psychological thing.
Just a difference between Ireland and UK, or is "blood pudding" simply like how we call your egg mayo egg "salad?"
Black pudding is blood sausage. Urgh. No idea why it is called pudding though! Another version is white sausage (no blood, lots of fat)1 -
Heather4448 wrote: »I like it when people are honest with me and give me thoughtful, rational advice. I don't think it mean, or snarky, or negative. Having just perused some threads on the general weight loss help forum, I think this might actually be an unpopular opinion.
Yes, Heather it is an unpopular opinion. Whenever I see the "why is everyone so mean" vibe starting in a thread, I hear an alternative dialogue something like, "why is everyone telling me the myth/ woo/ derp I posted is wrong?" or "why is everyone not confirming my preconceived notion and presenting facts?" Sad but true.
Early on in my weight loss and fitness, I posted some questions and questionable myths and trendy woo. I had people correct me and present facts. It was fairly easy to sort out who actually knew what they were talking about and who didn't. I learned a tremendous amount by considering what was said and doing additional research on ideas presented.
I think you have the right approach!
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I find that usually people get different responses based on how it comes up. Someone who says: "my nutritionist said don't eat after 7 but I can't get to dinner that early" or "this is my plan, what do you think" and includes "no food after 7" will usually get non snarky explanations (as do most IF threads -- I always see people saying IF works great for many, but it's because it makes it easier to control calories).
On the other hand, someone who jumps in a thread (or starts a thread) to tell others what to do and insists that you should not eat after 7 gets (deservedly, IMO) a different tone in the average response.9 -
VintageFeline wrote: »accidentalpancake wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
That gets us into the UK's version of "salad", I suppose.
Let's talk about the ambiguity of the word "pudding" across the pond...
Pudding is interchangeable with dessert in the UK. It predates all those fancy French things becoming de rigueur. I'm cool with the fancy French things though.
Huh. I realize Ireland != UK, but when my wife and I were in Ireland ~8 years ago, we got pudding at breakfast. They brought us sausage. I don't remember which was which, but there was a "black" and a "red" version. IIRC, one of them was called "blood pudding," while the other was not. Or maybe it was just the particular spices in each. I remember liking the "not blood" version, while didn't care much for the "blood" version - and this was, I think, before knowing it was made with blood. So not just a psychological thing.
Just a difference between Ireland and UK, or is "blood pudding" simply like how we call your egg mayo egg "salad?"
Ah yes, well you see, Brits are contrary and we use words with many contexts. One version is indeed sweet after dinner delicious things.
But pudding also refers black pudding, white pudding (I'll admit I don't know what's in the white one but it's delicious battered, which you will find in fish and chip shops in Scotland), but I don't know what red pudding is, that's a new one on me.
Then there's the suet pastry steamed pie version of pudding like steak and ale or steak and kidney. But all of the savoury versions are preceded by some indicator of their savouryness, like steak and kidney pudding, black pudding etc.
Whereas the sweet variety is used on its own to cover the broad range of items that dessert. So in a restaurant, it would be, "are you going to have pudding?" when trying to work out if you want to give yourself away as a complete pig. *tingue in cheek emoji*2 -
To me, with no context, the word 'pudding' conjures up the thickened creamy dairy dessert. I've read enough UK-originating books to know about the 'dessert in general, too' definition, though it tossed me for a loop when I was about ten and read Asterix and Cleopatra in translation. (There's a line when she's delivered a cake and tells her servant she'll have it for 'pudding' that night that left me wondering if she meant to puree it and boil it in milk or something...)
However, I've seen plenty of my mom's cookbooks refer to kugels (sweet or savory gratins made with vegetables and/or noodles, sometimes with fruit or cheese) as puddings. Potato pudding, noodle pudding, etc. These are usually side dishes—although I'm still trying to figure out the difference between an apple kugel and a fruit-on-the-bottom apple cake.2 -
I don't know what a kugel is but fruit on the bottom cake if turned out to show the fruit would be upside down cake here in the UK, most commonly made with tinned pineapple rings. Dunno if it's the same thing though!1
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estherdragonbat wrote: »To me, with no context, the word 'pudding' conjures up the thickened creamy dairy dessert. I've read enough UK-originating books to know about the 'dessert in general, too' definition, though it tossed me for a loop when I was about ten and read Asterix and Cleopatra in translation. (There's a line when she's delivered a cake and tells her servant she'll have it for 'pudding' that night that left me wondering if she meant to puree it and boil it in milk or something...)
However, I've seen plenty of my mom's cookbooks refer to kugels (sweet or savory gratins made with vegetables and/or noodles, sometimes with fruit or cheese) as puddings. Potato pudding, noodle pudding, etc. These are usually side dishes—although I'm still trying to figure out the difference between an apple kugel and a fruit-on-the-bottom apple cake.
I do get funny looks when I talk about our family's standard holiday dinner which usually includes corn pudding and sometimes suet pudding. Corn pudding is a kind of gratin with corn and lots of eggs, cream and butter. Suet pudding is similar to plum pudding but it uses only dried fruits like raisins and dates and is steamed in a mold. Think of it as a dense, moist cake without a ton of sugar (sweetness is added with the hard sauce). I have a grocery with a really good butcher and I can get the really nice, pure white suet from around the kidneys from him.1 -
We have a similar thing in Scotland, the fruit dumpling cake, called a clooty dumpling.
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Thanks, VF. Now I want Pineapple Upside Down Cake.
My mom used to make a cake of deliciousness for me when I visited.
I lost the recipe and she died. I am verklempt.
Well, not completely. But I wish I had that recipe. It had coconut and pineapple and vanilla cake and whipped frosting and...maybe I should try to wing it...3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »But all of the savoury versions are preceded by some indicator of their savouryness, like steak and kidney pudding, black pudding etc.
This is analogous to how "salad" has one meaning in the US, and then salad preceded by other words (like egg, chicken) convey something else, not the same as just salad.3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »I don't know what a kugel is but fruit on the bottom cake if turned out to show the fruit would be upside down cake here in the UK, most commonly made with tinned pineapple rings. Dunno if it's the same thing though!
Here's one recipe. The apples are mixed into the batter, for this one, though: https://gourmetkoshercooking.com/2012/09/cinnamon-apple-kugel/0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »accidentalpancake wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
That gets us into the UK's version of "salad", I suppose.
Let's talk about the ambiguity of the word "pudding" across the pond...
Pudding is interchangeable with dessert in the UK. It predates all those fancy French things becoming de rigueur. I'm cool with the fancy French things though.
Huh. I realize Ireland != UK, but when my wife and I were in Ireland ~8 years ago, we got pudding at breakfast. They brought us sausage. I don't remember which was which, but there was a "black" and a "red" version. IIRC, one of them was called "blood pudding," while the other was not. Or maybe it was just the particular spices in each. I remember liking the "not blood" version, while didn't care much for the "blood" version - and this was, I think, before knowing it was made with blood. So not just a psychological thing.
Just a difference between Ireland and UK, or is "blood pudding" simply like how we call your egg mayo egg "salad?"
This whole line of discussion makes me think of "head cheese", which - as an ovo-lacto veg - I am relieved and grateful to say is not even cheese at all.2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »accidentalpancake wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
...and this is why humans will never be able to communicate whatsoever.
Bismarks are those chocolate covered donuts with pudding inside. It's my favorite.- Water fountain
- Sub
- Coke
I can't even cite regional differences. I've lived in PA, FL, CA, WA. Not sure when or where I came up with these beliefs. It's my feels.
Lol! The chef in me is having a cringe moment. That is not pudding in a Bismark. It is Creme' Patisserie. It's my foodie OCD kicking in I know...
That gets us into the UK's version of "salad", I suppose.
Let's talk about the ambiguity of the word "pudding" across the pond...
Pudding is interchangeable with dessert in the UK. It predates all those fancy French things becoming de rigueur. I'm cool with the fancy French things though.
Huh. I realize Ireland != UK, but when my wife and I were in Ireland ~8 years ago, we got pudding at breakfast. They brought us sausage. I don't remember which was which, but there was a "black" and a "red" version. IIRC, one of them was called "blood pudding," while the other was not. Or maybe it was just the particular spices in each. I remember liking the "not blood" version, while didn't care much for the "blood" version - and this was, I think, before knowing it was made with blood. So not just a psychological thing.
Just a difference between Ireland and UK, or is "blood pudding" simply like how we call your egg mayo egg "salad?"
This whole line of discussion makes me think of "head cheese", which - as an ovo-lacto veg - I am relieved and grateful to say is not even cheese at all.
My second favorite not what it sounds like is Welsh rabbit (which granted is usually "Welsh rarebit" these days, but not in some older cook books I have).
What's my favorite? Sweetbread!2 -
My unpopular opinion: most people who got fat as children/teens will never maintain a healthy weight, and the best we can hope for is yo yo dieting. The other option is accepting being fat for good. The existence of a few exceptions to this rule doesn't change my opinion. Statistically, it's an obvious fact.17
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curiouskate wrote: »My unpopular opinion: most people who got fat as children/teens will never maintain a healthy weight, and the best we can hope for is yo yo dieting. The other option is accepting being fat for good. The existence of a few exceptions to this rule doesn't change my opinion. Statistically, it's an obvious fact.
Yup, that's a pretty unpopular opinion. I know a lot of us here who plan on proving you wrong.
I don't "hope" for yo-yo dieting. MFP has taught me how to control my weight properly. I know what to do to prevent the yo-yo cycle from happening.
I didn't have that knowledge in the past. That's the big difference.14
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