What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?

tomteboda wrote: »

For what it's worth, my PhD dissertation was partly on the mechanics of carbohydrate metabolism. I also poured through the literature, on more than one occasion as it's been a long interest of mine over my 20 years of laboratory research, and I have also been unable to find any real evidence that any diet abrogates or advantages cico. I am of the professional opinion that forcing yourself into ketosis long term is playing biological roulette, and hold deep disagreement with the scientists who advocate for it (and there aren't many who don't also have major self - interest in the diet promotion).

I'm also not convinced by the scientists who claim long term very low calorie diets are sustainable, and actually believe several of the labs doing this work engage in coercive and cult-like control of the graduate students, having met these people and say through their presentations. Further, they present a severe moral and ethical hazard which makes trusting their spurious claims much more difficult.

I realize here I'm just another person on the net, but I feel very strongly this is something not confronted enough because of the way in which professional scientists interact.

susanmc31 wrote: »

tomteboda wrote: »

For what it's worth, my PhD dissertation was partly on the mechanics of carbohydrate metabolism. I also poured through the literature, on more than one occasion as it's been a long interest of mine over my 20 years of laboratory research, and I have also been unable to find any real evidence that any diet abrogates or advantages cico. I am of the professional opinion that forcing yourself into ketosis long term is playing biological roulette, and hold deep disagreement with the scientists who advocate for it (and there aren't many who don't also have major self - interest in the diet promotion).

I'm also not convinced by the scientists who claim long term very low calorie diets are sustainable, and actually believe several of the labs doing this work engage in coercive and cult-like control of the graduate students, having met these people and say through their presentations. Further, they present a severe moral and ethical hazard which makes trusting their spurious claims much more difficult.

I realize here I'm just another person on the net, but I feel very strongly this is something not confronted enough because of the way in which professional scientists interact.

As to the bolded, I have a friend who is deep into this product called Keto//OS which is a drink that allegedly puts you into ketosis everyday without eating a keto diet. I've tried looking up studies to see if exogenous ketones are safe and so far there doesn't seem to be anything (I will admit, I don't always know how to dissect studies). The thought of ingesting something that the body expels when you are sick (diabetic ketoacidosis comes to mind) just seems potentially hazardous. I do know that keto diets are used in cases of patients with severe epilepsy that is resistant to medication. I guess, what I am trying to say, is more research needs to be done.

SezxyStef wrote: »

susanmc31 wrote: »

tomteboda wrote: »

For what it's worth, my PhD dissertation was partly on the mechanics of carbohydrate metabolism. I also poured through the literature, on more than one occasion as it's been a long interest of mine over my 20 years of laboratory research, and I have also been unable to find any real evidence that any diet abrogates or advantages cico. I am of the professional opinion that forcing yourself into ketosis long term is playing biological roulette, and hold deep disagreement with the scientists who advocate for it (and there aren't many who don't also have major self - interest in the diet promotion).

I'm also not convinced by the scientists who claim long term very low calorie diets are sustainable, and actually believe several of the labs doing this work engage in coercive and cult-like control of the graduate students, having met these people and say through their presentations. Further, they present a severe moral and ethical hazard which makes trusting their spurious claims much more difficult.

I realize here I'm just another person on the net, but I feel very strongly this is something not confronted enough because of the way in which professional scientists interact.

As to the bolded, I have a friend who is deep into this product called Keto//OS which is a drink that allegedly puts you into ketosis everyday without eating a keto diet. I've tried looking up studies to see if exogenous ketones are safe and so far there doesn't seem to be anything (I will admit, I don't always know how to dissect studies). The thought of ingesting something that the body expels when you are sick (diabetic ketoacidosis comes to mind) just seems potentially hazardous. I do know that keto diets are used in cases of patients with severe epilepsy that is resistant to medication. I guess, what I am trying to say, is more research needs to be done.

not that I am a fan of Keto diet but diabetic ketoacidosis is different

savannahbanks7315 wrote: »

I don't believe exercise helps longevity.
But please argue with me!

WayTooHonest wrote: »

826_Midazaslam wrote: »

Blaming your metabolism is such a cop-out.

Nothing drives me crazier than someone telling me they can't lose ANY weight because their metabolism is too slow. It's simple, CICO. Yes there are cellular differences in how your body metabolizes things, but at the end of the day, if you burn 2000 calories and only put in 1500, you're going to lose weight. Your metabolism is not some magical thing that defies the laws of thermodynamics.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you obviously haven't hit menopause yet.

Andy10725 wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

Andy10725 wrote: »

I don't believe in diet version of drinks. It's just as bad if not more harmful. Putting that on food diary to attempt to keep cal count low is just fooling yourself. Same goes for sugar substitutes. Just man up and consume the real thing, it's not the end of the world.

How is it more harmful? Why can't I spend those calories on something else? Or do you not believe that they're actually 0 calorie and that the manufacturers are lying and getting away with it?

Exactly the reason for my respond above. I believe the stuff you eat matters to the organ. Sure it's 0 cal, but if u have too much of it, what would happen to ur organs? We all enjoy a little junk here n there from time to time. But when u r consuming something bad and not being aware or alert of it, that'd be troublesome.