October 2017 Running Challenge

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  • weat0043
    weat0043 Posts: 172 Member
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    Oct. 26 - 1.7km on the elliptical
    MTD - 86km/100km
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
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    BruinsGal_91 wrote: »
    girlinahat wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    fitoverfortymom wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    fitoverfortymom wrote: »
    I find out once and for all today if Samsung will replace my watch. If not, I gave hubby a list of my top 3 Garmin choices in a variety of price points since my birthday is on Tuesday.

    I am kind of thinking that we should be hoping for Samsung to NOT repair it here... :)

    Part of me is, yes. I would never recommend a Samsung device of any sort after my experience with them, but I also wasn't looking to spend another $300++++ on a new watch. We are due to get new phones soon, also, so I now I don't feel locked in to getting a Samsung for the optimal compatibility of also having the Samsung watch.

    It's a shame a company cares so little about customer service. My family as a looooot of Samsung devices.

    Sorry to hear about your experience. I have not yet had to deal with Garmin's customer service even though I have had their GPSs in my cars for over a decade. So I guess that speaks for itself.

    But yeah, these toys are NOT cheap. :disappointed:

    take up running they said. It’s a cheap sport, you can just throw on so shoes and go they said....

    Ah yes, I think we've all fallen for that one. My husband is convinced my running gear and accessories are more expensive than his golf gear.

    Just this year I’ve purchased:
    -5 pair sneakers (all over $130 each)
    -a Nathan waist band for holding phone/keys ($30)
    -a Nathan hand held water bottle ($20)
    -a Nathan Hydration vest ($80)
    -a roo pouch ($30)
    -6 pair belaga socks ($12 each)
    -3 tech tanks, 2 tech running shorts ($40)
    -Bluetooth headphones that have since broke ($27)

    Yeah, not cheap!
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    October Running Totals (miles)
    10/1 – rest day
    10/2 – 5.07 easy
    10/3 – 5.05 easy
    10/4 – rest day
    10/5 – 6.01 easy
    10/6 – rest day
    10/7 – 10.09 paced run
    10/8 – 7.20 easy to MP
    10/9 – rest day
    10/10 – 6.09 mostly easy
    10/11 – 6.30 group run
    10/12 – 6.12 easy
    10/13 – rest day
    10/14 – 11.02 paced run
    10/15 – 6.51 rainy run
    10/16 – rest day
    10/17 – 6.02 easy plus intervals
    10/18 – 6.39 group run
    10/19 – 5.87 warmup, XC practice
    10/20 – rest day
    10/21 – 11.54 paced run
    10/22 – 7.19 easy plus a stride
    10/23 – rest day
    10/24 – 7.43 warmup, speed work, cool down
    10/25 – 7.00 easy
    10/26 – 6.54 warmup, speed work

    October running total to date – 127.44

    Nominal challenge goal: 100 miles

    Real goals: Get healthy enough to run 5 days a week. Avoid re-injury. Build base.

    Today's notes – It's feeling like real running weather now, 50º F (10º C) for this evening's running. That felt cooler than I expected, so I ended up running in a jacket that I thought I'd only wear till I started running. Ran the 2 mile warmup with some other guys, had a nice conversation and kept the pace slower than I would solo.

    This evening my increasing capacity intersected with the easing of hard assignments as the club gears up for Sunday's race. The assignment was 1-3 x 10 minutes at T w/2 minutes recovery, plus 6 x 100m strides. The sound track was, only people who aren't racing on Sunday should do the 3 x 10 minutes; the rest of us do 1x or 2x.

    So I went out and ran my 2 x 10 minutes at T, starting and ending on the track but doing the bulk of the running around campus with some small ups and downs. Took and extra 15 seconds or so on the second recovery so I could start the strides on the line at the track. Then I lost count of strides, and made sure I ran at least 6; looked at Strava afterward, and there were 8 short peaks on the pace chart. Oh, well. 8 strides won't kill me.

    The speed workout proper came in about 4.5 miles. I thought about total miles for the week, and decided to skip the traditional 2 mile cool down run. I walked a couple laps of the track instead, because it's good to move gently after running hard.

    I'm feeling really good right now. I still have to pay attention to not overworking the recovering ankle, but I think I'll be able to race properly on Sunday. Now the biggest decision is how far to run on Saturday, since I have no structured long run to pace that day.

    2017 races:
    January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
    January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
    January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
    January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
    February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
    February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
    February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
    March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
    March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
    April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
    April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
    May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 40:04
    May 27, 2017 Canandaigua Classic Half Marathon (Canandaigua, NY) finished in 1:33:06
    June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 5:44.90, PR for mile
    June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) finished in 19:32
    July 4, 2017 Firecracker Four Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 25:42
    July 15, 2017 Shoreline Half Marathon [1:40 pacer] (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:39:05
    July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY) finished in 19:28
    August 9, 2017 Pound the Ground 10K (Mendon, NY) finished in 41:26
    August 12, 2017 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:47
    August 25, 2017 USATF Masters Mile (Hap Crim Michigan Mile, Flint, MI) DNS - injury
    September 3, 2017 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) DNS - injury
    September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    October 29, 2017 Pete Glavin XC Race #4 6K (Brighton, NY)
    November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)

    2018 races:
    January 6, 2018 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
    April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
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    BruinsGal_91 wrote: »
    skippygirlsmom wrote: »
    BruinsGal_91 wrote: »
    girlinahat wrote: »

    take up running they said. It’s a cheap sport, you can just throw on so shoes and go they said....

    Ah yes, I think we've all fallen for that one. My husband is convinced my running gear and accessories are more expensive than his golf gear.

    My friend offered to pick up our race packets at Fleet Feet I was like OMG thank you that store costs me at least $200 every time I walk though the door. I have to admit though I'm a bit disappointed that I can't go. :disappointed:

    My nearest Fleet Feet is about 90 miles away, which is probably a good thing. I'm picking up a race packet tonight, but luckily for my wallet, it's at the local pizzeria rather than a running store.

    I can relate - My nearest Running Store is in GP - 2.25 hrs one way = long day trip
    Next store is in Edmonton 4.5 hrs one way + Hotel = expensive even before you get through the front door of a store.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
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    Second Run with the Garmin 935.

    Know a bit more about it. I have it set in "GPS" mode instead of "GPS+GLONASS" mode. The docs say that the GPS+GLONASS is faster, and more accurate in "challenging environments" but drains the battery more. I have never had any issues with GPS any of the places I run, it typically is very accurate and I can not outrun it. So left it in GPS mode (which is the default). This time I waited for the little green circle to say I had a lock before starting. It took a good 15, maybe 20 seconds.

    I started it and RunKeeper (phone only) within a few seconds of each other. This is pretty interesting...

    Garmin 935:
    Distance: 7.10 mi
    Time: 1:02:41
    Pace: 8:50
    Calories: 843
    Elev Gain: 292 ft

    RunKeeper
    Distance: 7.06
    Time: 1:02:41
    Pace: 8:53
    Calories: 986
    Elev Gain: 510

    Strava
    (via sync of Gramin data)
    Distance: 7.10 mi
    Time: 1:02:41
    Pace: 8:50
    Calories: 1,131
    Elev Gain: 292 ft


    So the fact that Gramin and Strava exactly match in most stats is not a surprise (it is sync'd data), but the wild swing in calories is humorous. So many people rely on that data and there is a 25% swing in that data in those three readings along. *sigh* The Garmin is probably closer to reality.

    ANYWAYS

    The Time, Distance, and Pace measurements between the what the phone's GPS recorded and the Garmin are close enough to call the same (there was not a lot of precision of my starting and stopping) but the elevation difference is pretty interesting. So Garmin has an option to correct elevation based on the professional surveys. When I do that the Garmin gives 624 feet, which is even more than RunKeeper (which just records what it gets from the phone's GPS). Hmmm.

    I have run that route many times with small variations and it always in the 500-700 foot range (there are several large hills that I have to skip when time is tight like I did today)

    So I did another check. According to my weather station, my elevation is 1120.1 feet. According to my Garmin watch, my elevation is 1219. That is over 100 feet of difference when you consider I am sitting in a chair and the weather station is on a post at least 15 feet up.

    Hmmmm.

    Not sure what to make of that. Need run more I guess :smiley:

    Time, Pace, Distance, and HR all agree with the numbers I saw on my AppleWatch so I am happy with it just not sure about that altimeter yet.

    Overall very happy with it so far, and if I have to flip the switch to correct elevation, I am fine with that. At least it is an option.

    Oh yea, the silly thermometer in it is as useless as everyone in the reviews says it is. Off by more than 30 degrees F :smiley: The common belief is that it is being thrown off by the heat from your skin is probably correct.
  • rusgolden
    rusgolden Posts: 1,337 Member
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    @7lenny7 -- good points, thanks for clarifying. As you said, probably not necessary in this area, but still looking like I might go with the mittens.

    I wish I were more adventurous in trying some runs on some of the great trails around here. Have fun w/ your daughter... Rock Chalk Jayhawk! :smile:
  • Runningmischka
    Runningmischka Posts: 386 Member
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    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Second Run with the Garmin 935.

    Hmmmm.
    Not sure what to make of that. Need run more I guess :smiley:

    Time, Pace, Distance, and HR all agree with the numbers I saw on my AppleWatch so I am happy with it just not sure about that altimeter yet.

    Yes, need more data! Sorry, the statistician in my head kept screaming "sample size of at least 30, please", so I had to let her win and make this comment. :wink:
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
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    Runningmischka wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Second Run with the Garmin 935.

    Hmmmm.
    Not sure what to make of that. Need run more I guess :smiley:

    Time, Pace, Distance, and HR all agree with the numbers I saw on my AppleWatch so I am happy with it just not sure about that altimeter yet.

    Yes, need more data! Sorry, the statistician in my head kept screaming "sample size of at least 30, please", so I had to let her win and make this comment. :wink:

    One of my degrees is in stats, so I know where you are coming from :smiley:
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
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    7lenny7 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    My latest purchase for winter running when it gets REALLY cold, golf mittens:

    https://www.amazon.com/ProActive-Sports-Winter-Pull-Up/dp/B0049RPD2U

    I'll wear these over my running gloves. I should be able to regulate the temperature of my hands pretty well in these. I love that my thumbs won't have to be all by themselves, getting lonely.

    What running gloves are you using under them? I assume you have to get the large to fit them over gloves?

    @PastorVincent I have three pair of gloves I use of different weight, but the ones I use most of the time are the cheap, thin, touch-screen compatible gloves that Costco sells. Great gloves for running, and most of the time they are warm enough by themselves but some days I need something warmer.

    One thing I don't like about wearing mittens, as @rusgolden mentioned about regular gloves, is that they get sweaty and gross. With these, it looks like I can flip them open from time to time as needed for ventilation.

    The reviews indicate that they're sized big. I normally wear XL or even XXL gloves and I'm trying the L golf mitts. These will only be used for running so I'm not too concerned about size since I run with my hand in a loose fist anyway.

    The two KEY features about these mitts which appeal to me is first, that there is no separate place for your thumb. You're basically putting bags over your hands. This keeps your thumb warmer.

    Second, there's a slit across the finger area to allow you to put your hand through the slit and push the mitts up your arm while you take your shot in golf, as shown in the second photo. In my case it could be using my phone, tying my shoes, or just cooling off my hands. Temperature regulation is key in the winter and this allows that. that slit also allows me to use them to keep my wrists warm. With my long arms that's another area which can get to cold when the temperature plummets.

    I face a problem with my gloves is that when I start they are not really warm enough, but as I run and sweat my hands get hot - but I know if I take them off I will never get them back on as they are soaked inside. Wet hands in sub-freezing temps is not fun. With this thingy of yours, I might be able to get away with much lighter gloves. Definitely something to consider.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
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    October Goal met: got thru the Aim At Melanoma run without losing it.....

    10/1 rest
    10/2 4.20
    10/3 4.10
    10/4 5.30
    10/5 rest
    10/6 4.40
    10/7 6.10
    10/8
    10/9
    10/11
    10/12
    10/13
    10/14 3.1
    10/15 6.50
    10/16 snorkel 6 hours
    10/17 rest
    10/18 9.75
    10/19 4.43
    10/20 4.33
    10/21 rest
    10/22 5.06
    10/23 5.75
    10/24 rest
    10/25 5.81
    10/26 3.50

    Total: 72.33



    Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:

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    Upcoming races:
    AIM at Melanoma 5k 10/14/17
  • NikolaosKey
    NikolaosKey Posts: 410 Member
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    10/1: 16.35k -Easy long run-
    10/2: 10.3k -Easy+11 strides-
    10/5: 10.6k -Moderate Tempo-
    10/6: 7.6k -Easy run-
    10/7: 15k -Intervals-
    10/8: 14.4k -Easy run-
    10/12: 10.6k -Easy run-
    10/13: 10.6k -Easy+13ST-
    10/14: 2.2k -shake off b4 race-
    10/15: 13.2 -3.2k w/u and 10k Trail Race-
    10/18: 11.1k -Easy-
    10/20: 10.6k -Trail-
    10/21: 13.9k -Easy+strides-
    10/22: 14.6k -Trail, hills-
    10/24: 10k -Easy-
    10/25:14.4k -w/u, Intervals, c/d-
    10/26: 10.2k -Easy-



    Goal: 195.7k/180k

    Stay hydrated!

    Upcoming races:
    9/16: 4th Kavala Night City Run 10k: 49:47 (new PR)
    9/24: Xiropotamos Trail 2017 11k: 1:17:59
    10/1: Voreia Sirris Challenge 23k: Not registered
    10/15: Nestos Trail VFUT 10k: 49:51
    11/26: 4th Democritus Half Marathon
    12/10: Valdirkeia Run10k
  • anitamistry1
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    seanevan10 wrote: »
    I have been so massively busy at work and home that I haven't commented and just now got caught up. I didn't listen and pay attention to all of you and should have not done the race on Sat. I did however shave 2 minutes off my last 5k time and got a cool finisher medal. But now, I'm out until I see the dr tomorrow. Hopefully, just a little strength issue and some PT will help. Not sure if it's hamstring or piriformis issue. Either way, it hurts to walk or sit. Running actually doesn't hurt at all. Weird huh? Anyway, here's the medal. Pretty excited about my time.4kh78ow822kc.jpg

    That medal is sooo cool. Hope it's nothing serious and you get sorted at the Dr's.

  • ddmom0811
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    Wow - 161 messages in just 24 hours! I had look thru quickly to see if some big emergency occurred. Nope, just keeping junk and bits warm, Forerunner issues and lots of talk. No time for me this year with my new prep (AP Computer Science Principles).

    I teach computer programming - have for 19 years at both a high school and college. Before that I was a programmer. I only teach half the day at the HS and do a bunch of database queries, reports and whatever needs getting done the rest of the day.

    I think I will do the Holiday Streak again. Yeah, I know last year I said I wouldn't do it again, but it's kind of fun -- even if my legs feel like bricks after my long bike rides. That being said, if the weather is hot in Orlando in December like it has been the last two years, then no - I'm not doing it. By the time I can run on Sat/Sun after cycling it was already 85 or so.
    The rules:
    https://www.runnersworld.com/rwrunstreak
    The article I enjoy reading every year from a guy who did it:
    https://www.runnersworld.com/newbie-chronicles/a-season-to-streak


    Rest day for me. Make that Active Recovery/Build Muscles Day.
    Have to chaperone homecoming dance Sat night. :neutral:

    10/1 - 33 miles cycling; 1 mile run
    10/2 - rest day
    10/3 - 5.6 miles - birthday run!
    10/4 - strength training
    10/5 - 3.5 cut short by rain.
    10/6 - strength training
    10/7 - 44 miles cycling
    10/8 - 45 miles cycling
    10/9 - 4 miles
    10/10 - strength training
    10/11 - 4 miles
    10/12 - Strength training - tabatas - push ups/pull ups/sit ups and wall squats
    10/13 - rest day
    10/14 - 9 miles on bike - rained out… AIM at Melanoma 5K!
    10/15 - 48 miles cycling
    10/16 - 3 miles
    10/17 - rest day/surgery
    10/18 - 4.3 miles
    10/19 - 4.1 sluggish miles
    10/20 - strength training
    10/21 - 43 miles cycling
    10/22 - 66 miles cycling — 1 short of 100 for the weekend!
    10/23 - 3.7 miles
    10/24 - 4 miles + strength training/tabatas
    10/25 - 4.1 miles
    10/26 - 5 miles
    10/27 - let’s make it a rest day!


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    AIM at Melanoma 5k -- virtual participant - 10/14
    NYC Central Park - Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K - 11/4
    I/ITSEC 5K in Orlando - 11/29
    Daytona Beach HM - 2/4/19
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
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    50 minutes on the elliptical this am. Good solid workout and calf feels fine.

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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
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    So did lots of reading on the Garmin 935 altimeter, and the short version, it uses barometric pressure for measuring altitude and is not hugely reliable. So the recommendation is to turn on the corrections and go with that. So that is what I will do.

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