Coronavirus prep
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »The Governor of Pennsylvania has ordered all "non-life-sustaining" business to close as of 8 pm. No warning. Fines if you continue to operate. Suddenly the entire state is unemployed. It's not quite a shelter in place order, but not far from it. Still no cases in my county.
I work for a company located in a county in Florida considering essentially the same thing.
Here's more on Pennsylvania https://lancasteronline.com/news/gov-wolf-s-order-to-shut-down-non-life-sustaining/article_18fc32e4-6aaa-11ea-9a08-173a8658f284.html
Gov. Wolf's order to shut down non-life sustaining businesses met with criticism, concern
...“First, as Governor Wolf should have learned through the National Governor’s Association, the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) has asked America’s governors to designate ALL ‘manufacturing facilities, supply chains and their employees as “essential infrastructure” and “essential businesses” to assure clear, consistent and more uniformly aligned guidance to businesses as our nation responds to the COVID19 pandemic,’ said a statement from the association's president and CEO David N. Taylor.0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Italy is being told that their "peak" is around 10 days from now. Nearly 500 per day dying and 6000 new cases yesterday with stressed to the max hospitals already. I had hoped the number would plateau, but it unfortunately hasn't. The only good news for them is everyone is taking it deadly serious. I wish I could say the same here.
@Snowflake -- I'm in constant contact with others in Italy (indoor rowing buddies of mine). I'm praying for you all, even though I know it's going to be the same here. Please pray for us in a few weeks as well. We will need it.
Saw this today - if we agree on the timeline, the US was trending closely with Italy (it has since grown at a larger pace.) The good news is, the US has five times the population (60 million vs 320 million), so the magnitude is much less. (Not sure why California was dropped in with a different timeline)
This, to me, just means we will have 6X the deaths. So, they have 500 a day, we are going to have 3000 a day. I fear it's unavoidable at this stage. I've told all my siblings in Ohio (all at risk) that I love them. One, likely the most at risk, has a son that is a security guard at a local hospital. He has it at their house in isolation. Feeling very sad today. I'm sorry.
The fact that young people are partying on beaches is disgusting. Florida will be awful.
I know things seem bleak and surreal right now, but we have to try to focus on the positive as much as possible. Maintaining good mental health is important right now.
The TX coast has also seen a multitude of young people (and not so young people) partying on the beaches. I fear that the kind of selfish and short-sighted behavior is going to be detrimental to our containment efforts.
There are many stories going around right now about neighbors pulling together to help each other.
Good news story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-maryland-boy-carepackages-seniors-feed-students
(ETA: Reddit has a dedicated sub for staying up to date with covid-19. Filtering for posts with the "Good News" flair gives some great, positive stories: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/?f=flair_name:"Good News")4 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Italy is being told that their "peak" is around 10 days from now. Nearly 500 per day dying and 6000 new cases yesterday with stressed to the max hospitals already. I had hoped the number would plateau, but it unfortunately hasn't. The only good news for them is everyone is taking it deadly serious. I wish I could say the same here.
@Snowflake -- I'm in constant contact with others in Italy (indoor rowing buddies of mine). I'm praying for you all, even though I know it's going to be the same here. Please pray for us in a few weeks as well. We will need it.
Saw this today - if we agree on the timeline, the US was trending closely with Italy (it has since grown at a larger pace.) The good news is, the US has five times the population (60 million vs 320 million), so the magnitude is much less. (Not sure why California was dropped in with a different timeline)
This, to me, just means we will have 6X the deaths. So, they have 500 a day, we are going to have 3000 a day. I fear it's unavoidable at this stage. I've told all my siblings in Ohio (all at risk) that I love them. One, likely the most at risk, has a son that is a security guard at a local hospital. He has it at their house in isolation. Feeling very sad today. I'm sorry.
The fact that young people are partying on beaches is disgusting. Florida will be awful.
This means we will potentially have far less than 5x's the number of cases and deaths as Italy. We are a country with 320 million with the same *total number of infections* as a country of 60 million, that is great (if that trend holds up.)
I live in Ohio as well, and I feel like our Governor really jumped up and lead well ahead of the rest of the country. For example, Louisiana and Ohio each had their first case at the same time. Ohio has 88 cases and no deaths. Louisiana has 347 cases and 8 deaths. Ohio's population is 11.6 million vs Louisiana's 4.6 million, so we should have over twice as many cases and deaths. Social distancing is huge and the regions who did promptly and thoroughly are going to suffer far less.6 -
Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.8 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Italy is being told that their "peak" is around 10 days from now. Nearly 500 per day dying and 6000 new cases yesterday with stressed to the max hospitals already. I had hoped the number would plateau, but it unfortunately hasn't. The only good news for them is everyone is taking it deadly serious. I wish I could say the same here.
@Snowflake -- I'm in constant contact with others in Italy (indoor rowing buddies of mine). I'm praying for you all, even though I know it's going to be the same here. Please pray for us in a few weeks as well. We will need it.
Saw this today - if we agree on the timeline, the US was trending closely with Italy (it has since grown at a larger pace.) The good news is, the US has five times the population (60 million vs 320 million), so the magnitude is much less. (Not sure why California was dropped in with a different timeline)
This, to me, just means we will have 6X the deaths. So, they have 500 a day, we are going to have 3000 a day. I fear it's unavoidable at this stage. I've told all my siblings in Ohio (all at risk) that I love them. One, likely the most at risk, has a son that is a security guard at a local hospital. He has it at their house in isolation. Feeling very sad today. I'm sorry.
The fact that young people are partying on beaches is disgusting. Florida will be awful.
I know things seem bleak and surreal right now, but we have to try to focus on the positive as much as possible. Maintaining good mental health is important right now.
The TX coast has also seen a multitude of young people (and not so young people) partying on the beaches. I fear that the kind of selfish and short-sighted behavior is going to be detrimental to our containment efforts.
There are many stories going around right now about neighbors pulling together to help each other.
Good news story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-maryland-boy-carepackages-seniors-feed-students
(ETA: Reddit has a dedicated sub for staying up to date with covid-19. Filtering for posts with the "Good News" flair gives some great, positive stories: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/?f=flair_name:"Good News")
All of us will go through the five stage of grief. I'm long past acceptance and in Depression. I've found that the sooner you get through these, the sooner I move onto acceptance and inner strength.
I see light at the end of the tunnel already, but at this point, just want to keep my wife safe.
https://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/10 -
Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
I think it is more cultural. Elderly population with multiple generations living in one home, less social distancing day to day, a lot of festivals in February at the worst possible time, and more defiant about being quarantined. Plus a lot of tourism.13 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Italy has a higher percentage of people over 80, which is one reason suggested for their high rate of fatalities.
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@Bry_Fitness70 You're correct (your post 3 back) and while I live out in the middle of nowhere...folks here are concerned about that kind of despair. Our schools are closed with commercial air cleaning machines going. They will be used as hospitals.
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MikePfirrman wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Italy is being told that their "peak" is around 10 days from now. Nearly 500 per day dying and 6000 new cases yesterday with stressed to the max hospitals already. I had hoped the number would plateau, but it unfortunately hasn't. The only good news for them is everyone is taking it deadly serious. I wish I could say the same here.
@Snowflake -- I'm in constant contact with others in Italy (indoor rowing buddies of mine). I'm praying for you all, even though I know it's going to be the same here. Please pray for us in a few weeks as well. We will need it.
Saw this today - if we agree on the timeline, the US was trending closely with Italy (it has since grown at a larger pace.) The good news is, the US has five times the population (60 million vs 320 million), so the magnitude is much less. (Not sure why California was dropped in with a different timeline)
This, to me, just means we will have 6X the deaths. So, they have 500 a day, we are going to have 3000 a day. I fear it's unavoidable at this stage. I've told all my siblings in Ohio (all at risk) that I love them. One, likely the most at risk, has a son that is a security guard at a local hospital. He has it at their house in isolation. Feeling very sad today. I'm sorry.
The fact that young people are partying on beaches is disgusting. Florida will be awful.
I know things seem bleak and surreal right now, but we have to try to focus on the positive as much as possible. Maintaining good mental health is important right now.
The TX coast has also seen a multitude of young people (and not so young people) partying on the beaches. I fear that the kind of selfish and short-sighted behavior is going to be detrimental to our containment efforts.
There are many stories going around right now about neighbors pulling together to help each other.
Good news story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-maryland-boy-carepackages-seniors-feed-students
(ETA: Reddit has a dedicated sub for staying up to date with covid-19. Filtering for posts with the "Good News" flair gives some great, positive stories: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/?f=flair_name:"Good News")
All of us will go through the five stage of grief. I'm long past acceptance and in Depression. I've found that the sooner you get through these, the sooner I move onto acceptance and inner strength.
I see light at the end of the tunnel already, but at this point, just want to keep my wife safe.
https://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/
I can tell you that you can only do so much. You've prepared, you've told, and now you wait and hope. This will pass.9 -
snowflake954 wrote: »More on the group of people infected in a small town called Fondi about an hour and a half south of Rome. 47 are infected as of yesterday and they are all seniors that were at a party for Carnevale Feb 25. That's 3 weeks ago! Yikes!
This is the part that is exhausting for me mentally. Were we safe enough at the grocery? Should we have used the bathroom at the park? We won’t know for another two weeks.
In Shelby County our first cases were two people who had traveled to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. Reading about them, my first impulse was to think, “Stupid idiots traveling in the middle of a disaster...” but then I noticed the timeline. The first cases in New Orleans were not until well after the end of the Mardi Gras season. There was no reason for them even to be thinking about Coronavirus at the time they were infected, or to self quarantine when they got back. By the time symptomatic people with the virus have appeared in significant numbers in a community, it’s far too late and many, many people are already infected, just not yet showing symptoms.
For this reason I am so grateful to you for trying to persuade us Americans to pay attention to what is happening in Italy, to try to halt the progress while we still can. I’m afraid we’re past that point now and it’s going to get very bad very quickly.12 -
Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Italy is being told that their "peak" is around 10 days from now. Nearly 500 per day dying and 6000 new cases yesterday with stressed to the max hospitals already. I had hoped the number would plateau, but it unfortunately hasn't. The only good news for them is everyone is taking it deadly serious. I wish I could say the same here.
@Snowflake -- I'm in constant contact with others in Italy (indoor rowing buddies of mine). I'm praying for you all, even though I know it's going to be the same here. Please pray for us in a few weeks as well. We will need it.
Saw this today - if we agree on the timeline, the US was trending closely with Italy (it has since grown at a larger pace.) The good news is, the US has five times the population (60 million vs 320 million), so the magnitude is much less. (Not sure why California was dropped in with a different timeline)
This, to me, just means we will have 6X the deaths. So, they have 500 a day, we are going to have 3000 a day. I fear it's unavoidable at this stage. I've told all my siblings in Ohio (all at risk) that I love them. One, likely the most at risk, has a son that is a security guard at a local hospital. He has it at their house in isolation. Feeling very sad today. I'm sorry.
The fact that young people are partying on beaches is disgusting. Florida will be awful.
This means we will potentially have far less than 5x's the number of cases and deaths as Italy. We are a country with 320 million with the same *total number of infections* as a country of 60 million, that is great (if that trend holds up.)
I live in Ohio as well, and I feel like our Governor really jumped up and lead well ahead of the rest of the country. For example, Louisiana and Ohio each had their first case at the same time. Ohio has 88 cases and no deaths. Louisiana has 347 cases and 8 deaths. Ohio's population is 11.6 million vs Louisiana's 4.6 million, so we should have over twice as many cases and deaths. Social distancing is huge and the regions who did promptly and thoroughly are going to suffer far less.
DeWine has been great and acted far earlier than other governors with so few cases. (An aside, I was good friends with one of his (many) kids in school and feel happy that he's doing a good job even if I have disagreements with him on some other things. His kid really liked him as a dad and talked him up -- he was Lt Gov then.)
I think the number of cases is still not even close to identified, though. My state (IL) has been testing way more than some other states and yet as of Sunday we had only 93 (mostly in my major metro area), and on Monday 105. But then when the tests from when more tests started to be available came back we jumped to 160 on Tuesday, 288 on Wednesday, and 422 yesterday. And still mostly in and around the big city I live in, with more jumps likely. I think the breakout of CA on that chart might be showing CA vs Italy as similar population areas? Not sure.
IN had as of Wednesday more deaths than us (1 vs. 2, we had 3 more yesterday, don't know about IN), but a tiny number of identified cases vs. us and also a tiny number of tests vs. us. There's no way they don't have a bunch more cases than they've identified. If Chicago metro is swimming in cases the IN part of that is too.3 -
Yes the lag time on this thing is deadly. It’s why I insisted on starting remote work and other precautions a week ago after just the first case in TX. I already knew it was here but couldn’t justify to management yet2
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Let's see how soon this test can be mass produced and sent out in high enough numbers
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/20-20-bioresponse-to-launch-rapid-coronavirus-test-kits-in-u-s-following-green-light-from-fda/2 -
NYC is in a crisis... things are so bad here.31
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It’s so darn sad.
I feel like I’m always on the edge of crying the past few days. So hard not to worry, and I’m very easy going.
Now they’re selling out guns and ammo at stores that sell them and are still open.11 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Italy has a higher percentage of people over 80, which is one reason suggested for their high rate of fatalities.
We have lot of smokers and the Chinese do too.5 -
missysippy930 wrote: »It’s so darn sad.
I feel like I’m always on the edge of crying the past few days. So hard not to worry, and I’m very easy going.
Now they’re selling out guns and ammo at stores that sell them and are still open.
I'm the same. I'm constantly anxious and every time I start thinking or talking about people in nursing homes I start tearing up.5 -
My sister went to the grocery store early in the morning not knowing it was only for seniors. There she saw seniors wearing little homemade masks they'd sewn together. They went there with hope in their hearts only to find bare shelves.
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I went to YouTube, to just watch my normal stuff but along the side was drone footage, of empty cities worldwide & it makes me wonder when this' over, how empty they'll still be because of the death toll, via this.2
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Have been offline for a few days and didn't go back to read all the comments, so apologize if this has already been brought up. Has anyone seen this story:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fourth-member-jersey-family-dies-000305798.html
Combined with what is happening in Italy, couldn't help but wonder if people of Italian descent are somehow more genetically vulnerable to this virus. Is that possible?
Well--a lot of Chinese died too.
Italy has a higher percentage of people over 80, which is one reason suggested for their high rate of fatalities.
We have lot of smokers and the Chinese do too.
Yeah, I can't remember the exact numbers but I remember seeing a partial breakdown of Chinese deaths and it seemed pretty clear that smoking may be a significant factor.2
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