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I wanted to pop in and say thank you for all the kind words and support. I was worried about posting about my issues and possible backlash, but you all reminded me that there are awesome people out there.
Every time I wear a mask it is a mental and physical struggle. Somedays I can win that struggle and do my shopping without much trouble. Other days... I just can't. My mind will begin to panic, flashing back to the instances that caused my PTSD. I will try and logically think it through, that I am just wearing a mask because it is the right thing to do, no one is forcing me to do so, but it just doesn't work. When I begin to panic my heart rate increases and I begin to gasp for air. Which makes it WORSE because then I really feel like I can't breathe and I panic more. It's a horrible cycle until I take the mask off. Then I am "free" and my mind will start to calm down though it is not immediate. If I try to put the mask back on, then I end up right back where I was.
I have tried to have groceries delivered and it was a horrible experience. So many substitutions. Which may be fine for most people, but when you have food allergies and restrictions due to medical issues a substitution may mean you can't eat it. For example, I ordered Coconut Aminos because I am allergic to soy. They brought me Liquid Aminos which are made with soy protein. I had checked the "no substitutions" box but it didn't seem to help. So wasted money there. Also, to be honest, it is a budget thing as well. Paying for delivery takes me over my budget and I just can't keep doing that.
So I wear my mask the best I can and try to do my shopping quickly.
Hugs to you @Athijade - the fact that you confront your demons to try to protect others is incredibly brave.
So, predictably (since I was pretty sure it was an ear infection), my COVID test came back negative (on Tuesday)... AND my symptoms have mostly gone away as of Monday (thankfully - I was pretty dizzy and tired). Prior to getting sick, I had been reporting to the office for work that is fairly critical and cannot be done from my home office. I let them know the negative result on Tuesday and that I planned to be in the office on Wednesday, and was told that I had to stay away for 10 days after the last of the symptoms even with a negative test. The stated reason was because of high false-negatives with the testing. So, we're testing people with tests that are unreliable? Why bother? Anyway, I'm frustrated because 4 months ago, I'd have gone to work sick and done my job (and I know how that sounds, I'm trying to think more of my coworkers than the job nowadays). I did the 'right' thing, and now even with a negative test, I'm not being allowed to do my job (or at least the part of it that was supposedly so critical I needed to be in the office). There should be a cranky emoticon, dangit.
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@Athijade
It is difficult ordering groceries. In our own situation it is better than going to the store. Nearly every order we get we have 4 items that are not available. We pay 9.50 Euros for delivery no matter how much we order. Often the delivery people are not masked. We just tell them to leave it by the door. Although things aren't perfect, and like you, we don't have money to waste, we definately stand behind staying in at all costs and waiting until people get their heads screwed on right. Even if it is a year before we can go out its better than having SarsCov2 to battle.3 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »I wanted to pop in and say thank you for all the kind words and support. I was worried about posting about my issues and possible backlash, but you all reminded me that there are awesome people out there.
Every time I wear a mask it is a mental and physical struggle. Somedays I can win that struggle and do my shopping without much trouble. Other days... I just can't. My mind will begin to panic, flashing back to the instances that caused my PTSD. I will try and logically think it through, that I am just wearing a mask because it is the right thing to do, no one is forcing me to do so, but it just doesn't work. When I begin to panic my heart rate increases and I begin to gasp for air. Which makes it WORSE because then I really feel like I can't breathe and I panic more. It's a horrible cycle until I take the mask off. Then I am "free" and my mind will start to calm down though it is not immediate. If I try to put the mask back on, then I end up right back where I was.
I have tried to have groceries delivered and it was a horrible experience. So many substitutions. Which may be fine for most people, but when you have food allergies and restrictions due to medical issues a substitution may mean you can't eat it. For example, I ordered Coconut Aminos because I am allergic to soy. They brought me Liquid Aminos which are made with soy protein. I had checked the "no substitutions" box but it didn't seem to help. So wasted money there. Also, to be honest, it is a budget thing as well. Paying for delivery takes me over my budget and I just can't keep doing that.
So I wear my mask the best I can and try to do my shopping quickly.
Hugs to you @Athijade - the fact that you confront your demons to try to protect others is incredibly brave.
So, predictably (since I was pretty sure it was an ear infection), my COVID test came back negative (on Tuesday)... AND my symptoms have mostly gone away as of Monday (thankfully - I was pretty dizzy and tired). Prior to getting sick, I had been reporting to the office for work that is fairly critical and cannot be done from my home office. I let them know the negative result on Tuesday and that I planned to be in the office on Wednesday, and was told that I had to stay away for 10 days after the last of the symptoms even with a negative test. The stated reason was because of high false-negatives with the testing. So, we're testing people with tests that are unreliable? Why bother? Anyway, I'm frustrated because 4 months ago, I'd have gone to work sick and done my job (and I know how that sounds, I'm trying to think more of my coworkers than the job nowadays). I did the 'right' thing, and now even with a negative test, I'm not being allowed to do my job (or at least the part of it that was supposedly so critical I needed to be in the office). There should be a cranky emoticon, dangit.
My husband’s work’s official policy is that you have to be quarantined for 14 days even after known direct exposure, not just symptoms or a positive test. Makes it hard when you have a skeleton crew anyway.3 -
Interesting article about how the U.S. ended up in this situation now:
How the Virus Won https://nyti.ms/2NumkRq3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Interesting article about how the U.S. ended up in this situation now:
How the Virus Won https://nyti.ms/2NumkRq
Dude. As someone who is paranoid about cyber-security, your tiny URLs are killing me (even though I know that's not necessarily rational). I can only bring myself to click on them because you've been around long enough for me to trust that you're not trying to infect all our computers (go ahead, laugh at me - I laugh at me all the time
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Anyway - wow. Thank you for sharing that article.7 -
moonangel12 wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »I wanted to pop in and say thank you for all the kind words and support. I was worried about posting about my issues and possible backlash, but you all reminded me that there are awesome people out there.
Every time I wear a mask it is a mental and physical struggle. Somedays I can win that struggle and do my shopping without much trouble. Other days... I just can't. My mind will begin to panic, flashing back to the instances that caused my PTSD. I will try and logically think it through, that I am just wearing a mask because it is the right thing to do, no one is forcing me to do so, but it just doesn't work. When I begin to panic my heart rate increases and I begin to gasp for air. Which makes it WORSE because then I really feel like I can't breathe and I panic more. It's a horrible cycle until I take the mask off. Then I am "free" and my mind will start to calm down though it is not immediate. If I try to put the mask back on, then I end up right back where I was.
I have tried to have groceries delivered and it was a horrible experience. So many substitutions. Which may be fine for most people, but when you have food allergies and restrictions due to medical issues a substitution may mean you can't eat it. For example, I ordered Coconut Aminos because I am allergic to soy. They brought me Liquid Aminos which are made with soy protein. I had checked the "no substitutions" box but it didn't seem to help. So wasted money there. Also, to be honest, it is a budget thing as well. Paying for delivery takes me over my budget and I just can't keep doing that.
So I wear my mask the best I can and try to do my shopping quickly.
Hugs to you @Athijade - the fact that you confront your demons to try to protect others is incredibly brave.
So, predictably (since I was pretty sure it was an ear infection), my COVID test came back negative (on Tuesday)... AND my symptoms have mostly gone away as of Monday (thankfully - I was pretty dizzy and tired). Prior to getting sick, I had been reporting to the office for work that is fairly critical and cannot be done from my home office. I let them know the negative result on Tuesday and that I planned to be in the office on Wednesday, and was told that I had to stay away for 10 days after the last of the symptoms even with a negative test. The stated reason was because of high false-negatives with the testing. So, we're testing people with tests that are unreliable? Why bother? Anyway, I'm frustrated because 4 months ago, I'd have gone to work sick and done my job (and I know how that sounds, I'm trying to think more of my coworkers than the job nowadays). I did the 'right' thing, and now even with a negative test, I'm not being allowed to do my job (or at least the part of it that was supposedly so critical I needed to be in the office). There should be a cranky emoticon, dangit.
My husband’s work’s official policy is that you have to be quarantined for 14 days even after known direct exposure, not just symptoms or a positive test. Makes it hard when you have a skeleton crew anyway.
That's the thing - I didn't have direct exposure that I'm aware of. I got tested at the direction of my doctor due to common ear infection symptoms that also happen to be COVID symptoms (sore throat being one of them). No worries, though - I was just venting. We also have the mandatory 14 day quarantine if you know you are directly exposed directive.
And YES, definitely hard to work on a skeleton crew when a perfectly healthy employee is not being allowed to come in. Part of my frustration is that others are having to carry my work, and they don't have the bandwidth to do it... and I'm healthy, and would really like to go in and help. 5 -
I am gonna say it and if I get downvoted to heck then so be it.
I wear a mask the vast VAST majority of time. However, I have PTSD and a trigger is having something over my face/mouth. This is due to 2 different incidents (one medical and one not). 95% of the time I can handle it long enough to get my groceries and leave the store. 5% of the time I can't. However, the times I have had trouble didn't start to manifest until I was IN the store and doing my shopping. I HAD to remove my mask before I went into a full blown attack and started screaming or crying or even falling to the floor in a ball. I had to then find a quiet spot in the store to get my body to stop the "fight or flight" reaction. I then had to finish my shopping without a mask (though I became even more diligent about staying far away from people).
Have you ever seen someone have a panic attack or PTSD episode? It's not pretty.
I guess all I am saying is to not just jump to conclusions if someone isn't wearing a mask at that specific moment in time. Not everyone not wearing one is doing so because "MEH FREEDOM!!". Not everyone not wearing one has a "death wish". Are those people out there? Absolutely and they annoy the heck out of me because they make it harder for everyone else.
I've had panic attacks
Would wearing a face shield work for you?I wanted to pop in and say thank you for all the kind words and support. I was worried about posting about my issues and possible backlash, but you all reminded me that there are awesome people out there.
Every time I wear a mask it is a mental and physical struggle. Somedays I can win that struggle and do my shopping without much trouble. Other days... I just can't. My mind will begin to panic, flashing back to the instances that caused my PTSD. I will try and logically think it through, that I am just wearing a mask because it is the right thing to do, no one is forcing me to do so, but it just doesn't work. When I begin to panic my heart rate increases and I begin to gasp for air. Which makes it WORSE because then I really feel like I can't breathe and I panic more. It's a horrible cycle until I take the mask off. Then I am "free" and my mind will start to calm down though it is not immediate. If I try to put the mask back on, then I end up right back where I was.
I have tried to have groceries delivered and it was a horrible experience. So many substitutions. Which may be fine for most people, but when you have food allergies and restrictions due to medical issues a substitution may mean you can't eat it. For example, I ordered Coconut Aminos because I am allergic to soy. They brought me Liquid Aminos which are made with soy protein. I had checked the "no substitutions" box but it didn't seem to help. So wasted money there. Also, to be honest, it is a budget thing as well. Paying for delivery takes me over my budget and I just can't keep doing that.
So I wear my mask the best I can and try to do my shopping quickly.
I would think whatever service you used, if you had checked "no substitutions" and they subbed anyway, you could get a refund. If you go this route again, perhaps take a screen shot of your order with this info and save it until the order has been delivered? I make screenshots with Amazon when I use Prime two day (usually I use No Rush) and I'm skeptical it will actually come in two days so if it fails, I am in a better position to negotiate for a credit.
Not sure what service you're using, but Whole Foods has been great about giving me refunds when they mess something up.
I know with Instacart you can message your picker.
I just used Instacart once - I hate that they inflate prices and don't honor store sales. With Whole Foods, I get the sales and since I always make the minimum my only extra charge is the tip for the driver. I believe Peapod (which may just be a local thing) does not inflate prices. So perhaps there is a delivery service that is more budget friendly for you.
Oh, there may be pickup available too. My mom gets Peapod pickup and I believe there is no charge for that. They put the groceries in her back seat. This would cut down on the time you have to use a mask. However, it may not cut down on messed up orders 4 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I am gonna say it and if I get downvoted to heck then so be it.
I wear a mask the vast VAST majority of time. However, I have PTSD and a trigger is having something over my face/mouth. This is due to 2 different incidents (one medical and one not). 95% of the time I can handle it long enough to get my groceries and leave the store. 5% of the time I can't. However, the times I have had trouble didn't start to manifest until I was IN the store and doing my shopping. I HAD to remove my mask before I went into a full blown attack and started screaming or crying or even falling to the floor in a ball. I had to then find a quiet spot in the store to get my body to stop the "fight or flight" reaction. I then had to finish my shopping without a mask (though I became even more diligent about staying far away from people).
Have you ever seen someone have a panic attack or PTSD episode? It's not pretty.
I guess all I am saying is to not just jump to conclusions if someone isn't wearing a mask at that specific moment in time. Not everyone not wearing one is doing so because "MEH FREEDOM!!". Not everyone not wearing one has a "death wish". Are those people out there? Absolutely and they annoy the heck out of me because they make it harder for everyone else.
Exactly--and it's for people like you that really can't wear a mask, that the majority should be. I think that's what's firing up everyone else who is careful, and thinking of people they care about, and wearing that mask even if it's hot and uncomfortable. They see too many people without and it can't mean that they all have medical conditions. You are to be commended for trying to wear it as much as possible. No one thinks everyone can. Thank you for doing your best.
So well said by both of you.My beef with anti-maskers are the ones who are simply being stubborn, contrary and not giving any thought to other people. Definitely Athijade isn't one of those. My feeling is you're one of the few who think it through and try that hard though; at least of the non-maskers. I do see where lots of people have a mask covering only their mouth and I wonder if it's so they can breathe easier through their nose? A mask, especially, in hot and humid weather, can make you feel like you're suffocating to some degree. And I cannot imagine wearing one for a whole work day as some people are required to.
I made the mistake of stopping at the Salvation Army on my way home from my sister's house this a.m. I was the only person with a mask on out of maybe 8 people there, including a woman coming into the store looking for a job.
Our area has been very lucky with low numbers and nobody at the moment known to be positive but all it takes is that one person to enter our community, not even knowing they're contagious.
My niece lives in Maine and she was relating a story about a hair salon with 2 hairdressers, both ended up testing positive after they'd unknowingly exposed 300 or so customers. But at their work, they required all patrons and employees to wear masks. Not one of those 300+ people caught Covid from those 2 hairdressers. If anyone knows this story please confirm because it's come through 2 people and I'm not 100% sure of it's accuracy. But I still find it very interesting, possibly indicating the success of wearing a mask.
I didn't find one in Maine, but another story from Missouri.
Edited to include the link:
https://www.businessinsider.com/two-missouri-hairstylists-with-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-none-infected-2020-6
Thank you Em, for sharing that story!! Could be a different case or my niece did some embellishing. 1 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I am also seeing here (in Italy) advertising on TV for products, especially foods, have people wearing masks. Since there is the famous "herd mentality" then the more people that wear them--the more people will wear them. As I've mentioned our numbers keep going down. There are a few clusters, that are quickly isolated, with the majority of cases still in the North.
I am saddened by all your reports from the States. This means that you'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus much longer. I'll be leaving soon for the summer, and will report in in September. I hope to hear that the situation in the States has gotten better.
I work very hard to avoid watching commercials and have not seen many in the US with mask wearers - maybe just a few from places like Amazon. I think these were youtube commercials rather than on regular TV.
For people in the US who do see more commercials - what are you seeing? Are there PSAs (public service announcements) about mask use?1 -
I wanted to pop in and say thank you for all the kind words and support. I was worried about posting about my issues and possible backlash, but you all reminded me that there are awesome people out there.
Every time I wear a mask it is a mental and physical struggle. Somedays I can win that struggle and do my shopping without much trouble. Other days... I just can't. My mind will begin to panic, flashing back to the instances that caused my PTSD. I will try and logically think it through, that I am just wearing a mask because it is the right thing to do, no one is forcing me to do so, but it just doesn't work. When I begin to panic my heart rate increases and I begin to gasp for air. Which makes it WORSE because then I really feel like I can't breathe and I panic more. It's a horrible cycle until I take the mask off. Then I am "free" and my mind will start to calm down though it is not immediate. If I try to put the mask back on, then I end up right back where I was.
I have tried to have groceries delivered and it was a horrible experience. So many substitutions. Which may be fine for most people, but when you have food allergies and restrictions due to medical issues a substitution may mean you can't eat it. For example, I ordered Coconut Aminos because I am allergic to soy. They brought me Liquid Aminos which are made with soy protein. I had checked the "no substitutions" box but it didn't seem to help. So wasted money there. Also, to be honest, it is a budget thing as well. Paying for delivery takes me over my budget and I just can't keep doing that.
So I wear my mask the best I can and try to do my shopping quickly.
Hugs to you!! Have you looked into getting a face shield? Would that help at all?
ETA: I see Kshama already brought that up. 3 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I am also seeing here (in Italy) advertising on TV for products, especially foods, have people wearing masks. Since there is the famous "herd mentality" then the more people that wear them--the more people will wear them. As I've mentioned our numbers keep going down. There are a few clusters, that are quickly isolated, with the majority of cases still in the North.
I am saddened by all your reports from the States. This means that you'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus much longer. I'll be leaving soon for the summer, and will report in in September. I hope to hear that the situation in the States has gotten better.
I disagree with you that we'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus longer if we don't wear masks and practice social distancing. It will all be over quicker once we've all spread the germ as far as possible. Flattening the curve was only supposed to keep us all from getting sick at once and overwhelming the health care system. I suppose it's possible that we could still have spikes that might overwhelm the system, but Even Then, the faster everyone catches it, the sooner we can stop living in fear of catching it.
Here in Massachusetts I see a very high percentage of mask/face covering wearing. (Sometimes people aren't wearing them correctly, but they do seem to be trying.)
While driving to a supermarket (where I saw 100% correct mask use), Chuck Todd of "Meet the Press" called into a local radio show and congratulated "Mask Central Massachusetts" for our great curve.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#states
Other than my neighbor, who lives in fear of everything, not just the coronavirus, I don't really see a "living in fear" mentality, more of a "I don't want to catch it and this is what we are supposed to do to prevent it" attitude.11 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Interesting article about how the U.S. ended up in this situation now:
How the Virus Won https://nyti.ms/2NumkRq
Dude. As someone who is paranoid about cyber-security, your tiny URLs are killing me (even though I know that's not necessarily rational). I can only bring myself to click on them because you've been around long enough for me to trust that you're not trying to infect all our computers (go ahead, laugh at me - I laugh at me all the time ).
Anyway - wow. Thank you for sharing that article.
I never even thought about it TBH. On my phone with the article, I just clicked on the "Share" button and clicked on the Copy button. Then paste here.1 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Interesting article about how the U.S. ended up in this situation now:
How the Virus Won https://nyti.ms/2NumkRq
Dude. As someone who is paranoid about cyber-security, your tiny URLs are killing me (even though I know that's not necessarily rational). I can only bring myself to click on them because you've been around long enough for me to trust that you're not trying to infect all our computers (go ahead, laugh at me - I laugh at me all the time ).
Anyway - wow. Thank you for sharing that article.
I never even thought about it TBH. On my phone with the article, I just clicked on the "Share" button and clicked on the Copy button. Then paste here.
The New York Times has a special deal with bit.ly (at least it started out wiht bit.ly, don't know if still is), where they have their own custom nyti.ms shortened links. That's a different security scenario than the typical low-sophistication bit.ly (or whatever generic URL shortener) malware scenario, where literally anyone can use the shortener, put in a malware URL, and get a more innocent-looking short link.
Someone other than me will need to give an expert opinion on how much the risk differs. I'm quite sure it would, but I'm not sure how much, or in what specific ways. (I used to have computer security responsibilities, but I've been retired for a long time now and haven't kept up. My expectation would be that the special custom links like nyti.ms would be less risky than generics, especially if a trusted shortener source, but I can't justify that. MS is the Montserrat geographic domain, FWIW, so how that's managed could enter into it.)
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JustSomeEm wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Interesting article about how the U.S. ended up in this situation now:
How the Virus Won https://nyti.ms/2NumkRq
Dude. As someone who is paranoid about cyber-security, your tiny URLs are killing me (even though I know that's not necessarily rational). I can only bring myself to click on them because you've been around long enough for me to trust that you're not trying to infect all our computers (go ahead, laugh at me - I laugh at me all the time ).
Anyway - wow. Thank you for sharing that article.
https://www.expandurl.net/4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I am also seeing here (in Italy) advertising on TV for products, especially foods, have people wearing masks. Since there is the famous "herd mentality" then the more people that wear them--the more people will wear them. As I've mentioned our numbers keep going down. There are a few clusters, that are quickly isolated, with the majority of cases still in the North.
I am saddened by all your reports from the States. This means that you'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus much longer. I'll be leaving soon for the summer, and will report in in September. I hope to hear that the situation in the States has gotten better.
I work very hard to avoid watching commercials and have not seen many in the US with mask wearers - maybe just a few from places like Amazon. I think these were youtube commercials rather than on regular TV.
For people in the US who do see more commercials - what are you seeing? Are there PSAs (public service announcements) about mask use?
I see masks in commercials for companies attempting to show they are working to keep employees and customers safe. Commercials for products, that just show people going about they're daily lives using their products, still seem to be older commercials understandably filmed before the pandemic.
I see PSA's from my local news and health dept, nothing national or corporate.
And the TP companies keep telling me how hard they are working to keep our butts clean
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kshama2001 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I am also seeing here (in Italy) advertising on TV for products, especially foods, have people wearing masks. Since there is the famous "herd mentality" then the more people that wear them--the more people will wear them. As I've mentioned our numbers keep going down. There are a few clusters, that are quickly isolated, with the majority of cases still in the North.
I am saddened by all your reports from the States. This means that you'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus much longer. I'll be leaving soon for the summer, and will report in in September. I hope to hear that the situation in the States has gotten better.
I work very hard to avoid watching commercials and have not seen many in the US with mask wearers - maybe just a few from places like Amazon. I think these were youtube commercials rather than on regular TV.
For people in the US who do see more commercials - what are you seeing? Are there PSAs (public service announcements) about mask use?
I see masks in commercials for companies attempting to show they are working to keep employees and customers safe. Commercials for products, that just show people going about they're daily lives using their products, still seem to be older commercials understandably filmed before the pandemic.
I see PSA's from my local news and health dept, nothing national or corporate.
And the TP companies keep telling me how hard they are working to keep our butts clean
Yeah, the masks show up in every commercial that starts with "In these uncertain times...."6 -
I heard the mayor in Memphis finally signed the order requiring masks. Co-workers talking about it and they are mostly upset... vowing to never go down to Memphis again, then adding that they never really liked or went to Memphis anyway. This reminds me of what I hear when a neighboring state just starts requiring helmets for motorcycles.8
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I heard the mayor in Memphis finally signed the order requiring masks. Co-workers talking about it and they are mostly upset... vowing to never go down to Memphis again, then adding that they never really liked or went to Memphis anyway. This reminds me of what I hear when a neighboring state just starts requiring helmets for motorcycles.
Well, TX Governor is talking rolling back the reopening. When people start realizing it's wear a mask or shut down the state again, wearing a mask doesn't sound so bad.17 -
kshama2001 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I am also seeing here (in Italy) advertising on TV for products, especially foods, have people wearing masks. Since there is the famous "herd mentality" then the more people that wear them--the more people will wear them. As I've mentioned our numbers keep going down. There are a few clusters, that are quickly isolated, with the majority of cases still in the North.
I am saddened by all your reports from the States. This means that you'll have to live with the fear of catching the virus much longer. I'll be leaving soon for the summer, and will report in in September. I hope to hear that the situation in the States has gotten better.
I work very hard to avoid watching commercials and have not seen many in the US with mask wearers - maybe just a few from places like Amazon. I think these were youtube commercials rather than on regular TV.
For people in the US who do see more commercials - what are you seeing? Are there PSAs (public service announcements) about mask use?
I see masks in commercials for companies attempting to show they are working to keep employees and customers safe. Commercials for products, that just show people going about they're daily lives using their products, still seem to be older commercials understandably filmed before the pandemic.
I see PSA's from my local news and health dept, nothing national or corporate.
And the TP companies keep telling me how hard they are working to keep our butts clean
Yes, when I wrote that I was wondering how many new commercials are being made these days.
Whole Foods email:
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https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-face-masks-infection-rates-20200624.html
Interesting piece comparing the current increase or decrease of cases in various states by mask policies.
I think there are confounding variables -- many states now on the decline and which require mask wearing also were hit hard earlier and so are on the downward (or soon to be downward, one hopes) side of the curve, whereas many of those being hit hard now had fewer cases earlier. You'd think that would be a chance to learn from the mistakes those with less advance warning makes, but it's not that surprising for many people it meant complacency.3
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