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  • MaxxittMaxxitt Member Posts: 1,261 Member Member Posts: 1,261 Member
    On another note, I ran across this today - just anecdotal, but not terribly encouraging, account of likely re-infection after clearing covid-19 once http://bitly.ws/92Jk It doesn't surprise me, given the emerging data about how antibody level appears to fall over time.
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  • GaleHawkinsGaleHawkins Member Posts: 7,945 Member Member Posts: 7,945 Member
    Maxxitt wrote: »
    On another note, I ran across this today - just anecdotal, but not terribly encouraging, account of likely re-infection after clearing covid-19 once http://bitly.ws/92Jk It doesn't surprise me, given the emerging data about how antibody level appears to fall over time.

    That is not encouraging if it is proven factual. Actually some people have the more common flu types over and over. We just do not have hard science on COVID-19 yet but that should come down the road.
  • ExistingFishExistingFish Member Posts: 1,109 Member Member Posts: 1,109 Member
    ythannah wrote: »

    Sanitizer is recommended when hand washing isn't possible. I can't use alcohol-based sanitizer as it causes contact dermatitis so I have to carry my own bottle of non-alcohol sanitizer since some stores have made hand sanitizing mandatory for entrance. I carry my own soap too as most of the commercial quality detergents are too harsh. I used the stuff in the bathrooms at work twice (forgot my little bottle before I went in) and the skin on my fingers has opened up in about five places. If I'd been using sanitizer regularly since March, I'd have no skin left on my hands at this point.

    My daughter's hands break out terribly from almost all soaps, but sanitizer doesn't seem to bother her. Then again it's only like once a week she uses it (church, or she's been to the doctor once).

    They did a soap substitution that gave her the worst rash I've seen on her hands. We had another "unusual" soap once when it was all they had, and it set us back on the rash again.

    She now uses Cetaphil or Cerave face wash. We don't carry it around, as it seems once at church or something won't hurt, but I feel your pain.
  • ExistingFishExistingFish Member Posts: 1,109 Member Member Posts: 1,109 Member
    Went to the dentist for a cleaning on Friday—screening questions on the phone, called when I arrived, more screening questions & temperature check while masked, outside, front door locked before/after entrance—no non masked/temp checked person is getting in there!

    Hygienist masked, gloves, w face shield, couldn’t polish teeth bc of possible aerosols.
    2 patients in whole office at a time, and she was wiping down all the things we had to swish peroxide rinse before starting...glad I don’t have a strong gag reflex! I’m fine w that, just really wanted to see if the filling I thought was chipped was (yup. And has been since right after lockdown. Hoping not a lot of extra decay, but need a crown now). Covid is costing me a crown and a new retainer and months of new TMJ pain from teeth shifting bc previous retainer didn’t work w crown I got right bf Covid. Not to mention front teeth are now crooked when they never had been...so probably another round of invisiline. Bah, Covid.

    Noticed they are charging us $20 per visit for PPE. Dentist is friendly w my husband and they were commiserating about how hard it was to get PPE for physician/dentist offices—dentist spent $10K at the beginning of lockdown on PPE for his solo office. I’m sure it’s been more since then—that was when he was only seeing emergencies.

    Ugh, this doesn't make me hopeful about my TMJ getting better. Although I see why my dentist wants to hold off on any night guards until all my work is complete. I've been to the dentist several times since covid hit, I was not charged extra for PPE.

    It was said earlier - shouldn't dentists already be wearing masks and gloves? They just need to wear them longer/keep them on when talking. How do they get off charging your $20 extra? You can get a pack of 100 face shields on Amazon for $35 last I checked.

  • lynn_glenmontlynn_glenmont Member Posts: 8,215 Member Member Posts: 8,215 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Did everybody see the bus driver who was assaulted by a couple people, all over mask requirements; he died due to extensive brain injuries. :( WTF is wrong with people???? They need extensive jail time, hopefully in a Covid ward of some kind. I'm sorry, I wouldn't wish Covid on my enemies but really, to me that'd be justice working at its best.

    Is that the one in France? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/french-bus-driver-beaten-death-after-asking-passengers-wear-face-n1233603

    I recall being surprised that stuff like that was apparently happening there too.

    A friend of mine took the bus recently, and she said most were wearing them, but not all. I wish the drivers were enforcing them here, or refusing to let people on. Possibly some are, some aren't.

    In our area, when shutdown orders first went into place, you had to enter from the door at the middle of the bus, and they suspended fares. I'm not sure if the mirrors for drivers are good enough to let them see whether someone at the middle of the bus is wearing a mask, and how they would deal with it if there was one person not wearing a mask and another who was (pretty sure the non-mask-wearer would not comply with a request not to board if the driver opened the door for the mask-wearer). Plus, I don't think the drivers should be put in a situation of enforcement/confrontation with anti-social individuals whose response might be to beat them to death.

    Another situation I don't know the answer for. Maybe we're already living in a dystopian future, and just haven't noticed.
  • corinasue1143corinasue1143 Member Posts: 4,014 Member Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    @moonangel12, what is their exact complaint? I ask because it is just so easy for me to wear a mask that it is hard for me to imagine that so many people object so much.
    I understand that a few people have panic attacks or other reasons. But I really don’t understand the ANGER about masks.
    One lady doesn’t wear one when she doesn’t have to just because she doesn’t want to, but when her work told her she had to, she didn’t question it at all, just put it on and always wears one to work. Still not anywhere else.
  • lynn_glenmontlynn_glenmont Member Posts: 8,215 Member Member Posts: 8,215 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Did everybody see the bus driver who was assaulted by a couple people, all over mask requirements; he died due to extensive brain injuries. :( WTF is wrong with people???? They need extensive jail time, hopefully in a Covid ward of some kind. I'm sorry, I wouldn't wish Covid on my enemies but really, to me that'd be justice working at its best.

    Is that the one in France? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/french-bus-driver-beaten-death-after-asking-passengers-wear-face-n1233603

    I recall being surprised that stuff like that was apparently happening there too.

    A friend of mine took the bus recently, and she said most were wearing them, but not all. I wish the drivers were enforcing them here, or refusing to let people on. Possibly some are, some aren't.

    Unfortunately the driver would rather take a chance with the possible virus vs possible physical altercation.

    I don't think a physical altercation would be very likely here (you can't get on until you pay, you can't get on without a mask), at least not in the places I've taken buses. My friend said most people were wearing them, and the bus crowd tends to be older on average. Maybe in some parts of the South and West sides it would be different.

    I went to the post office downtown last week and had to ask for help finding a package at the desk. There are big signs that masks are required, and everyone was wearing them and standing on the dots that social distance those in line, but then some young woman with a bike (I also doubt bikes are allowed in the building) came up and stood right next to me without a mask. I moved sideways to get away from her (I was at the counter being helped, not in line), but didn't say anything because I am conflict avoidant in public and wasn't really in the mood for the "okay, Karen" or whatever thing she was likely to say, but I was slightly annoyed their security didn't tell her to put a mask on. But since I didn't say anything, I can't really complain, I suppose. I always find it surprising when people are just so blatant in disregarding the rules, though, since I can't imagine doing that.

    How does that work? Is the farebox attached to the outside of the bus? The places I've used buses, the fareboxes are inside the bus, next to the driver so s/he can see if you pay or not. And if you can't get on if you're not wearing a mask, does that mean that all the mask-wearers at a stop with one non-mask-wearer gets left behind? All the scenarios I'm imagining where this works involves a level of compliance that I wouldn't expect from someone who has already decided not to mask (e.g., the door opens for the mask-wearers, and the non-mask-wearer just doesn't get on because they're not supposed to).

  • Theoldguy1Theoldguy1 Member Posts: 1,235 Member Member Posts: 1,235 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Did everybody see the bus driver who was assaulted by a couple people, all over mask requirements; he died due to extensive brain injuries. :( WTF is wrong with people???? They need extensive jail time, hopefully in a Covid ward of some kind. I'm sorry, I wouldn't wish Covid on my enemies but really, to me that'd be justice working at its best.

    Is that the one in France? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/french-bus-driver-beaten-death-after-asking-passengers-wear-face-n1233603

    I recall being surprised that stuff like that was apparently happening there too.

    A friend of mine took the bus recently, and she said most were wearing them, but not all. I wish the drivers were enforcing them here, or refusing to let people on. Possibly some are, some aren't.

    Unfortunately the driver would rather take a chance with the possible virus vs possible physical altercation.

    I don't think a physical altercation would be very likely here (you can't get on until you pay, you can't get on without a mask), at least not in the places I've taken buses. My friend said most people were wearing them, and the bus crowd tends to be older on average. Maybe in some parts of the South and West sides it would be different.

    I went to the post office downtown last week and had to ask for help finding a package at the desk. There are big signs that masks are required, and everyone was wearing them and standing on the dots that social distance those in line, but then some young woman with a bike (I also doubt bikes are allowed in the building) came up and stood right next to me without a mask. I moved sideways to get away from her (I was at the counter being helped, not in line), but didn't say anything because I am conflict avoidant in public and wasn't really in the mood for the "okay, Karen" or whatever thing she was likely to say, but I was slightly annoyed their security didn't tell her to put a mask on. But since I didn't say anything, I can't really complain, I suppose. I always find it surprising when people are just so blatant in disregarding the rules, though, since I can't imagine doing that.

    How does that work? Is the farebox attached to the outside of the bus? The places I've used buses, the fareboxes are inside the bus, next to the driver so s/he can see if you pay or not. And if you can't get on if you're not wearing a mask, does that mean that all the mask-wearers at a stop with one non-mask-wearer gets left behind? All the scenarios I'm imagining where this works involves a level of compliance that I wouldn't expect from someone who has already decided not to mask (e.g., the door opens for the mask-wearers, and the non-mask-wearer just doesn't get on because they're not supposed to).

    That's what I was thinking. I haven't been on a city transit bus for decades except a couple times when they were used for shuttle buses for a ball game but those had a fare box next to the driver.
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