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We've had a cold in our family. I know it's a cold, we've all had sneezing and stuffy heads with fatigue and a little bit of a sore throat early on. No loss of taste, no fever. Boyfriend and I are more or less over it and feel fine eight days on. Girlfriend has COPD and I am kind of staying ready today in case she needs to go to the hospital because just using her rescue inhaler isn't working any more. It's obviously hit her WAY harder than everyone else.
And yes, I've stayed out of the general populace. All I did was to pick up necessary medications through the drivethrough, so no one else got this. Much wiping down of surfaces, and when I finally go to the store I'll glove as well as mask.
But when I first started to feel sick I just absolutely panicked. I only settled down when I had it pointed out to me repeatedly that upper respiratory symptoms are probably just a cold. And it has largely run its course in seven days, so it probably just was.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
What about the guards and other people who work in the prisons?
Basic check on reporting for duty each day. Temperature checks and hand sanitizing before entering is the bare minimum at every institution around here, and you aren't allowed in to work if the temperature is above the threshold.
Also we expect honest declarations from persons who've traveled to high risk places while on holiday, before returning to work. I suppose you'd need some variation of this in countries where there's a lot of local spread.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
What about the guards and other people who work in the prisons?
Basic check on reporting for duty each day. Temperature checks and hand sanitizing before entering is the bare minimum at every institution around here, and you aren't allowed in to work if the temperature is above the threshold.
Also we expect honest declarations from persons who've traveled to high risk places while on holiday, before returning to work. I suppose you'd need some variation of this in countries where there's a lot of local spread.
We just had a big new outbreak in a prison here. In daily checks, a staff member was found to have symptoms, and was sent home, and others quarantined. But the virus had already taken hold. Keep in mind that people can be shedding virus (i.e., contagious) before symptoms are present. Then, spread is fast in a close-quarters environment like this. This sort of thing is almost inevitable in places where there is significant community spread in the community from which the employees are drawn.
Currently, of 327 employees, 112 are currently off work as a consequence of this outbreak (tested positive, under investigation, or close contacts). 457 prisoners have tested positive, and a further 225 positive cases were transferred to another prison (because of the staffing shortage, I believe) and isolated from other inmates at that 2nd prison.7 -
snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
What about the guards and other people who work in the prisons?
Basic check on reporting for duty each day. Temperature checks and hand sanitizing before entering is the bare minimum at every institution around here, and you aren't allowed in to work if the temperature is above the threshold.
Also we expect honest declarations from persons who've traveled to high risk places while on holiday, before returning to work. I suppose you'd need some variation of this in countries where there's a lot of local spread.
We just had a big new outbreak in a prison here. In daily checks, a staff member was found to have symptoms, and was sent home, and others quarantined. But the virus had already taken hold. Keep in mind that people can be shedding virus (i.e., contagious) before symptoms are present. Then, spread is fast in a close-quarters environment like this. This sort of thing is almost inevitable in places where there is significant community spread in the community from which the employees are drawn.
Currently, of 327 employees, 112 are currently off work as a consequence of this outbreak (tested positive, under investigation, or close contacts). 457 prisoners have tested positive, and a further 225 positive cases were transferred to another prison (because of the staffing shortage, I believe) and isolated from other inmates at that 2nd prison.
Yes. Just my point - "in places where there is significant community spread in the community from which the employees are drawn" it would be difficult to control. If it starts, it's hard to stop. So the secret is to block community spread from ever starting. But I agree that's easier in a small country than a large one.
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snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
What about the guards and other people who work in the prisons?
Basic check on reporting for duty each day. Temperature checks and hand sanitizing before entering is the bare minimum at every institution around here, and you aren't allowed in to work if the temperature is above the threshold.
Also we expect honest declarations from persons who've traveled to high risk places while on holiday, before returning to work. I suppose you'd need some variation of this in countries where there's a lot of local spread.
We just had a big new outbreak in a prison here. In daily checks, a staff member was found to have symptoms, and was sent home, and others quarantined. But the virus had already taken hold. Keep in mind that people can be shedding virus (i.e., contagious) before symptoms are present. Then, spread is fast in a close-quarters environment like this. This sort of thing is almost inevitable in places where there is significant community spread in the community from which the employees are drawn.
Currently, of 327 employees, 112 are currently off work as a consequence of this outbreak (tested positive, under investigation, or close contacts). 457 prisoners have tested positive, and a further 225 positive cases were transferred to another prison (because of the staffing shortage, I believe) and isolated from other inmates at that 2nd prison.
Yes. Just my point - "in places where there is significant community spread in the community from which the employees are drawn" it would be difficult to control. If it starts, it's hard to stop. So the secret is to block community spread from ever starting. But I agree that's easier in a small country than a large one.
Interestingly, this current prison outbreak of Covid is happening in an area (upper peninsula of Michigan. Marquette specifically) that's quite sparsely populated, and geographically pretty isolated. . . but believed to be somewhat more in "mask rebel" kind of region, oversimplifying the politics/sociology. It's in one of the parts of this state that's now seeing higher levels of virus (cases per population count).
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
You can't quarantine the guards and other workers for 14 days before each entrance to the prison.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
What about the guards and other people who work in the prisons?
Basic check on reporting for duty each day. Temperature checks and hand sanitizing before entering is the bare minimum at every institution around here, and you aren't allowed in to work if the temperature is above the threshold.
Also we expect honest declarations from persons who've traveled to high risk places while on holiday, before returning to work. I suppose you'd need some variation of this in countries where there's a lot of local spread.
People can be infectious with covid while asymptomatic, including not running a temperature. Perhaps this works in a country or region without significant community spread. It wouldn't work where I am (in the U.S.).
I think fitting people who won't obey a quarantine order with an ankle monitor that will start announcing very loudly "WARNING: I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO COVID. I COULD EXPOSE YOU TO COVID" if they leave their homes would be a good solution.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
I work in a jail and this is what is done. So far, two staff members have caught the virus and zero inmates.
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I think a big enough fine- which is REALLY enforced would really help with the ones who just won't wear a mask or w do what's needed. No prison- but a fine would make a difference5
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We've had fines in Australia for people not following the rules.
Fair enough too - a law is a law, just like you get fines for traffic offences etc.8 -
I came across this article today and I thought that it was worth posting the link in here since many people are anxious and worried about what to do with family and friends during the holidays.
Apart from personal choices and strong "holiday emotions," this well written article may provide same scientific information, opinions, and outlook to some of you, as it did to me. I think that it may be worth sharing the information with friends and love one as well. I did and I got positive responses so far, and I hope that you do too.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/health/reopening-coronavirus/visiting_family_friends.html5 -
@Gisel2015 - here is one that was just recommended on a hometown facebook group. I'll be checking yours out.
https://robinschoenthaler.medium.com/should-i-hold-thanksgiving-during-covid-e3393ac842c21 -
@Smoda61, thank you this is a good one and kind of funny too. I don't have an Aunt Petunia (I am too old to have any aunts running around even in wheelchairs...) to deal with, but husband and I are staying home on Thanksgiving 2020. Hard choices but necessary. Thank you for posting.
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@Smoda61, thank you this is a good one and kind of funny too. I don't have an Aunt Petunia (I am too old to have any aunts running around even in wheelchairs...) to deal with, but husband and I are staying home on Thanksgiving 2020. Hard choices but necessary. Thank you for posting.
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I spent a lot of the day talking with family members. It is likely going to be a small group ( 3 or 5 adults), yet to be determined.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »I do hope you all will be safe. Disagree whatever. I still think if you are fine spreading it around you deserve to be in jail.
I was the first person to disagree with your post about prison for those not complying. I don't believe that is the answer. So I disagree.
I social distance and wear a mask. I haven't been to a restaurant or inside a store since March. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are not doing the right thing. I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't prison.
Ditto.
If nothing else, prisons are generally great breeding grounds for contagious diseases. @mockchoc may think that's just karma, but this is a "no man is an island" situation -- you can't add to the pool of contagion and think you won't be untouched. In many places in the U.S., they were doing early paroles, release of nonviolent offenders, etc., to try to reduce prison crowding a few months back.
Prison wouldn't be a COVID19 problem if you put proper protocols in place for new entrants.
COVID test on entering, and 14 day confinement away from the other prisoners, followed by a second COVID test for confirmation.
I work in a jail and this is what is done. So far, two staff members have caught the virus and zero inmates.
Thanks for confirming. And I suppose those two staff members are off from work until recovery, also ALL other staff members tested for COVID, and active contact tracing executed in relation to the two who caught it. Here we would very quickly find out if any family members of those two staffers caught the virus.1 -
https://www.wkdzradio.com/2020/10/25/sunday-kentucky-covid-19-update/
From the news it sounds like Covid-19 number of cases are setting records in USA and Europe. The USA had some hot spots 6 months ago but now is wide spread with more nursing home involvement than ever in our region. Hope the talk of turning the corner in 2022 turns out to be correct.1 -
Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.21 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.wkdzradio.com/2020/10/25/sunday-kentucky-covid-19-update/
From the news it sounds like Covid-19 number of cases are setting records in USA and Europe. The USA had some hot spots 6 months ago but now is wide spread with more nursing home involvement than ever in our region. Hope the talk of turning the corner in 2022 turns out to be correct.
i am so hoping you meant to type 2021.2 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.
Hope your son continues to recover well.
After six years of eating for health I keep finding areas that I need to tweak. The added sugar thing still catches me off guard. After years I have gotten off of Half and Half because it causes sinus drainage and ran out of my Almond milk and grabbed some Coconut milk that was in the frig and I will be if it did not contain added sugar.3 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.
Within your son a speedy recovery, and happy for you that you now get a family Thanksgiving. Mine is shrinking by the day.
As for diabetes and COVID, my father who is a solidly overweight diabetic with multiple other comorbidities, claims that if other preexisting conditions are "controlled" (like his diabetes via medication) they are no longer an added risk. Makes no sense to me, but I know you @MikePfirrman are better at researching things than I so there is a topic for you to look at, and if my father is right, it might bring you some peace regarding your wife.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.wkdzradio.com/2020/10/25/sunday-kentucky-covid-19-update/
From the news it sounds like Covid-19 number of cases are setting records in USA and Europe. The USA had some hot spots 6 months ago but now is wide spread with more nursing home involvement than ever in our region. Hope the talk of turning the corner in 2022 turns out to be correct.
i am so hoping you meant to type 2021.
I wish that was the case but from the science side of things 2021 is expected to see more cases than in 2020 since herd immunity seems to be a pipe dream. The good news is death rates are way down but Covid-19 is expected to be around for decades like many other viruses that can not be well managed with vaccine attempts because they are moving targets. I have family and friends that swear Covid-19 will be over by 4 Nov 2020 in the USA but if they are not careful they may wind up being "dead" wrong and taking others with them.8 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.
Hope your son continues to recover well.
After six years of eating for health I keep finding areas that I need to tweak. The added sugar thing still catches me off guard. After years I have gotten off of Half and Half because it causes sinus drainage and ran out of my Almond milk and grabbed some Coconut milk that was in the frig and I will be if it did not contain added sugar.
Coffee was the first area we addressed. She was using non dairy creamers with lots of added sugar, then turning around and having a vegan protein drink with non-dairy milk with added sugar. We eat pretty healthy for dinner, but she found these non-dairy ice cream bars at night she was eating a lot of as well. Add to that alcoholic drinks and it was a lot more added sugar than anyone should have.
She's great about adjusting quickly and not complaining. I am as well, so I think we'll be pretty solid soon and I might just lose that last 10 pounds again that has alluded me since I hit my goal weight around 8 or 9 years ago!
We're gathering up all of our boxed, canned stuff with sugar and donating it this week to the food shelter down the road.7 -
@MikePfirrman I just finished reading Lifespan (2019) by David A Sinclair. Per it I have made a lot of right changes but as more research comes out there are more concerns that pops up on my radar. Pomegranate products have my attention currently as I doing some n=1 stuff for gut microbiome health concerns. Consuming a gallon a week rules out being in ketosis for sure but those are not empty carbs.1
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@MikePfirrman Showing signs, what did she notice first. Was she really tired, falling asleep at the drop of a hat. Did she notice any skin changes, on the sides of her feet, things like that? You're a good husband.1
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Diatonic12 wrote: »@MikePfirrman Showing signs, what did she notice first. Was she really tired, falling asleep at the drop of a hat. Did she notice any skin changes, on the sides of her feet, things like that? You're a good husband.
They just completed a full metabolic panel, so we don't have the results yet, but she was had elevated potassium (one sign), leg cramps at night often (from the potassium), anal itching (yeast from excess sugar not being digested), dry skin, tingling in her feet and calves. Always thirsty. These are just the ones I've taken mental note of.
She's not that tired or exhausted, so I'm guessing it's not that bad but pretty tell tail signs of early Type II. We have the appointment this week but why wait to change? We also found a really great doc here that loves to work with folks that are hyper proactive about taking responsibility for their health. He quit his old group because his patients were all about being put on meds and not changing any behaviors. That's not either of us. From what I'm understanding, you can't undo Type II, but you can certainly put it into remission, potentially permanently. She likes her sugar a lot more than she realized. I do too, for that matter, but I workout a ton, so it wasn't as evident with me. She's limited in how much physical working out she can do with the Fibro, which is pretty much in remission, but she can't workout more than 3 or 4 days a week.5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.wkdzradio.com/2020/10/25/sunday-kentucky-covid-19-update/
From the news it sounds like Covid-19 number of cases are setting records in USA and Europe. The USA had some hot spots 6 months ago but now is wide spread with more nursing home involvement than ever in our region. Hope the talk of turning the corner in 2022 turns out to be correct.
i am so hoping you meant to type 2021.
I wish that was the case but from the science side of things 2021 is expected to see more cases than in 2020 since herd immunity seems to be a pipe dream. The good news is death rates are way down but Covid-19 is expected to be around for decades like many other viruses that can not be well managed with vaccine attempts because they are moving targets. I have family and friends that swear Covid-19 will be over by 4 Nov 2020 in the USA but if they are not careful they may wind up being "dead" wrong and taking others with them.
There was no crying face to click.
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MikePfirrman wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.
Hope your son continues to recover well.
After six years of eating for health I keep finding areas that I need to tweak. The added sugar thing still catches me off guard. After years I have gotten off of Half and Half because it causes sinus drainage and ran out of my Almond milk and grabbed some Coconut milk that was in the frig and I will be if it did not contain added sugar.
Coffee was the first area we addressed. She was using non dairy creamers with lots of added sugar, then turning around and having a vegan protein drink with non-dairy milk with added sugar. We eat pretty healthy for dinner, but she found these non-dairy ice cream bars at night she was eating a lot of as well. Add to that alcoholic drinks and it was a lot more added sugar than anyone should have.
She's great about adjusting quickly and not complaining. I am as well, so I think we'll be pretty solid soon and I might just lose that last 10 pounds again that has alluded me since I hit my goal weight around 8 or 9 years ago!
We're gathering up all of our boxed, canned stuff with sugar and donating it this week to the food shelter down the road.
If she likes non-dairy/vegan milks and protein drinks, she can still have them. There are plenty of low and no added sugar versions. The stuff I use is all very low sugar. My protein powder has 1 gram of sugar. My nut milk has 2 grams. ⭐1 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Well, the son in San Diego (the one who had tons of friends not social distancing and some were actual science deniers) has caught it. He's been sick for a week. Had a hard time breathing for several days. We're talking a kid that got D1 offers for both wrestling and soccer and he stays in great shape. He's feeling better now, but just what we were concerned about for Thanksgiving proved accurate.
I suppose if there's good news he'll now be coming for Thanksgiving. We also find out this week if my wife is showing signs of early type II Diabetes. We're both in a much better place about that now. We've already changed about the only thing we hadn't cut out -- sugar and alcohol. I've read two books on diabetes and aside from that, we were already doing everything right. Just concerns me more about her potentially getting Covid-19, with that being a higher risk group.
Hope your son continues to recover well.
After six years of eating for health I keep finding areas that I need to tweak. The added sugar thing still catches me off guard. After years I have gotten off of Half and Half because it causes sinus drainage and ran out of my Almond milk and grabbed some Coconut milk that was in the frig and I will be if it did not contain added sugar.
Coffee was the first area we addressed. She was using non dairy creamers with lots of added sugar, then turning around and having a vegan protein drink with non-dairy milk with added sugar. We eat pretty healthy for dinner, but she found these non-dairy ice cream bars at night she was eating a lot of as well. Add to that alcoholic drinks and it was a lot more added sugar than anyone should have.
She's great about adjusting quickly and not complaining. I am as well, so I think we'll be pretty solid soon and I might just lose that last 10 pounds again that has alluded me since I hit my goal weight around 8 or 9 years ago!
We're gathering up all of our boxed, canned stuff with sugar and donating it this week to the food shelter down the road.
If she likes non-dairy/vegan milks and protein drinks, she can still have them. There are plenty of low and no added sugar versions. The stuff I use is all very low sugar. My protein powder has 1 gram of sugar. My nut milk has 2 grams. ⭐
Thanks Jenilla. We found a few of them she likes already. Her Protein Drink was great, it was the Chocolate DF milk she was using (and the bananas in it). All her milks and creamers now are free of added sugar. There will be some adjustments for sure!1 -
As for diabetes and COVID, my father who is a solidly overweight diabetic with multiple other comorbidities, claims that if other preexisting conditions are "controlled" (like his diabetes via medication) they are no longer an added risk.
I would say he is half right.
Being diabetic, even if well controlled, is still a risk factor - however well controlled diabetes is much less of a risk than poorly controlled diabetes.
obviously, really - but if that is what he meant, then fair enough5 -
paperpudding wrote: »As for diabetes and COVID, my father who is a solidly overweight diabetic with multiple other comorbidities, claims that if other preexisting conditions are "controlled" (like his diabetes via medication) they are no longer an added risk.
I would say he is half right.
Being diabetic, even if well controlled, is still a risk factor - however well controlled diabetes is much less of a risk than poorly controlled diabetes.
obviously, really - but if that is what he meant, then fair enough
@paperpudding I think I agree with your assessment. Controlled is better than not controlled. But controlled is not better than no diabetes.
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