Re Australia question Some people have second homes. They had to stay in one state if the borders were locked.
There were some exemption for essential travellers, but going to a holiday home was not one of them.
Same for us, here in Italy, you could not go to vacation homes. People would check and report you (everyone knows which homes are vacation). Police stopped cars on the road, and you had to have permission for where you were going--work, humanitarian (helping an elderly relative), etc. This was during Lockdown last spring. We are going into another Lockdown. The numbers keep climbing. My husband's cousins are all down with COVID. Luckily we haven't seen them for over 3 weeks.
Seeing all the Christmas displays coming out, my heart is just dropping scores. It will be a year since I've seen 2 of my 3 adult children; it was Christmas when they all stayed here with us for a few days. It was a chaotic heaven for me. One of our dds just drove 16 hrs. last month and stayed with us for a week. It was wonderful having her home. Our other dd lives across the states from us. Not sure what our ds will decide; he lives 80 miles away(so close and yet so far). His area has the highest number of cases in our state, being the most populated area.
What irks me is watching people disregard the severity of this virus, play it down in every way by not masking, no social distancing, calling it a farce, going about their merry way as if life is normal(???!!!), etc., and there will be no Christmas gathering as usual at our house because numbers are jumping like crazy everywhere. Even in our rural 'safe' state, there were 89 positive cases last week tied to a hockey game. Two local schools have reclosed for 2 weeks to quarantine everybody(like that'll happen) and deep clean.
I know there'll be more holidays to spend together. But what if, for one of us, there isn't? Memories can be wonderful. But memories can be a source of torture as well.
Just so sick of this. But hey, Happy Monday; another week so we get to do it all over again.
Re Australia question Some people have second homes. They had to stay in one state if the borders were locked.
There were some exemption for essential travellers, but going to a holiday home was not one of them.
Same for us, here in Italy, you could not go to vacation homes. People would check and report you (everyone knows which homes are vacation). Police stopped cars on the road, and you had to have permission for where you were going--work, humanitarian (helping an elderly relative), etc. This was during Lockdown last spring. We are going into another Lockdown. The numbers keep climbing. My husband's cousins are all down with COVID. Luckily we haven't seen them for over 3 weeks.
Oh no I hope your dh's cousins all recover quickly and without issues.
I’m pretty sure that people all over the US have vacation homes elsewhere. Here (Minnesota) many people winter in southern states, and have summer homes on lakes in Minnesota. At the time of lockdown, there were restrictions, but whether or not they were enforced, who knows. It’s pretty much go where you want within the US. The logistics for enforcement seem difficult. My sister has been to California several times during this to visit her grandchildren. I have a friend who leaves for 6 weeks in Arizona in two days. My husband’s cousin is leaving for Arizona until April on 11/15.
The airlines are going to be opening middle seating, if they haven’t already. Cruise lines are resuming sailing in US waters, with no passengers, yet. Does anyone remember how this started? It seems kind of hopeless sometimes.
We ended up not doing Halloween. My wife and I will normally sit at the end of our driveway and give out candy. We spent the night, instead, at a very nice restaurant with a huge outdoor courtyard that looks like you're in Italy. It was just beautiful. Our older dear friends down the street wanted to take me out for my B-Day, which is today.
They are the only friends that we socialize with and same with us for them. We both stay extremely vigilant, at all times, about not exposing ourselves and 100% mask compliance. Dinner was amazing, BTW. It also made my wife feel much, much better about Tucson. We got here last year and worked all year setting up the house, started enjoying it in Winter a bit, then Spring hit w/ Covid-19, we had wildfires all Summer, followed by 110 days of 100 degree temps, shattering the old weather records. Going to a new, beautiful place with a patio reinforces, to her, why we moved here.
We spent the rest of the evening back at our friends playing board games and chatting. They are in their late 70s. Though they are both in great shape, good health and have incredibly smart minds, they are terrified of Covid-19. They are mostly worried about cognitive issues that it could cause. For them, the worst thing would be catching Covid-19 and then having early onset dementia as a result. When older people open up about their worst fears, it really hits you.
Hope everyone stays safe this week. Have a feeling that this will be a very violent and scary week in the US. I plan on drinking quite a bit on Tuesday night. Hopefully, AZ will make pot legal on Tuesday -- we have a ballot initiative for up to six plants or one ounce on Tuesday's ballot. I could use some pot brownies on Tuesday.
Oh, big news too -- the wife's doc appointment went better than expected. The doc seemed pleased with her progress already on her blood work. He wants her to lose a little weight, but overall, was really impressed with how proactive we are related to exercise and diet. Her potassium was just under the "normal" reading but most of the rest of the numbers, including blood sugar, were now decent. So huge relief but we're continuing with eliminating most of our added sugars.
Hope everyone stays safe this week. Have a feeling that this will be a very violent and scary week in the US. I plan on drinking quite a bit on Tuesday night. Hopefully, AZ will make pot legal on Tuesday -- we have a ballot initiative for up to six plants or one ounce on Tuesday's ballot. I could use some pot brownies on Tuesday.
Oh, big news too -- the wife's doc appointment went better than expected. The doc seemed pleased with her progress already on her blood work. He wants her to lose a little weight, but overall, was really impressed with how proactive we are related to exercise and diet. Her potassium was just under the "normal" reading but most of the rest of the numbers, including blood sugar, were now decent. So huge relief but we're continuing with eliminating most of our added sugars.
Unfortunately agree with the possible violence.
Did have a question. If legal pot is on the ballot Tuesday where are you going to get the pot brownies on Tuesday ? In IL it took a while for the dispensaries to get up and running.
Hope everyone stays safe this week. Have a feeling that this will be a very violent and scary week in the US. I plan on drinking quite a bit on Tuesday night. Hopefully, AZ will make pot legal on Tuesday -- we have a ballot initiative for up to six plants or one ounce on Tuesday's ballot. I could use some pot brownies on Tuesday.
Oh, big news too -- the wife's doc appointment went better than expected. The doc seemed pleased with her progress already on her blood work. He wants her to lose a little weight, but overall, was really impressed with how proactive we are related to exercise and diet. Her potassium was just under the "normal" reading but most of the rest of the numbers, including blood sugar, were now decent. So huge relief but we're continuing with eliminating most of our added sugars.
Unfortunately agree with the possible violence.
Did have a question. If legal pot is on the ballot Tuesday where are you going to get the pot brownies on Tuesday ? In IL it took a while for the dispensaries to get up and running.
Good luck to your wife.
LOL, teasing about the pot. I didn't react well to it when I was younger. If it passes, we'll be able to grow 6 plants for personal use. I'd have to look more into it, as (I think) they are saying you'd have to have it in a locked cabinet, child proof, even if you don't have kids. And it can't be out in the open, which would actually make it quite easy to grow in AZ if you could put it in the open.
My wife qualifies now (with Fibro) for the pot if we bothered to get it medically now. But growing it would certainly be much cheaper.
Re Australia question Some people have second homes. They had to stay in one state if the borders were locked.
There were some exemption for essential travellers, but going to a holiday home was not one of them.
Same for us, here in Italy, you could not go to vacation homes. People would check and report you (everyone knows which homes are vacation). Police stopped cars on the road, and you had to have permission for where you were going--work, humanitarian (helping an elderly relative), etc. This was during Lockdown last spring. We are going into another Lockdown. The numbers keep climbing. My husband's cousins are all down with COVID. Luckily we haven't seen them for over 3 weeks.
Thanks. So both Australia and Italy are approaching things similar to parts of the US.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I’m pretty sure that people all over the US have vacation homes elsewhere. Here (Minnesota) many people winter in southern states, and have summer homes on lakes in Minnesota. At the time of lockdown, there were restrictions, but whether or not they were enforced, who knows. It’s pretty much go where you want within the US. The logistics for enforcement seem difficult. My sister has been to California several times during this to visit her grandchildren. I have a friend who leaves for 6 weeks in Arizona in two days. My husband’s cousin is leaving for Arizona until April on 11/15.
The airlines are going to be opening middle seating, if they haven’t already. Cruise lines are resuming sailing in US waters, with no passengers, yet. Does anyone remember how this started? It seems kind of hopeless sometimes.
I did not mean to imply that the northeast was the only area. I was just speaking to the region I am in and where people here tend to travel.
We happen to have three homes; Massachusetts, Maine, and Florida keys and have experienced restrictions at times during these months. In the Spring, the keys locked down their access with a checkpoint. To enter, one had to produce proof of ownership/residency. All renters already there, with less than a 1 month lease, were thrown out with couple day notice and one area (Key Colony) threw out anyone with less than a 3 month lease, even if you were already there and had been there since before COVID started. We returned to Mass beginning of May, and was required to quarantine 14 days even though Massachusetts was a higher risk state than where we just came from. Shortly there after, Maine began a moratorium on people coming into the state. If one entered, 14 day quarantine or proof of negative covid test was required. It applied to many states for the first 2 months, then only targeted Massachusetts the last. Now that the summer season is over, Maine has lifted their restrictions, but I fulling expect that they will put them back in place once ski season arrives. Massachusetts continues to have their own travel restrictions that requires anyone traveling from a state of higher COVID risk (not easy to look up - or at least for me) is required to 14 day quarantine or proof of negative covid test. Hubby just went through that last week after bringing his mother back to her home in Florida. He got home that Sunday night, quarantined until Wednesday for an incubation period and make the test useful, and then took his test. Thankfully negative. Current Massachusetts fine, if caught, is $500/day for not quarantining.
For flying, fly JetBlue for now. They are still blocking middle seats until end of year, and one statement sounded like into 1st quarter next year. Now, if they would stop handing my husband cheese-its for their pre-assembled snack. :P
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I think your definition of common sense and mine are very different. I'm not locked in my home. I go out to dinner, go to the grocery store. I went to Top Golf last week to enjoy a lovely day. We take drives, go for walks, bike ride, swim and have one couple we spend time with often. Wed and Saturdays are our nights out. We always dine outside and wear masks, even not when required. I actually wore a mask at Top Golf when the instructor was close and then took it off to hit balls. I think I actually wore it sometimes even hitting balls. It's a very small inconvenience. Trivial compared to what our first responders are doing.
The virus is not going away because everyone that has refused to wear masks and social distance. And "paper masks" are very effective at keeping others, as well as your family, safe. And if you do get it, can mean the difference between a mild case with a low viral load or an ICU unit.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
This is WHY it's not going away. It's frustrating that some of us haven't seen our family for months and other people are just going to the gym without masks. You can't even get a sense that "we're all in this together" because some people are acting like there is no "us" to even consider.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
This is WHY it's not going away. It's frustrating that some of us haven't seen our family for months and other people are just going to the gym without masks. You can't even get a sense that "we're all in this together" because some people are acting like there is no "us" to even consider.
So, wearing masks is going to make the virus magically disappear? People should wear masks during Flu season, maybe the Flu virus will go away.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I think your definition of common sense and mine are very different. I'm not locked in my home. I go out to dinner, go to the grocery store. I went to Top Golf last week to enjoy a lovely day. We take drives, go for walks, bike ride, swim and have one couple we spend time with often. Wed and Saturdays are our nights out. We always dine outside and wear masks, even not when required. I actually wore a mask at Top Golf when the instructor was close and then took it off to hit balls. I think I actually wore it sometimes even hitting balls. It's a very small inconvenience. Trivial compared to what our first responders are doing.
The virus is not going away because everyone that has refused to wear masks and social distance. And "paper masks" are very effective at keeping others, as well as your family, safe. And if you do get it, can mean the difference between a mild case with a low viral load or an ICU unit.
Common sense is good hygiene. I see people touch the keypad at a store, who has been touched by how many people, and not sanitized. Then touch their faces to remove their mask. A long with door handles, bags, etc. How many do you think sanitize? Or think about cross contamination? That's the real problem. The solution though, wear a thin paper mask. Unless you wear a hazmat suite or a respirator and goggles, then you really aren't protected. It's nothing but a feel good measure for the masses. Even the CDC can't make up their minds.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I think your definition of common sense and mine are very different. I'm not locked in my home. I go out to dinner, go to the grocery store. I went to Top Golf last week to enjoy a lovely day. We take drives, go for walks, bike ride, swim and have one couple we spend time with often. Wed and Saturdays are our nights out. We always dine outside and wear masks, even not when required. I actually wore a mask at Top Golf when the instructor was close and then took it off to hit balls. I think I actually wore it sometimes even hitting balls. It's a very small inconvenience. Trivial compared to what our first responders are doing.
The virus is not going away because everyone that has refused to wear masks and social distance. And "paper masks" are very effective at keeping others, as well as your family, safe. And if you do get it, can mean the difference between a mild case with a low viral load or an ICU unit.
Common sense is good hygiene. I see people touch the keypad at a store, who has been touched by how many people, and not sanitized. Then touch their faces to remove their mask. A long with door handles, bags, etc. How many do you think sanitize? Or think about cross contamination? That's the real problem. The solution though, wear a thin paper mask. Unless you wear a hazmat suite or a respirator and goggles, then you really aren't protected. It's nothing but a feel good measure for the masses. Even the CDC can't make up their minds.
I think you've been misled. Masks DO protect you and the people around you. This is a scientific fact, and the CDC HAS made up its mind. Anyone who tells you different has an agenda that does not include your health.
I don't understand how mask wearing makes touching a keypad or door handle worse than what you are doing btw. And I assume you don't necessarily see the person remove the mask, since they do so outside the store. I know I sanitize my hands before removing my mask, and assume others do as well.
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
This is WHY it's not going away. It's frustrating that some of us haven't seen our family for months and other people are just going to the gym without masks. You can't even get a sense that "we're all in this together" because some people are acting like there is no "us" to even consider.
So, wearing masks is going to make the virus magically disappear? People should wear masks during Flu season, maybe the Flu virus will go away.
Wearing seatbelts doesn't make car accidents "magically disappear," but most people still think it's a reasonable step to take. Why are the options "make it magically vanish" or "do nothing at all"?
I thought comparing this to the flu went out of style once we passed 100,000 dead in the US. Is it coming back now?
I started going back to the gym in July. I don't wear a mask. I use common sense and wipe everything down, like I did before. My family and I go out to eat as well. If the establishment didn't require a mask, I wouldn't wear one. The virus is not going away, and I'm going to live my life with common sense.
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I think your definition of common sense and mine are very different. I'm not locked in my home. I go out to dinner, go to the grocery store. I went to Top Golf last week to enjoy a lovely day. We take drives, go for walks, bike ride, swim and have one couple we spend time with often. Wed and Saturdays are our nights out. We always dine outside and wear masks, even not when required. I actually wore a mask at Top Golf when the instructor was close and then took it off to hit balls. I think I actually wore it sometimes even hitting balls. It's a very small inconvenience. Trivial compared to what our first responders are doing.
The virus is not going away because everyone that has refused to wear masks and social distance. And "paper masks" are very effective at keeping others, as well as your family, safe. And if you do get it, can mean the difference between a mild case with a low viral load or an ICU unit.
Common sense is good hygiene. I see people touch the keypad at a store, who has been touched by how many people, and not sanitized. Then touch their faces to remove their mask. A long with door handles, bags, etc. How many do you think sanitize? Or think about cross contamination? That's the real problem. The solution though, wear a thin paper mask. Unless you wear a hazmat suite or a respirator and goggles, then you really aren't protected. It's nothing but a feel good measure for the masses. Even the CDC can't make up their minds.
The CDC, though under tremendous pressure, has been mostly crystal clear as they learn the science. Since very early, they have said masks work well. I never remove my mask until I use my hand sanitizer in my car. I agree there are some that aren't doing that, but it's about more education and awareness, not letting our guards down. I use a paper towel whenever I open a door or use hand sanitizer after. Nearly all restaurants, if they don't have doors you can open up with your foot, have hand sanitizer after opening them up. If I have to touch a door, I'll use my sleeve or shirt if I have to.
I'm not in a hazmat suit. I don't use googles, but have glasses. I feel confident that I'll be able to either not get it or, if I do, it will be minimal. The biggest risk I'll face is when my daughter flies home for X-mas. But she's hyper vigilant and will wear a mask the entire flight.
I do worry, just a bit, about alcoholic drinks, when I go out. For the most part, we are ordering bottles and cans that aren't opened yet or minimize being touched.
You're right in that you can't be 100%, but you can sure minimize your risk. The CDC has said surfaces are less risky, but wash your hands often, don't touch your face or eyes when out and wear a mask. Fry's now has someone sanitizing keypads after every use.
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Same for us, here in Italy, you could not go to vacation homes. People would check and report you (everyone knows which homes are vacation). Police stopped cars on the road, and you had to have permission for where you were going--work, humanitarian (helping an elderly relative), etc. This was during Lockdown last spring. We are going into another Lockdown. The numbers keep climbing. My husband's cousins are all down with COVID. Luckily we haven't seen them for over 3 weeks.
What irks me is watching people disregard the severity of this virus, play it down in every way by not masking, no social distancing, calling it a farce, going about their merry way as if life is normal(???!!!), etc., and there will be no Christmas gathering as usual at our house because numbers are jumping like crazy everywhere. Even in our rural 'safe' state, there were 89 positive cases last week tied to a hockey game. Two local schools have reclosed for 2 weeks to quarantine everybody(like that'll happen) and deep clean.
I know there'll be more holidays to spend together. But what if, for one of us, there isn't? Memories can be wonderful. But memories can be a source of torture as well.
Just so sick of this. But hey, Happy Monday; another week so we get to do it all over again.
Oh no
The airlines are going to be opening middle seating, if they haven’t already. Cruise lines are resuming sailing in US waters, with no passengers, yet. Does anyone remember how this started? It seems kind of hopeless sometimes.
They are the only friends that we socialize with and same with us for them. We both stay extremely vigilant, at all times, about not exposing ourselves and 100% mask compliance. Dinner was amazing, BTW. It also made my wife feel much, much better about Tucson. We got here last year and worked all year setting up the house, started enjoying it in Winter a bit, then Spring hit w/ Covid-19, we had wildfires all Summer, followed by 110 days of 100 degree temps, shattering the old weather records. Going to a new, beautiful place with a patio reinforces, to her, why we moved here.
We spent the rest of the evening back at our friends playing board games and chatting. They are in their late 70s. Though they are both in great shape, good health and have incredibly smart minds, they are terrified of Covid-19. They are mostly worried about cognitive issues that it could cause. For them, the worst thing would be catching Covid-19 and then having early onset dementia as a result. When older people open up about their worst fears, it really hits you.
Hope everyone stays safe this week. Have a feeling that this will be a very violent and scary week in the US. I plan on drinking quite a bit on Tuesday night. Hopefully, AZ will make pot legal on Tuesday -- we have a ballot initiative for up to six plants or one ounce on Tuesday's ballot. I could use some pot brownies on Tuesday.
Oh, big news too -- the wife's doc appointment went better than expected. The doc seemed pleased with her progress already on her blood work. He wants her to lose a little weight, but overall, was really impressed with how proactive we are related to exercise and diet. Her potassium was just under the "normal" reading but most of the rest of the numbers, including blood sugar, were now decent. So huge relief but we're continuing with eliminating most of our added sugars.
Unfortunately agree with the possible violence.
Did have a question. If legal pot is on the ballot Tuesday where are you going to get the pot brownies on Tuesday
Good luck to your wife.
LOL, teasing about the pot. I didn't react well to it when I was younger. If it passes, we'll be able to grow 6 plants for personal use. I'd have to look more into it, as (I think) they are saying you'd have to have it in a locked cabinet, child proof, even if you don't have kids. And it can't be out in the open, which would actually make it quite easy to grow in AZ if you could put it in the open.
My wife qualifies now (with Fibro) for the pot if we bothered to get it medically now. But growing it would certainly be much cheaper.
LOL, my daughter took off of work Wednesday, to either recover from celebrating, or, being depressed.
I agree, it could get very nasty. Already some incidences.
I, on the other hand, will be watching Hallmark Christmas movies, and not turn on the news until Wednesday morning.
Thanks. So both Australia and Italy are approaching things similar to parts of the US.
I did not mean to imply that the northeast was the only area. I was just speaking to the region I am in and where people here tend to travel.
We happen to have three homes; Massachusetts, Maine, and Florida keys and have experienced restrictions at times during these months. In the Spring, the keys locked down their access with a checkpoint. To enter, one had to produce proof of ownership/residency. All renters already there, with less than a 1 month lease, were thrown out with couple day notice and one area (Key Colony) threw out anyone with less than a 3 month lease, even if you were already there and had been there since before COVID started. We returned to Mass beginning of May, and was required to quarantine 14 days even though Massachusetts was a higher risk state than where we just came from. Shortly there after, Maine began a moratorium on people coming into the state. If one entered, 14 day quarantine or proof of negative covid test was required. It applied to many states for the first 2 months, then only targeted Massachusetts the last. Now that the summer season is over, Maine has lifted their restrictions, but I fulling expect that they will put them back in place once ski season arrives. Massachusetts continues to have their own travel restrictions that requires anyone traveling from a state of higher COVID risk (not easy to look up - or at least for me) is required to 14 day quarantine or proof of negative covid test. Hubby just went through that last week after bringing his mother back to her home in Florida. He got home that Sunday night, quarantined until Wednesday for an incubation period and make the test useful, and then took his test. Thankfully negative. Current Massachusetts fine, if caught, is $500/day for not quarantining.
For flying, fly JetBlue for now. They are still blocking middle seats until end of year, and one statement sounded like into 1st quarter next year. Now, if they would stop handing my husband cheese-its for their pre-assembled snack. :P
I hope this means that if you or your family get sick, you will not seek medical attention and just 'live it out' at home.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in February. Yes, if one of us were to get sick, we would stay home. Like I said, common sense. I don't believe in thin paper masks. I don't believe in everyone just staying home. The virus is not going away.
I think your definition of common sense and mine are very different. I'm not locked in my home. I go out to dinner, go to the grocery store. I went to Top Golf last week to enjoy a lovely day. We take drives, go for walks, bike ride, swim and have one couple we spend time with often. Wed and Saturdays are our nights out. We always dine outside and wear masks, even not when required. I actually wore a mask at Top Golf when the instructor was close and then took it off to hit balls. I think I actually wore it sometimes even hitting balls. It's a very small inconvenience. Trivial compared to what our first responders are doing.
The virus is not going away because everyone that has refused to wear masks and social distance. And "paper masks" are very effective at keeping others, as well as your family, safe. And if you do get it, can mean the difference between a mild case with a low viral load or an ICU unit.
This is WHY it's not going away. It's frustrating that some of us haven't seen our family for months and other people are just going to the gym without masks. You can't even get a sense that "we're all in this together" because some people are acting like there is no "us" to even consider.
So, wearing masks is going to make the virus magically disappear? People should wear masks during Flu season, maybe the Flu virus will go away.
Common sense is good hygiene. I see people touch the keypad at a store, who has been touched by how many people, and not sanitized. Then touch their faces to remove their mask. A long with door handles, bags, etc. How many do you think sanitize? Or think about cross contamination? That's the real problem. The solution though, wear a thin paper mask. Unless you wear a hazmat suite or a respirator and goggles, then you really aren't protected. It's nothing but a feel good measure for the masses. Even the CDC can't make up their minds.
I think you've been misled. Masks DO protect you and the people around you. This is a scientific fact, and the CDC HAS made up its mind. Anyone who tells you different has an agenda that does not include your health.
I don't understand how mask wearing makes touching a keypad or door handle worse than what you are doing btw. And I assume you don't necessarily see the person remove the mask, since they do so outside the store. I know I sanitize my hands before removing my mask, and assume others do as well.
Wearing seatbelts doesn't make car accidents "magically disappear," but most people still think it's a reasonable step to take. Why are the options "make it magically vanish" or "do nothing at all"?
I thought comparing this to the flu went out of style once we passed 100,000 dead in the US. Is it coming back now?
The CDC, though under tremendous pressure, has been mostly crystal clear as they learn the science. Since very early, they have said masks work well. I never remove my mask until I use my hand sanitizer in my car. I agree there are some that aren't doing that, but it's about more education and awareness, not letting our guards down. I use a paper towel whenever I open a door or use hand sanitizer after. Nearly all restaurants, if they don't have doors you can open up with your foot, have hand sanitizer after opening them up. If I have to touch a door, I'll use my sleeve or shirt if I have to.
I'm not in a hazmat suit. I don't use googles, but have glasses. I feel confident that I'll be able to either not get it or, if I do, it will be minimal. The biggest risk I'll face is when my daughter flies home for X-mas. But she's hyper vigilant and will wear a mask the entire flight.
I do worry, just a bit, about alcoholic drinks, when I go out. For the most part, we are ordering bottles and cans that aren't opened yet or minimize being touched.
You're right in that you can't be 100%, but you can sure minimize your risk. The CDC has said surfaces are less risky, but wash your hands often, don't touch your face or eyes when out and wear a mask. Fry's now has someone sanitizing keypads after every use.