Coronavirus prep
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I disagree with you Mike. I live in the So. California desert and everything is blooming now, and so are the allergies.
The birds, the bees and the butterflies are having a feast in my garden, and the winds bring a lot of pollen trapped in the sand. I am using eye drops all the time and my nose and eyes are always running. Fluonase to the rescue at night...
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MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer. Maybe I'm relating too much to my son and wife, who've had terrible allergies over the years.
I am allergic to Spring and Fall and trust me, the Fall allergies are still happening. I start clearing up about the first snowfall, so I've got at least another month to deal with allergies. I have to be at the hospital a lot right now and am dosing up on flonase and cough drops just to not scare people with my sniffles and cough. I know it's not covid since my husband and I are tested every couple of weeks.10 -
I'm glad I live where there is no Covid because I have allergy issues 24/7 365 days a year pretty badly so everyone would think I have Covid with all my coughing and sneezing
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There’s a lot of different things that trigger allergy symptoms, no matter where you live. Pollen, animals, foods, dust, etc. Here, Minnesota, we have had frost most mornings, for well over a month. Deciduous trees are bare, vegetation is dormant, so pollen allergies are pretty much over until spring. Both my husband and daughter have ragweed allergies. We are glad that’s over. It’s stressful wondering whether it’s allergies or Covid-19. My sympathy to all allergy sufferers❤️11
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Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly9 -
paperpudding wrote: »Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly
Totally agree. Stay safe.6 -
paperpudding wrote: »Not directed at anyone in particular, general comment.
If you have hayfever, allergies, chronic sinusitis etc and are sneezing, runny nose etc as per your norm, no problem. (unless close contact but that goes for anyone anyway, regardless of symptoms)
As soon as anything deviates from your norm, get tested just in case.
The stance in Australia is get tested if you have symptoms, no matter how mild.
I am assuming that means if you have symptoms outside your norm.
I have mild hayfever and it is Spring here - I am not getting tested every time I sneeze like I do in Spring every year, that would be silly
Yeah, that's how I understand the policy where I live too (adding in some common sense, like symptoms out of the norm, as you said). Plus, of course, being tested if exposed to someone with it.4 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
Not quite true... some people including myself experience fall allergies and for me, my symptoms mimic covid. I have been tested weekly since I go to the allergist and have been negative.
Well, we are going out of allergy season for most unless it's pets, dander or dustmights. Most plant allergens are Fall and Spring as opposed to Winter/Summer. Maybe I'm relating too much to my son and wife, who've had terrible allergies over the years.
I am allergic to Spring and Fall and trust me, the Fall allergies are still happening. I start clearing up about the first snowfall, so I've got at least another month to deal with allergies. I have to be at the hospital a lot right now and am dosing up on flonase and cough drops just to not scare people with my sniffles and cough. I know it's not covid since my husband and I are tested every couple of weeks.
Our trees like to take for-ev-er to drop their leaves—it started in Sept and will *maybe* be (mostly) done in January. Things are still tenaciously clinging to life and off gassing some terrible noxious allergens and it never really stops bc our winter is a joke. It’s just rainy and cold but generally without enough real freezes to kill all the non evergreen plants/bugs. Seriously. Mosquitos at Christmas 🙄
So walking and biking through the trails here is horrible now—my eyes are watering and my sinuses about to explode. I had a blessed week-ish after ragweed mostly died off before this. Leaf mold is a thing. I used to laugh that My little brother was allergic to leaf mold. No more. Since moving to the mid South each season has brought some fresh demon plant to wreak havoc on my poor sinuses. It’s part of why my youngest isn’t at school this year—they made me take him to the dr for green snot last winter. The kid had snot every. Single. Day. From Nov-March, with no other symptoms. Dr unsurprisingly diagnosed allergies. So knowing how hyper vigilant people were likely to be this year, we decided it wasn’t worth the hassle for preschool. We’re just all in eye watering snot filled semi lockdown together, with a big box of tissues and industrial jugs of Zyrtec 😆10 -
I am in Iowa, too, & the statistics I am seeing is 94 out of 99 counties have a positivity rate of 15% or higher. Of those 94, 70 Are at 20% or higher, and 2 are greater than 30%. Not good here!12
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missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.
Chicago similarly has a strongly urged set of rules (basically a new stay at home that isn't currently mandatory) that includes celebrating Thanksgiving only with household members. It's a request, but not enforceable. As my sister and I both live alone and have been safe, we are getting together for a tiny gathering. At one point we were going to have a few others who had been safe, but now it's just the 2 of us. (Her SO was exposed and tested negative recently, but they are currently not seeing each other in person since he's working with covid patients and doesn't want to risk exposing her after the last scare.)7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Beautyofdreams wrote: »I live in Iowa where all the counties are over 10% positivity. We have the third highest positivity rate in the country, a republican controlled government and our "mask mandate" is essentially if you can't social distance inside for 15 minutes then you should wear a mask unless you are in church where they cannot be mandated. I am isolating as best as I can but family member that I live with is not.
I lived in Iowa my entire life until 2019 and still know a lot of people there. To say it is really bad there right now is an understatement.
However, I will point out that there is 1 county at less than 10% positivity for the most recent 7 days of data reported (Wed Jan 22 2020 - Thu Nov 19 2020). Lucas County is at 7.87% positivity for the 7 day average.
Dang... and here they are freaking out in NY over a 2-3% positivity and closing down.
There are 30 states that have a positivity rate of over 10% and no national policy. Some governors have implemented stricter policies. Here, in Minnesota, they went into effect at midnight. One of the edicts is only persons residing in a residence may celebrate Thanksgiving together. Enforcing this is questionable. We will see what happens in a couple of weeks. Sometimes it seems hopeless.
As another Minnesota resident, I don't see any indication that they're planning to enforce this at all. I think it's just meant to help guide behavior.
Agreed. My husband and I were just talking about it, and think the people that have been doing the right thing all along, will continue. The ones that haven’t been following guidelines will continue not following. The hospitals and health care workers will be the ones affected by irresponsible behavior. It’s very hard to understand why some can’t see the gravity of the situation.13 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I have no idea how accurate your statement is but, to both my dh and me, this has felt like most colds for us(thank goodness!). If numbers weren't popping here and if there hadn't been positive cases where dh works, I would've called anybody crazy for making us get tested. Well, not really, but YKWIM. We're definitely 2 of the lucky ones. Seeing pictures in the news of trucks packed with bodies makes it all too real of what it is in some places. 12 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!
I have no idea how accurate your statement is but, to both my dh and me, this has felt like most colds for us(thank goodness!). If numbers weren't popping here and if there hadn't been positive cases where dh works, I would've called anybody crazy for making us get tested. Well, not really, but YKWIM. We're definitely 2 of the lucky ones. Seeing pictures in the news of trucks packed with bodies makes it all too real of what it is in some places.
A nurse I know that works in a Covid unit recently mentioned that she can always tell when a new Covid patient comes in whether they will survive or not. She's guessed wrong only once. When asked how she can tell, her response was:It is by no means an exact science it’s typically a combination of past medical history, current health, ability and effort put forth to care for ones self, gender/age/ethnicity, prior living arrangements, weight and then instinct.4 -
So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...2
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rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Someone should make indoor litter boxes for dogs... like a big un-covered litter box with a fire hydrant in the corner or something.
ETA: I checked Amazon and apparently was not even close to the first person to come up with this idea. There are lots of options.2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Great question. I have cats, but weird ones. They get walked on leashes like a dog....2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
Good question.. 🤔Im not South Australian which is where that rule was supposed to be enforced for 6 days( scrapped now) Im in New South Wales.. but Im pretty sure if that rule was in place and you lived in an apartment block then you'd take your dog to the nearest patch of grass,( most blocks have grass somewhere) let it do its business, pick it up , put it in the bin and then back inside. It was only meant for the 6 day hard lockdown. Moot point now as the hard lockdown was stopped.
I mean that's my best bet of what they assumed people would do.. 🤷♀️ Im guessing though..6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
it wasnt Australians - it was only South Australians.
For 6 days - which got reduced to 3.
If you lived in an apartment with a dog, (which isn't going to be many people in South Australia) I guess you took it out to the backyard or lawn area of your building or on to the footpath, (sidewalk to americans) let it do its poo and then pick it up, bin it (as you should do all the time anyway) and go back inside.
Like slimjo said.
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USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.5
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missysippy930 wrote: »USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.
Thanks for that - interesting read. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/11/21/covid-and-thanksgiving-how-we-celebrated-during-1918-flu-pandemic/6264231002/
While looking for that one, I also found this one which is also interesting and sad: https://www.whio.com/news/trending/1918-flu-pandemic-letters-shed-light-how-similar-coronavirus-pandemic-is-past-outbreak/S4MMHFYC6RAP7AJ7KNK5TWAOVQ/3 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.
Thanks for that - interesting read. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/11/21/covid-and-thanksgiving-how-we-celebrated-during-1918-flu-pandemic/6264231002/
While looking for that one, I also found this one which is also interesting and sad: https://www.whio.com/news/trending/1918-flu-pandemic-letters-shed-light-how-similar-coronavirus-pandemic-is-past-outbreak/S4MMHFYC6RAP7AJ7KNK5TWAOVQ/
Wow. It really IS similar. It's almost like history repeating itself...thanks for the links.0 -
Italy--A famous historian was asked about past pandemics and he noted how similar they were with COVID. EVEN with modern medicine the course is similar. Modern man thinks he can beat this with science, whereas there was resignation and prayers in the past. It's frightening how this monster just keeps advancing.3
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6,255 new cases
48 new deaths
Only 23.5% State wide ICU beds still available
More ICU beds are being used for Covid then non Covid reasons
This is as of Saturday. Data has not been updated yet today.
My aunt posted something on Facebook that made me so upset. It was something about how you should take into account how this may be someone's last Thanksgiving when you are making the decision on if you should attend or not. How that is more important then skipping to keep others safe. This is the aunt I was supposed to have Thanksgiving with but bowed out because of safety reasons. Well, I guess I know how she really feels about my decision. Hurt to see that. Oh well. I will have my own dang celebration with my own meal and I will enjoy the hell out of it.
Went grocery shopping this weekend (normal stops and then a quick run to one of the Asian markets for something I needed for a recipe). I don't go to a big grocery store, only Aldi and Fresh Thyme with random visits to the Asian and Indian markets as needed. I also go as soon as they open on Saturdays. So it wasn't too busy, but Aldi did have more people there at open then normal. I was seeing a bit of a stock issues especially with bread, eggs, and paper products. Both stores had them, but stock was on the lower side of things. I'm still pretty stocked up though from my last Costco run. I did grab a thing of paper towels as I only have like half a Costco pack left. I also have plenty of meat (fish, steak, and chicken breasts at least), rice and noodles, soup, baking goods, and tea. So I can survive awhile if I need to just not shop for a bit.
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The folks at This Week in Virology are REALLY excited about mRNA vaccines. They looked at whatever public data was available for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and said that while it's still on a small scale, the numbers are far better than they expected. And there is a hint that even if someone who is vaccinated becomes infected, they will be more likely to have a mild case. And if both companies are able to produce the vaccine at the levels they are advertising, that will be impressive as well.
They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff
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The folks at This Week in Virology are REALLY excited about mRNA vaccines. They looked at whatever public data was available for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and said that while it's still on a small scale, the numbers are far better than they expected. And there is a hint that even if someone who is vaccinated becomes infected, they will be more likely to have a mild case. And if both companies are able to produce the vaccine at the levels they are advertising, that will be impressive as well.
They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff
Very interesting! I worked in a lab who was studying efficacy of mRNA influenza vaccines a few years ago. First we tested it on HEK293 cells and then proceeded to animals. One of the projects I worked on was testing the mRNA virus efficacy in preventing certain strains of flu in mice. We had great results and the group published quite a few papers on it. Their next big project was trying to get a grant to begin testing on human subjects. Haven't talked with them since I was a part of their lab a few years ago, but this reminded me I should email and see if they ever got the grant and what happened to the project.
It is a lot better because it allows you to change the vaccine more quickly than using DNA and thus better match the vaccine for certain mutations and strain variants faster. I wonder if future COVID vaccines will use this technology. I think it depends on how fast the virus mutates and how many different strains are actually going around. (Which I don't think they quite know yet.)6 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »The folks at This Week in Virology are REALLY excited about mRNA vaccines. They looked at whatever public data was available for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and said that while it's still on a small scale, the numbers are far better than they expected. And there is a hint that even if someone who is vaccinated becomes infected, they will be more likely to have a mild case. And if both companies are able to produce the vaccine at the levels they are advertising, that will be impressive as well.
They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff
Very interesting! I worked in a lab who was studying efficacy of mRNA influenza vaccines a few years ago. First we tested it on HEK293 cells and then proceeded to animals. One of the projects I worked on was testing the mRNA virus efficacy in preventing certain strains of flu in mice. We had great results and the group published quite a few papers on it. Their next big project was trying to get a grant to begin testing on human subjects. Haven't talked with them since I was a part of their lab a few years ago, but this reminded me I should email and see if they ever got the grant and what happened to the project.
It is a lot better because it allows you to change the vaccine more quickly than using DNA and thus better match the vaccine for certain mutations and strain variants faster. I wonder if future COVID vaccines will use this technology. I think it depends on how fast the virus mutates and how many different strains are actually going around. (Which I don't think they quite know yet.)
I'd bet projects like that will have a much better chance of getting grants as these first covid vaccines progress! They did mention something about flu vaccines, but I was lost in the scientific terminology weeds at that point
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They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff
Or even cancer
Here's a good story of the history of mRNA therapeutics
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/?utm_source=pocket-newtab&fbclid=IwAR0s8kjoK4AhcuewJe7QkbzfolGcxfsLtQUme12VTcoViyhw08au6ufiRtU
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6,255 new cases
48 new deaths
Only 23.5% State wide ICU beds still available
More ICU beds are being used for Covid then non Covid reasons
This is as of Saturday. Data has not been updated yet today.
My aunt posted something on Facebook that made me so upset. It was something about how you should take into account how this may be someone's last Thanksgiving when you are making the decision on if you should attend or not. How that is more important then skipping to keep others safe. This is the aunt I was supposed to have Thanksgiving with but bowed out because of safety reasons. Well, I guess I know how she really feels about my decision. Hurt to see that. Oh well. I will have my own dang celebration with my own meal and I will enjoy the hell out of it.
Went grocery shopping this weekend (normal stops and then a quick run to one of the Asian markets for something I needed for a recipe). I don't go to a big grocery store, only Aldi and Fresh Thyme with random visits to the Asian and Indian markets as needed. I also go as soon as they open on Saturdays. So it wasn't too busy, but Aldi did have more people there at open then normal. I was seeing a bit of a stock issues especially with bread, eggs, and paper products. Both stores had them, but stock was on the lower side of things. I'm still pretty stocked up though from my last Costco run. I did grab a thing of paper towels as I only have like half a Costco pack left. I also have plenty of meat (fish, steak, and chicken breasts at least), rice and noodles, soup, baking goods, and tea. So I can survive awhile if I need to just not shop for a bit.
I went food shopping at a Stop & Shop today, Monday, early afternoon. Didn't check paper products as I have plenty, and the only thing I noticed they were out of was pecans.
It was a little more crowded than usual, but not as crowded as a Market Basket on a Sunday during football season, which is always dreadful.
Sorry about your aunt Do you want to try to Zoom with family members?
This year I'll be giving thanks that everyone in my family is on the same page about COVID. And politics.12 -
kshama2001 wrote: »6,255 new cases
48 new deaths
Only 23.5% State wide ICU beds still available
More ICU beds are being used for Covid then non Covid reasons
This is as of Saturday. Data has not been updated yet today.
My aunt posted something on Facebook that made me so upset. It was something about how you should take into account how this may be someone's last Thanksgiving when you are making the decision on if you should attend or not. How that is more important then skipping to keep others safe. This is the aunt I was supposed to have Thanksgiving with but bowed out because of safety reasons. Well, I guess I know how she really feels about my decision. Hurt to see that. Oh well. I will have my own dang celebration with my own meal and I will enjoy the hell out of it.
Went grocery shopping this weekend (normal stops and then a quick run to one of the Asian markets for something I needed for a recipe). I don't go to a big grocery store, only Aldi and Fresh Thyme with random visits to the Asian and Indian markets as needed. I also go as soon as they open on Saturdays. So it wasn't too busy, but Aldi did have more people there at open then normal. I was seeing a bit of a stock issues especially with bread, eggs, and paper products. Both stores had them, but stock was on the lower side of things. I'm still pretty stocked up though from my last Costco run. I did grab a thing of paper towels as I only have like half a Costco pack left. I also have plenty of meat (fish, steak, and chicken breasts at least), rice and noodles, soup, baking goods, and tea. So I can survive awhile if I need to just not shop for a bit.
I went food shopping at a Stop & Shop today, Monday, early afternoon. Didn't check paper products as I have plenty, and the only thing I noticed they were out of was pecans.
It was a little more crowded than usual, but not as crowded as a Market Basket on a Sunday during football season, which is always dreadful.
Sorry about your aunt Do you want to try to Zoom with family members?
This year I'll be giving thanks that everyone in my family is on the same page about COVID. And politics.
I'm with you; I'll also be giving thanks that our adult children are being smart about it all. As their mom, it makes me feel a lot better.
@Athijade try to not your aunt's comment get to you. I know it must be hard but Covid has brought out the worst in a lot of people and everyone is coming to the end of their ropes with it. I know, speaking personally here, I truly thought things would be more back to normal by now and was looking forward to being together during Christmas. It's hard when it isn't the same as always. And realistically, you're being cautious and careful with everyone else's health. It shows you care and have a respect for this infection.12
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