Chris Brown- Have you forgiven him?

Who am I to judge Chris Brown? He did nothing to me. Only people who know what went down is Chris Brown and Rihanna, and quite frankly I think the truth lies somewhere between her version and his version. It's not up to me to judge, that's between the two of them.

Okay, so lets say your sister or mother or brother or father, were being abused by another family member. It doesn't matter right, because it didn't happen to you.

I didn't say it didn't matter because it didn't happen to me, YOU read that into what I said. But please don't twist my words. What I did say was it's not up to me to judge him. And ultimately it's not my judgement call.

I could really care less, his music is good and the boy can dance. People spend way too much time being involved in celeb's personal life. If you didn't know that he beat her up, no one would have an issue with him, unless you just really didnt like his music. So maybe people people should stop caring so much about people they will never have to deal with in real life anyway and focus on the reason he was/is famous in the first place and that is music. If you don't like his music then dont listen to it. I do think the girls on twitter are just ridiculous but that is their own issues.

I knew of a catholic priest who could give a wonderful, meaningful sermon.
And tell a joke? He was one funny guy. Kept us laughing.
Very talented....
And once you get past the fact that he molested 4 boys, it's no big deal.....

and did you know this priest? did he touch your life personally? if so then it's different than a celeb who you don't know so why do we care so much about what he or any celeb did? unless it affects you personally, people should learn to deal with their own realities and worry less about other people who they will never meet is all i'm saying.

As a victim of abuse I dont understand how people are tying say this is Rhianna's fault? So what she likes it kinky, that is different from getting the **** kicked out of her. It makes sick seeing people defend him. Also to all the people saying god this and god that, this has nothing to do with him. Chris brown is nothing more than a slug. He should be prison and not getting standing ovations.

And if you read my previous post, I said that you are entitled to do that, but those who choose to buy his music aren't condoning violence against women either just because they like the music he makes.

That's where we disagree.

Well his songs aren't about beating women so I really don't see how you make that connection. In the end, it is just about the fact that he is a celebrity and his life was televised for you to see. So now you know that he did something horrible, and that means that he should never be allowed to use his talents again.

I said, we as a society should stand up to people who beat their girlfriends and refuse to support them by buying their music. He can try all he wants. Supporting him supports domestic violence. It sends a pretty clear message to people that you can beat your girlfriend and for it to hit mainstream and for people to not care. Usher had to APOLOGIZE for calling Brown out. NO ONE would straight up say it was UNACCEPTABLE for it to happen, and now, 2 years later he's back at the Grammy's. How is that anything but society accepting domestic violence as something that happens and is to be ignored?

Look, we took our histories of abuse and went in different directions. Let's just be done.

how does supporting him mean supporting domestic voilence??
does supporting the president mean i support war and innocent lives being lost??

its not the same. i do not support chris brown, i believe what he done was morally wrong and believe that he will carry this around for the rest of his life

i do believe in 2nd chances. is that not what life is about, no???
has no poster ever made a mistake they wish they could change or didnt happen???
for those mistakes that were made, did no-one help you, forgive you, help you??

if that was the case that no-one was ever forgiven for deeds they made, this would be a sorry, sad world to live in.

again let me re-iterate..... i do not SUPPORT chris browns actions.

Wow. I'm amazed at all the "I'm not here to judge" talk! Especially from women! Is the word 'forgiven" the wrong word, maybe? For crying out loud, he beat the *kitten* out of his girlfriend (yes, we know he did it, come on, don't give me that crap ....) then he gets a standing ovation at the Grammy's. Isn't there something just off about that?

But you're right: I guess I better not judge either. Because if he had done that to MY daughter I would go beat the *kitten* out of him myself. :explode: So you won't judge me when I do, right? wtf.... stumbling away in confusion.....

I am also surprised by the number of women that back his behavior..

i dont back his behaviour AT ALL. its disgusting and agree it sould not be tolerated.

this isnt about what he has DONE in the past its about wither he has been forgiven, so to answer the OP question. yes. i have forgiven chris brown

And if you read my previous post, I said that you are entitled to do that, but those who choose to buy his music aren't condoning violence against women either just because they like the music he makes.

That's where we disagree.

Well his songs aren't about beating women so I really don't see how you make that connection. In the end, it is just about the fact that he is a celebrity and his life was televised for you to see. So now you know that he did something horrible, and that means that he should never be allowed to use his talents again.

I said, we as a society should stand up to people who beat their girlfriends and refuse to support them by buying their music. He can try all he wants. Supporting him supports domestic violence. It sends a pretty clear message to people that you can beat your girlfriend and for it to hit mainstream and for people to not care. Usher had to APOLOGIZE for calling Brown out. NO ONE would straight up say it was UNACCEPTABLE for it to happen, and now, 2 years later he's back at the Grammy's. How is that anything but society accepting domestic violence as something that happens and is to be ignored?

Look, we took our histories of abuse and went in different directions. Let's just be done.

how does supporting him mean supporting domestic voilence??
does supporting the president mean i support war and innocent lives being lost??

its not the same. i do not support chris brown, i believe what he done was morally wrong and believe that he will carry this around for the rest of his life

i do believe in 2nd chances. is that not what life is about, no???
has no poster ever made a mistake they wish they could change or didnt happen???
for those mistakes that were made, did no-one help you, forgive you, help you??

if that was the case that no-one was ever forgiven for deeds they made, this would be a sorry, sad world to live in.

again let me re-iterate..... i do not SUPPORT chris browns actions.

Let me re-iterate: Beating someone is never just a "mistake" it is a CRIME. Stop equating the two.

When you support Chris Brown it sends a message to society, "You can beat your girlfriend, Usher will apologize for calling you out on it, 2 years later you'll be at the Grammy's" Rather than saying, "You beat your girlfriend and American shunned you because you were so shameful and horrible that we stood up and said, 'You will NOT beat our women'"

Are you really so blind that you can't see that?

And if you read my previous post, I said that you are entitled to do that, but those who choose to buy his music aren't condoning violence against women either just because they like the music he makes.

That's where we disagree.

Well his songs aren't about beating women so I really don't see how you make that connection. In the end, it is just about the fact that he is a celebrity and his life was televised for you to see. So now you know that he did something horrible, and that means that he should never be allowed to use his talents again.

I said, we as a society should stand up to people who beat their girlfriends and refuse to support them by buying their music. He can try all he wants. Supporting him supports domestic violence. It sends a pretty clear message to people that you can beat your girlfriend and for it to hit mainstream and for people to not care. Usher had to APOLOGIZE for calling Brown out. NO ONE would straight up say it was UNACCEPTABLE for it to happen, and now, 2 years later he's back at the Grammy's. How is that anything but society accepting domestic violence as something that happens and is to be ignored?

Look, we took our histories of abuse and went in different directions. Let's just be done.

how does supporting him mean supporting domestic voilence??
does supporting the president mean i support war and innocent lives being lost??

its not the same. i do not support chris brown, i believe what he done was morally wrong and believe that he will carry this around for the rest of his life

i do believe in 2nd chances. is that not what life is about, no???
has no poster ever made a mistake they wish they could change or didnt happen???
for those mistakes that were made, did no-one help you, forgive you, help you??

if that was the case that no-one was ever forgiven for deeds they made, this would be a sorry, sad world to live in.

again let me re-iterate..... i do not SUPPORT chris browns actions.

Let me re-iterate: Beating someone is never just a "mistake" it is a CRIME. Stop equating the two.

When you support Chris Brown it sends a message to society, "You can beat your girlfriend, Usher will apologize for calling you out on it, 2 years later you'll be at the Grammy's" Rather than saying, "You beat your girlfriend and American shunned you because you were so shameful and horrible that we stood up and said, 'You will NOT beat our women'"

Are you really so blind that you can't see that?