November 2016 Running Challenge

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  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    After a failed pre-work run yesterday I had a failed post-work run. When my son was at soccer practice it was pouring rain and 33F. I love running in cold, and I love running in rain, but not cold rain. It was supposed to turn over to snow so I thought I'd get a run in later at night but by the time it did turn over to snow it was 10pm and I had just eaten.

    This morning's pre-work run was also a fail. I had a terrible headache so I stayed in bed. Hard telling when I'll get my runs in the rest of the week with all three kids home.

    So two weekends ago I bought my daughter a new pair of running shoes, and told her they were only for running. Guess what I saw on floor in the entry way after she came home from college...yep, her running shoes. I could tell from the dirt she had been wearing them more than just for running, if she even did do any running. I'm not happy and may tell her that's the last pair of running shoes I buy for her.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    All this talking about NRWLFW made me guiltily realise that I haven't done strength training in a while. I skipped it in the week before the marathon (because hey - if I don't get to run because of some taper/rest thingy, I'm not going to kill my legs with squats and lunges either), skipped it in the week after the marathon (same as above, only with "recovery" instead of "taper"), and somehow that was enough to forget about it completely.
    I don't know why it's so hard for me to establish a consistent strength training habit!

    I've been struggling with this lately. I was doing really well with NROLFW until I started getting shoulder pain that the doc said was bursitis. I did his prescribed advil/ice routine to reduce inflammation and then did a few half hearted body weight rounds. Felt fine but afraid to start NROLFW again in case it comes back. I bought another program this week & am planning to start it next week. It's a home program so I can do most of the exercises without moderation (which was the biggest challenge with NROLFW as I only have dumbbells).
  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
    Date:: :::: Miles :::: Nov total (goal = 75)
    11/01/16 :::: 5.7 :::: 5.7
    11/02/16 :::: 2.9 :::: 8.5
    11/03/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 10.7
    11/04/16 :::: 2.0 :::: 12.7
    11/05/16 :::: 6.4 :::: 19.1
    11/06/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 21.6
    11/07/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
    11/08/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
    11/09/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 24.0
    11/10/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 24.0
    11/11/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 26.5
    11/12/16 :::: 7.2 :::: 33.7
    11/13/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 36.8
    11/14/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 39.5
    11/15/16 :::: 5.6 :::: 45.1
    11/16/16 :::: 2.7 :::: 47.9
    11/17/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 47.9
    11/18/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 50.0
    11/19/16 :::: 7.3 :::: 57.3
    11/20/16 :::: 3.0 :::: 60.3
    11/21/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 62.9
    11/22/16 :::: 5.7 :::: 68.6

    I took advantage of the rec center by my mom's house as the weather was still kind of crappy. It's a nice facility! The indoor elevated track was so much nicer than running on a treadmill. It was not crowded this morning, with only a few walkers who (mostly) stayed in their inside lane and a couple of runners. I ran for an hour and it felt really good. That's good, because I'm headed out for lunch and out for dinner tonight.

    I will go pick up my race packet this afternoon, then I'm whipping up a batch of homemade Bailey's Irish Creme. We'll see how that goes but it is my go-to plan for getting through a potentially tense family holiday. LOL - it will be fine if we can avoid politics and religion at all costs.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    November walking miles

    1---6.24 
    2---travel/pt/doc
    3---3.1 walk, 25 minute swim, 2.8 walk
    4--- travel
    5---3.19
    6,7,8--- Nada, pt, Nada
    9---4.7
    10---4.77
    12---3.0
    14---4.45
    15---4.4, 0.1x2
    16---4, pt, 0.1x3
    17--- 5.16 walk
    18---3.71, 0.1x1
    19,20,21---nada, skiped PT, nada
    22---3.60, 0.1x1
    23---4.20 0.2x3 whoo! So happy after yesterday's suckfest. I was released to go back to work, so maybe I'll dig in to a routine now.

    57.36/50+

    Not Advisable races:
    12/11/16 BMW Dallas Marathon, Half (registered) DNS
    Run the year 2016  898.42/ 2016 (DNF)

    Advisable races:
    March 19th 2017 RNR Half Dallas, TX
    March 26th 2017 A2A 5k Ardmore, OK
    April 30th 2017 OKC Memorial Marathon, Half
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited November 2016
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    So two weekends ago I bought my daughter a new pair of running shoes, and told her they were only for running. Guess what I saw on floor in the entry way after she came home from college...yep, her running shoes. I could tell from the dirt she had been wearing them more than just for running, if she even did do any running. I'm not happy and may tell her that's the last pair of running shoes I buy for her.

    Maybe she needs some walking around shoes too? Or just bonding with them. :wink:
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    edited November 2016
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    So two weekends ago I bought my daughter a new pair of running shoes, and told her they were only for running. Guess what I saw on floor in the entry way after she came home from college...yep, her running shoes. I could tell from the dirt she had been wearing them more than just for running, if she even did do any running. I'm not happy and may tell her that's the last pair of running shoes I buy for her.

    Maybe she needs some walking around shoes too? Or just bonding with them. :wink:

    Perhaps this.

    I'm starting to get ashamed of how many shoes I am starting to have... and I just bought 2 pair last weekend because I needed some new walking around shoes and they had a special for 1/2 off your 2nd pair. Prior to that, I bought a new pair of hiking boots less than 1 month ago. Problem is that I never seem to get rid of the old. My old hiking boots have a hole in one of them... I have worn them only once since buying the new, but why can't I bring myself to throw them out? The old "walking around" shoes are now my "yard work" shoes - the reason I needed new is that they are very worn and they are stained from lawn mowing anyway. It just seems like I now have so many shoes - 3 formal (at varying levels of fancy), 2 hiking boots, 1 work boots, 1 yard work, 1 road running, 1 trail running, 1 gym, and 1 everyday walking around / shopping / whatever.

    ETA: Oh yea... and a "walking around in house, but not something I would wear in public" pair... not slippers, technically. And I have a pair of water shoes and flip flops. Listing these out makes me feel even worse. It's crazy. I probably should get a shoe organizer.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @midwesterner85 I have 2 old pair for walking/yard, a 3rd pair for walking/running, and a 4pr on the way. I chunk my old ones or drop them in the donation bin if the shoes is good but I don't like 'em. My daughter is like the shoe nazi, accuses me of hording shoes. :blush:

    There is an emergency pair in my trunk(and swim, bike run clothes), because you never know when you might be able to run.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    @Elise4270 Each of my shoes is different and has something in the design (or in the case of yard shoes, how it has been used) to be provide benefit in particular situations (or to look appropriate in such situations). I could eliminate a few pair, but would still have more than you have.
  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
    Just a quick check in because I need to sleep. So tired! Went for my second run with my new running club tonight though and it was great. I ran with the middle group this time and it was perfect challenge/pace etc for me :)

    November Running Challenge

    2nd - 4.05 miles
    3rd - 4.27 miles
    5th - 4.60 miles
    6th - 7.28 miles
    7th-12th - injured
    13th - 5.37 miles
    15th - 3.20 miles
    16th - 3.40 miles
    18th - 3.08 miles
    19th - 8.38 miles
    20th - 4.03 miles
    22nd - 3.01 miles
    23rd - 5.50 miles

    MTD - 56.17/80* miles
    *Adjusted down due to injury

    Upcoming races:
    17th Dec - Lee Valley VeloPark Half Marathon
    9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    I am finally caught up on all the goings on here! I love seeing what everyone in the US is planning for Thursday. Is anyone planning to hit the stores for Black Friday? I have to work but I may do some online shopping.

    I realized today that I will not make my 1500 mile goal this year. I had too many months under 100 miles with my hand surgery and then injuries of late. Last year when I did make it I did not have a month under 100. I guess it can be my goal again for next year :) I will make it to 2000KM though to double up my MapMyRun You vs the Year 1000KM in 2016 challenge!

    I see lots of discussion on the Brooks Ghosts - has anyone tried New Balance- I am considering the Rush v2 and also the 730 v3's?

    @kristinegift - I have not tried NROLFW but I have worked out with a trainer 2xWeek for the last 5 years. He was actually the one who got me running. He is on vacation in Thailand this month and I am supposed to be working out on my own either at the gym or at home with my own weights and I have done exactly how many workouts??? Yup - none! I know what to do, I know how to do it and with the correct form but actually doing it on my own - I just can't get motivated. This 'break' has reinforced why I have him kept with him all these years :laugh:
    @lporter229 - I was going to sign up for a Turkey Trot but I really don't want to have to deal with the traffic and crowds so I will be heading out for my own 10k and then come home and finish my cooking. I am making pies today so that part will already be finished.
    @midwesterner85 - I don't seem to be able to get rid of my old shoes or the ones that just don't work out either. I keep thinking maybe something will change and they will be ok the next time I try them, or I can wear them to the gym or maybe my daughter will want them. I have put most all of the ones I no longer use in the closet in my daughter's old room and they just keep piling up in there. I also keep thinking maybe I will give them to a running shoe recycle, but never seem to find one or when there is one at a race I don't have my shoes to give with me...
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    @katharmonic recipe for Baileys please?!!!!

    And shoes? Nah, you got nuffink on me. From memory-

    Formal heels/strappy sandals not sure, about seven pairs?
    Boots - knee high, one (only one?)
    Boots snow- one
    Boots ankle - four
    Dance shoes - two heels, three flat
    Miscellaneous shoes flat for wandering around, dunno, ten pairs?
    Trail running shoes, one pair,
    Road running shoes, one pair,
    Trainers for gym, two pairs
    Walking/hiking shoes/boots, two pairs (one mid, one low cut)
    Shoes to wear to work, two
    Leopard print - just the one sadly.

    From the sound of it the rest of you are rank amateurs. :)
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @girlinahat off-hand I'd say I have 6 running shoes, 4-5 walking (some are now yard work shoes) 2 crosstrainers, 3 tall boots, 3 ankle boots, 1 snow boots, heels in black/brown/nude/leopard/red, sandals in white/brown/black, black flats......that's probably not all. Lol

    I've been off work this week, very busy but not exercising in any way. I've been resting the shin splints but then Sunday my foot started hurting! Aargh. Last run was Friday. Definitely will try tomorrow and see how the shin and foot feel but keep thinking about trying it tonight.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Ok this shoe count discussion could get dangerous! I didn't think I had that many until I started thinking about what @girlinahat and @greenolivetree listed... yup I have that many, have more, have more, have more...etc... UH-OH!!
    Road Running in current rotation - 5
    Road Running out or relegated to other - 5 (thought there were more actually)
    Trail Running - 1 (for agility)
    Training/gym - 3
    Flats and casual business shoes - 14
    Sandals - 8 (including my oofos recovery sandals
    Tall boots - 2
    Short boots - 5
    Snow boots - 2
    Dress heels - 7 (sorry no leopard!)

    Ugh... I shouldn't have done this! It just proves what I didn't want to admit - I have too many shoes!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    Ok this shoe count discussion could get dangerous! I didn't think I had that many until I started thinking about what @girlinahat and @greenolivetree listed... yup I have that many, have more, have more, have more...etc... UH-OH!!
    Road Running in current rotation - 5
    Road Running out or relegated to other - 5 (thought there were more actually)
    Trail Running - 1 (for agility)
    Training/gym - 3
    Flats and casual business shoes - 14
    Sandals - 8 (including my oofos recovery sandals
    Tall boots - 2
    Short boots - 5
    Snow boots - 2
    Dress heels - 7 (sorry no leopard!)

    Ugh... I shouldn't have done this! It just proves what I didn't want to admit - I have too many shoes!

    WOW! Haha!
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @shanaber I've never actually worn the leopard heels. Lol!
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    Ok this shoe count discussion could get dangerous! I didn't think I had that many until I started thinking about what @girlinahat and @greenolivetree listed... yup I have that many, have more, have more, have more...etc... UH-OH!!
    Road Running in current rotation - 5
    Road Running out or relegated to other - 5 (thought there were more actually)
    Trail Running - 1 (for agility)
    Training/gym - 3
    Flats and casual business shoes - 14
    Sandals - 8 (including my oofos recovery sandals
    Tall boots - 2
    Short boots - 5
    Snow boots - 2
    Dress heels - 7 (sorry no leopard!)

    Ugh... I shouldn't have done this! It just proves what I didn't want to admit - I have too many shoes!

    Oh, right... I have snow boots. How could I have forgotten?!

    You still have me beat, though.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    Ok this shoe count discussion could get dangerous! I didn't think I had that many until I started thinking about what @girlinahat and @greenolivetree listed... yup I have that many, have more, have more, have more...etc... UH-OH!!
    Road Running in current rotation - 5
    Road Running out or relegated to other - 5 (thought there were more actually)
    Trail Running - 1 (for agility)
    Training/gym - 3
    Flats and casual business shoes - 14
    Sandals - 8 (including my oofos recovery sandals
    Tall boots - 2
    Short boots - 5
    Snow boots - 2
    Dress heels - 7 (sorry no leopard!)

    Ugh... I shouldn't have done this! It just proves what I didn't want to admit - I have too many shoes!

    No such thing as too many shoes. But DH's rule is I have to toss or donate a pair if I bring in a new pair.....
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    I have like 4 pairs of shoes. I am not a typical female. I just don't get the whole shoe obsession thing.

    Today, depression is kicking my *kitten*. I've been crying on and off all day. I cried all the way home from work. I got home and ran 6.2 miles and that was the only time I felt okay. Then as soon as I stopped running, the depression came back. And now I am sitting here trying not to cry again.

    I'm supposed to go with my boyfriend to see his aunt and uncle tomorrow. They live out in the country, which might be a nice diversion from my miserable life. I have to work on Friday. I have the weekend to myself, which could be very dangerous for my depression. Making sure I get some good mileage in on those days so at least I have a little respite.

    I am really hoping I come out of this crap soon. I really don't want to end up in the hospital again.

    Sorry to go on like this, but I really don't have any good place to vent.
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Oh, and all my shoes are black.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @RespectTheKitty big hugs! Message me anytime if you need an ear :) Good for you getting that 10k run!
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    Rest day today. Feel great, but am not running. Saw my podiatrist, did laundry, baked a sweet potato pie for tomorrow. Tomorrow morning I'll get up early and go run a 10K. I'm guessing I'll be able to run it at T or slightly slower, say a 42 to 44 minute time.

    @shanaber - I won't shop Black Friday for the sake of shopping, but the local Fleet Feet has a Waffle Run that morning. If I'm not too beat up from the 10K tomorrow, I'll go to the Waffle Run and see what's on sale. A couple years ago they had GU for 30% off. Most of the sales on clothing are stuff I don't need, or simply marked down from "You've got to be *kitten* me!" to "An argument could be made that quality deserves a premium price." But once in a while I might see something I need at a price that is reasonable. Maybe I'll find another $10 singlet. (Forget shoes. What's on sale won't be in my size.)
  • Agator82
    Agator82 Posts: 249 Member
    Goal: 30 Mi

    11/02/2016: 4.5 Mi Total, 2.75 Mi Running
    11/06/2016: 3.0 Mi Total, 2.00 Mi Running
    11/07/2016: 3.2 Mi Total, 2.50 Mi Running
    11/09/2016: 4.0 Mi Total, 3.00 Mi Running
    11/11/2016: 2.5 Mi Total, 2.00 Mi Running
    11/14/2016: 4.5 Mi Total, 3.00 Mi Running
    11/16/2016: 3.1 Mi Total, 2.50 Mi Running
    11/18/2016: 3.5 Mi Total, 2.70 Mi Running
    11/21/2016: 2.8 Mi Total, 1.00 Mi Running
    11/23/2016: 3.7 Mi Total, 1.30 Mi Running

    Distance Left: 7.25 Mi

    Doing a couple of sessions of higher intensity intervals, probably will work on some longer runs again soon to close the gap to 30 Mi.
  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited November 2016
    @RespectTheKitty HUGS from me too!

    I'm not a "girl" either. Only sneakers fit me. My foot is too narrow for women's dress up shoes. I struggle with the girl stuff. I don't own make up, or earrings.. I think I'm just to funny looking dressed up like a girl. I hate boobs, awful things that just get tender, oogled, and get in the way. Horrible since mine seem to be getting bigger... :unamused:
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    November running challenge.

    Still working on my base....going to increase to 10 miles per outdoor running....and, for treadmill...rolling hills with intermittent speed drills.

    November 1st.....Moody Blues concert
    November 2nd....9 miles at average max heart rate of 77%. Temperature was in the 70's, head wind on mile 4, started going faster instinctively, then remembered that these were to be slow miles working on my base. Noted sore hamstrings and glute muscles at miles 6 onward.
    November 3rd....rest day (dentist)
    November 4th...rest day
    November 5th..rest day...Breeder's Cup racing on TV
    November 6th...9 miles at average max heart rate of 77%.
    November 7th...work
    November 8th....4.04 miles on the treadmill, rolling hills...max heart rate of 79%. Still training in the zone...3 hours of sleep after working all night. 50 minutes of weight lifting session.
    November 9th....6 miles outdoors.
    November 11th....4.54 miles, rolling hills at max heart rate of 81%. Only 4 hours of sleep after working all night. May be my last run for the week due to family coming to Indiana, then busy work week afterward.

    November 18....So unable to run for a week. Had a great visit with my mother and sister, and I bought a new student flute (at an antique shop). Woo hoo! Then 3 nights at work. 8 miles. Left leg with tightness and steady ache...felt wooden.

    November19...rest day....still walking with a limp, tightness in left leg.
    November 20...rest day....Tylenol didn't work. Still with a lot of aches in both hips. Tried ibuprofen....much better.
    November 21....3 miles...left leg started tightening again on mile 3....only had time for 3 miles after my dentist appointment.
    November 22.....4 miles....a little warmer day...43 degrees. Just running by "feel"....running fast enough to sing America the Beautiful...with some vibrato, think Burt Lahr of miles"The Wizard of Oz".
    Legs felt much better...attributed pain with inflammation.

    November 23.....6 miles.....ran it in steady rain and light drizzle....left leg tightened mile 3, better by mile 5. Feet were wet the whole time, wet soggy socks and shoes. Unpleasant experience.

    May not make goal. Running out of time.
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    25 kilometers
    5 donut shops.

    I'm in!

    http://jordanhanlon.com/donut-day-25k/

    2015-Donut-Run-17-Mile-Course.jpg

    Looks like so much fun! The weather in Minnesota is always great....love it!
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    I have like 4 pairs of shoes. I am not a typical female. I just don't get the whole shoe obsession thing.

    Today, depression is kicking my *kitten*. I've been crying on and off all day. I cried all the way home from work. I got home and ran 6.2 miles and that was the only time I felt okay. Then as soon as I stopped running, the depression came back. And now I am sitting here trying not to cry again.

    I'm supposed to go with my boyfriend to see his aunt and uncle tomorrow. They live out in the country, which might be a nice diversion from my miserable life. I have to work on Friday. I have the weekend to myself, which could be very dangerous for my depression. Making sure I get some good mileage in on those days so at least I have a little respite.

    I am really hoping I come out of this crap soon. I really don't want to end up in the hospital again.

    Sorry to go on like this, but I really don't have any good place to vent.

    So sorry that you are dealing with so much depression...cyberhugs! I am glad that you have found something to help (running).
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    So two weekends ago I bought my daughter a new pair of running shoes, and told her they were only for running. Guess what I saw on floor in the entry way after she came home from college...yep, her running shoes. I could tell from the dirt she had been wearing them more than just for running, if she even did do any running. I'm not happy and may tell her that's the last pair of running shoes I buy for her.

    Maybe she needs some walking around shoes too? Or just bonding with them. :wink:

    Perhaps this.

    I'm starting to get ashamed of how many shoes I am starting to have... and I just bought 2 pair last weekend because I needed some new walking around shoes and they had a special for 1/2 off your 2nd pair. Prior to that, I bought a new pair of hiking boots less than 1 month ago. Problem is that I never seem to get rid of the old. My old hiking boots have a hole in one of them... I have worn them only once since buying the new, but why can't I bring myself to throw them out? The old "walking around" shoes are now my "yard work" shoes - the reason I needed new is that they are very worn and they are stained from lawn mowing anyway. It just seems like I now have so many shoes - 3 formal (at varying levels of fancy), 2 hiking boots, 1 work boots, 1 yard work, 1 road running, 1 trail running, 1 gym, and 1 everyday walking around / shopping / whatever.

    ETA: Oh yea... and a "walking around in house, but not something I would wear in public" pair... not slippers, technically. And I have a pair of water shoes and flip flops. Listing these out makes me feel even worse. It's crazy. I probably should get a shoe organizer.

    I can totally relate to this....too many shoes....I will throw the ones with holes away. I have a shoe tree (organizer) but still so many that the organizer can't hold all of them.Like you, my old shoes become yard shoes. Only 2 pair of running shoes thus far!

    Say, anyone else collect outerwear....I have quite the collection.. I just drool over a pretty coat.
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    edited November 2016
    @midwesterner85 @Elise4270 @shanaber @girlinahat @greenolivetree

    This Shoe Addiction thing could be a real problem.
    But none of us could beat Poppetsmaster - for those that remember him. Miss his "cut the BS Wit".

    I think I have a problem. Quick call Shoes Anonymous - SA??

    Running shoes
    6 pairs in the closet - still in boxes. 1 trail & 5 road ( 2 are new this week $84.00 total = $42.00/pair :) )
    6 pairs in rotation 2 trail & 4 road - one of the road pairs will be retired before Christmas
    2 Ice screw pairs waiting for Crappy Weather-Trails. They don't get a lot of Km's on them.
    2 Retired to Yard - shop - walk about shoes.

    Dress
    3 pairs 2 black 1 brown - leathers - one of the blacks should go to the Shoe Drive.
    1 Cowboy Boots - everyone needs *hit kicker*

    Work & other
    2 pairs in closet
    2 pairs in rotation
    1 pair @ work for Quick Change - Replacement
    1 pair Steel Toe 10" Rise Leathers @ work
    1 pair Steel Toe Winter MukLuk style @ work
    2 pairs Hiking Boots 6" rise
    3 pairs sandals
    1 pair water Booties
    Do Ski Boots Count??
    2 Downhill
    1 Crosscountry

    Yikes that is a lot of shoes.

    4 pairs of Retired shoes ( Hiking, running, work ) waiting for the Local Charity " Peru Shoe Drive " to kick off.

    No Leopard Skin Boots :) or Undies B) for me.

    Since I have Duck Feet - Wide Toes & Small Heel when I find a shoe/style that fits I tend to Overbuy as in the past I have had a shoe fail and been forced to buy what ever I could find in our small town that was " close to a good fit"
    Much nicer when you can open the closet and shop for the required footwear

    No run today was out of town for work so after 9 pm when I got back and just didn't have the Mental Drive to get out and go.
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