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i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.14 -
i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
How many times is that said with extra disclaimers about eating nutrient dense foods most of the time though? (pretty sure it's most of the time)9 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
How many times is that said with extra disclaimers about eating nutrient dense foods most of the time though? (pretty sure it's most of the time)
And I've never seen ANYBODY preach that one should just drink beers all day long and then go lift with progressive overload in the gym. Not once. Ever. Talk about a ridiculous strawman argument.20 -
i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.10 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
How many times is that said with extra disclaimers about eating nutrient dense foods most of the time though? (pretty sure it's most of the time)
And I've never seen ANYBODY preach that one should just drink beers all day long and then go lift with progressive overload in the gym. Not once. Ever. Talk about a ridiculous strawman argument.
i said the people who preach food is food should do that
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jseams1234 wrote: »jseams1234 wrote: »Heres one: If you don't break a sweat during your workout you aren't working out.
I find it amazing that so many out-of-shape people in my gym never seem to experience any discomfort and can walk out as clean and as dry as they walked in.
... or maybe it's just me. I end up looking like a miserable wet dog even on days where it's all weights and no cardio. lol
... or maybe they are in shape and I'm out of shape. hmmmmm
I row regularly in a double (2-person rowing shell), with two different people. Me, I sweat like a lawn sprinkler. I'm that wet dog. M, my most frequent double partner, also sweats copiously. J, the other partner, might sweat a little if it's 90+ degrees F, otherwise, not much. Boat speed similar. Fitness pretty similar. I think all of us are getting a similarly good workout. I worry that J could have health issues if it's really hot outside, though. So far, hasn't happened.
I've read about it - many causes. Some genetic and some health related. A lot of people are just not hydrated enough which will cause less sweating. I'm mostly talking about the people I see reading books on the treadmill walking 1mph or people doing 1 set per machine at 30% 1RM thinking they are workin' it.
I don't know, on recovery days I walk leisurely listening to audiobooks (I do sweat because I'm prone to sweating in the summer during even the lightest activities). 2 hours of that a day gives me 500 extra calories, is very beneficial for my health without stressing joints, and keeps my walking endurance up for hikes. To me, any sort of activity for any length of time is good, as long as you're not delusional about what it is you are doing and how much you are burning doing it (you are NOT burning 1000 calories doing 30 minutes of bootcamp no matter how hellish it feels).7 -
i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everybody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"5 -
i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everbody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"
Food is food.12 -
i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everbody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"
Nobody preaches food is food. People say to not label foods good or bad, with the added disclaimer I mentioned earlier. Completely different.8 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.
u claim that u read every post?1 -
Except for me! Lollivingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everbody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"
Nobody preaches food is food. People say to not label foods good or bad, with the added disclaimer I mentioned earlier. Completely different.
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everbody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"
Nobody preaches food is food. People say to not label foods good or bad, with the added disclaimer I mentioned earlier. Completely different.
i guess u read EVERY posting in every thread from day one.0 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.
u claim that u read every post?
I've been here awhile, there are lots of very knowledgeable people here and some that don't know what they are talking about. So yea, the knowledgeable here would never say go drink beers all day then hit the gym.8 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.
u claim that u read every post?
I've been here awhile, there are lots of very knowledgeable people here and some that don't know what they are talking about. So yea, the knowledgeable here would never say go drink beers all day then hit the gym.
i m sorry but i dont think.u read my post correctly because thats not what it said but have a good night.
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.
u claim that u read every post?
I've been here awhile, there are lots of very knowledgeable people here and some that don't know what they are talking about. So yea, the knowledgeable here would never say go drink beers all day then hit the gym.
i m sorry but i dont think.u read my post correctly because thats not what it said but have a good night.
You need to write clearer then.16 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
I don't think you understand what a calorie is. And I suspect that anyone who suggested it would be a good idea to drink beer all day and lift would be laughed out of the forums.
why is everbody reading this wrong. NOBODY suggested to drink beer all day long n go lift. it is my SARCASTIC suggestion/remark to people who preach "food is food"
Nobody preaches food is food. People say to not label foods good or bad, with the added disclaimer I mentioned earlier. Completely different.
i guess u read EVERY posting in every thread from day one.
Nope, but I don't think I've ever read a thread where the importance of nutrient density in a diet wasn't mentioned by those highlighting that calories was the main factor in weight loss12 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
No one is saying this! No one.
u claim that u read every post?
I've been here awhile, there are lots of very knowledgeable people here and some that don't know what they are talking about. So yea, the knowledgeable here would never say go drink beers all day then hit the gym.
i m sorry but i dont think.u read my post correctly because thats not what it said but have a good night.
Good night.3 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
How many times is that said with extra disclaimers about eating nutrient dense foods most of the time though? (pretty sure it's most of the time)
And I've never seen ANYBODY preach that one should just drink beers all day long and then go lift with progressive overload in the gym. Not once. Ever. Talk about a ridiculous strawman argument.
i said the people who preach food is food should do that
Here's the thing, and the link will no doubt be posted soon... It's possible to fuel effective progressive overload with "junk food"... someone on MFP with an open diary did it... for 90+ days with photos and detailed logs.
SO it's pretty well settled... FOOD is food.. calories are calories.7 -
stanmann571 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »i hear this being preach to newbies so often,
"food is food, theres no junk food"
"calorie is calorie, it makes no difference to the body"
I want to see these people who preach that just drink beers all day long n then go lift with progressive overload in the gym
How many times is that said with extra disclaimers about eating nutrient dense foods most of the time though? (pretty sure it's most of the time)
And I've never seen ANYBODY preach that one should just drink beers all day long and then go lift with progressive overload in the gym. Not once. Ever. Talk about a ridiculous strawman argument.
i said the people who preach food is food should do that
Here's the thing, and the link will no doubt be posted soon... It's possible to fuel effective progressive overload with "junk food"... someone on MFP with an open diary did it... for 90+ days with photos and detailed logs.
SO it's pretty well settled... FOOD is food.. calories are calories.
Check what NFL, NBA, Olympic athletes use to fuel their training. Sure there is some junk food, but most of it is nutrient dense.3 -
There is scientific basis though. It's NOT disputed that person carry more weight than they need to, INCREASES risk for health issues not to mention the wear and tear on joints and cartilage. As one ages, this risk increases if the weight stays the same. Whitney Thore of "My Big Fat Fabulous Life" has always claimed to that although she's obese, she's "healthy". Well, she got hospitalized after trying to hold a dancethon and now still thinks it was just a bad episode day for her.waybetter2 wrote: »"To be fair, going into a debate thread that specifically states itself to be about unpopular opinions is not the best way to gauge a community as a whole..."
Fair enough. Like I started out saying, I think I jumped into the wrong conversation. Somehow I thought it would be a discussion about unpopular opinions about health and fitness like which diets are most effective and how to get the most out of your exercise plan and not necessarily slide into the judgment and intolerance of those who aren't healthy or fit. And, seriously, there are still people who think it's impossible to be overweight and healthy. That's not an unpopular opinion, that's a judgment with no scientific basis. That's the kind of thing I'm bothered by. It's OK though. I'm a big girl and if I didn't know how to let this stuff roll, I'd have a whole different life.
I've dealt with a lot of people in denial, so it's not a "judgement" for me. I base it on experience in the field and Journals of Medicine and Science.
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