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MikePfirrman wrote: »I'm in AZ and just saw a projection yesterday (I think mainly because we're on a rapid upward trajectory and have so many older people) that we will have an increase in deaths of 5000%. I think we're at 500 deaths now and they are predicting well over 5000 more.
Yet masks aren't required and restaurants opened over the weekend. People were standing in line at haircutting places, nail salons and spas. Most all didn't have masks.
I'm at the point now where if people want to die, you can't help them. I feel sorry that they have minimized the risk, ignored the science and now can't wait to "be free". I just don't think what will happen to them is as fun as they anticipate.
We will continue to shelter in place for the most part, eat at home (and I'm fortunate enough to have a career where I don't step out of the house).
The only ones I feel sorry for is the first responders and family members of those that continue to put everyone at risk for their "civil liberties".
Thank you for your words. My oldest son is a paramedic/firefighter. I also worry for him.10 -
So much for going anyplace requiring a freeway around here
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-traffic-citations-speeding-100-mph-up-87-percent-stay-at-home-order/2 -
Our state Supreme Court just struck down the governor's stay at home order. This means any business or restaurant can open up immediately.
Not a surprise, but I am so disappointed. Madison was already ramped up this week; who knows what it will become like now?
I'm social distancing, wearing a mask inside stores (only the grocery store, about once every 10 days; one outing to a pet store every month). I work from home and take daily walks at the dog parks, where it's easy to be at least 6 feet from others. I tried my local trail (out my door, basically) yesterday but it was too busy. Most people walking with another person (or more than 1 other) do not walk single file, although I noticed some moms with kids on bikes who did that. If everyone walked single file on their side of the trail, it would basically be 6 feet or more for the entire 3.5 mile loop. But apparently that's too much to consider. I get pretty irritated b/c it is such a simple thing to do. I passed anywhere from 75 to 100 people--outrageously above the usual, non-Covid traffic. I don't begrudge anyone the need to get outside, especially now that our weather is finally decent. But c'mon, folks; move over and walk single file when passing others. It's not rocket science.
I'm mostly concerned about a few people in my life and all the folks who will be put at risk b/c they *must* go back to work or have no income whatsoever. The truth is that reopening greatly increases the risk for those most AT risk, and these are the same folks who will not be able to claim unemployment if they don't go back to work. What a clusterf*ck. These folks do not have a real choice and that is so, so wrong.
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paperpudding wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »Just curious. Why were barber shops among the first to open here, among the last in other states? Did our governor need a haircut and your governor has a private barber?
Just curious. Why do people need barbershops? I cut my own hair for 5 years, and my wife continued for the next 32 years after that. She never stopped during the lockdown.
Perhaps because they don't have and don't want to develop that skill set or just don't want to do it? I mean do you change the oil in you vehicles, do your own taxes, lawn care, home repairs, etc.? I'm pretty sure there is some service you are paying for that others not specifically trained to perform that function are doing just like you are cutting your own hair.
I think the point of this post was more to address the 'But who needs barbers, I can do it myself' of the post it responded to.
and saying Yes you can do it yourself - other people can do other things themselves but dont go round saying why do you need accountants, lawn mower services etc, you could just do it yourself.
It wasnt a comment on the safety or neccesity or social distancing possibilities of each service - just a response to the 'I can do it myself, why doesnt everyone else' tone of the responded to post.
That's how it came across to me anyway.
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We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?5 -
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PA has required masks for a few weeks. I have read a few objections on FB, but everyone I've seen in the stores has been wearing one.
Grocery stores are still limited, which is frustrating. No rice, no pasta, limited cheese, and no TP, though paper towels are easily available.1 -
So much for going anyplace requiring a freeway around here
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-traffic-citations-speeding-100-mph-up-87-percent-stay-at-home-order/
I've heard people are acting crazy when driving around here (traffic is way down compared to normal). I haven't driven since Easter (and haven't gone all that far when I did drive), but today I needed to go downtown so took Lake Shore Drive (was going to say LSD but that could be misconstrued) ;-) and did, and people definitely were acting like idiots and driving faster and less safely than normal all over the city. I saw 2 people run stop signs. Sigh.6 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?
That's what the other side of the tree is for:)
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DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?
It is strange, I agree. Really I wonder if it's more that in order for people to return to work, kids need to go back to school. Or is that just me being cynical??
My kids'schools have various changes in place - no assemblies, assigned seating, extra spacing of desks etc. But still, there will be 25+ kids in a classroom together all day. And lots of them playing together at break times.
And I am waiting to see how the high school is handling moving classrooms for each subject. Do they clean in between etc? I know they have installed hand sanitizer dispensers to be used going in and out. And any kids with a sign of being unwell will be sent straight home.
Our city council has advised that public toilets are also open - cleaning twice a day. I would aim to avoid them anyway, but good to know they are there.1 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?
I suppose the theory is you are not suppossed to be in a park long enough to need the toilet.
Parks were open here too but playgrounds within them were taped off. So it was ok to go for a walk or jog through the park or to sit by yourself /members of your household on a bench - but not for children ( or adults - the adults fitness equipment was taped off too) to gather on equipment or have lots of bodies touching equipment.
Same logic as gyms, I suppose.
Outdoor playgrounds/ fitness equipment are un taped and ok to use here now in stage 1 of road to recovery.
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paperpudding wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?
I suppose the theory is you are not suppossed to be in a park long enough to need the toilet.
Parks were open here too but playgrounds within them were taped off. So it was ok to go for a walk or jog through the park or to sit by yourself /members of your household on a bench - but not for children ( or adults - the adults fitness equipment was taped off too) to gather on equipment or have lots of bodies touching equipment.
Same logic as gyms, I suppose.
Outdoor playgrounds/ fitness equipment are un taped and ok to use here now in stage 1 of road to recovery.
Weirdly enough, they did the same thing here - left parks open but closed facilities at them - and then apparently the city noticed that people still needed to go, so rather than arrest everybody for indecent exposure, they added portapotties and posted the location of the new portapotties on the covid site! So, let me get this straight, using a fully functional restroom is unsafe, but sharing a four by four foot fully enclosed space with no way to wash your hands afterwards is somehow safe. Got it.
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rheddmobile wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?
I suppose the theory is you are not suppossed to be in a park long enough to need the toilet.
Parks were open here too but playgrounds within them were taped off. So it was ok to go for a walk or jog through the park or to sit by yourself /members of your household on a bench - but not for children ( or adults - the adults fitness equipment was taped off too) to gather on equipment or have lots of bodies touching equipment.
Same logic as gyms, I suppose.
Outdoor playgrounds/ fitness equipment are un taped and ok to use here now in stage 1 of road to recovery.
Weirdly enough, they did the same thing here - left parks open but closed facilities at them - and then apparently the city noticed that people still needed to go, so rather than arrest everybody for indecent exposure, they added portapotties and posted the location of the new portapotties on the covid site! So, let me get this straight, using a fully functional restroom is unsafe, but sharing a four by four foot fully enclosed space with no way to wash your hands afterwards is somehow safe. Got it.
Portapotties are cleaned and supplied by the rental company. Fully functional bathrooms need to be cleaned and supplied by the city or county and they probably don't have enough personnel to do that. That is my opinion, but I also agree with your reasoning.
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Usually they have hand sanitizer with portapotties too, although I also think that seems weird.
We also have (most) parks open but playground sections closed off. Facilities are closed, but it seems not that hard just to plan so no bathroom is needed. There are tons of local parks here, so people likely aren't too far from their homes anyway.1 -
Our state Supreme Court just struck down the governor's stay at home order. This means any business or restaurant can open up immediately.
Not a surprise, but I am so disappointed. Madison was already ramped up this week; who knows what it will become like now?
I'm social distancing, wearing a mask inside stores (only the grocery store, about once every 10 days; one outing to a pet store every month). I work from home and take daily walks at the dog parks, where it's easy to be at least 6 feet from others. I tried my local trail (out my door, basically) yesterday but it was too busy. Most people walking with another person (or more than 1 other) do not walk single file, although I noticed some moms with kids on bikes who did that. If everyone walked single file on their side of the trail, it would basically be 6 feet or more for the entire 3.5 mile loop. But apparently that's too much to consider. I get pretty irritated b/c it is such a simple thing to do. I passed anywhere from 75 to 100 people--outrageously above the usual, non-Covid traffic. I don't begrudge anyone the need to get outside, especially now that our weather is finally decent. But c'mon, folks; move over and walk single file when passing others. It's not rocket science.
I'm mostly concerned about a few people in my life and all the folks who will be put at risk b/c they *must* go back to work or have no income whatsoever. The truth is that reopening greatly increases the risk for those most AT risk, and these are the same folks who will not be able to claim unemployment if they don't go back to work. What a clusterf*ck. These folks do not have a real choice and that is so, so wrong.
I imagine my nearby state park is quite busy as well, but due to the dog poop on the main trails >.< I started using a back entrance a few years back and hardly ever see people in that section.
I've been too busy gardening lately to go there, but maybe I'll go today as it is super nice out.0 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?Theoldguy1 wrote: »That's what the other side of the tree is for:)
My only regret about being female is due to males' ability to pee discretely in the woods7 -
Just announced yesterday that NM is going into phase I open as of May 16. All retailers will be allowed to open at 25% of fire marshal capacity which is the same as grocery stores and other places that were deemed essential have been at.
Not surprisingly, all of the people who were complaining that the big box stores were allowed to be open at limited capacity and why can't everyone else do the same with the same restrictions are now complaining that "non essential" retailers are now open with the same restrictions. Also, masks are now mandated when going into a public place of business and people are complaining about that and a bunch of yahoos saying "over my dead body" which seems absurd and juvenile that you would really be willing to die rather than wear a mask for 20 minutes in a grocery store.
Restaurants and other close contact things like gyms, barbers, salons, etc are still closed. Phase I should theoretically be a couple of weeks namely to see how things go...but these idiots are likely to ruin that because they just want to be defiant of something as simple as wearing a mask and maintaining social distancing and not congregating in more than groups of 10.
IMO, or governor has done a pretty good job. It hasn't been perfect and there have been certain aspects of this that I disagree with, but there is no one perfect solution and she has erred on the side of being cautious. For some reason, I think there were a lot of people that just thought we'd go from stay at home and everything being closed to just opening everything up overnight...which is baffling since she has been talking about phased re-opening, increased testing and contact tracing for over a month.11 -
kshama2001 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We've woken up this morning to a new level of freedom (I'm in New Zealand) - at midnight we went to "alert level 2"
Level 4 was full lockdown - supermarkets, pharmacies and medical centres open with restrictions, and a few other essential services were running. People had to stay home, no travel, only contact with those in your home (or your "bubble")
Level 3 was a slight easing - cafes and restaurants opened for takeaway only. Stores opening for click and collect or delivery services. Travelling within your region was okay.
Level 2 we now have restaurants open for table service again - groups of 10 or less. Shops can open, social distancing and hygiene measures in place. School will reopen on Monday. We can now travel again - looking forward to visiting my mum who is in another region and has been alone for 7 weeks! I have been talking to her lots, and ordering her groceries for delivery as she's in an at-risk group and taking all precautions.
There are still restrictions on gatherings, so the kids' extra-curricular activities won't be starting face-to-face just yet. That will be reviewed in two weeks as we see how the case numbers progress.
(Those descriptions of levels are not complete lists, just a few things relevant to me)
Funny how today, for me, is actually just the same. I guess it will help when the kids head back to school next week, but I will continue to work from home. I am looking forward to taking the dog for a walk as we'd been requested to keep dogs on leash for all walks for level 3&4, so it'll be great to let her off at the beach or river for a run - except I think everyone else in town will probably have the same idea, and my dog hates crowds.
My daughter is super excited to see her best friend today.
Fingers crossed (and hands washed) that our numbers stay low going forward.
What I don't understand is, if social distancing and hygiene measures are in place and groups are limited to 10, how do schools open? This is why we don't know when schools will reopen here. We have to follow the social distance guidelines, which is 10 or less. That is not a full school bus or classroom. They are even limiting staff to 10 at a time. Parks are open, but not playgrounds(in some cities). My city opened parks and playgrounds, but not restrooms. I don't understand...are we supposed to pee ourselves?Theoldguy1 wrote: »That's what the other side of the tree is for:)
My only regret about being female is due to males' ability to pee discretely in the woods
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Also, masks are now mandated when going into a public place of business and people are complaining about that and a bunch of yahoos saying "over my dead body" which seems absurd and juvenile that you would really be willing to die rather than wear a mask for 20 minutes in a grocery store.
Yeah, I really don't get this, or how we managed to make wearing a mask a partisan issue in this country. So ridiculous. Wearing a mask is no big deal for most people.8
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